OMG.....I watched this to see how to tame a percussive guit track that I recorded some time back.....and I hope that I can retain all this great info and get this thing mixed and loaded up here...thank you so much for this very well made down to earth no bull shit video
Hi Bob, thank you for this and other very informative videos you have posted. You were dealing with a flamenco guitar here but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on recording the classical guitar, especially in relation to mic placements, EQ, and whether to apply any compression at all. I would be grateful for any comments.
Great question. It really depends on the guitar, the player, the room acoustics and what mics are available. But in general terms I would be looking to record with some stereo micing technique. Spaced pair or Mid Side (M/S) technique. I did a video on MS here: ruclips.net/video/eok0uoo3MVY/видео.html My EQ moves would most likely be typical for that of acoustic guitar. High pass about 70hz and notch out boxyness around 350-500 hz as necessary. Mostly subtractive EQ. Compression would depend on the player. If used it would be light with no more than 2-3 db of gain reduction. I don't really have any hard and fast rules. I just try to capture the best sound and performance possible and then mixes process is easy. Hard to give advise or an opinion without taking a listen. Which I'll be happy to do. Thanks for the comment and the great question!
Hey Bob!!! Great video. I have a question. I have a very percusive way of playing and that makes my playing a headache. Iam very new within the sound world but could you give us some tips when EQ and compressing a slappy guitar playing style. By the way am talking about Nylon strings multiac
Norman, I'd have to hear your track to make specific recommendations but hear are some generalization: If some of the slappiness (is that a word?) is from the body of the guitar you could try high passing around 70-80Hz. Some of the percussiveness could be tamed with a compressor (fast attack time) to cut down on the transients. However, if you tame too much of this you can kill the performance. Your playing style may be what sets you apart from the crowd so you'll want to preserve as much as you can. Hope this helps. All the best to you and your music!!
just commented above....I don't play that way, but a friend of mine does.....I recorded him some time back and hope to be uploading that soon.....I'm curious about how I can get that to sound after seeing this video
Well more elevator music than flamenco (nice elevator music but still). Could be interesting with actual flamenco because it has a wider range of techniques and sounds
I’ve been trying to mix a song with VST piano and VST flamenco gtr and it just doesn’t sound right. I will try your tips and hope I can make it work. Thanks for this video!! Frustrated musician here.
Agree too much delay and panning. Still lots of helpful info here and it's a clear guide to get people started. Also think despite the advice using compression being good, it goes a bit overboard and actually much preferred the original guitar sound - with the natural tailing off of that chord but to be fair that's all down to personal taste. Good video, sound advice but in my opinion the techniques are a touch overcooked.
double the guitar and delay one by 15-20ms and its the oldest trick in the book to get wider sound...this guy pushes buttons because he has them...that guitar needed virtually nothing done to it...the trouble with todays music..button pushing mostly for the sake of it .....
Sorry to disappoint Dwayne but if you have been following my channel you’d know that I’m not a plugin guy or button pusher. This recording was not tracked by me. My first choice would have been to get the best recording possible with mic selection, placement and performance. That option was not available. So I decided to help him and many others with a basic understanding of some stock plugins. It’s not for everyone...
Thank you from a solo guitarist recording with logic x. Very illuminating!
You're welcome!
Great tutorial . Thanks
Thanks
This chord difference is amazing ..thanx for showing the process!
My pleasure 😊
nice lesson sir
Thanks and welcome!
This has been pretty awesome and helpful! I will try it later with a mix I am currently working on. THank you so much!
Great to hear!
The difference was really night & day... I shall try this technique for our (mostly) acoustic mixes !!
Like your technique in doubling the guitar.
Thanks! Have fun with this technique!!
Really informative and useful. Thanks a whole lot. As a flamenco guitarist I can appreciate this in my own production.
Glad you found this useful! Thank you!!
Excellent tutorial. Comprehensive, informative and musical. Good stuff. thanks
Thank you Ken! I really appreciate that great comment!!
Thanks Bob! Lot's of great information and techniques.
Thanks Marco for providing your tracks for the video. Glad this helped. All the best to you and your music!
Brilliant mixing tips Bob!
