The accretion disk vs the size of the black hole itself is astounding. It really forces you to acknowledge the physical gravity of such a small object in order to have that big of a pull.
Just to wonder I calculated that 1 average man who weighs 72 kilos is 36 million times as heavy as an average mosquito (2 milligrams). This means if TON 618 is the average man then our sun is a half of 1/1000 of the mosquito
BIG difference between an accretion disc and a Lyman Alpha Blob. What is 330,000 LY across is the Blob, which is a sort of loosely defined nebulae most notable for its ability to reflect the visible light of the quasar. In other words, its what our telescopes see, and it actually outshines the galaxy its in. But as massive as it is, it does lie WITHIN a galaxy and in fact its schwarzchild radius, on a galactic scale, is pretty tiny.
Blows even more my mind when you find out that all viruses in earth side by side can form a line 500 times bigger than the milky way... according to Kursgesatz...
1300 AU is by definition 1300 times the distance between the Earth and the Sun, which is about 650 roundtrips of that distance. In other words, light would have to travel from the Sun to our planet and back 650 times to cover the same distance as the radius of that black holes schwarzschild radius. At 650 round trips of about 16 minutes each, we're looking at 10,400 minutes, or just over 7.2 days. Roughly a light week, which itself is roughly 2% of a lightyear. For the radius of that black hole. Absolutely incredible.
Apparently there are reports that the central black hole of the Phoenix Cluster is more massive than TON-618, placing it in a possible new category: Stupendously massive black hole.
@@celalboyraz No, because such massive black holes stop feeding relatively quickly. As they feed at enormous rate, their accretion disk produce intense radiations that push away most of the matter that would have been eaten by the black hole. This is why such quasars are very far away and we don't see any of them in the present universe, they are an early phase of the galactic evolution. We wont never know, but TON 618 and other quasars aren't probably that much bigger "today" than as we observe them now. Oh btw, TON 618 is around 10.4 billions ly from Earth, not 18.
@@ishanchaturvedi5674 Yes, what you’re naming are still considered units of matter; measurable units of mass that exist in our plane of reality. But a black hole is a black hole because it is infinitely dense (or at least small beyond human comprehension.) It does not violate the first law of thermodynamics, meaning technically speaking the matter inside a black hole _is_ still there, but it is literally crushed into an infinitely small point that kinda breaks our understanding of physics. However it is important to understand this is a theory. We can never actually verify what a black hole is or what’s happening to the matter beyond the event horizon, for obvious reasons.
@@-_deploy_- Pheonix A is HYPOTHETICALLY big than Ton 618 (there's still no accurate size or approximate size) Yet, Pheonix A is still no big as the Milky Way. Pheonix A's Lyman Alpha Bob or Radio Lobes are the bigger ones.
It’s not an accretion disk. The animation is extremely in accurate. There is a structure around ton-618 that is really that size but it is a “Lyman-alpha blob”
@@CooManTunes Heh r/iamverysmart .There is no need to try and feel superior in youtube comments. That is quite sad. Does that get you off, calling people morons based off a single comment? Get a life kid!
Althogh the picture makes it seem the black hole itself is relatively small in diameter. Excluded the accretion disk, the black hole by itself still has a diameter that is around 40 times the distance of the solar system, so yeah. Quite scary.
However, the singularity itself is still a miniscule point in space. The big black sphere we call the "black hole" is just the event horizon and the space it encompasses.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 That's true if Relativity is still the accurate model of that environment. And Relativity says it's not. Not to suggest what's inside the event horizon, but to drive the point home that we really don't know.
Innacurate. A black hole can’t get larger than a galaxy. Milky Way is supposed to be larger than ton 618. The Milky Way is thousands of light years. While ton618 ISNT even 0.5 light years. Edit: why is it chaos in the replys-
This is BS. The nebula around Ton 618 is not its accretion disk. It encompasses most of its host galaxy. Ton's accretion disk would barely be seen at the scale shown here.
The event horizon diameter (the most commonly referred to metric I've seen for black holes. Not the size of the nebula they are in. So that's confusing) of ton 618 is 390 billion kilometers. Massive for sure , but nowhere near the size of the Milky Way , 100,000 light years across (one light year being over 9 trillion kilometers!!). Cool video! A little confusing though.
@AngieLou- Stephenson will definitely become a black hole. I believe it's any star with a minimum mass of just 2 - 3 times that of our sun all become blackholes. Which also means that In the next 5 - 10 billion years there will probably be more black holes in the universe than stars. Because the vast majority of stars are atleast 2 + solar masses
Cant yall understand there's a difference between an accretion disk and the event horizon? Sure the black hole itself isnt anywhere as big as milky way but the accretion would be bigger than milky way due to ton 618's immense gravitational field.
That's like saying our Sun is as big as the solar system since it's gravitational pull is all the way to Pluto. What a stupid comment. And besides it's even not the disk size but the width of the nebula itself. This video itself is stupid in the first place
There is no black hole even comparable to the size of a galaxy, stop repeating this r3t4rded statement because nothing that has to do with a black hole approaches visibility level to a SMALL galaxy.
