One of the odd part about the prediction-suggestion episodes that end up being largely realised is that it really shouldn't be that surprising. Your predictions especially are usually just sensible good ideas that are reasonably achievable within the momentum of the medium, and I mean that as a compliment. Anyone who is paid a massive wage and back-end to manage the biggest movie franchises in the world should be expected to come up with concepts at LEAST this good, and that they keep falling vastly short says a great deal about how much they deserve that money.
I think that’s why Bob includes the disclaimer of “this is a pitch I came up with, independent of budget issues, actor schedules, studio meddling, etc.” because all those things can contribute the problems we see in modern film. All it takes is one executive going “I don’t want to portray Reed as a dick” and this whole pitch goes out the window. “I don’t want to redo captain America. Make them from the modern age.” Or “set it fully in 60’s and have them launched to the future at the end” and now you gotta write a whole new concept.
I can not agree more about Doctor Doom(doubly so for Galactus). He is the threat you build to, not the throw away villain you feed to the team right out of the gate. The question the screen writers need to ask themselves is,"Who is the biggest threat to the team after Doctor Doom?". The answer is Galactus, but again you have to build to that. If they use Doctor Doom and Galactus too early the studios will be asking us to take Paste Pot Pete seriously. I...I just can't do that.
The Avengers robots should reflect what those characters actually looked like in the 60's comics. That would totally be the chef's kiss for all of this.
I always really liked your “how I’d fix it” and “How I’d reboot it” pitch series. I’d love to see more of them if you have ones you genuinely want to make.
You're not the only person I watch who pitches the occasional movie plot. Fandom used to have a blast with "Movie Fights" and giving pie in the sky story ideas for films. Since the entertainment strike is likely to slow down much of entertainment news, I'd say, when you think the time is right for content. Go for it! Your FF MCU pitch is really compelling and there are plenty of other characters you could apply your semi-useless comicbook knowledge to propping up good comic ideas that just need a little polish. Oh, and thank you for this trip down memory lane. You're still one of my favorite of all time YT media critics.
Since the moment I discovered your work back at the escapist I've been impressed with you knowledge and analysis. Thank you for your dedication and will to share your passion
Thanks for the ongoing pandemic recognition, Bob. I’ve also “complied” via a number of ways but my work team and I always talk about the pandemic because we’re in the health profession so it’s impossible to forget/downplay.
i'm tired of Bob beating a dead horse at this point, most people have moved in even in my blue state, I don't see what good it does, Bob is only preaching to the choir here, the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists aren't going to be convinced one way or another.
@@jadedheartsz I don’t think he’s under any delusions about influence; he’s sharing his honest opinion about the situation. There’s an uptick literally happening right now - sure it may not seem much in comparison to before, but lots of hospitals and other health care services are still reeling and understaffed from the thick of the pandemic. I appreciate any reminder that comes along from those with any platform they have - who knows he might even reach a few people who resolve to start taking some precautions again.
The purpose is not to convince people it was a thing. It's to validate how much things changed because of the pandemic and how it's effects are very much very very ongoing.
@@igosduikana3537 Still, I disagree with Bob: The pandemic is OVER...at least as far as it being a national health emergency when Biden declared it such on April 11 of this year. Is it still with us? Yes. But at this point, most people have been vaccinated. The only ones for whom it would still be an ongoing concern would be the elderly and the immunocompromised. (I don't care about those who are willfully unvaccinated. Let them dig their own graves.) But no one really cares anymore. No one's demanding you show your vaccination cards. Hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore. And these days if you're seen out wearing one, you'd be less seen as being cautious and more seen as being paranoid. We are at the point where it is now ENdemic rather than PANdemic; we are learning to live with it. We can expect to get annual boosters for it just like we get our flu shots every year. Sorry Bob. As well-meaning as you are, you're wrong on this one.
I would genuinely LOVE for this to come back! They were always my favorite types of videos you put out. Obviously they're a time sink, since you have to spend time outlining a pitch AS WELL as writing, shooting, and editing what's basically a higher-than-average-quality fanfic, but I wouldn't say no to more. Also, somehow I'm JUST learning of the Captain Planet write up from the comments to this video. Heck, turning that into the next "How I'd Do it" would honestly be AMAZING lol
I fully support more of this kind of speculative content. Not only is it fun from a "what if?" perspective, it's also educational, i.e., it gives a peek into the process of crafting themes, arcs, stories and plots.
Would definitely enjoy more speculation/fanfic movie what-ifs from ya They're fun and your interest in the given material shows in the finished product.
I really hope Alicia makes an appearance in the MCU. She a great character. Her romance with the Thing is adorable. And it will give a blind actress a chance to get a lot of exposure and a paycheck.
Not to mention the few superpowered actors out there. Sure, if you can burst into flames at command, you can just, not, and play the part of, another superhero or something. Not so easy for rockmonsters. Uncredited scene as a background boulder, best you get. :( Jokes aside, I'm all for visually impaired actors getting jobs, but the usual, idea, that actors need to be who they are acting as, be it race, creed or orientation(s), mildly bugs me. That's not acting, that's being.
@@Kumimono if disabled actors were hired at the same rate as abled bodied actors I would agree with you. Unfortunately that doesn't happen. One of the few times disabled actors get a role is if the character they are portraying has a disability. It's not right, but it's the world we live in.
Yes, please, more of this! Also, given the double strike going on in Hollywood at the moment, I don't suppose we might start seeing new episodes of REALLY THAT GOOD before the year is out? Maybe? (Pretty please?)