Thanks! 👍
OMG.....I watched this to see how to tame a percussive guit track that I recorded some time back.....and I hope that I can retain all this great info and get this thing mixed and loaded up here...thank you so much for this very well made down to earth no bull shit video
Thank you for the awesome comment!
nice! so rare to see people mix clsscl gtr so well)
Thanks for that comment!!
well, there's one riff if I could go a lifetime without hearing again
Great video and great tips!
Thanks so much!
This was incredibly well done!!
Thank you!
Hi Bob, thank you for this and other very informative videos you have posted. You were dealing with a flamenco guitar here but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on recording the classical guitar, especially in relation to mic placements, EQ, and whether to apply any compression at all. I would be grateful for any comments.
Great question. It really depends on the guitar, the player, the room acoustics and what mics are available. But in general terms I would be looking to record with some stereo micing technique. Spaced pair or Mid Side (M/S) technique. I did a video on MS here: ruclips.net/video/eok0uoo3MVY/видео.html
My EQ moves would most likely be typical for that of acoustic guitar. High pass about 70hz and notch out boxyness around 350-500 hz as necessary. Mostly subtractive EQ. Compression would depend on the player. If used it would be light with no more than 2-3 db of gain reduction. I don't really have any hard and fast rules. I just try to capture the best sound and performance possible and then mixes process is easy. Hard to give advise or an opinion without taking a listen. Which I'll be happy to do. Thanks for the comment and the great question!
Many thanks for your prompt response, Bob. Very useful.
Hey Bob!!! Great video. I have a question. I have a very percusive way of playing and that makes my playing a headache. Iam very new within the sound world but could you give us some tips when EQ and compressing a slappy guitar playing style. By the way am talking about Nylon strings multiac
Norman, I'd have to hear your track to make specific recommendations but hear are some generalization: If some of the slappiness (is that a word?) is from the body of the guitar you could try high passing around 70-80Hz. Some of the percussiveness could be tamed with a compressor (fast attack time) to cut down on the transients. However, if you tame too much of this you can kill the performance. Your playing style may be what sets you apart from the crowd so you'll want to preserve as much as you can. Hope this helps. All the best to you and your music!!
Bob Sell Thank you , Bob.
just commented above....I don't play that way, but a friend of mine does.....I recorded him some time back and hope to be uploading that soon.....I'm curious about how I can get that to sound after seeing this video
Well more elevator music than flamenco (nice elevator music but still). Could be interesting with actual flamenco because it has a wider range of techniques and sounds
This is wonderful!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you very much. Very helpful lesson.
Glad you found this helpful. Thank you!
This was amazing! You rock this thing, like, a lot! ;)
Thank you! Cheers!
As Always! Right on the money!
Thank you Monty!!
I’ve been trying to mix a song with VST piano and VST flamenco gtr and it just doesn’t sound right. I will try your tips and hope I can make it work. Thanks for this video!! Frustrated musician here.
If you post it, let me know. I'll be happy to take a listen and see if I can help. All the best!!
I've never uploaded to youtube. I will try and figure it out tonight so I can upload tomorrow. Thanks!!!
I've reworked the song and now the piano is off. Thanks for the willingness to help but this is too frustrating.
Ok Charles, good luck.
Flamenco + Bossa Nova 😍
very good. thx!
Thank you Ralph!
Hmmm....the guitar sounded ridiculous fully panned L and R...around 60-70 % l and r would have been ample and 18-20ms delay
Agree too much delay and panning. Still lots of helpful info here and it's a clear guide to get people started. Also think despite the advice using compression being good, it goes a bit overboard and actually much preferred the original guitar sound - with the natural tailing off of that chord but to be fair that's all down to personal taste. Good video, sound advice but in my opinion the techniques are a touch overcooked.
thank you
You're welcome!
i will record anew music and my first music and i like you listen ;)
Great! Please share!
double the guitar and delay one by 15-20ms and its the oldest trick in the book to get wider sound...this guy pushes buttons because he has them...that guitar needed virtually nothing done to it...the trouble with todays music..button pushing mostly for the sake of it .....
Sorry to disappoint Dwayne but if you have been following my channel you’d know that I’m not a plugin guy or button pusher. This recording was not tracked by me. My first choice would have been to get the best recording possible with mic selection, placement and performance. That option was not available. So I decided to help him and many others with a basic understanding of some stock plugins. It’s not for everyone...
guitar sound suck
Thank you.
You’re welcome