El agujero negro TON 618 realmente tiene unas 361 horas luz o 15 días luz de diámetro desde los bordes del horizonte de eventos. Su tamaño es de unas 2600 UA. o 390 mil millones de kilómetros.
Claro, pero la nebulosa y la galaxia que lo orbitan, es un Quasar, un tipo de galaxia muy activa, masiva y energética, literalmente estas ante lo mas cercano en nuestro universo a una deidad
@@loveatingout1992 Por el poder que posee y su influencia en las leyes cósmicas se podría personificar como deidad, una plausible, una que existe y crea y destruye mundos a voluntad
@@loveatingout1992 De hecho, con el avance tecnológico y futuristico de civilizaciones espaciales, que tengan el poder y la garra para colonizar una galaxia entera... Serían dioses, podrían cambiar la dirección del movimiento de la galaxia entera, viajar con ella como si fuera una nave espacial de proporciones que se nos escapan de nuestro entendimiento o comprensión
I scale objects back and forth in my mind up to the point before needing psychedelics then I'm like no thank you I've seen enough and my head hurts already
Very interesting. Wish you would keep the units of measurement the same for easier comparisons. Light years vs kilometers vs parsecs is hardly intuitive.
Straight face right now😐. I would like to know Lord Ganesha if you actually find those overused jokes funny still, or you just comment them for likes? Either way you should definitely be original and make up your own - it’s good for your mind to be creative sometimes.
Given the comparative masses it's more accurate so say that the galaxy's orbiting itself and that the supermassive black hole (the densest thing) just sank to the center.
Tik tok generation comment. I want to congratulate the captain of the spaceship that flew over there to record this fantastic video. I want to shake your hand when you get back.😮😮😮😮. 😂
It is not correct to claim that Ton 618 is larger than the Milky Way. Ton 618 is a supermassive black hole whose size is defined by its event horizon, which marks the point at which the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light. The size of the event horizon is directly proportional to the mass of the black hole and is calculated by the Schwarzschild radius. For Ton 618, the Schwarzschild radius is estimated to be about 1,100 astronomical units (AU), which is roughly 163 billion kilometers. In comparison, the diameter of the Milky Way is about 100,000 light-years or approximately 946,000,000,000,000 kilometers. However, it is correct that an enormous Lyman-alpha nebula surrounds Ton 618, with a diameter of at least 100 kiloparsecs (approximately 326,000 light-years). This nebula was discovered through observations of Lyman-alpha emissions around the supermassive black hole. It is important to note that the diameter of the nebula is not equivalent to the size of the black hole. The nebula is a product of the interaction of the black hole with its environment, while the size of the black hole is determined by its event horizon, as previously explained.
Remember, the disk around the black hole is what we see here, that is gas that surrounds the galaxy that the black hole is in. That disk diameter is about 3 times the diameter of our own galaxy. But then, the actual black hole is much smaller, at around 40 times the distance of Neptune to the Sun. Still extremely big, but not what many people think. And that is the diameter of the event horizon, which is the point light cannot scape, so basically is the diameter of the black hole outside limits. The actual black hole is the very same size as all others, an I finite small point called singularity that is just extremely heavy compared to other smaller black holes (heavy meaning the amount of mass it has compress inside that tiny point).
Pretty amazing that this object packs a significant percentage of the mass of our entire galaxy inside an event horizon which is roughly on the scale of a solar system in radius. What's maybe even more amazing is that the average density of it inside the event horizon is still less than that of water.
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We're viewing it when it would be a little surprising if any life could've yet arisen. But of course it's interesting to speculate about what it's done since then. Like how many other galaxies has the one shown in the video now merged with?
Let's try anyway! ^^ And what if black holes were the guarantors of the confinement of matter and gases? These 'super-attractors' prevent matter from dispersing into the void, allowing accumulated gases to form stars and dust to form planets... in other words, galaxies. Without them... no life! - This reasoning is valid for the supermassive black holes found at the center of galaxies.
I think of galaxies kind of like bioluminescent organisms. You start with a gas cloud - disturb it and some stars sparkle to brilliance. Not that the analogy goes any further than that, but visually I think it's a match.
Just realize that the milky way was once in the same configuration, a nebula surrounding a black hole. Ton 618 will also create it’s own galaxy. It’s like a god.
It already had by the time we can see it. What was shown in this video was a comparison of galaxy sizes. But in both the Milky Way and Ton 618, all that gas and dust in the galaxy absolutely dwarfs the central black holes' mass.
@@allwynmasc1 Yes, but quasars are just very active supermassive black holes - ones that are consuming matter so voraciously that they have accretion disks that outshine everything. It's not an origin, it's just a phase black holes go through, sometimes several times.
