RE-UPLOAD Ok so…. I was trying to remove a small clip from this video using RUclips editor and somehow deleted the entire first half. Yaaaay. So, rising like a phoenix from the ashes is the almost identical mark 2 version.
One part of The Martian that I really enjoy is that it also demonstrates the importance of staying emotionally/mentally healthy, in addition to being physically healthy, when you're marooned like Mark Watney was. Doing things to keep your spirits up and stay optimistic is essential to being able to survive in that kind of situation.
It's a great segment where they're talking to the mission psyche and they say Watney is a guy who keeps people together and keeps morale up. On a technical level he survives because he knows how to supply himself food and has enough engineering to duct-tape his way through problems. But the reason he *survives* because he keeps himself grinning through it, just about. And I like that the book makes clear that he still suffers long term as a result.
This movie actually means a lot to me. I had to take a science course for my degree, and I finally settled on astronomy because I'm really bad at pretty much every other science. The professor was a really kind soul, incredibly passionate about his field of study, who was also a massive geek, and since I was always at class early (for unrelated reasons), we ended up managing to beat Kirby's Dream Land 3 by playing it every day before class, by the skin of our teeth. On the last day of class, as a destressor after the final, we watched the martian and had a little extra credit assignment attached to it. As soon as we were done, the professor said, we could go home, but I ended up staying to watch the whole thing anyway. I handed in the assignment, thanked the professor for a really fun and informative class, and went home for the winter break. Before the beginning of the next spring semester, my brother was talking about trying to figure out his class schedule, and I suggested he take astronomy with the same professor. He informed me that, unfortunately, the professor had passed away sometime between christmas and new years. This, obviously, came as a giant shock to me. I realized that, because I stayed late to watch the whole movie, I was likely one of his last students to see him. So, thanks, The Martian, for being a good movie.
That's a very special relationship to have had. Most of my best school memories were meaningful moments with teachers, so I can relate in a sense. Thanks for sharing!
This is why I like trawling the comments on videos like this. Eventually someone's going to have a really heartwarming story about a teacher that made a lasting impression on them.
Hearing that a favorite teacher had passed away unexpectedly is always a shock. I experienced that with one of my most influential professors, though I didn't have a close personal relationship like you had. You have my sympathies.
While I love both book and movie, the one thing that I was truly missing is "How does Watney know how to do all the things?" The movie never mentions he was the mechanical Engineer for the mission. So people are left thinking that this gardener is somehow magically getting everything to work. In reality that is his primary role. Botany was only his minor in college.
I always assumed that knowing how to operate and repair all the tools that will be instrumental for your survival in the radioactive red desert that is mars was a given for every member of a mission regardless of their specialization
I just assumed that all astronauts know how to do at least a bit of everything, especially for a Mars mission. If a crew member has a million-to-one accident when replacements are literally years away, you need redundancy for every vital task.
Most NASA astronauts are pretty versatile and well-trained in multiple disciplines of studies. Engineering and servicing essential life equipment is required for all ISS astronauts today, so it makes sense that Mars astronauts would be trained in a similar way too.
For those who were curious and confused, as I was, about Dom’s description of the book ending, I did some research and think I figured it out. There are two “official” endings to the Martian book: the park bench scene where Watney is approached by a mother and son, which was the original ending from the website/self-published run, and the one that ends with Mark having just been rescued and contemplating the nature of humanity, which was edited into the 2014 re-publishing and the original audiobook, presumably because Weir felt it made a stronger ending. Now, from what I can gather, there are no print versions that include the space hotel bit that Dom discussed. However, the 2020 Wil Wheaton audiobook version is billed as including additional and exclusive short stories about Mark Watney. I imagine these includes the stories of the whole crew getting fired, Watney becoming a recluse, and getting the job offer for a hotel, which makes it less of an ending to the book and more sequel/bonus content, though it’s easy to see how this could be construed as an epilogue. Though of course, the movie would have had no way of incorporating this information since it had not yet been published. I think it just goes to show how versatile a story can be and how important the way people consume it is! For The Martian, there are at least four different versions of events depending on the media that it’s being told in, each with their own meaning and themes. How crazy is that?
Thanks for that. I was genuinely confused the first time I watched this video because, the copy of the book I have ended with Watney getting rescued & giving Mars the middle finger. I had no idea there was more than one ending. XD
Thanks for the research.... As to how crazy is that? Have you ever looked into any Douglas Adams? He apparently got bored, reworking so would rewrite, including in his own "reading" for the audio books :-)
Andy Weir is a good example how to make science interesting & engaging for people like me who doesn't get science, but still be accurate to not annoy the professionals
The 'dibs on Glorfindel as a code name' joke was so good. I still hold it in my heart as an example of a great geeky joke made even better by making it even geekier
@@donsample1002 The 21st century equivalent of "What was the first movie in which Boba Fett was mentioned by name?": "What was the first movie in which Glorfindel was mentioned by name?"
A detail I really liked in the book was Watney always quipping and joking, making it fun to read his diary, only to then have a psychologist reveal that he uses humour to cope with stress a few chapters in. Made me feel a little bad.
"how the world will band together to save an attractive white man." I did NOT expect that to be the conclusion of that sentence, you caught me off guard and I laughed out loud.
I sincerely hope that someone will someday do The Martian as a "Chernobyl"-style miniseries. The book is written with that kind of pacing in mind, and I think the humor and tragedy would flow much better if you know the whole thing won't be over in an hour. Also the word "fuck" is a main character in the book. You can't just cut it mostly out and get the same tone. Mark, some answers to your previous questions: 1. No, we will not tell our botany team to "Go fuck themselves"
No mention of the Disco music? Sad. I saw a funny diagram about how expensive each Matt Damon rescue was. Least expensive was Saving Private Ryan (they didn’t adjust for inflation lol), Martian was number 2, and by a lot Interseller was the most expensive haha.