I've been watching Bob since a friend shared his early "Game OverThinker" vids with me not long after Bob had uploaded them, so if you think _you're_ old... :D
So glad I gave you a chance during your early days at the Escapist and Game Overthinker, and yeah, I too found myself with a lot more gray in my hair after your original postings of these videos. Keep it up, Bob. Here's a like for the Algorithm, a comment for Mod Gods, and a view (or three) for the View Throne.
I’ve always felt that the FF: 1) should be from the 1960s of the timeline that Cap went to to stay with Peggy - thus history unfolds differently; 2) other than Cap and possibly Submariner, they are the first modern “superheroes” - but much more in the Doc Savage/Jonny Quest adventurer vein; and 3) it should be a period piece in the alt-1960s - riffing off all the 60s style and aesthetic along with whatever Tomorrowland vibes you can put in. Two movies in that timeline; Doom is villain for number 2; Kang eliminates it at the end of number 2; number 3 is set on Battleworld or in mainline MCU.
Great video. It's great/sad that you put more thought into this story than a lot of filmmakers do nowadays. I'd love to see more of these, even if they go off into psuedo-fan-fic-y directions. 1:40 a Remo Williams reference never fails to warm my heart. and 32:15 a reference to NFL Superpro? no joke, i am right now toying around with a story idea of my OC superhero dealing with a deranged fan who has NFL Superpro's suit and is enraged no one considers it a "Collector's Item"
This did hold up quite nicely. Plus, I think the whole "organization miraculously appears to help start-up superheroes" part of this pitch actually works better in a post-Avengers MCU, with that team disbanded and several members being either retired or dead. So the Fantastic Four or some other group (X-Men, for example) could the hot and new group of "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" until we need "The Avengers" again for Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
And Jennifer Walters can offer to be their legal representation and Reed Richards is particularly interested since she could introduce to him to Bruce Banner.
I like when Bob pitches stuff. Like, "The Big Pitch-er" or "In Bob We Pitch", its enjoyable for the same reason an Adam Blampied "How I'd Book" wrestling video. Even if it's not a prediction, I like seeing how Bob would do things if he specifically was given the scripts pen and had say over themes and casting and etc. Like I would love to hear how Bob would slide Ghost Rider into the MCU
Ghost rider did briefly appear in agents of shield. He was supposed to get a spin-off, but all the Pearlmutter nonsense messed that up. If he does reappear I expect it would be through the Blade films.
I actually reference your original FF pitch video quite a lot as an example of what I consider the best case scenario, not for the time travel element but because of how you propose to handle all the characters. I'm dying for supehero movies to go back to being about low stakes personal growth, instead of saving the whole damn world/timeline/multiverse or whatever.
Off all the predictions, ideas and free thought in this look back at your take on the Fantastic Four I gotta say I hope they heed the 'don't use Doctor Doom' rule.
Ill gladly watch this again. I adore your "thought experiments" - Do you think you could do one on how to make the Punisher movie we have been waiting for?
Hey Bob, since you showed Henchmen 21 & 24 and we’re talking about 60’s kitch, do you have any plans on covering The Venture Brothers in lieu of the “finale” movie
Yeah when the new flash movie came out I kept thinking about your flashpoint pitch. Like you said, alot of what was right may or may not have been that crazy to call it was still cool to remember. Awesome job Bob... that was unintentional.
I agree that Marvel should hold back on Galactus and Dr Doom. The fact that Fox has used those villains suggests Marvel will hold back (Homecoming aggressively avoided repeating any story beat covered by the previous 5 Spider-Man outings) but with Fantastic Four, the picking are slim when it comes to well known villains
Bob I feel like time and again you're actually really good at predicting this stuff. The MCU (and other properties - I think you called the Mario movie like 5 years in advance) hasn't been surprising to me for like the past 7 years since I've been watching you lol.
When it comes to beyond the trailer I don't mind her but I do find her sometimes having strange views, like going along with the whole Mary sue nonsense (she says some things that are kind of anti feminism sometimes and is more don't put male audiences to far out of their comfort zone) and sometimes judges films based on the special effects in the trailer (cause of which she's already decided that the marvels will be a bad film, purely on that poimt) or just says that movies she admits she hasn't seen is bad (her last Oscars video had her completely trashing a film she said she hadn't bothered watching for her show about the Oscars, which is highly unprofessional). She sometimes has some good content but also sometimes has some weird and bad takes. Really the only reason I watch her content is cause she does have some insiders and knows how to talk about movie ratings and box office numbers, unlike a lot of Internet movie channels (who call bombs successes or successful films bombs, cause they don't understand box office numbers, normallyan babies wanting something to be a success or failure and spinning it that way). Basically I watch her content more for the business side of things rather than her reviews or takes. Movie business wise she's good.
Honestly Reed smoking a pipe is gonna be a real easy touchstone for how the world has changed. Something he wants to do when he's stressed is now frowned upon. You can't smoke on TV, in restaurants, near kids....
Yes please, more fan-fic suggestion-predictions! I actually revisited those two episodes about half a week ago, so colour me surprised that you rerelease them with commentary just a day or two later. :D
This is some of my favorite content you’ve ever put out. This and your earlier DC Universe ones were amazing. I’d happily increase my Patreon support if it meant getting more of your takes and story ideas on these.
The only thing off about these predictions are the credit scenes. So far in the MCU, only 6 credit scenes didn't feature a character from earlier in the movie. If you're wondering which 6 they are, it's Winter Soldier's Mid credit, Age Of Ultron, Infinity War, No Way Home's midcredit, and then depending on if you count the variants of Kang as a different person, both Quantumania credit scenes. If Kang counts as all his variants then the number is actually 4. That's something I like about the MCU. They use the credit scenes to set up the future, but most of the time they do it with context from the film you just watched.