What the heck 18 billion Man it won't be 18 billion Cuz the universe is 13.8 billion year old and James Webb telescope also have only seen 13.2 billion light years away so If ton 618 was 18 billion light year away then we would not have discovered it
there is something that is the expansion of the universe, it makes light arrive faster or slower, what we are seeing from ton-618 is when it was closer and younger
@@dolevwajsbrot6356 the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light and and the observable universe that we see isn’t even 1% of the entire unicerse
@@johnnycripplestar5167 Yes. That detail could have been more prominently displayed, but it was in the fine print. And the nebula is the galaxy. That's really what galaxies are. They just have a dusting of really bright stars among all that gas and dust.
There are some speculative ideas about enormous early universe progenitor stars. Maybe giant ones that just immediately collapse into a black hole before the star gets going and blows away more than half of its mass like modern ones do. Or a massive one that has a supernova happen but is so huge that it just absorbs the shock and goes on with a growing black hole in its core. We don't think either of those things could happen with the modern cosmic environment, but they're speculative ideas about how these supermassives could have gotten started. If they started like regular modern stellar black holes then they would have had to have a ridiculous amount of mergers to get as big as we see them.
Can somebody reference a source stating the size of the accretion disk of TON 618? I was not able to find it and it is not in the description. The black hole itself has a Schwarzschild radius of about 20.60ly and so a diameter of about 41.20ly.
I'm not sure if phoenix A is the new biggest. It's alot closer so it has a few billion years over ton 618! Ton 618 is 18 billion miles from earth! They might be around the same size. We're seeing ton way further back in time. It's up in the air for now!
it is. this video is inaccurate. It’s not an accretion disk. The animation is extremely in accurate. There is a structure around ton-618 that is really that size but it is a “Lyman-alpha blob” @@alexplayspiano94
It's the galaxy in which Ton 618 sits. You would expect it to be bigger than the Milky Way. And in both cases, as big as they are, the central black holes are absolutely put to shame by the much larger mass of gas and dust around them.
No it's too small, black holes are big but galaxies are much much much bigger, Sagittarius A* our central super massive black hole has only 0.01% of the mass of our entire milky way. Remember galaxies don't orbit black holes like the solar system orbiting the sun but are glued together by the effects of dark matter
It’s gravitational field will just have the stars around it rotating, so it acts like an engine that keeps things orbiting. Once a star is too close in it’s radius, then there’s no escaping.
Not really. It just sits there and flings around nearby stuff, galaxies are not held up by a black hole. They're held up and spin because of "dark matter" it's a chain reaction of some gravity phenomena but we don't know what is this dark matter. Saw some theories that it might be some small type of black holes that are impossible to spot.
This is so bad that I need to comment, The TON 618 might be in huge Lyman Alpha nebula but it does not look anything like that. It isn't its accretion disk. It's just a gas cloud. A very large gas cloud, but still just a gas cloud. Secondly if a gas cloud would be that big and rotate at that speed it would move many many times faster than light.
@@tacoenjoyer8623 That thing does not look anything like it is in this video. Not even close. That's the problem. TON 618 is tiny very bright dot in a galaxy that is inside Lyman Alpha nebula. TON 618 is relatively insignificant in its shape. This video suggests that its gravity plays a significant role. It doesn't. This is very wrong.
This black jsut shows the nebula size in fact is very small but Phoenix A is growing now it’s about 101 billion solar masses it can twice the size of ton 618 in fact it’s bigger than some galaxies and it’s 10 percent of the milky ways size
Wow seems like accretion disks are more large than milky Way But the black hole including it's event horizon and singularity are very very tiny as compares to milky Way.
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people in the comments are confused because they don't read, the video shows the size of lyman alpha nebula orbiting ton 618 not the size of ton 618
Yes
Also shows the size of ton 618 is very tiny but supermassiv
@@lexavlogs7149 bruh TON's diameter can fit 11 solar systems to pluto's orbit
@@alexisbarde2406 actually 100 solar systems! and its still small compared to the milky way, thats what Lexa Vlogs meant.
@@lexavlogs7149 The black hole itself is 130 times wider than the largest star ever observed. I wouldn't call that tiny
The accretion disk vs the size of the black hole itself is astounding. It really forces you to acknowledge the physical gravity of such a small object in order to have that big of a pull.
Small object?
@@jnrhtb relative to the size of the accretion disk, it feels small! 😅 The black hole itself is like 10 times the size of our solar system, I believe.
@@mariacrane4511 The event horizon, though the crux of it is likely still a singularity.
Did you just call Ton 618 a small object. 💀
@@SuperYtc1 compared to the galaxy sized disk thing yes
Just to wonder I calculated that 1 average man who weighs 72 kilos is 36 million times as heavy as an average mosquito (2 milligrams). This means if TON 618 is the average man then our sun is a half of 1/1000 of the mosquito
In short. The equivalent comparison of both you and your mom. Gottem.
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@@wolkrking4640 It's not even that hard to do -_-
Nah that's cap but cool way to say it.