The science behind the botany , helped me with my lawn. I live in the desert and figured if I used a bag of manure and mixed it with the dirt then just flooded it for a week before seeding it. The grass grew quickly and covered my back yard for an entire spring and summer.
Another great bit of detail is the music. The film does have an original score, but all the licensed songs like David Bowie’s Star Man and ABBA’s Waterloo are a reference to the book. Watney goes through his crew mates’ stuff to see what kind of entertainment he’s got, and the only music he can find is Commander Lewis’ disco collection. Working it into the film the way that they did was brilliant.
i agree, this movie impressed me with how good an adaptation it is! The only part that annoyed me was the "fly around like Iron Man" part, specifically because the book dismissed it as being a horrible idea. But as a whole that is a minor annoyance that didn't change that I really liked the movie.
As an engineer myself that feels wholeheartedly underrepresented in the culture (thousands of police procedure, law firms and doctor shows/films, but zero engineers...) this book and movie were such a joy to read. A survival tale where being an attorney or an activist would mean certain death.
I am very aware that this video is over a year old,, however as a gen-z medical nerd with vampid ADHD and an enthusiasm for puzzles, I fucking love house and that reference made me very happy.
I appreciate that you went to the trouble of doing this. You lose all the watch time and interaction all for a small accident. You really live up to your name, you Noble man you!
love sean beans reaction, its like he thinking "wait... what? the fuck? we still referencing the lord of the rings? wait.. am I dying in this movie and wasn't told?"
@@getdatpeppah6083 I meant I remember that bit from the first release of the video, I was only rewatching to give Dom the views so wasn't paying full attention this time round.
Great video! I was always a little sad that the movie did away with a lot of the "NASA-speak" that I thought really made the book shine. My personal favourite example is upon pulling in Mark at the very end of the movie; Commander Lewis says "Houston, _Hermes_ : We got him!". A fine exclamation, but in the book, Lewis _finally_ radios in after Beck goes through _all_ the procedure and finally pulls Mark into the airlock: "Houston, this is _Heremes_ Actual. Six crew safely aboard." Sticking to the script, rigidly, even in such an emotional moment made such an impact for me. I know it was canned because ✨movie magic✨ (much like the addition of actually _using_ the much-ridiculed Iron Man maneuverer), but I still mourn the loss of the "always to procedure, even in the most stressful and wild of circumstances" way the crew are portrayed in the book. It's what sold me so much on Andy's writing. That, and Venkat became "Vincent" in the movie. I don't even have an explanation for that one, they even kept in that he's Hindu - and added that he's _also_ Baptist. That was just weird to me. Oh well. *Original comment* Imma have to re-find my mammoth comment about being annoyed at how they didn't stick to procedure at the very end - y'know, for posterity and whatnot. So, watch this space for when I find that 🙃 (And metrics. Good metrics.)
If you love the NASA-speak and always-to-procedure aspects, I heartily recommend Mary Robinette Kowal's Lady Astronaut series! Think The Martian meets Hidden Figures: an asteroid hits the eastern seaboard of the US in the mid 50s, scientists figure out that the resulting climate change will eventually render the planet uninhabitable, jump-starting the space program in an attempt to colonize the Moon and Mars. Lots of chewy examination of gender & racial dynamics accurate to the period and still relevant today!
Happy you reuploaded a video over a small thing you weren't happy with. I've seen people make excuses and say they won't do it because it's too much effort, so good work on sticking to what you feel comfortable with.
This is genuinely one of my favorite books ever, and, even though it doesn't get as well translated, because the whole concept can be a bit introspective, what I love about the adaptation the most is the honest hope and "keep moving forward, one step at a time" sort of sentiment to it. There are very few characters that could be thought of as cynics, and even those have genuine moments of unironic, unadulterated feelings of hope or feel honestly terrible when things go wrong. I dunno, it just warms my heart and it feels kind of refreshing to read a story like that, and I think that, for as limited as a film that doesn't include the characters' inner monologues beyond Mark's occasional sidenote, this adaptation did well with the idea, even if it does feel like it played more into a sense of wonder towards something that everyone knows is as dangerous as it is marvelous.
I agree! It's also one of my favorites, not just for the reasons Dom listed, but because I watched it in January of 2017, when I really needed that shot of "humanity can be good sometimes" optimism.
Late to the game, but not only have I read the book and seen the movie, I can confirm that Andy Weir is indeed a cool bloke/genuinely happy, chill, enthusiastic nerd.
as the result of a recent accident I am still on strong medication and this messed with my head when I saw it as I was thinking 'I already saw Dom do this, I know I did. Maybe I didn't maybe I just had a strange hallucination that was oddly future seeing'. I even remember remarking on how it was nice to see they only molded the content when a visual medium worked better with something, not because they just wanted to do a different story. when you respect the story and the characters you can be loyal without having to recreate every page. It would have been nice to see a bit more of the struggle, but it was still great. Glad to see it was a re-upload and that I haven't developed some strange fortune telling power that seems to only apply to RUclips videos.
I loved the book, loved the R.C. Bray audiobook, loved the Wil Wheaton edition and is my go-to movie whenever I feel down or bored. It's such a good story of human ingenuity and cooperation. Where there's not really a single bad guy, just a bunch of people trying to help and sometime disagreeing on how to do that.
The funny thing about House is that there were so many easter egg jokes that only people with medical experience would get. It isn't just that they are throwing in enough jargon to make it realistic, they are throwing shade at doctors too.
The Martian movie came out at a pivotal time for me, so the movie.and book.are really important to me. It's so nice to reflect on the growth that this was part of the inciting event. Thanks for your great work, Dom! ❤💖
One thing is the Space pirate logic doesn't make sense in the movie since he doesn't lose contact again, in the book he's a pirate because he can't ask permission, but in the movie he can cause he didn't lose contact again after setting out.
