Firefly E0S1 : Full Break Build MOC 12 - The Perfect DPS! - Honkai Star Rail
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- Note that this is V1, FF will most likely get buffed
Firefly Guide : • Video
⏺SAVE 20% On StellarJades! Safe & Convenient! All you need is UID & Server!
Visit Lootbar: lootbar.gg/top-up/honkai-star...
Use my link^ to support the channel
Lootbar's Official Discord (For Quarries & Issues): / discord
00:00 Build
00:33 Battle
#firefly #showcase #aniimation #jade 
Игры
⏺SAVE 20% On StellarJades! Safe & Convenient! All you need is UID & Server!
Visit Lootbar: lootbar.gg/top-up/honkai-star-rail?HSRGuides
Misha S1 : ruclips.net/video/m5FeiHnmsH0/видео.html
Aeon S5 : ruclips.net/video/-Uyc10CVvY0/видео.html
If the break meta centered around hmc, then any break dps can powercreep firefly sooner or later because the main source for dealing break damage comes from super break buff from hmc in firefly case, but its too early to judge, big changes comes when beta test reach v3, and then we can gain the conclusion about it
Boothil for hunt break, firefly for destruction break, erudition ??? For break ? Nah, its not gonna powercreep
@@harfi212read firefly kit first before you comment here, even the owner of this video also know the problem with firefly in v1
@@reza6428 yeah i read it. So whos gonna powercreep her ?
guys! it's still v1, honestly promising, even at v1 she's able to 1 cycle clear which is the same as acheron with her S1, other break dps units which aren't boothill are going to take longer cycles, FF is good & honestly a good pull due to fire implant, where other break dps units falls off a ton without bosses that have the same element . i believe everyone loves FF & wants her to perform better than acheron
yeah but superbreak depends on break effect and firefly can not only hit 3 people at once with this she also advances herself and the break effect she deals is rely nice and not to mention very singuel character on her team is ez to build and the only 5 star is ruan mei the mc is free and galager is a 4 star but i do agree that she relies to much on mc and should be buffed.
Maybe something like increase crit dmg and crit rate based on your break efect that way she would be abel to do very good dmg even if she doesn't break or even without mc and the dmg with break and mc would increase for a bit( maybe have break be abel to crit... can breaks crit normally?) Actually just have both, i mean snake ipc lady can have 150 free crit dmg
Fuck the damage. Me and my homie don't care about the damage. Someone should complain about having no entrance transformation animation, and that person is going to be me.
That's.... a good point.
She supposed to have HENSHIN! animation
@@Far-Reezthe problem is where or how? They can re make all of her animations
me too bro I want to see it I want the character I want to enjoy using her I care about animations and I don't freaking care if just work with hmc and I think they can do a entrance transformation
@@aWalkingL82 When you start the battle she could have a small cutscene transforming, and maybe a settings or button to skip if you don't want to
That's literally my only issue with her. The overworld animation with the AoE jump feels kinda lame, no cool sound effect in combat, no transformation. Complaining about a transformation "being too long" is invalid, can just make it very short. Like, it can never get as awful as HI3 Herrscher of Thunder that is locked in Ult cutscene animations constantly ahah
I know it'd be way too much, but I'd love to hear a tiny, very short bit of the Sam / Nevermore theme as well when she's transforming. Music and sound is so damn important. Sadly, Firefly feels kinda lackluster: Robin has better sound design and music, Acheron has absurdly badass animations. Will still pull her but feels like they played it very save and made it look almost lame. ;w;
i hope that this new thing of making a unit that needs other limited units to function is just a coincidence. id hate to see this kind of stuff in the future
yup thats true personally i dislike it too but the synergy is perfect & firefly is able to make use of HMC Fully due to weakness implant which is better than boothill as he doesn't need HMC & he can't swap targets till their dead but bronya e1 to go 3 turns in 1 cycle since he has his on break mulitpliers. though firefly is the cheapest to build with the highest return espically for new players, where you only need to pull for ruan mei compared to like acheron even though she broken u need gnsw at minimum plus 2 debuffers & a really good sustain unit with trend for late game which is better only for older players. firefly is still on the same tier as acheron even if she's slightly weaker
It is getting tough. What other universal Harmony units can they make that won't just be buff on skill and bigger buff on ult? Or universal dps that isn't just a remix of other characters? They've touched a lot, and now they've made one that's break focused. The next limited 5 star harmony might be an alternate version of HMC.