Imagine having a black hole with accretion disk bigger than the galaxy where you live! I feel useless
You are 'useful', only in a very very very small environment, you are in fact much more powerless than useless :P
To each their own destiny ;)
It not TON618 accretion disk it the Lyman nebula TON618 is just in the center of it
@@sobreaver that's a great comment just saying
Good for you, Im not
BIG difference between an accretion disc and a Lyman Alpha Blob. What is 330,000 LY across is the Blob, which is a sort of loosely defined nebulae most notable for its ability to reflect the visible light of the quasar. In other words, its what our telescopes see, and it actually outshines the galaxy its in. But as massive as it is, it does lie WITHIN a galaxy and in fact its schwarzchild radius, on a galactic scale, is pretty tiny.
It's remarkable how big space is. It always blows my mind
Blows even more my mind when you find out that all viruses in earth side by side can form a line 500 times bigger than the milky way... according to Kursgesatz...
It’s like too big sometimes imo so big I think we got something wrong !!!!! Lol 😂
To be honest space is not small or big cuz doesn’t have size literally everything we see her is 0% percent souu just imagine how crazy this is
It cant not blow your mind
yes & still some people says "I NEED SOME SPACE"
1300 AU is by definition 1300 times the distance between the Earth and the Sun, which is about 650 roundtrips of that distance. In other words, light would have to travel from the Sun to our planet and back 650 times to cover the same distance as the radius of that black holes schwarzschild radius.
At 650 round trips of about 16 minutes each, we're looking at 10,400 minutes, or just over 7.2 days. Roughly a light week, which itself is roughly 2% of a lightyear. For the radius of that black hole.
Absolutely incredible.
Apparently there are reports that the central black hole of the Phoenix Cluster is more massive than TON-618, placing it in a possible new category: Stupendously massive black hole.
I know what you’re trying to say, but I don’t understand what you’re using it by
@@celalboyraz No, because such massive black holes stop feeding relatively quickly. As they feed at enormous rate, their accretion disk produce intense radiations that push away most of the matter that would have been eaten by the black hole. This is why such quasars are very far away and we don't see any of them in the present universe, they are an early phase of the galactic evolution. We wont never know, but TON 618 and other quasars aren't probably that much bigger "today" than as we observe them now. Oh btw, TON 618 is around 10.4 billions ly from Earth, not 18.
we call those things the Joy Behars
Would you put your finger into said black hole?
Crazy how a Black hole becomes that heavy. 618 tons, that's wild.
Wonder how they weighed it.
they made a ultra massive weight scale 😌😁
@@smartupworld make sense 👍
bruh its the name.
the weight is prob like 50000000000 tons
@@raitamocherla4429 the sun is very massive, more than that amount of tons
And Ton 618 is more massive than the Sun
@@raitamocherla4429 sun weight is over x333.000 the earth,and ton 618 have mass over x66 billion sun
Maybe it was 10^40 tons
no one talking about how well animated this is lol. the zooming in and out is fluid and makes the size even more imaginable.
I agree man
What do you mean by "animated"???? Don't tell it's not real images!!!!
@@volneisilva1199 I can't tell if this is serious or not
except for the rotation of the accretion disk..... How many times is that disk ecceeding the speed of light?!?!
Funny thing is while this is one of the biggest things in the universe, a black hole itself is technically one of the smallest things in the universe
One of the smallest things in the universe would not be leptons and quarks but black holes?
@@ishanchaturvedi5674 Yes, what you’re naming are still considered units of matter; measurable units of mass that exist in our plane of reality. But a black hole is a black hole because it is infinitely dense (or at least small beyond human comprehension.) It does not violate the first law of thermodynamics, meaning technically speaking the matter inside a black hole _is_ still there, but it is literally crushed into an infinitely small point that kinda breaks our understanding of physics.
However it is important to understand this is a theory. We can never actually verify what a black hole is or what’s happening to the matter beyond the event horizon, for obvious reasons.
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@@ishanchaturvedi5674 that’s mister sir to you
Tell my wife that
Mily Way: I'm the biggest
TON 618: Hold my Lyman Alpha Blob
Phoenix A:
@@-_deploy_- Pheonix A is HYPOTHETICALLY big than Ton 618 (there's still no accurate size or approximate size) Yet, Pheonix A is still no big as the Milky Way. Pheonix A's Lyman Alpha Bob or Radio Lobes are the bigger ones.
I love how at the end its like "also there's an even bigger one"
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That is absolutely insane. I knew that the black hole was massive I didn’t realize that accretion disc was so mind boggling massive.
It’s not an accretion disk. The animation is extremely in accurate. There is a structure around ton-618 that is really that size but it is a “Lyman-alpha blob”
You don't have enough adjectives. Try again.
@@CooManTunes 0/10
@@drunkweebmarine9492 That's my indirect way of calling youamoron.
@@CooManTunes Heh r/iamverysmart .There is no need to try and feel superior in youtube comments. That is quite sad. Does that get you off, calling people morons based off a single comment? Get a life kid!
Althogh the picture makes it seem the black hole itself is relatively small in diameter. Excluded the accretion disk, the black hole by itself still has a diameter that is around 40 times the distance of the solar system, so yeah. Quite scary.