Ever since I first found your channel, I've been hoping you would review "The Martian". It's my favorite book to film adaptation and I was wondering what your thoughts would be on it. So glad you've finally put this together!
I'll say that my only two real issues I had with the movie are the Ironman bit at the end and the floating debris while the capsule Watney is in is still under acceleration.
This book is so important to me. I read it way back in late 2014, and 11 year old me absolutely loved the space and science. I still credit it with sending me down the STEM path. Also the joy when I re read it at 17 and understood the science jargon!
I wasn't expecting to get so drawn into this film, and I was on the edge of my seat during the climax. You really feel the lonliness and isolations, and the desperation of the crew. I even welled up a bit during this video when you showed the moment they grabbed Watney. Just imagining feeling that first human contact after all that time alone.
The Martian is just about one of the only sci-fi books I've been able to read without feeling utterly lost, and also, I just realized that the guy reading out censored curse words is Nick Mohammed, who plays Nate on 'Ted Lasso'. Thanks for covering it.
I am completely happy to watch this again, and will again say this is perhaps one of the single most faithful and well-done adaptations ever done. It's a top-tier adaptation in the company of The Princess Bride.
Watched this when it was posted the first time, and was inspired to reread the book. Just finished that half an hour ago. Picked up my phone and here's this again, and I can only assume it will make me read the book _again..._ Dom, you may have kicked off an endless cycle.😁
I mean, if you're going to *insist* on living up to your surname for the sake of good taste and viewer comfort.... well, we'll just have to let you and happily lap up another serving of Dom review. 😋
This is one of my favorite hard sci-fi movies, and my favorite "mission to Mars" movies by a significant margin (a surprisingly large genre.) I only had one issue with it as a guy who knows planetary science, and that was the Martian winds. The atmosphere on Mars is less than 1% as dense as Earth's, so even though the winds can blow at more than 100 mph they carry almost no real force. The wind isn't even strong enough to throw up pebbles, let alone dislodge a satellite dish and fling it at lethal velocity at someone's face. There IS a way the dust storm would have worked that DOES fit the science better, and that is the fact that it would basically blind the astronauts and disrupt their radios with all the massive amounts of static that much flying dust would generate. All you had to do was get him separated and fall into a hole or something to crack his helmet and there you go.
@@EmonEconomist there's the one that's actually called "Mission to Mars: M2M" the hilarious comedy Rocketman wherein the first words spoken on Mars are "it wasn't me!" Red Planet, John Carter (which I think is underrated) and of course, Total Recall (this is just a list, not a ranking) There are a few more Mars movies I'm aware of but I don't think they're very good
Can I express my love for this book enough? No. Instead, I’ll tell y’all that I read the book 3 times and have now listened to the audio book 8 times. Wil Wheaten was so amazing that when I started listening to The Kaiju Preservation Society and immediately recognized his voice, I knew what kind of book I was getting myself into and geeked out. My father was reluctant to listen to The Martian audiobook with me as “We’ve seen the movie; why do I need to listen to the book?” yet he’s enjoyed every moment of experiencing it with me. This is my most re-listened to audiobook. I’ve only had Audible since, like, July.
When a coworker loaned me the book, I read it in two days because I couldn’t put it down. So despite it being far closer in adaptation than most book to movies, there is that tone difference that has me much prefer the book. The first line of your book being “I’m pretty much fucked. That’s my considered opinion. Fucked.” It sets a big tone. I know Andy Weir wanted to have an edited version appropriate for schools (is that version out now? I have not kept up), but for me, the crass language is part of the story. It helps bond me to Mark Watney who speaks his mind unfiltered. Plus I love the joke that NASA’s PR director is the most foul mouthed person of the whole organization. AND THEY CAST KRISTIN WIIG! Kristin Wiig is perfect for the R rated Annie from the book, and they toned her down considerably. Along with Sean Bean as Mitch, it was a disservice to both actor and character. One change that Mr. Noble glossed over is the movie made the Space Pirate joke out of context. As discussed in many other places, Mark is a Space Pirate in the book because he has lost contact with NASA, so they cannot give him formal permission to take control of the Aries IV craft. However in the movie he is in contact the whole time, so NASA can grant permission, thus removing his crime of piracy. They loved the joke so much they threw it in anyways. Movie isn’t bad by any means, and I get them wanting that PG-13 since the only thing is the language. Just my two cents and how I just adore this book. I aspire to become, Botanist Cool.
10:09 Technically it's barratry, not mutiny. But Weir didn't know that at the time and the wrong crime is consistently used throughout both book and film.
I think this was the first time ever that I *didn't* want to keep on reading a book because I didn't want it to end. I wanted it to keep going on forever. Also, I remember how stressed I got when the third person narration began describing the slope in the crater that ended up turning over his vehicle. The anxiety was *real*, because I knew what that meant. I got a teensy bit disappointed by the movie, but only because they left both of the road trip biggest obstacles out. Everything else was so good. Matt Damon is an excellent Watney.
As a lover of hard sci-fi, I adore this movie, & the book’s just moved up on my to-read list. Also, Gen Z here- to answer your question: yes, House is one of many shows I watched with my parents as a kid, so I remember it fondly & I’d say it still has some relevance. Awesome work as always!
A good companion piece to these is the novel The Martian Race by Gregory Benford - it's essentially about how corporations and sponsors take over from NASA and compete against each other to make landfall and be the first back from Mars in 2015. There's a lot of scathing commentary in it, one good example is how the team we follow is literally sponsored by Mars Bars and even though all the crew members hate them it's the most compact form of edible calories they have so they're kind of forced to snack on them, especially since the equipment was all made for cheap and needs constant repairs.