That's probably why they're doing it. It's better than whenever Genshin makes a flop unit with no explanation or property that makes them good (pre dendro Kuki, Dehya and now Sigewinne).
Wdym limited HMC is free and everyone gets it always
Literally most 5 star dps characters need another 5 star to work well, Jingliu/Bronya and Daniel/Sparkle to name the most obvious ones
@@owoflux6025the problem is you need to complete pen only quest for HMC. People are saying it’s unfair for new players.
Her damage with this team is good, the problem is you don’t have RM it feels so bad you need all those buffs and if you don’t want to use HMC there is no other option atm, her damage is terrible without those 2. But also Hoyo can’t just slap Boothill traces onto her to make more damage while in break, that would power creep him, they have to be different and Boothil being Hunt has to do more st damage, and firefly do more damage overall when there’s 3 units but less than Boothill to just 1, and rework her so RM and HMC are less necessary. That’s it.
They can give the same traces but lower damage since she is aoe, I mean she really needs some of that to not need ruan mei and hmc, or at least not both at the same time, same as boothill right now, she would use the crits passive better than boothill, or if she had the little extra break damage without hmc, like for example it feels she should be compatible with robin/bronya/sparkle and else but she just can't right now, and yeah I don't have ruan mei even if they rerun together is asking for too much for people who can't afford it
If you dont have ruan mei just use Luka who uses break and bleed. Simple
Asta also works, basically fire type and her ult action forwards
This just in, a break dps doesn't perform well without two break-based buffers
@@plebbutter3811like compaining acheron doesnt do well when u have no debuffers in your team..
Finding some way to incorporate super break into Firefly’s base kit OR include break damage in her normal unbroken hits would be nice. Maybe kinda like a Robin ult damage thing? Adds on a portion of break damage every time Firefly hits to make her not so reliant on HMC and Ruan Mei
the hmc did almost as much damage as her this fight lmao..
No bruh hmc did way more dmg than her lmao. A enhanced skill did like 20k while hmc did the 200k💀
mc is only able to do a lot of break dmg because firefly breaks the enemies so quickly, with her all the enemies are always broken which is what allows super break dmg to be spammed in the first place
Also no they’re not? I’m not sure what you think almost means but they aren’t even doing half as much dmg as her lmao
@@thecrazyremy i understand that but currently firefly is relying on supports with the Super break mechanic. What’s unfortunate is that she doesn’t have personal dmg herself she acts as an break enabler which is kinda lame.
@@sep3395 you mean the attack from before the enemy was broken? You realize harmony mc would've done 5k at best against a non broken enemy right?
Wow I thought that Firefly was gonna be another dps destruction character. I didnt expect her character's abilities scale towards break effect 😮
Thank you for mentioning she kinda dependent to HMC and RM.
For people who saids it is not a problem, just remember if she got buff/adjustment so she at least dependent to only one of them, you guys wil also get the benefited, so stop saying it is not a problem.
Even i who already have RM, i really want that little freedom to mix and match her to other than those two.
She's subject to change, wait for V3 beta she will probably get changed into more reliable form
@@lakytheshiba123 yup i hope and optimitstic she will get a good adjustment.
But in her condition rn, i guess letting go her dependent to HMC is making her too busted, just imagine her given a stand alone break damage without super break dependent, she could be paired with bronya and rm, and become too busted.
Cause honestly, outside of the damage, her playstyle is already too good, hyperspeed slash dps, that is too broken, imagine she do not have the glued to superbreak restriction, she will pass the top tier damage dps, and it is not good for the game.
@@deedee3355 she doesn't need buffs, she should stay BE dps, but they should give her something like Boothill has, also I don't mind free character with free 6 eidolons being her best support. Imagine she will do her own "special break" on weakness broken enemies AND the superbreak from TB
@@lakytheshiba123 i never says she need buff, i said she need adjusment.
Giving her build in break damage like boothill is making her too busted.
Thats why letting her dependent to HMC go away is kinda risky it could makes other dps get powercrept instantly.