Yeah, a black hole with the mass of the sun would only be like 60km in diameter
However, the singularity itself is still a miniscule point in space. The big black sphere we call the "black hole" is just the event horizon and the space it encompasses.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 That's true if Relativity is still the accurate model of that environment. And Relativity says it's not.
Not to suggest what's inside the event horizon, but to drive the point home that we really don't know.
@@nikmrn That’s 6km not 60. Nuts eh.
Crazy, yeah@@66lesjo
That's awesome,
I didn't know there's a new black hole more bigger Thang Ton 618.
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I want to cry... this is fucking incredible.
We're all in this together bro...
Ton 618 is truly massive. But what you have to remember is we are judging it's scale from the perspective of someone who is really really small
In the video we're also just comparing the sizes of the two galaxies, not of any black holes within them.
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Innacurate. A black hole can’t get larger than a galaxy. Milky Way is supposed to be larger than ton 618. The Milky Way is thousands of light years. While ton618 ISNT even 0.5 light years.
Edit: why is it chaos in the replys-
No no it's the accretion disk stupid
Ton 618 is not bigger than milky way but the Lyman-alpha nebula surrounding it has the diameter of 100 kiloparsecs (320,000 light-years)
@@globaldata1 sometimes Google is wrong.
@@liammartinez5049 yeah and it's basically reliable source!!
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It blows my mind that we are not even a spec... makes you wonder how small or large things can really be. Infinite both ways?
"As Above, So Below"
Ton-618 has a diameter of 190 billion km (0,02light years)
The Milky Way has a diameter of 52 850 light years
No 350 billion
Milky way has a diameter of 100.005 light years*
He's showing also the nebula duhhh
@@KOT_STAR then what's the billions for?
U mean radius
The Ton 618 Ultramassive Black Hole is eventually going to turn that entire Nebula into a large Galaxy.
It already is in the view of it we have. But it's probably even bigger now.
It just fits in my phone 🐧
lmaooo
Oh no no no no no no! That’s just insane. Gargantuan doesn’t even begin to describe it.
This is BS. The nebula around Ton 618 is not its accretion disk. It encompasses most of its host galaxy. Ton's accretion disk would barely be seen at the scale shown here.
Thumbs up 👍 for background music.
Seeing things like this makes me think the geometry of space time is hyperbolic and the further away things are the bigger they appear.
Or the astronomers make a lot of errors (probable).
I was just about to ask what was the song but I found it in the description thank you
The event horizon diameter (the most commonly referred to metric I've seen for black holes. Not the size of the nebula they are in. So that's confusing) of ton 618 is 390 billion kilometers. Massive for sure , but nowhere near the size of the Milky Way , 100,000 light years across (one light year being over 9 trillion kilometers!!).
Cool video! A little confusing though.
I think what's intriguing is that the radius of Stephenson 218 is tens of millions miles more than our galaxy's central black hole, Sagittarius A.
Indeed. Sagittarius A* is pretty small compared to other superlatives. Andromeda's black hole is quite a bit bigger as well.
And when it collapse due to the lack of fuel Stephenson would probably go to a black hole
@AngieLou- Stephenson will definitely become a black hole. I believe it's any star with a minimum mass of just 2 - 3 times that of our sun all become blackholes. Which also means that In the next 5 - 10 billion years there will probably be more black holes in the universe than stars. Because the vast majority of stars are atleast 2 + solar masses
@@Exo_Tyrannus you forgot new stars are born too
@@angielou-5188stephenson is too small to be a super massive black hole.
Cant yall understand there's a difference between an accretion disk and the event horizon? Sure the black hole itself isnt anywhere as big as milky way but the accretion would be bigger than milky way due to ton 618's immense gravitational field.
It’s the nebula that is that big NOT the accretion disk itself.
That's like saying our Sun is as big as the solar system since it's gravitational pull is all the way to Pluto. What a stupid comment. And besides it's even not the disk size but the width of the nebula itself. This video itself is stupid in the first place
There is no black hole even comparable to the size of a galaxy, stop repeating this r3t4rded statement because nothing that has to do with a black hole approaches visibility level to a SMALL galaxy.
Ton 618 is immensely larger than the the black hole in the centre of our galaxy. What is so difficult to comprehend?
This is fake. Investigate by yourself. Even if you r rtrthen get chat gpt for do it for yourself. I'm reporting this video as false information.
That is where hungry ghosts probably live. Don't be too greedy guys or you might end up in that black hole orbit.
El agujero negro TON 618 realmente tiene unas 361 horas luz o 15 días luz de diámetro desde los bordes del horizonte de eventos. Su tamaño es de unas 2600 UA. o 390 mil millones de kilómetros.
Claro, pero la nebulosa y la galaxia que lo orbitan, es un Quasar, un tipo de galaxia muy activa, masiva y energética, literalmente estas ante lo mas cercano en nuestro universo a una deidad
@@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722 una deidad?