"I'm going to have to science the shit out of this" was the part of the trailer (which was my first introduction to the movie and book) where I just immediately went full simp for this. I bought the book at the first possible opportunity and devoured it, then went to see this in theaters.
This is literally my single favorite book of all time. I'm not kidding, I've listened to the Audible audio book at least 27 times now, and I just love everything about it. I just recently got his newest book, Project Hail Mary, and so far I love it almost as much.
I loved the Martian. It was a great book and a wonderful adaptation as well. Also, can you please please do one on Bridge to Terebithia? It is a movie that holds a very special place in my heart and I would love to hear your opinion on it. I've heard quite a few people say that it's one of those movies that's better than the books.
I very much love this book and movie. Though you forgot to mention that in the movie, Watney would not be a space pirate as NASA would give him permission to board the MAV
Glad about the reupload. Had only gotten the chance to watch the original after the edit and saw it was front was cut off, commenting as such before. Always enjoy seeing your videos.
They blow the hole in the front of the Hermes, that's the point - blowing it in the side wouldn't have slowed them down but would have thrown them off-course.
I regularly go back to this audiobook, not narrated by Wil, every six months or so. It is so heckin good. And I have the movie too. A personal favorite.
I got fainted on seeing this movie in the theater, lol. The guy behind me lost consciousness during the opening scene with all the blood and fell directly on top of me. I thought he was dead for sure--but then he popped right back up a minute later. They had to stop the movie and call the paramedics and everything. Memorable, to be sure.
One story I remember about the Martian for those curious was that one of the accolades the movie one was the Golden Globe for the Best Picture, but strangely it was for the Comedy category instead of the drama. From what I gathered the reasoning behind this ruling was because the for-your-consideration-campaign tried to passed the movie more off as a comedy by containing a cast of actors mostly known for comedic roles as well as the various jokes sprinkled throughout the movie. This gained quite a bit of controversy from known comedy directors like Judd Apatow so the rules were changed for later Golden Globes in which movies that are distinctly dramas will always only be considered for the drama category, even if there are some comedic undertones.
A video on 2001 would be especially interesting to see given how it wasn't the typical book to film adaptation. It went from short story to film then to novel.
Amazing! I actually went through the book years ago before I had decided to watch the movie so this amounts to one of my few personal 'Lost in Adaption' moments. As such, I was thrilled when I saw the title for Dom's latest video. Really enjoyed it!
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Ok so…. I was trying to remove a small clip from this video using RUclips editor and somehow deleted the entire first half. Yaaaay. So, rising like a phoenix from the ashes is the almost identical mark 2 version.
A video so good you uploaded it twice
Lol, good to know. I'll have to remember to be careful (or preferably not use that feature) on my other account.
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I'll just go ahead and watch it again then. Was doing the dishes last time anyway.
Haha offended white people
They didn’t make the council of Elrond joke because they got Sean Bean, they got Sean Bean because they already had the joke 😂
It is a gift
that was my first thought too haha
In Russia Joke gets You. And Sean Bean. ;)
Why not get Hugo Weaving insted then?
One does not simply ask Sean Bean for a LotR reference.
One part of The Martian that I really enjoy is that it also demonstrates the importance of staying emotionally/mentally healthy, in addition to being physically healthy, when you're marooned like Mark Watney was. Doing things to keep your spirits up and stay optimistic is essential to being able to survive in that kind of situation.
I certainly drew inspiration from Watney during the pandemic.
It's a great segment where they're talking to the mission psyche and they say Watney is a guy who keeps people together and keeps morale up. On a technical level he survives because he knows how to supply himself food and has enough engineering to duct-tape his way through problems. But the reason he *survives* because he keeps himself grinning through it, just about. And I like that the book makes clear that he still suffers long term as a result.
On the note of the ending, I like the different endings the book and the movie have. They're both equally good in different ways, imo.
@@gabrielpelletier6202 I do like them both for different reasons. But the book is more realistic but the movie is more hopeful
@@TheLastSane1 Agreed.
This movie actually means a lot to me. I had to take a science course for my degree, and I finally settled on astronomy because I'm really bad at pretty much every other science. The professor was a really kind soul, incredibly passionate about his field of study, who was also a massive geek, and since I was always at class early (for unrelated reasons), we ended up managing to beat Kirby's Dream Land 3 by playing it every day before class, by the skin of our teeth.
On the last day of class, as a destressor after the final, we watched the martian and had a little extra credit assignment attached to it. As soon as we were done, the professor said, we could go home, but I ended up staying to watch the whole thing anyway. I handed in the assignment, thanked the professor for a really fun and informative class, and went home for the winter break.
Before the beginning of the next spring semester, my brother was talking about trying to figure out his class schedule, and I suggested he take astronomy with the same professor. He informed me that, unfortunately, the professor had passed away sometime between christmas and new years. This, obviously, came as a giant shock to me. I realized that, because I stayed late to watch the whole movie, I was likely one of his last students to see him.
So, thanks, The Martian, for being a good movie.
That's a very special relationship to have had. Most of my best school memories were meaningful moments with teachers, so I can relate in a sense. Thanks for sharing!
This is why I like trawling the comments on videos like this. Eventually someone's going to have a really heartwarming story about a teacher that made a lasting impression on them.
Hearing that a favorite teacher had passed away unexpectedly is always a shock. I experienced that with one of my most influential professors, though I didn't have a close personal relationship like you had. You have my sympathies.
That’s incredibly sweet. I’m glad you were there.
That’s quite a story.
While I love both book and movie, the one thing that I was truly missing is "How does Watney know how to do all the things?" The movie never mentions he was the mechanical Engineer for the mission. So people are left thinking that this gardener is somehow magically getting everything to work. In reality that is his primary role. Botany was only his minor in college.
Wow thanks for the reminder! I had completely forgotten about that in the many years since reading the book.