Meanwhile, you dont mind about her best support is HMC, imo HMC is not her best support RM is. Although about HMC, she is borderline do not works without HMC. It gives the same analogy as HMC is not supporting Firefly, HMC makes Firefly playable, cause without HMC Firefly will be very bad.
Also just to makes sure, i agree she is very strong, her kit makes her very2 strong dps. But those limitation will be a let down for many, dont just see from our own perspective, just remember if she get a good adjustment, other will also be benefited including us who really likes her.
@@deedee3355 Thats a great way of explaining it. Just every dps has their best op support so it doesnt mean that shes bad without ruan mei. She wouldn´t be the only character that would be nearly unplayable without special supports (like Kafka without DoT). There is also chance they will add more supports that can enable some form of superbreak, we dont know. Ive seen showcase where they used Asta instead of Ruan mei and her dmg wasnt much lower.
I like that HSR makes the kit of the MC Relevant and having a good free character is awesome, and idk how people always find ways to complain, especially when you only need to literally build the free HTB for firefly to be more viable simple as fuck. ruan mei is bonus if you have her which i don't but its ok.
Also people not having the htb yet for being new to the game, can literally just progress the game its not like they'll be able to build a BE meta team given they are literally "Beginners". Random bullshit go team will probably work just fine on the early stages.
Ruan mei isn't a bonus, right now there isn't much replacements, even if you play asta you will notice a lot the difference but I hope they will make her better eventually, she should be like boothill in that he only needs ruan mei or hmc not both at the same time being mandatory, I don't have ruan mei either and even if they rerun together thats bad
About the beginner part, firefly being how she is now she would probably struggle a lot in early game, doing paper damage without hmc or ruan mei
@@asoretif you talk that ruan mei is a bonus and threw asta to that discussion its also applicable to all the party that want to use ruan mei
the core strategy is still the same but mei is so broken 90% of meta comp want her in their party
@@piusbutarbutar1782 But other teams wouldn't die or suffer that much without her
@asoret Exactly. Thats why imma use my ruan mei for this break team
Man till this day i still regret skipping ruan mei i hope she will get a rerun soon since the break meta seem so good tbh only need break effect and spd and u set to deal big dmg with hmc.
It's Hoyoverse and they want to sell you the character, Ruan Mei's rerun probably will come along side Firefly's banner or the next one. Also it's possible that they release soon a "Ruan Mei" type character but only for Super BE. Like a premium version of HMC.
@@nightcorewb4949they want to drain my f2p jades 🥹
@@nightcorewb4949 Yes they probably run together, and about the hmc powercreep sure but wont be here for a long time
If you don't have ruan mei and not got the harmonry trailblazer yet use a character that make the break effect of the enemy to make it low and I don't even have a ruan mei I still getting her she will be my main dmg dealer of my team right now I still use my Serval
Damn. Firefly and Clorinde beta tests are very "joyfull"...
Always with the characters I want, hoyo baka
Real? I want both Firefly AND Clorinde, but it seems they both aren't really good for now. I hope that changes.
clorinde is okay though, i already thought she wouldn't be better than top dps' anyways. she's a solid dps with awesome animations
Clorinde is perfectly fine rn. She doesn't rely on any character and she's just as strong as she needs to be. Plus she looks super fun
Atleast clorinde is not on the same level of hu tao in terms of trashness
Hi, @2:02, you could have probably skilled with Gallagher then used Ultimate+basic attack to break the fat freeze guy so he couldn't summon his minions (and he would be dead before he could recover from break).
This would help in two ways as you could trigger superbreak (even if you decide to focus Cocolia) with FF's next turn and to not have to waste blast damage with said minions.
Just a small optimization this rotation could have implemented, it wouldn't make for a better cycle clear but it could have helped with a more cynematic finish (as you probably wouldn't have needed to use HMC's final attack).
It was still an excellent showcase, though. Thank you for this.
thanks :), apperciate the info
People forgetting the thing that brk dmg was the first ever concept introduced in this game and if the dps roam around that then I don't think its even a bad thing cuz honestly the sweet dmg is even more then crit value
Problem is without super break it's not very consistent dmg source.
Personally I wish they would buff it in some way or atleast increase the base delay when enemies are broken.