@@loveatingout1992
Por el poder que posee y su influencia en las leyes cósmicas se podría personificar como deidad, una plausible, una que existe y crea y destruye mundos a voluntad
@@gabrielalejandrodoldan4722 gracias por responder me parece increíble.
@@loveatingout1992
De hecho, con el avance tecnológico y futuristico de civilizaciones espaciales, que tengan el poder y la garra para colonizar una galaxia entera... Serían dioses, podrían cambiar la dirección del movimiento de la galaxia entera, viajar con ella como si fuera una nave espacial de proporciones que se nos escapan de nuestro entendimiento o comprensión
Bro props to the cameraman who filmed this they a real one on god
Lmao
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I scale objects back and forth in my mind up to the point before needing psychedelics then I'm like no thank you I've seen enough and my head hurts already
Amazing kolossall object 😲😲😲!!! Incredible!!!
Unimaginable. The Universe is a great place to live.
Very interesting. Wish you would keep the units of measurement the same for easier comparisons. Light years vs kilometers vs parsecs is hardly intuitive.
Yeah imagine to measure the earth diametre in parsecs. Like to measure a grain of sand in furlongs.
Great respect to the cameraman , who click all images into the space. And come back to the earth.
Is the new cam of i-phone 😂😂😂
same stupid joke every space video
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Straight face right now😐. I would like to know Lord Ganesha if you actually find those overused jokes funny still, or you just comment them for likes? Either way you should definitely be original and make up your own - it’s good for your mind to be creative sometimes.
@@bloodclaat they are original cry
Dude the black hole was like tiny but the stuff that was orbiting the black hole was insanely huge
Given the comparative masses it's more accurate so say that the galaxy's orbiting itself and that the supermassive black hole (the densest thing) just sank to the center.
Tik tok generation comment. I want to congratulate the captain of the spaceship that flew over there to record this fantastic video. I want to shake your hand when you get back.😮😮😮😮. 😂
It is not correct to claim that Ton 618 is larger than the Milky Way. Ton 618 is a supermassive black hole whose size is defined by its event horizon, which marks the point at which the escape velocity exceeds the speed of light. The size of the event horizon is directly proportional to the mass of the black hole and is calculated by the Schwarzschild radius.
For Ton 618, the Schwarzschild radius is estimated to be about 1,100 astronomical units (AU), which is roughly 163 billion kilometers. In comparison, the diameter of the Milky Way is about 100,000 light-years or approximately 946,000,000,000,000 kilometers.
However, it is correct that an enormous Lyman-alpha nebula surrounds Ton 618, with a diameter of at least 100 kiloparsecs (approximately 326,000 light-years). This nebula was discovered through observations of Lyman-alpha emissions around the supermassive black hole. It is important to note that the diameter of the nebula is not equivalent to the size of the black hole. The nebula is a product of the interaction of the black hole with its environment, while the size of the black hole is determined by its event horizon, as previously explained.
Remember, the disk around the black hole is what we see here, that is gas that surrounds the galaxy that the black hole is in. That disk diameter is about 3 times the diameter of our own galaxy. But then, the actual black hole is much smaller, at around 40 times the distance of Neptune to the Sun. Still extremely big, but not what many people think. And that is the diameter of the event horizon, which is the point light cannot scape, so basically is the diameter of the black hole outside limits. The actual black hole is the very same size as all others, an I finite small point called singularity that is just extremely heavy compared to other smaller black holes (heavy meaning the amount of mass it has compress inside that tiny point).
There's no way it's just us in the universe, man it's huge!
Definitley. Too bad we will never see them though.
This video really shows the edge that universe has got well done.
Phoenix A is the biggest black hole we've ever found. Ton 618 is 66 billion solar masses, and Phoenix A is a staggering 100 billion solar masses
That's not based on any direct measurements. It was only speculated.
Como saben q existe todo eso?? O sea q equipos usan o metodos?? Con tantas distancias??
OMG THE MUSIC IS AMAZING 😱😍😱😍😱😍😱😍😱😍😱😍
Pretty amazing that this object packs a significant percentage of the mass of our entire galaxy inside an event horizon which is roughly on the scale of a solar system in radius.
What's maybe even more amazing is that the average density of it inside the event horizon is still less than that of water.
That’s massive but Steven Seagals ego is a million billion times bigger.
Lol 😂 😂
Peak loneliness, so bright but dark inside 😂
Please more please about cosmos and astronomy. Like all about space. All subscriptions about Space.
Why does Mankind feel alone? Trillions of Galaxies, endless unknowns! Limited thought perhaps? The loss of Visionaries?
It's like being in Thick Woods above a Mountain being able to see every tree in the forest, but yet still nothing at all.