My prediction had been that the F4 movies would happen in the same alternate timeline that Steve Rogers created by going back to the 40s. He would eventually befriend them, and this would lead to Reed developing interdimensional travel tech that would give Steve the ability to cross back to his home dimension for that end of Endgame scene. Mind you, this prediction was made before Loki defined itself as the point the Multiverse resurfaced.
Hey, awesome video as always! I also just have to say, thank you for putting that COVID psa thing on so many videos. It is starting to feel like an episode of the Twilight Zone out here, even people I had faith in to think of others are out there acting like this shit is over. My fiancee is a hospital nurse and is still seeing COVID filling hospital beds and killing people while other nurses in the same hospital are acting like it's over, even. And yet we get shit for wearing masks in enclosed public spaces! It just means a lot to see you putting the word out there, and it's refreshing to remember we aren’t the only ones who still care about immunocompromized humans ❤
I jist heard in another video that Marvel is planning for Sue to be the main focus of their first _Fantastic Four_ film, wich may mean that her arc of going from thinking that the best she can do for the world is to fade away while his husband does the work to someone proactive that embraces all her facets will be front and center (unless the Higher Ups have a different plan, but that would be a shame, Bob's propossal intertwines so well the FF powers with their personalities and character developtment that I couldn't imagine anything better in that regard)
I really do dig the "How I'd Do" stuff. I would love to see more. Heck, I still think of the Captain Planet write-up whenever I see anything about that franchise.
I just rewatched the original videos not long ago. Apparently when these first dropped I was in a good place emotionally and there was a comfort food aspect to them I wasn't expecting. I'm happy that I'm not the only one who had a strong, positive response to them.
Whatever Fantastic Four movie we get, I’m sure everything can agree on one thing. It won’t be nearly as bad as the 2015…. Whatever the hell that was. Never thought I’d be nostalgic for the 2000s FF adaptations, but there you go.
Grace Randolph pisses me off from time to time. Sometimes she offers thought provoking and unique perspectives worth debating though. Movie Math is always interesting to watch as well.
Yeah this was always one of your better ones. Doing "The Incredibles but also Austin Powers" out of time approach with 60's retrofuturististic thunderbirds stuff, is a good and easy beat for the MCU. "Directed by Federick Foswell did get a giggle out of me
Also I'd forgotten there was a time where people talked about AoS like it was something that mattered in the slightest 😂 different world now, literally
If they ever do Puppetmaster, it would be a missed opportunity not to reimagine his “acceptable” face as someone who is essentially cloning heroes (and later we find, villains) with technology, as an effort to replace them all with AI. Sure, it’s a bit on the nose, but it’s super topical. The F4 have a set of powers that don’t exist in the MCU currently, so that’s why he’s interested. The F4 can beat him and his puppets because of the value and creativity of real people and real teams.
If they do go in the time travel from the past direction (or even if they don't but especially if they do), there is one thing I'd really want them to, though they probably won't: make Johnny gay. Even aside from getting more queer representation in the MCU (which we despatately need), it would give his character an interesting arc for the first movie. You would have someone who has had to stay in the closet his whole life because he came from an era where being queer was much, much more stigmatized and dangerous than it is today, to a world where it's far more accepted and he can finally be himself, though he would still be trepidatious about it at first. And of course we would be able to go into how the other three would deal with it. Personally, I see Sue being supportive of her brother, especially since she would have figured it out years ago, Ben wouldn't really understand it but would be alright with Johnny doing what makes him happy. And Reed, the most old fashioned one, would be the one to have a problem with it and think that it's wrong, and he would have to overcome that bigotry by the end of the movie. And like I said, I know they're probably not going to go in that direction, but it would be so awesome if they did. Plus, it would piss off the chuds, so that's always fun too.
The original two videos are my favorite of yours, so I’m glad to see them get popular. PD I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who don’t like Grace Randolph.
I think a pitch on an X-Men D+ series or film series would be quite interesting. And we seem to have years until they get to it. I'm just curious if they'll stick to the typical X-Men trapping at this point, or just say "fuck it" and start them on Krakoa. using that as the excuse to why X-Men just haven't been in the mainstream hero-beat for over a decade. They got themselves into hiding, erased their identities from the map, and have been living in relative peace. Only thing that fucks it up is, oh, I don't know, a big giant dude frozen in the ocean and their living Island just happens to get too close to it while it's being checked out by Captain America's new team or something.
I still very much agree that Doom needs to be saved for the sequel. Part of me is wondering if The Wizard would be a suitable opponent. He might work as a negative version of Reed's futurism.
Bob, can we get that PSA as a separate video? I need to make links to it much too regularly. I loved your pitch when it was first released, and I think that the only change it needs is what Reed is trying to do to undo things. He's not trying to recreate the experiment that gave them their powers. Instead he's trying to recreate Tony Stark's time travel tech to go back and fix not just his family, but everything he sees as "wrong" with the modern world. Thematically, the moment when he gives up on "fixing things" to go help his family in the now would be so much more powerful.
Probably wouldn't be a face to face on screen interaction, but I could see them doing a one-off gag when the FF are catching up on what happened since they were gone, and a shot of Captain America induces even more confusion about what year it is. Same vibe as the spider-man gag where Cap appearing in the gym class PSA video tape is bookended by "I'm pretty sure he's a criminal now"
To answer your question, yes, I would be interested in more “how I’d do it” videos. I’m hoping your increased videos recently will translate to more income so you can make it viable.