@@Kspice9000 i don't think that will be am issue tho cuz you won't be using hmc with many characters and ofc notany characters would be there with highest break dmg so its fine and for speed i thimk bronya and sparkle or tingyun helps if you really wanna 0 cycle stuff
0:58 wasted his ult. Should've used it after his turn.
alot of leakers don't read or play the game at same level as end game users so its pretty normal they make missplays, you wanna see the showcase not the ''gameplay'' , this one put firefly in her strongest build can have a roughly idea
yes unsatisfactory
Yeah I was pretty disappointed when he didn't break cocolia with FF instead using Gallagher.
I've been hearing people talk about firefly is it a relic set? Sorry I just came back to the game I haven't played since the second world got released
firefly is the robot unit, she will be out next month with her relic & planar sets. good time to come back into the game as last year u literally had to almost pull for all dps unit for element coverage unless u have silverwolf but now 2.0 DPS Unit have element implant or acheron who doesn't even care about the enemies weakness type
@@HSRGuides sweet at the moment I'm saving for boothill and I forgot the other character but I'm following a recommendation from discord. At the moment Im rocking the characters I had when I started: himeko, welt, silver Wolf, Kafka, Dr ratio, and e6 hook
@@peterle8482 boothill is really good! his best team is bronya e1 at hyperspd with boothill having 1 spd faster for 3 turns in 1 cycle + RM or RM + HTB. would say that boothill teamates are slightly easier to build as they don't require much effort. where firely teamates must have really good relics. honestly just really depends on who u like more.
@@HSRGuides interesting also thanks for the reply :D ill probably end up pulling for boothill he seems pretty sick
so if im only using hmc as support break for firefly because i dont have ruan mei then can u clear MoC with atleast 3 cycles ?
without ruan mei not possible within 3 cycles, unless the current moc stage really favours firefly a ton
Use welt as a substitute
There will be future team mates for firefly, just like Kafka when she was first released.
Tbh Kafka+Sampo+Asta was a solid comp already
But now she has more options like guinaifen, black swan, ruan mei etc...
@@MrGoodra17 I still use it because I don't have BS and RM
It will, but not soon. HoYo will focus to create Acheron team first😂
@@Far-Reez More like chugging more into Robin FuA centric first.If Uba leaks is true the next DPS after this Feixio will be Break+FuA hybrid
Can i use Robin instead of Ruan Mei? I just finish building my harmony MC and Robin, my Gallagher is E2 with really high break effect, but i dont have Ruan Mei
u can but you will take way longer cycles honestly, firefly is insanely restrictive just like acheron. For firefly, HMC & RM is best, gallgher is SSS Tier with firefly. unless they make some changes but there's slim chances of that happening after all firefly is a break focused dps
@@HSRGuides I think a good way to buff her ia giving her crit rate/crit damage when attacking a broken enemy, similar to what Ratio has when attacking a debuff enemy
@@VitorSantos-jh9vc I tried all the supports but honestly really not that good which is a huge let down. same with bronya or sparkle even though FF was taking a few extra turns her she took 3 cycles just for the 1st wave. it's like 2*10(atks)=20 DMG
but with rm & htb it's like 10*5(atks)=50DMG
@@HSRGuides At least we know she will have some changes before launch, either they makes her worth the restrictions like Acheron, or remove the restrictions and make her good with other suports, i hope for some less restrictions since as stands, she is way more restricted than Acheron
@@VitorSantos-jh9vc yeah there are literally only 2 units which works for her. hopefully she gets better v2 is coming out soon
Ok, have to admit in this showcase. She seems very strong.
only with S1 it takes 1 cycle clear & all units are at SSS Tier Relics, if HMC has lower BE or SPD may take 2 cycles instead. FF deinfetly still needs a buff but i can see potential
Boothill can easily hit 700k against aventurine and he did majority of the damage
Hi, may I know the reason you say firefly is perfect? Bcs the damage is lower than boothil if break
Looks lower but firefly is able to attack as much as boothill with bronya. in most moc runs firefly will do 2 cycle clears, same as acheron. where as boothill only excels if there aren't multiplie enemies which could take longer cycle clears.