@@edge1247 Interesting! Or MANkind which isn't kind, not WOMANkind which is, believes other Civilizations have interests in similar Technology! Man just achieved his greatest Technological advance (cell phone), which connects the World of Humanity! Or Man believes the Mask would prevent the World Covid spread, while forgetting his own Doctors specialty of EARS, Nose, and Throat (the connectivity between)! Ironic isn't it, Man here believes all here, are in regards to Man and Humanity! That Engineered pathogen Covid, target specific (Cognitive area Brain damage), what it does, and why America (gun lovers Paradise) is on the Abyss to its End from within itself! Appearances are deceiving, and always have been! America (Man), still doesn't understand why September 11, 2001, was target specific (3 aspests)! The Primate mind has severe limitations, dear Dr.!
Phoenix A es más grande incluso que Ton 618 por cierto 😁
Pero ta bien, gracias por la animación !
Think about how considering its power it may have actually swallowed up planets with life.
True
Damn
We're viewing it when it would be a little surprising if any life could've yet arisen. But of course it's interesting to speculate about what it's done since then. Like how many other galaxies has the one shown in the video now merged with?
Imagine traveling through space and this music starts to play. Just put your seat and tray table in the upright and lock position.
And then............Put your head between your legs! its over baby!
I'm not surprised the Milky Way ain't that big. I've seen several of them at the grocery store.
Black holes are the most terrifying thing in all of known existence and you can’t change my mind.
Actually the GOP in the States is more frightening...
Let's try anyway! ^^ And what if black holes were the guarantors of the confinement of matter and gases? These 'super-attractors' prevent matter from dispersing into the void, allowing accumulated gases to form stars and dust to form planets... in other words, galaxies. Without them... no life! - This reasoning is valid for the supermassive black holes found at the center of galaxies.
The cameraman : 💀🗿
I comfort myself by trusting a scientist missed a decimal point somewhere while calculating
When I think of stars, nebulae, and galaxies, I feel my worries relieved.
Yea, our problems are so negligibly small
I think of galaxies kind of like bioluminescent organisms. You start with a gas cloud - disturb it and some stars sparkle to brilliance. Not that the analogy goes any further than that, but visually I think it's a match.
This monster created his own galaxy☠️
I have never felt so insignificant 😂
Thanks for the cameraman who showed the real image of our Milky way. 😂
Our galaxy is just an another one of those stars from other beings' night skies.
Just realize that the milky way was once in the same configuration, a nebula surrounding a black hole. Ton 618 will also create it’s own galaxy. It’s like a god.
It already had by the time we can see it. What was shown in this video was a comparison of galaxy sizes. But in both the Milky Way and Ton 618, all that gas and dust in the galaxy absolutely dwarfs the central black holes' mass.
once upon a time ton 618 was a star, just imagine how big this star was...💀💀💀
Sure but i dont think it colided with just another supermasive black hole
It is thought that there were stars in the early Universe that were so massive that they had black holes inside them that eventually ate them.
Isn't it a quasar
Ah black hole stars. Maybe maybe...
@@allwynmasc1 Yes, but quasars are just very active supermassive black holes - ones that are consuming matter so voraciously that they have accretion disks that outshine everything. It's not an origin, it's just a phase black holes go through, sometimes several times.
Excellent comparison.
fun fact: ton 618 that we see is not his real form because what we seeing its just 18 billion years ago of ton 618
But the universe is 13.7 billion...(for now), and his age according to wiki is 10.8 billion.
What the heck 18 billion
Man it won't be 18 billion
Cuz the universe is 13.8 billion year old and James Webb telescope also have only seen 13.2 billion light years away so
If ton 618 was 18 billion light year away then we would not have discovered it
there is something that is the expansion of the universe, it makes light arrive faster or slower, what we are seeing from ton-618 is when it was closer and younger
@@dolevwajsbrot6356 the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light and and the observable universe that we see isn’t even 1% of the entire unicerse
No it's 10.4 billion years
The Milky Way is 105k light years and the biggest black hole is like is the smallest appeared to the milky way
Who else found the background music better than the video itself?
This is how glory really looks like, the TON618!
2 main problems: 1) no size or mass specifications are given 2) ton 618’s accretion disk isn’t that large
It's the nebula around it from the host galaxy, right?
@@johnnycripplestar5167 Yes. That detail could have been more prominently displayed, but it was in the fine print. And the nebula is the galaxy. That's really what galaxies are. They just have a dusting of really bright stars among all that gas and dust.
This music is national anthem of Size comparison video ❤😊
So, how big was the star from which this black hole popped out?
Black holes can grow and merge.
So the star may have been average.
Considering the mass of the black hole it may have formed from a massive gas cloud collapsing in the early universe, or a quasi-star
There are some speculative ideas about enormous early universe progenitor stars. Maybe giant ones that just immediately collapse into a black hole before the star gets going and blows away more than half of its mass like modern ones do. Or a massive one that has a supernova happen but is so huge that it just absorbs the shock and goes on with a growing black hole in its core.
We don't think either of those things could happen with the modern cosmic environment, but they're speculative ideas about how these supermassives could have gotten started. If they started like regular modern stellar black holes then they would have had to have a ridiculous amount of mergers to get as big as we see them.
Ton618: I'm the Biggest and Baddest object in the universe.
Pheonix A joins the chat.
Ton628: oh shit.