I always assumed that knowing how to operate and repair all the tools that will be instrumental for your survival in the radioactive red desert that is mars was a given for every member of a mission regardless of their specialization
I just assumed that all astronauts know how to do at least a bit of everything, especially for a Mars mission. If a crew member has a million-to-one accident when replacements are literally years away, you need redundancy for every vital task.
Good to know.
Most NASA astronauts are pretty versatile and well-trained in multiple disciplines of studies. Engineering and servicing essential life equipment is required for all ISS astronauts today, so it makes sense that Mars astronauts would be trained in a similar way too.
For those who were curious and confused, as I was, about Dom’s description of the book ending, I did some research and think I figured it out. There are two “official” endings to the Martian book: the park bench scene where Watney is approached by a mother and son, which was the original ending from the website/self-published run, and the one that ends with Mark having just been rescued and contemplating the nature of humanity, which was edited into the 2014 re-publishing and the original audiobook, presumably because Weir felt it made a stronger ending.
Now, from what I can gather, there are no print versions that include the space hotel bit that Dom discussed. However, the 2020 Wil Wheaton audiobook version is billed as including additional and exclusive short stories about Mark Watney. I imagine these includes the stories of the whole crew getting fired, Watney becoming a recluse, and getting the job offer for a hotel, which makes it less of an ending to the book and more sequel/bonus content, though it’s easy to see how this could be construed as an epilogue. Though of course, the movie would have had no way of incorporating this information since it had not yet been published.
I think it just goes to show how versatile a story can be and how important the way people consume it is! For The Martian, there are at least four different versions of events depending on the media that it’s being told in, each with their own meaning and themes. How crazy is that?
Thanks for the research and clarification!
Thanks for that. I was genuinely confused the first time I watched this video because, the copy of the book I have ended with Watney getting rescued & giving Mars the middle finger. I had no idea there was more than one ending. XD
Thanks for the research.... As to how crazy is that? Have you ever looked into any Douglas Adams? He apparently got bored, reworking so would rewrite, including in his own "reading" for the audio books :-)
Thank you! I thought I had forgotten a chapter or something.
Reminds me of how Douglas Adams told different versions of Hitchikers Guide for books vs. BBC teleplay vs. Major motion picture
I'll happily watch this 20 minutes of Dominic & Matt Damon for a second time.
Matt: [calls you a p*ssy for not buying NFTs]
A large chunk off the video is just wasted time, honesty. A solid seven minutes could have been trimmed at no cost to the useful information given.
Same same
@@Genethagenius You just posted cringe.
@@Genethagenius nobody cares and you're still watching
Andy Weir is a good example how to make science interesting & engaging for people like me who doesn't get science, but still be accurate to not annoy the professionals
I’m sure Neil Degrasse Tyson had a beef with something in it.
The 'dibs on Glorfindel as a code name' joke was so good. I still hold it in my heart as an example of a great geeky joke made even better by making it even geekier
Especially as it shows Teddy has read the book, not just watched the movies. PJ gave Glorfindal's part to Arwen.
@@donsample1002 The 21st century equivalent of "What was the first movie in which Boba Fett was mentioned by name?": "What was the first movie in which Glorfindel was mentioned by name?"
Lol. “I hate you all”. My favorite line.
A detail I really liked in the book was Watney always quipping and joking, making it fun to read his diary, only to then have a psychologist reveal that he uses humour to cope with stress a few chapters in. Made me feel a little bad.
"how the world will band together to save an attractive white man." I did NOT expect that to be the conclusion of that sentence, you caught me off guard and I laughed out loud.
PO-TA-TOES boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew
Save Matt Damon on a planet far away too.
I sincerely hope that someone will someday do The Martian as a "Chernobyl"-style miniseries. The book is written with that kind of pacing in mind, and I think the humor and tragedy would flow much better if you know the whole thing won't be over in an hour.
Also the word "fuck" is a main character in the book. You can't just cut it mostly out and get the same tone.
Mark, some answers to your previous questions:
1. No, we will not tell our botany team to "Go fuck themselves"
No mention of the Disco music? Sad.
I saw a funny diagram about how expensive each Matt Damon rescue was. Least expensive was Saving Private Ryan (they didn’t adjust for inflation lol), Martian was number 2, and by a lot Interseller was the most expensive haha.
There was a line in the book when mark was using solar panels to avoid a sandstorm that went "because pythagoras is a bitch".
I'm sad they skipped it.
They also flubbed the Aquaman joke. I was so looking forward to that in the movie, and was disappointed.
Well, it's a good thing I find Dom's voice absolutely delightful. I'll gladly watch this a second time.
The science behind the botany , helped me with my lawn. I live in the desert and figured if I used a bag of manure and mixed it with the dirt then just flooded it for a week before seeding it. The grass grew quickly and covered my back yard for an entire spring and summer.
Another great bit of detail is the music. The film does have an original score, but all the licensed songs like David Bowie’s Star Man and ABBA’s Waterloo are a reference to the book. Watney goes through his crew mates’ stuff to see what kind of entertainment he’s got, and the only music he can find is Commander Lewis’ disco collection. Working it into the film the way that they did was brilliant.
i agree, this movie impressed me with how good an adaptation it is! The only part that annoyed me was the "fly around like Iron Man" part, specifically because the book dismissed it as being a horrible idea. But as a whole that is a minor annoyance that didn't change that I really liked the movie.
Too bad this isn't a book about Time Travel or else we could joke about turning back time.
Well we could find a way.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter took the words right out of my mouth. 😂😂
That's a different movie where Matt Damon gets stuck in space.
As an engineer myself that feels wholeheartedly underrepresented in the culture (thousands of police procedure, law firms and doctor shows/films, but zero engineers...) this book and movie were such a joy to read. A survival tale where being an attorney or an activist would mean certain death.