Hey Bob. Long time viewer, seldom engager. I appreciate your views and perspective quite a lot. Any chance we can get your Pandemic PSA as a stand-alone video, maybe a short? I think it’s honestly a message that needs to be spread more. 7:25
Wow, 7 years? I remember watching those videos when they came out. I enjoyed the videos and the general idea so i wouldn't mind seeing it in the real MCU.
Yeah, can't help noticing that little jab Bob took at Kang, at 15:25-15:44, which he would also criticize the Defenders for, and you can't really blame him for that. After all, regardless of just how much potential they're bringing MCU Kang to the table with, it really does seem like a lot of people just aren't all that interested in him...and it's not hard to see why. Because the simple fact of the matter is, unless we're talking Doctor Doom...or quite possibly, Galactus...anyone who tried to follow Thanos as the MCU's new Big Bad was ALWAYS going to be a step down on the podium, no matter HOW well he was written. Adding to that, the fact that Kang, historically, has always been a C-List villain, at best, REALLY doesn't help his case any, either. And Marvel's smart enough to know that forcing the issue, if no one really wants him there, is not a wise thing to do. So, with that in mind, it might make doing a Fantastic Four movie right even MORE important. At least, that's just my thinking on it.
Agreed, and I would add that from a character perspective, he’s just not very interesting. He just wants to Conquer as his name implies. No nuance, no “maybe he has a point”. He can be acted as well as you like but that just isn’t very compelling.
@@JamesRoyceDawson Well,. again, "Loki" introduced him as having this whole boatload of potential, having him just bury the needle on the "creep-o-meter" and possibly utilizing the whole "time travel" conceit in ways we may not have seen employed before (at least by Kang himself). But at the end of the day, he's still just being played up as one of those "mad scientist" types, who's underappreciated by the rest of the world and overappreciated in his own mind. Hell, I remember Bob's review of "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania", and how he outlined that Scott was pretty much the only member of the Avengers that Kang would be able to manipulate the way he did, or be a challenge to defeat, because Steve would have been his usual righteuous, unflappable self, Kang's personality would have just bounced right off of Tony's whole "too cool for the room" routine, and Bruce and Thor would have just punched him really hard. So...yeah.
My favorite episodes of In Bob We Trust are the ones about how to fix upcoming movies, like a proposed TERMINATOR reboot that sounds better than the last 2 we had, and a 3rd "Escape From..." movie that basically answers the question "What If Snake Pliskin lived in the same world as Judge Dredd?" Check 'em out. If Marvel's eyeballing Bb's pitch about how to put the F4 into the MCU, maybe they'll also look at his pitch about bringing in the X-Men. Don't let them steal it, Bob! CHARGE them for it!
One of the odd part about the prediction-suggestion episodes that end up being largely realised is that it really shouldn't be that surprising. Your predictions especially are usually just sensible good ideas that are reasonably achievable within the momentum of the medium, and I mean that as a compliment. Anyone who is paid a massive wage and back-end to manage the biggest movie franchises in the world should be expected to come up with concepts at LEAST this good, and that they keep falling vastly short says a great deal about how much they deserve that money.
I think that’s why Bob includes the disclaimer of “this is a pitch I came up with, independent of budget issues, actor schedules, studio meddling, etc.” because all those things can contribute the problems we see in modern film. All it takes is one executive going “I don’t want to portray Reed as a dick” and this whole pitch goes out the window. “I don’t want to redo captain America. Make them from the modern age.” Or “set it fully in 60’s and have them launched to the future at the end” and now you gotta write a whole new concept.
I can not agree more about Doctor Doom(doubly so for Galactus). He is the threat you build to, not the throw away villain you feed to the team right out of the gate. The question the screen writers need to ask themselves is,"Who is the biggest threat to the team after Doctor Doom?". The answer is Galactus, but again you have to build to that. If they use Doctor Doom and Galactus too early the studios will be asking us to take Paste Pot Pete seriously. I...I just can't do that.
If the Blue Man Group of Kang is no longer on the table, then Doom finding a way to harness the same stuff would work for me
The Avengers robots should reflect what those characters actually looked like in the 60's comics. That would totally be the chef's kiss for all of this.
That’d be pretty cute, honestly.
You could even joke about people finding those designs “inaccurate”.
I was thinking the exact same thing even back then.
I always really liked your “how I’d fix it” and “How I’d reboot it” pitch series. I’d love to see more of them if you have ones you genuinely want to make.
You're not the only person I watch who pitches the occasional movie plot. Fandom used to have a blast with "Movie Fights" and giving pie in the sky story ideas for films. Since the entertainment strike is likely to slow down much of entertainment news, I'd say, when you think the time is right for content. Go for it! Your FF MCU pitch is really compelling and there are plenty of other characters you could apply your semi-useless comicbook knowledge to propping up good comic ideas that just need a little polish. Oh, and thank you for this trip down memory lane. You're still one of my favorite of all time YT media critics.
Since the moment I discovered your work back at the escapist I've been impressed with you knowledge and analysis. Thank you for your dedication and will to share your passion
Thanks for the ongoing pandemic recognition, Bob. I’ve also “complied” via a number of ways but my work team and I always talk about the pandemic because we’re in the health profession so it’s impossible to forget/downplay.
i'm tired of Bob beating a dead horse at this point, most people have moved in even in my blue state, I don't see what good it does, Bob is only preaching to the choir here, the anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists aren't going to be convinced one way or another.
@@jadedheartsz I don’t think he’s under any delusions about influence; he’s sharing his honest opinion about the situation. There’s an uptick literally happening right now - sure it may not seem much in comparison to before, but lots of hospitals and other health care services are still reeling and understaffed from the thick of the pandemic. I appreciate any reminder that comes along from those with any platform they have - who knows he might even reach a few people who resolve to start taking some precautions again.