Can somebody reference a source stating the size of the accretion disk of TON 618? I was not able to find it and it is not in the description. The black hole itself has a Schwarzschild radius of about 20.60ly and so a diameter of about 41.20ly.
I think the number is taken from the Lyman-alpha blob nebula and then incorrectly applied onto the accretion disc. So its not this large.
just wrong. The Milky way is 100,000 light years in diameter while TON 618 is only 0.04 light years in diameter.
I'm not sure if phoenix A is the new biggest. It's alot closer so it has a few billion years over ton 618! Ton 618 is 18 billion miles from earth! They might be around the same size. We're seeing ton way further back in time. It's up in the air for now!
We all not sure the Size of TON today...
If it was 18 billion miles we would be dead it's 10.8 billion light years away
I think tons bigger than phoenix A. If u take the distance and years of growth into consideration
Excellent content
Glad you enjoyed it.
Fantastic and frightful!
I thought the accretion disc would be so much more smaller but it wasn’t
كم احببت ان اكون رساما لارسم اشياء غريبة و مثيرة مثل التي رسمها هذا الشخص
the cameraman did a wonderful job!
no cameraman, its computer graphics ffs
@@kirkhunter146 of course it is, it was just a joke.
Dumb joke
Should also mention the tangential velocity of the mass orbiting Ton 618, which I believe is measured in units of the fraction of the speed of light.
can't imagine the blackhole is bigger than the Galaxy. it's impossible.
Just because you can’t imagine it doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
it is. this video is inaccurate. It’s not an accretion disk. The animation is extremely in accurate. There is a structure around ton-618 that is really that size but it is a “Lyman-alpha blob”
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It's the galaxy in which Ton 618 sits. You would expect it to be bigger than the Milky Way. And in both cases, as big as they are, the central black holes are absolutely put to shame by the much larger mass of gas and dust around them.
So, everything surrounding It is simply another galaxy, right?
I wonder if the the blackhole in the centre of the milky way will eventually eat all the stars and planets
Unfortunately, saggitarius A has too little mass and size to reach from the core to the galaxy's edge,it only pulls matter in its reach.
Black holes will do, but not a single black hole
No it's too small, black holes are big but galaxies are much much much bigger, Sagittarius A* our central super massive black hole has only 0.01% of the mass of our entire milky way. Remember galaxies don't orbit black holes like the solar system orbiting the sun but are glued together by the effects of dark matter
It’s gravitational field will just have the stars around it rotating, so it acts like an engine that keeps things orbiting. Once a star is too close in it’s radius, then there’s no escaping.
Not really.
It just sits there and flings around nearby stuff, galaxies are not held up by a black hole. They're held up and spin because of "dark matter" it's a chain reaction of some gravity phenomena but we don't know what is this dark matter. Saw some theories that it might be some small type of black holes that are impossible to spot.
earth: omg so bigger
Jupiter: yeah so big im scare😮
Sun: that okay the galaxy protects u
Stephenson: what
Milky way: im ur mother i can defeat that
This is so bad that I need to comment, The TON 618 might be in huge Lyman Alpha nebula but it does not look anything like that. It isn't its accretion disk. It's just a gas cloud. A very large gas cloud, but still just a gas cloud. Secondly if a gas cloud would be that big and rotate at that speed it would move many many times faster than light.
You’re seriously angry about the rotation accuracy? That was never a goal.
@@tacoenjoyer8623 That thing does not look anything like it is in this video. Not even close. That's the problem. TON 618 is tiny very bright dot in a galaxy that is inside Lyman Alpha nebula. TON 618 is relatively insignificant in its shape. This video suggests that its gravity plays a significant role. It doesn't. This is very wrong.
Ton 618 is bigger then milky way and IT could consume it is something i cant believe
I need to ask brain cox if thats true
The music tho...
So, compared to the universe, how big is phoenix-A?
Black hole itself is small. Quite the gas cloud around it though to be galaxy sized
The black hole is bigger than our solar system
The gas cloud shown in the video is the galaxy surrounding it. Their depiction of it spinning like an accretion disk was very misleading.
I'm sure something weird must be going on in those huge black holes. Why else would it be so dark? They don't want anyone to look inside... 🖤😎👍
AFTER 6×10^99 YEARS THE TON 618 BLACK HOLES TURN INTO IRON STAR
No? It just radiate away
New discoveries will either amaze you or scare you. 😅
Crazy thing is that there is now an even bigger black hole than TON-618
This black jsut shows the nebula size in fact is very small but Phoenix A is growing now it’s about 101 billion solar masses it can twice the size of ton 618 in fact it’s bigger than some galaxies and it’s 10 percent of the milky ways size
nope, Phoenix A is a theory
@@darkbruh887 Ahhh no, it's real how'd you figure it was a theory?
Wow seems like accretion disks are more large than milky Way
But the black hole including it's event horizon and singularity are very very tiny as compares to milky Way.
It must be it's gravity whose making this accretion disks.
So ,new idiom
Never judge a black hole with its inner part and size.