I am very aware that this video is over a year old,, however as a gen-z medical nerd with vampid ADHD and an enthusiasm for puzzles, I fucking love house and that reference made me very happy.
I keep hoping to find an outtake of Sean Bean on the Project Elrond set saying "One doesn't simply walk into Schiaparelli Crater!"
19 year old here- house is my favorite show of all time. So yes, keep the references coming.
I appreciate that you went to the trouble of doing this. You lose all the watch time and interaction all for a small accident. You really live up to your name, you Noble man you!
love sean beans reaction, its like he thinking "wait... what? the fuck? we still referencing the lord of the rings? wait.. am I dying in this movie and wasn't told?"
"I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of Irishmen suddenly cried out in dismay and were suddenly silenced"
He cut out the joke but forgot the subtitles.
Is that what was cut out?
@@rhythmandblues_alibi it was in the subtitles
@@getdatpeppah6083 I meant I remember that bit from the first release of the video, I was only rewatching to give Dom the views so wasn't paying full attention this time round.
Great video! I was always a little sad that the movie did away with a lot of the "NASA-speak" that I thought really made the book shine. My personal favourite example is upon pulling in Mark at the very end of the movie; Commander Lewis says "Houston, _Hermes_ : We got him!". A fine exclamation, but in the book, Lewis _finally_ radios in after Beck goes through _all_ the procedure and finally pulls Mark into the airlock: "Houston, this is _Heremes_ Actual. Six crew safely aboard." Sticking to the script, rigidly, even in such an emotional moment made such an impact for me. I know it was canned because ✨movie magic✨ (much like the addition of actually _using_ the much-ridiculed Iron Man maneuverer), but I still mourn the loss of the "always to procedure, even in the most stressful and wild of circumstances" way the crew are portrayed in the book. It's what sold me so much on Andy's writing.
That, and Venkat became "Vincent" in the movie. I don't even have an explanation for that one, they even kept in that he's Hindu - and added that he's _also_ Baptist. That was just weird to me. Oh well.
*Original comment*
Imma have to re-find my mammoth comment about being annoyed at how they didn't stick to procedure at the very end - y'know, for posterity and whatnot. So, watch this space for when I find that 🙃
(And metrics. Good metrics.)
If you love the NASA-speak and always-to-procedure aspects, I heartily recommend Mary Robinette Kowal's Lady Astronaut series! Think The Martian meets Hidden Figures: an asteroid hits the eastern seaboard of the US in the mid 50s, scientists figure out that the resulting climate change will eventually render the planet uninhabitable, jump-starting the space program in an attempt to colonize the Moon and Mars. Lots of chewy examination of gender & racial dynamics accurate to the period and still relevant today!
Happy you reuploaded a video over a small thing you weren't happy with.
I've seen people make excuses and say they won't do it because it's too much effort, so good work on sticking to what you feel comfortable with.
This is genuinely one of my favorite books ever, and, even though it doesn't get as well translated, because the whole concept can be a bit introspective, what I love about the adaptation the most is the honest hope and "keep moving forward, one step at a time" sort of sentiment to it. There are very few characters that could be thought of as cynics, and even those have genuine moments of unironic, unadulterated feelings of hope or feel honestly terrible when things go wrong. I dunno, it just warms my heart and it feels kind of refreshing to read a story like that, and I think that, for as limited as a film that doesn't include the characters' inner monologues beyond Mark's occasional sidenote, this adaptation did well with the idea, even if it does feel like it played more into a sense of wonder towards something that everyone knows is as dangerous as it is marvelous.
I agree! It's also one of my favorites, not just for the reasons Dom listed, but because I watched it in January of 2017, when I really needed that shot of "humanity can be good sometimes" optimism.
Late to the game, but not only have I read the book and seen the movie, I can confirm that Andy Weir is indeed a cool bloke/genuinely happy, chill, enthusiastic nerd.
I mean I was already gonna rewatch but thanks for the motivation
as the result of a recent accident I am still on strong medication and this messed with my head when I saw it as I was thinking 'I already saw Dom do this, I know I did. Maybe I didn't maybe I just had a strange hallucination that was oddly future seeing'. I even remember remarking on how it was nice to see they only molded the content when a visual medium worked better with something, not because they just wanted to do a different story. when you respect the story and the characters you can be loyal without having to recreate every page. It would have been nice to see a bit more of the struggle, but it was still great. Glad to see it was a re-upload and that I haven't developed some strange fortune telling power that seems to only apply to RUclips videos.
I loved the book, loved the R.C. Bray audiobook, loved the Wil Wheaton edition and is my go-to movie whenever I feel down or bored. It's such a good story of human ingenuity and cooperation. Where there's not really a single bad guy, just a bunch of people trying to help and sometime disagreeing on how to do that.
I was never too hot on Wil Wheaton's narration. R.C. Bray hit out of the park and then into a Hohmann transfer orbit.
I've only ever heard Bray narrate this, and he makes it humorous and human in his telling
The funny thing about House is that there were so many easter egg jokes that only people with medical experience would get. It isn't just that they are throwing in enough jargon to make it realistic, they are throwing shade at doctors too.
I’ll gladly watch a Dominic Noble video twice. I usually watch them a couple times anyway, though usually not the very next day.
The Martian movie came out at a pivotal time for me, so the movie.and book.are really important to me. It's so nice to reflect on the growth that this was part of the inciting event. Thanks for your great work, Dom! ❤💖
One thing is the Space pirate logic doesn't make sense in the movie since he doesn't lose contact again, in the book he's a pirate because he can't ask permission, but in the movie he can cause he didn't lose contact again after setting out.
Ever since I first found your channel, I've been hoping you would review "The Martian". It's my favorite book to film adaptation and I was wondering what your thoughts would be on it. So glad you've finally put this together!