The purpose is not to convince people it was a thing. It's to validate how much things changed because of the pandemic and how it's effects are very much very very ongoing.
@@igosduikana3537 Still, I disagree with Bob: The pandemic is OVER...at least as far as it being a national health emergency when Biden declared it such on April 11 of this year.
Is it still with us? Yes. But at this point, most people have been vaccinated. The only ones for whom it would still be an ongoing concern would be the elderly and the immunocompromised. (I don't care about those who are willfully unvaccinated. Let them dig their own graves.)
But no one really cares anymore. No one's demanding you show your vaccination cards. Hardly anyone is wearing masks anymore. And these days if you're seen out wearing one, you'd be less seen as being cautious and more seen as being paranoid. We are at the point where it is now ENdemic rather than PANdemic; we are learning to live with it. We can expect to get annual boosters for it just like we get our flu shots every year.
Sorry Bob. As well-meaning as you are, you're wrong on this one.
@@igosduikana3537COVID has not vanished, but it is no longer a pandemic and it seems irresponsible to claim it is.
I would genuinely LOVE for this to come back! They were always my favorite types of videos you put out. Obviously they're a time sink, since you have to spend time outlining a pitch AS WELL as writing, shooting, and editing what's basically a higher-than-average-quality fanfic, but I wouldn't say no to more.
Also, somehow I'm JUST learning of the Captain Planet write up from the comments to this video. Heck, turning that into the next "How I'd Do it" would honestly be AMAZING lol
Man, been a long while since I heard the "In Bob we Trust" theme. Nice to hear it again
I fully support more of this kind of speculative content. Not only is it fun from a "what if?" perspective, it's also educational, i.e., it gives a peek into the process of crafting themes, arcs, stories and plots.
Would definitely enjoy more speculation/fanfic movie what-ifs from ya
They're fun and your interest in the given material shows in the finished product.
I really hope Alicia makes an appearance in the MCU. She a great character. Her romance with the Thing is adorable. And it will give a blind actress a chance to get a lot of exposure and a paycheck.
Not to mention the few superpowered actors out there. Sure, if you can burst into flames at command, you can just, not, and play the part of, another superhero or something. Not so easy for rockmonsters. Uncredited scene as a background boulder, best you get. :( Jokes aside, I'm all for visually impaired actors getting jobs, but the usual, idea, that actors need to be who they are acting as, be it race, creed or orientation(s), mildly bugs me. That's not acting, that's being.
@@Kumimono if disabled actors were hired at the same rate as abled bodied actors I would agree with you. Unfortunately that doesn't happen. One of the few times disabled actors get a role is if the character they are portraying has a disability. It's not right, but it's the world we live in.
Why would she have to be blind? Neither of Daredevil's actors are blind.
Was the actress who played Alicia in the 2005 F4 movie blind for real?
@@louisduarte8763 Kerry Washington is not blind.
Yes, please, more of this!
Also, given the double strike going on in Hollywood at the moment, I don't suppose we might start seeing new episodes of REALLY THAT GOOD before the year is out? Maybe? (Pretty please?)
He once said he might do a LoTR Really that Good one day....
Pepperidge Farm remembers!
@@kounurasaka5590 I remember that, too! (I just didn't want to add to any pressure, is all. 😅)
I'm hoping with Gladiator 2 coming soon,we get a Really That Good: Gladiator.
32:15 You should do a series where you take Marvel's (or any company really) worst ideas and see how the MCU could make them work.
I've been watching Bob for 7 years?! 😮
His pitch was dope, so I hope some of it actually is in Marvel's release
I still thank Bob for encouraging me to see The Cabin in the Woods, my favourite meta horror movie. That was 11 years ago.
I’ve been watching Bob since the late ‘00s Escapist days. I feel old AF now
I've been watching Bob since a friend shared his early "Game OverThinker" vids with me not long after Bob had uploaded them, so if you think _you're_ old... :D
Been watching him for probably 15 at this point. Dude has solid movie critiques.
I sometimes have to remember that I am old and started watching Escape to the Movies back in like 2009 when I was still in high school. Time flies!
Every time you do the COVID PSA I cheer - THANK YOU!
Your description of that hypothetical midcredits stinger still gives me chills. Absolute perfection.
Wow I did not expect bob to have a disliking to grace Randolph.
I still remember reading your pitch for a Captain Planet movie, maybe we could get a video looking back at that?
So glad I gave you a chance during your early days at the Escapist and Game Overthinker, and yeah, I too found myself with a lot more gray in my hair after your original postings of these videos.
Keep it up, Bob. Here's a like for the Algorithm, a comment for Mod Gods, and a view (or three) for the View Throne.
Doom raises his fist to the sky, he throws back his head and yells "I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME, GADGET!"
I’ve always felt that the FF: 1) should be from the 1960s of the timeline that Cap went to to stay with Peggy - thus history unfolds differently; 2) other than Cap and possibly Submariner, they are the first modern “superheroes” - but much more in the Doc Savage/Jonny Quest adventurer vein; and 3) it should be a period piece in the alt-1960s - riffing off all the 60s style and aesthetic along with whatever Tomorrowland vibes you can put in.
Two movies in that timeline; Doom is villain for number 2; Kang eliminates it at the end of number 2; number 3 is set on Battleworld or in mainline MCU.
These were absolutely worthy of a fresh look! I remember these videos from back then. I loved the ideas then and still do. Good job!
It's been 7 years? Jeez... still, so fun to revisit.
Great video. It's great/sad that you put more thought into this story than a lot of filmmakers do nowadays. I'd love to see more of these, even if they go off into psuedo-fan-fic-y directions.