I'll say that my only two real issues I had with the movie are the Ironman bit at the end and the floating debris while the capsule Watney is in is still under acceleration.
This book is so important to me. I read it way back in late 2014, and 11 year old me absolutely loved the space and science. I still credit it with sending me down the STEM path. Also the joy when I re read it at 17 and understood the science jargon!
To quote Weir, Mars is the antagonist. All the characters are protagonists. Even teddy.
I was thinking why RUclips was recommending this if I already saw a couple of days ago.😆
Alright then, I'll rewatch the whole thing and give another like. It's worth it
I wasn't expecting to get so drawn into this film, and I was on the edge of my seat during the climax. You really feel the lonliness and isolations, and the desperation of the crew. I even welled up a bit during this video when you showed the moment they grabbed Watney. Just imagining feeling that first human contact after all that time alone.
Mark Watney may be one of the most compelling literary protagonists I have ever had the pleasure of reading. Equal parts admirable and relatable.
The Martian is just about one of the only sci-fi books I've been able to read without feeling utterly lost, and also, I just realized that the guy reading out censored curse words is Nick Mohammed, who plays Nate on 'Ted Lasso'. Thanks for covering it.
I am completely happy to watch this again, and will again say this is perhaps one of the single most faithful and well-done adaptations ever done. It's a top-tier adaptation in the company of The Princess Bride.
Watched this when it was posted the first time, and was inspired to reread the book. Just finished that half an hour ago. Picked up my phone and here's this again, and I can only assume it will make me read the book _again..._ Dom, you may have kicked off an endless cycle.😁
I mean, if you're going to *insist* on living up to your surname for the sake of good taste and viewer comfort.... well, we'll just have to let you and happily lap up another serving of Dom review. 😋
This is one of my favorite hard sci-fi movies, and my favorite "mission to Mars" movies by a significant margin (a surprisingly large genre.) I only had one issue with it as a guy who knows planetary science, and that was the Martian winds. The atmosphere on Mars is less than 1% as dense as Earth's, so even though the winds can blow at more than 100 mph they carry almost no real force. The wind isn't even strong enough to throw up pebbles, let alone dislodge a satellite dish and fling it at lethal velocity at someone's face. There IS a way the dust storm would have worked that DOES fit the science better, and that is the fact that it would basically blind the astronauts and disrupt their radios with all the massive amounts of static that much flying dust would generate. All you had to do was get him separated and fall into a hole or something to crack his helmet and there you go.
As a fellow "mission to Mars" story fan, I'd love to know what else is high on your list!
@@EmonEconomist there's the one that's actually called "Mission to Mars: M2M" the hilarious comedy Rocketman wherein the first words spoken on Mars are "it wasn't me!" Red Planet, John Carter (which I think is underrated) and of course, Total Recall (this is just a list, not a ranking) There are a few more Mars movies I'm aware of but I don't think they're very good
Iirc the Ares crew can’t return to space not only because of the mutiny/barratry incident, but because they were all exposed to so much radiation
Andy Weir is a massive talent. My sister is not a science fiction fan and she LOVES The Martian and Project Hail Mary.
The birth of this book is interesting enough to watch this video again. 🤓
Can I express my love for this book enough? No. Instead, I’ll tell y’all that I read the book 3 times and have now listened to the audio book 8 times. Wil Wheaten was so amazing that when I started listening to The Kaiju Preservation Society and immediately recognized his voice, I knew what kind of book I was getting myself into and geeked out.
My father was reluctant to listen to The Martian audiobook with me as “We’ve seen the movie; why do I need to listen to the book?” yet he’s enjoyed every moment of experiencing it with me.
This is my most re-listened to audiobook. I’ve only had Audible since, like, July.
When a coworker loaned me the book, I read it in two days because I couldn’t put it down. So despite it being far closer in adaptation than most book to movies, there is that tone difference that has me much prefer the book. The first line of your book being “I’m pretty much fucked. That’s my considered opinion. Fucked.” It sets a big tone. I know Andy Weir wanted to have an edited version appropriate for schools (is that version out now? I have not kept up), but for me, the crass language is part of the story. It helps bond me to Mark Watney who speaks his mind unfiltered. Plus I love the joke that NASA’s PR director is the most foul mouthed person of the whole organization. AND THEY CAST KRISTIN WIIG! Kristin Wiig is perfect for the R rated Annie from the book, and they toned her down considerably. Along with Sean Bean as Mitch, it was a disservice to both actor and character.
One change that Mr. Noble glossed over is the movie made the Space Pirate joke out of context. As discussed in many other places, Mark is a Space Pirate in the book because he has lost contact with NASA, so they cannot give him formal permission to take control of the Aries IV craft. However in the movie he is in contact the whole time, so NASA can grant permission, thus removing his crime of piracy. They loved the joke so much they threw it in anyways.
Movie isn’t bad by any means, and I get them wanting that PG-13 since the only thing is the language. Just my two cents and how I just adore this book. I aspire to become, Botanist Cool.
I absolutely love Andy’s writing
Man, DN is getting good at editing. Look at him pop out from behind that author.
I’ve seen that ad with Matt Damon about crypto in the theater multiple times and I never made that connection, but you’re definitely right
10:09 Technically it's barratry, not mutiny. But Weir didn't know that at the time and the wrong crime is consistently used throughout both book and film.
When he said el james is el james you can tell years are coming back to him
The Martian is one of my favorite books and adaptations so you bet your ass I'm gonna rewatch this video
I think this was the first time ever that I *didn't* want to keep on reading a book because I didn't want it to end. I wanted it to keep going on forever. Also, I remember how stressed I got when the third person narration began describing the slope in the crater that ended up turning over his vehicle. The anxiety was *real*, because I knew what that meant.
I got a teensy bit disappointed by the movie, but only because they left both of the road trip biggest obstacles out. Everything else was so good. Matt Damon is an excellent Watney.
That's weird I dreamed this same exact video a couple of days ago. Well I guess I'll see it again
I just got broken up with over the phone so this will make a lovely distraction
Best book to movie adaptation I've ever seen.
The Martian is my favorite standalone book and I try to get everybody to read it. It's so freaking good.
As a lover of hard sci-fi, I adore this movie, & the book’s just moved up on my to-read list. Also, Gen Z here- to answer your question: yes, House is one of many shows I watched with my parents as a kid, so I remember it fondly & I’d say it still has some relevance. Awesome work as always!
It took until the second viewing of the film to realise the meaning behind the Mars missions being called 'Ares'
And the Hermes being the interplanetary transport vessel?
@@EmonEconomist .......fuck
it's so good to see Dom actually happy for reviewing something for a change ^^
A good companion piece to these is the novel The Martian Race by Gregory Benford - it's essentially about how corporations and sponsors take over from NASA and compete against each other to make landfall and be the first back from Mars in 2015.
There's a lot of scathing commentary in it, one good example is how the team we follow is literally sponsored by Mars Bars and even though all the crew members hate them it's the most compact form of edible calories they have so they're kind of forced to snack on them, especially since the equipment was all made for cheap and needs constant repairs.
“Tension eggs” and “poop potatoes”…dinner of champions!
The “Starman” montage gets me every time, too
"I'm going to have to science the shit out of this" was the part of the trailer (which was my first introduction to the movie and book) where I just immediately went full simp for this. I bought the book at the first possible opportunity and devoured it, then went to see this in theaters.
Me, about to go sleep, 6 hours ago: "Mhhhh I need something soothing yet entertaining to fall asleep to"
Dominic: *Re-uploads*
Me: BINGO
This is literally my single favorite book of all time. I'm not kidding, I've listened to the Audible audio book at least 27 times now, and I just love everything about it. I just recently got his newest book, Project Hail Mary, and so far I love it almost as much.
Having been born in 1998, I don't know if I'm a Millenial or Gen Z, but I understood the House, M.D. reference.
Okay, again, Melinda Park is Korean in the book. But I didn't know that reading it and only found out after seeing the movie
Mindy was Korean in Andy Weir's head, but he didn't put anything in the book that gave any indication of her ethnicity.
@@donsample1002 so that's what happened. I pretty much forgot that.
I assumed she was Korean or had Korean ancestry after listening to the audio book. I was very confused by the switch in the movie!
When this movie came out I had just completed my degree in physics and me and my friends (classmates) absolutely loved everything about this
thanks for the reupload
I loved the Martian. It was a great book and a wonderful adaptation as well. Also, can you please please do one on Bridge to Terebithia? It is a movie that holds a very special place in my heart and I would love to hear your opinion on it. I've heard quite a few people say that it's one of those movies that's better than the books.
Oh no, guess I’ll have have to watch it again >:3
Giving this a second watch to help Dominic out! It's a good video
I very much love this book and movie. Though you forgot to mention that in the movie, Watney would not be a space pirate as NASA would give him permission to board the MAV
"swore like a sailor" why yes, they are sailors of the stars! 😄
Isn't that where the "naut" in "astronaut" comes from? Doesn't it mean something like star sailor?
@@mirjanbouma bingo!
@@WindWalker666 my interest in etymology wins again! ✊🏼
I shall watch this again.
FOR THE ALGORITHM!!!!
Dom: reuploads video
Me, in Goofy voice: I'll f*ckin watch it again!
Glad about the reupload. Had only gotten the chance to watch the original after the edit and saw it was front was cut off, commenting as such before. Always enjoy seeing your videos.
Random clips from House perpetually popping up on RUclips ensures that your reference is still relevant
They blow the hole in the front of the Hermes, that's the point - blowing it in the side wouldn't have slowed them down but would have thrown them off-course.
There must be a version out there where Sean Bean dies
Great video, Dom! Happy to watch it again to boost your analytics! 👍🏻
I regularly go back to this audiobook, not narrated by Wil, every six months or so. It is so heckin good.
And I have the movie too. A personal favorite.
I got fainted on seeing this movie in the theater, lol. The guy behind me lost consciousness during the opening scene with all the blood and fell directly on top of me. I thought he was dead for sure--but then he popped right back up a minute later. They had to stop the movie and call the paramedics and everything. Memorable, to be sure.
Was the guy fainting related to the movie, or was it just a random medical issue?
One story I remember about the Martian for those curious was that one of the accolades the movie one was the Golden Globe for the Best Picture, but strangely it was for the Comedy category instead of the drama. From what I gathered the reasoning behind this ruling was because the for-your-consideration-campaign tried to passed the movie more off as a comedy by containing a cast of actors mostly known for comedic roles as well as the various jokes sprinkled throughout the movie.
This gained quite a bit of controversy from known comedy directors like Judd Apatow so the rules were changed for later Golden Globes in which movies that are distinctly dramas will always only be considered for the drama category, even if there are some comedic undertones.
Oh, a re-upload? Guess I'll watch it again 😅
Yay! An excuse to watch this one again! (Not that I need one.)
Let's be honest: we never *need* an excuse to rewatch a Dom video.
Read a scifi novel where the first thing friendly aliens ask for is duct tape because they’re amazed by it.
A video on 2001 would be especially interesting to see given how it wasn't the typical book to film adaptation. It went from short story to film then to novel.
Amazing! I actually went through the book years ago before I had decided to watch the movie so this amounts to one of my few personal 'Lost in Adaption' moments. As such, I was thrilled when I saw the title for Dom's latest video. Really enjoyed it!
Enjoyed this vid and Dominic's enthusiasm for the film and story.
I'm really glad you brought up House MD.