1:40 a Remo Williams reference never fails to warm my heart. and 32:15 a reference to NFL Superpro? no joke, i am right now toying around with a story idea of my OC superhero dealing with a deranged fan who has NFL Superpro's suit and is enraged no one considers it a "Collector's Item"
Fantastic job. Please do more of these, Bob.
This did hold up quite nicely. Plus, I think the whole "organization miraculously appears to help start-up superheroes" part of this pitch actually works better in a post-Avengers MCU, with that team disbanded and several members being either retired or dead. So the Fantastic Four or some other group (X-Men, for example) could the hot and new group of "Earth's Mightiest Heroes" until we need "The Avengers" again for Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
And Jennifer Walters can offer to be their legal representation and Reed Richards is particularly interested since she could introduce to him to Bruce Banner.
I like when Bob pitches stuff. Like, "The Big Pitch-er" or "In Bob We Pitch", its enjoyable for the same reason an Adam Blampied "How I'd Book" wrestling video. Even if it's not a prediction, I like seeing how Bob would do things if he specifically was given the scripts pen and had say over themes and casting and etc. Like I would love to hear how Bob would slide Ghost Rider into the MCU
Ghost rider did briefly appear in agents of shield. He was supposed to get a spin-off, but all the Pearlmutter nonsense messed that up.
If he does reappear I expect it would be through the Blade films.
I actually reference your original FF pitch video quite a lot as an example of what I consider the best case scenario, not for the time travel element but because of how you propose to handle all the characters. I'm dying for supehero movies to go back to being about low stakes personal growth, instead of saving the whole damn world/timeline/multiverse or whatever.
Off all the predictions, ideas and free thought in this look back at your take on the Fantastic Four I gotta say I hope they heed the 'don't use Doctor Doom' rule.
RICHAAAAAARDS!
I enjoyed this when it first came out and again on rewatch here. It'd be great to see more content like this!
You should totally do more of these prediction/"how I would do it" plot lines
Ill gladly watch this again. I adore your "thought experiments" - Do you think you could do one on how to make the Punisher movie we have been waiting for?
I've been watching your videos since I was a kid. Your recent batch of reviewing your own old content has been a real nostalgia trip for me.
i would love more stuff like this. its some of my favorite work you did from the old days. Even if there was some way to do it short hand
Hey Bob, since you showed Henchmen 21 & 24 and we’re talking about 60’s kitch, do you have any plans on covering The Venture Brothers in lieu of the “finale” movie
Yeah when the new flash movie came out I kept thinking about your flashpoint pitch. Like you said, alot of what was right may or may not have been that crazy to call it was still cool to remember. Awesome job Bob... that was unintentional.
Well done on the weight loss, and yes perhaps the same thought experiment on James Gunns DC films would be interesting.
I wouldn't mind you doing DC predictions, as much as I liked the Snyderverse i'm very intrigued to see what Gunn has in store for the future movies.
I agree that Marvel should hold back on Galactus and Dr Doom. The fact that Fox has used those villains suggests Marvel will hold back (Homecoming aggressively avoided repeating any story beat covered by the previous 5 Spider-Man outings) but with Fantastic Four, the picking are slim when it comes to well known villains
What WOULD they do with Fin Fang Foom or Mole-Man?
Also, yeah, I'd be into a return to the "how I'd fix" series. DCEU or otherwise I loved some of your takes. The Terminator one was inspired.
5:14 looking great!
Bob I feel like time and again you're actually really good at predicting this stuff. The MCU (and other properties - I think you called the Mario movie like 5 years in advance) hasn't been surprising to me for like the past 7 years since I've been watching you lol.
As a casual viewer I wasn't aware of your health improvement journey. Keep it up! You're doing great!
I'd love to see you do a few of these again.
These pitch videos were what got me interested in your channel. ❤
I hope you do more of these.
On an unrelated note, anyone else feel that Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was a Fantastic Four story but with the Lang-Pym family instead?
I cant believe this was 7 years ago. I still think about this pitch regularly
Get a lawyer, Bob
Sounds like you have a legal case against the studio for stealing your ideas
When it comes to beyond the trailer I don't mind her but I do find her sometimes having strange views, like going along with the whole Mary sue nonsense (she says some things that are kind of anti feminism sometimes and is more don't put male audiences to far out of their comfort zone) and sometimes judges films based on the special effects in the trailer (cause of which she's already decided that the marvels will be a bad film, purely on that poimt) or just says that movies she admits she hasn't seen is bad (her last Oscars video had her completely trashing a film she said she hadn't bothered watching for her show about the Oscars, which is highly unprofessional).
She sometimes has some good content but also sometimes has some weird and bad takes. Really the only reason I watch her content is cause she does have some insiders and knows how to talk about movie ratings and box office numbers, unlike a lot of Internet movie channels (who call bombs successes or successful films bombs, cause they don't understand box office numbers, normallyan babies wanting something to be a success or failure and spinning it that way). Basically I watch her content more for the business side of things rather than her reviews or takes. Movie business wise she's good.
Honestly Reed smoking a pipe is gonna be a real easy touchstone for how the world has changed. Something he wants to do when he's stressed is now frowned upon. You can't smoke on TV, in restaurants, near kids....
Hey good on you for losing the weight! I always worried about you concerning that part! Keep it up (if needed :P)!
Just gonna say it Bob. If you dont play DnD you should! That Doom scene pitch is like a Dungeon Master audition reel
Yes please, more fan-fic suggestion-predictions! I actually revisited those two episodes about half a week ago, so colour me surprised that you rerelease them with commentary just a day or two later. :D
This is some of my favorite content you’ve ever put out. This and your earlier DC Universe ones were amazing.
I’d happily increase my Patreon support if it meant getting more of your takes and story ideas on these.
The only thing off about these predictions are the credit scenes. So far in the MCU, only 6 credit scenes didn't feature a character from earlier in the movie.
If you're wondering which 6 they are, it's Winter Soldier's Mid credit, Age Of Ultron, Infinity War, No Way Home's midcredit, and then depending on if you count the variants of Kang as a different person, both Quantumania credit scenes. If Kang counts as all his variants then the number is actually 4.
That's something I like about the MCU. They use the credit scenes to set up the future, but most of the time they do it with context from the film you just watched.
My prediction had been that the F4 movies would happen in the same alternate timeline that Steve Rogers created by going back to the 40s. He would eventually befriend them, and this would lead to Reed developing interdimensional travel tech that would give Steve the ability to cross back to his home dimension for that end of Endgame scene.
Mind you, this prediction was made before Loki defined itself as the point the Multiverse resurfaced.
Hey, awesome video as always! I also just have to say, thank you for putting that COVID psa thing on so many videos. It is starting to feel like an episode of the Twilight Zone out here, even people I had faith in to think of others are out there acting like this shit is over. My fiancee is a hospital nurse and is still seeing COVID filling hospital beds and killing people while other nurses in the same hospital are acting like it's over, even. And yet we get shit for wearing masks in enclosed public spaces! It just means a lot to see you putting the word out there, and it's refreshing to remember we aren’t the only ones who still care about immunocompromized humans ❤
Has it been 7 years?
I would love to see this Fantastic 4, just as much now as I was excited for it when this was first released.
I loved this one, definitely wouldn't mind seeing more like it.
Am I the only one hoping James Gunn makes the Tandy Computer Whiz Kids a key part of his DC film universe.
This was such a good episode(s). I've been watching you since... Close to the beginning honestly I forget lol.
also: Bob, I'd love to see more of this kinda thing.. DO NFL SUPER PRO!.. I don't even know who that is..
I jist heard in another video that Marvel is planning for Sue to be the main focus of their first _Fantastic Four_ film, wich may mean that her arc of going from thinking that the best she can do for the world is to fade away while his husband does the work to someone proactive that embraces all her facets will be front and center (unless the Higher Ups have a different plan, but that would be a shame, Bob's propossal intertwines so well the FF powers with their personalities and character developtment that I couldn't imagine anything better in that regard)
I really do dig the "How I'd Do" stuff.
I would love to see more. Heck, I still think of the Captain Planet write-up whenever I see anything about that franchise.
Same I hope bob brings it back
And his "X-Men in the MCU" treatment. It's about time Mister Sinister shows up on the big screen.
Damn!! Great job on the 'physical shape' thing! I've really tried to start focusing on that recently. I hope I come out half a good as you look!
The original 2 videos have always been among favourite. Any self satsifaction Bob feels over these is well earned. I want to watch this movie.
I just rewatched the original videos not long ago. Apparently when these first dropped I was in a good place emotionally and there was a comfort food aspect to them I wasn't expecting. I'm happy that I'm not the only one who had a strong, positive response to them.
I was hoping they follow a similar path to the one you outlined since the original episodes aired. And nice to see you in getting in a great shape.
I was showing some people your Fantastic Four pitch videos just a few days before this video went up!
Also this is one of my favorite ideas you went over for a how I'd dunnit
Gone back to it a few times over the last 6 years
Whatever Fantastic Four movie we get, I’m sure everything can agree on one thing. It won’t be nearly as bad as the 2015…. Whatever the hell that was. Never thought I’d be nostalgic for the 2000s FF adaptations, but there you go.
Grace Randolph pisses me off from time to time.
Sometimes she offers thought provoking and unique perspectives worth debating though.
Movie Math is always interesting to watch as well.
Yeah this was always one of your better ones.
Doing "The Incredibles but also Austin Powers" out of time approach with 60's retrofuturististic thunderbirds stuff, is a good and easy beat for the MCU.
"Directed by Federick Foswell did get a giggle out of me
So Bob, a Boston based critic pitching NFL SuperPro...
Tom Brady? In Iron Man armor?
Also I'd forgotten there was a time where people talked about AoS like it was something that mattered in the slightest 😂 different world now, literally
My favorite stuff of yours lately and I dug your Flash analysis.
28:30 -- Nah, you totally get credit for that one, too, and its okay that the movie in question was "just okay."
That wasn't half bad! I'd definitely go see Stretchy Guy and his Three Chums in the theater.
If they ever do Puppetmaster, it would be a missed opportunity not to reimagine his “acceptable” face as someone who is essentially cloning heroes (and later we find, villains) with technology, as an effort to replace them all with AI.
Sure, it’s a bit on the nose, but it’s super topical. The F4 have a set of powers that don’t exist in the MCU currently, so that’s why he’s interested. The F4 can beat him and his puppets because of the value and creativity of real people and real teams.
Yeah. “How to fix” series was some of my favorite content. Would love to see more.
I’ve honestly been kind of not excited about this film as of late. But if the film Marvel makes is even half of these ideas, I’m there opening night!
If they do go in the time travel from the past direction (or even if they don't but especially if they do), there is one thing I'd really want them to, though they probably won't: make Johnny gay. Even aside from getting more queer representation in the MCU (which we despatately need), it would give his character an interesting arc for the first movie. You would have someone who has had to stay in the closet his whole life because he came from an era where being queer was much, much more stigmatized and dangerous than it is today, to a world where it's far more accepted and he can finally be himself, though he would still be trepidatious about it at first. And of course we would be able to go into how the other three would deal with it. Personally, I see Sue being supportive of her brother, especially since she would have figured it out years ago, Ben wouldn't really understand it but would be alright with Johnny doing what makes him happy. And Reed, the most old fashioned one, would be the one to have a problem with it and think that it's wrong, and he would have to overcome that bigotry by the end of the movie. And like I said, I know they're probably not going to go in that direction, but it would be so awesome if they did. Plus, it would piss off the chuds, so that's always fun too.
The original two videos are my favorite of yours, so I’m glad to see them get popular.
PD I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who don’t like Grace Randolph.
I think a pitch on an X-Men D+ series or film series would be quite interesting. And we seem to have years until they get to it.
I'm just curious if they'll stick to the typical X-Men trapping at this point, or just say "fuck it" and start them on Krakoa. using that as the excuse to why X-Men just haven't been in the mainstream hero-beat for over a decade. They got themselves into hiding, erased their identities from the map, and have been living in relative peace. Only thing that fucks it up is, oh, I don't know, a big giant dude frozen in the ocean and their living Island just happens to get too close to it while it's being checked out by Captain America's new team or something.
I still very much agree that Doom needs to be saved for the sequel.
Part of me is wondering if The Wizard would be a suitable opponent. He might work as a negative version of Reed's futurism.
Bob, can we get that PSA as a separate video? I need to make links to it much too regularly.
I loved your pitch when it was first released, and I think that the only change it needs is what Reed is trying to do to undo things. He's not trying to recreate the experiment that gave them their powers. Instead he's trying to recreate Tony Stark's time travel tech to go back and fix not just his family, but everything he sees as "wrong" with the modern world. Thematically, the moment when he gives up on "fixing things" to go help his family in the now would be so much more powerful.
Honestly your version/setup is pretty dope
I heard your version of this idea first and it is still my favorite.
JUST saw a video on this rumor and immediately thought of Bob's prediction! fingers crossed, that's probably the best idea we're ever gonna get…
I want to see Doom kill Kang. Just let him hijack the next phase. Kang can come back later.
I think your how to fix terminator video just after this is what got me to first subscribe. 😂
The F4 fan fic episodes were some of my favorites back in the day. And I didn't know how much I missed that 7/4 In Bob We Trust theme music. 🤘
It's honestly too bad Steve Rogers was gone by the time they got around to FF. The Four reacting to Cap being back could have been pretty cute.
Probably wouldn't be a face to face on screen interaction, but I could see them doing a one-off gag when the FF are catching up on what happened since they were gone, and a shot of Captain America induces even more confusion about what year it is. Same vibe as the spider-man gag where Cap appearing in the gym class PSA video tape is bookended by "I'm pretty sure he's a criminal now"
5:06 Damn Bob, looking good there!
To answer your question, yes, I would be interested in more “how I’d do it” videos. I’m hoping your increased videos recently will translate to more income so you can make it viable.
Hey Bob. Long time viewer, seldom engager. I appreciate your views and perspective quite a lot. Any chance we can get your Pandemic PSA as a stand-alone video, maybe a short? I think it’s honestly a message that needs to be spread more. 7:25
Wow, 7 years? I remember watching those videos when they came out.
I enjoyed the videos and the general idea so i wouldn't mind seeing it in the real MCU.
Yeah, can't help noticing that little jab Bob took at Kang, at 15:25-15:44, which he would also criticize the Defenders for, and you can't really blame him for that. After all, regardless of just how much potential they're bringing MCU Kang to the table with, it really does seem like a lot of people just aren't all that interested in him...and it's not hard to see why. Because the simple fact of the matter is, unless we're talking Doctor Doom...or quite possibly, Galactus...anyone who tried to follow Thanos as the MCU's new Big Bad was ALWAYS going to be a step down on the podium, no matter HOW well he was written. Adding to that, the fact that Kang, historically, has always been a C-List villain, at best, REALLY doesn't help his case any, either. And Marvel's smart enough to know that forcing the issue, if no one really wants him there, is not a wise thing to do. So, with that in mind, it might make doing a Fantastic Four movie right even MORE important.
At least, that's just my thinking on it.
Agreed, and I would add that from a character perspective, he’s just not very interesting. He just wants to Conquer as his name implies. No nuance, no “maybe he has a point”. He can be acted as well as you like but that just isn’t very compelling.
@@JamesRoyceDawson Well,. again, "Loki" introduced him as having this whole boatload of potential, having him just bury the needle on the "creep-o-meter" and possibly utilizing the whole "time travel" conceit in ways we may not have seen employed before (at least by Kang himself). But at the end of the day, he's still just being played up as one of those "mad scientist" types, who's underappreciated by the rest of the world and overappreciated in his own mind. Hell, I remember Bob's review of "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania", and how he outlined that Scott was pretty much the only member of the Avengers that Kang would be able to manipulate the way he did, or be a challenge to defeat, because Steve would have been his usual righteuous, unflappable self, Kang's personality would have just bounced right off of Tony's whole "too cool for the room" routine, and Bruce and Thor would have just punched him really hard. So...yeah.
My favorite episodes of In Bob We Trust are the ones about how to fix upcoming movies, like a proposed TERMINATOR reboot that sounds better than the last 2 we had, and a 3rd "Escape From..." movie that basically answers the question "What If Snake Pliskin lived in the same world as Judge Dredd?" Check 'em out.
If Marvel's eyeballing Bb's pitch about how to put the F4 into the MCU, maybe they'll also look at his pitch about bringing in the X-Men. Don't let them steal it, Bob! CHARGE them for it!