Ruan m3i is gonna be best support for firefly. But im saving for e2s1 ruan mei😢😢😢😢
Does RM really be a good support for her aside from speed? I don't know if FF break efficiency and RM buff stacks
shes the best, though asta would prob be the next best option but u can expect up to 2 or 3 cycle longer clears. unless for some moc runs which favours firefly it may only take 1 cycle shorter. I believe both FF Break Efficency & RM Break Efficency increases it's DPS due to HMC
She absolutely contributes to the team, in fact she is pretty much mendatory right now, 50% break efficiency equals to 50% more super break damage.
@@nat6lbg440+ the res pen, speed and DMG buffs
@@nat6lbg440 more like 100% more
She is a bit restrictive but some of the best units in the game are the same way like Dang Heng IL and acheron worse if u don't have her E2 so i think ppl are doing too much honestly. Shes a break effect unit so ofcourse her most optimal and dependable supports are gonna be break supports. I think ppl just hating on firefly just to be different. Her dmg to me is ok needs to be buffed a bit. Im not expecting them to make her stronger than Acheron a literal Emanator cause that wouldn't make any sense to me.
I wonder if glamoth planar set work well for her since she could easily reach 160 speed, would you mind test it out?
it's trash, any extra dmg/atk/crit will not increase her dps. also tried a 70%/180% CD Build with 200% be and it was dealing no dmg with all supports, 50k enhanced on a single target
@@HSRGuides I see, thanks
Is Gallaghar the best sustain for Firefly? I mean I get it: He is Break/Fire but e.g. Luocha has better (passive) healing and is more SP positive.
Who is best in slot?
When your team is focused around breaking the enemy and keeping them down, raw sustain power becomes less necessary.
@@1987jjl Hmmm....ok. Could work. So I have to build Gallaghar...after Bronya & Harmony MC...a lot of work...
yes gallagher is best for FF, u deal so much break and delay you don't need a better sustain unit. though good to have your HMC & RM at 4k hp minimum to prevent any 1 shots
@@HSRGuides Ok. Thx. More work for me though building Gallaghar 😉 Just kidding. It is fine.
They literally have similar healing and gallagher field is better u can literally get a full heal from his field at e6 id say he better than luocha sustain teams give break buffs and he is sp postive so what ur point
I might pull ruan mei's lightcone because I only have 1 s3 memories of the past, ig meshing cogs will be fine on her for now but the signature will proably be better overall
sig lc on rm doesn't really do much, not recommended unless you have 2 full teams built already & you don't want to pull for any other units, personally im just going to slap s2 memories on HTB & S1 Copy on RM. but if u want, slapping RM S1 on HTB is better.
@@HSRGuides I already have e2s1 Acheron/Pela/Aventurine/Sparkle team and Kafka/Black Swan/Robin/Huo Huo team and they clear everything just fine, so after getting Firefly's E1 and signature lc I will mostly be looking for upgrades to these three teams
@@kacper0563 nice
😮 I can't leave the pathfinder with more than 205 breaking effect, how the hell can you leave it with more than 300 😮😢
god tier substat with s5 memories is possible but honestly 250% be is enough. most impt is your firefly relics
Is there an alternative to Ruan Mei? Missed her banner when she first dropped ;(
no better off saving your jades but ruan mei is coming out with firefly
@HSRGuides oh bet, got like 200 pulls anyway so I should get both with extra jade now and then
@@bencampsall8563 yes both units are really important plus its the cheapest & equal to acheron's best setup for performance now :) just make sure to dont pull for eidolons or lightcones their really not needed
I think most people are outraged by the connection of Firefly to the HMC, because they just wanted to get the classic DPS of the fire element on their account. Hoyo forces him to assemble a team with a new archetype. And not everyone wanted to play from break, it’s like Hoyo released only Kafka to close the electro element. In addition, there is a fear that when the meta changes, Firefly may become like Blade or Topaz.
I think people wouldn't complain that much if ruan mei wasn't a must too, boothill is fine only using hmc or ruan mei, can leave space for other normal buffers or debuffer
Man i hope v3 does big stuff to her, cuz i love her animations way too much but she's very much carried by super break rn. 30k outside of break is very sad to see. Im still gonna pull tho
Yo anyone know what support I can run besides Ruan Mei
So is it possible to build firefly with 161 - 174 speed?
yes due to ruan mei spd buff & new planar 6% spd bonus, but u have no room for any spare stats
yes firefly gets 50 speed by herself so in reality you need 131, which is free if speed boots and her sets
I think instead of power creeping FF they should make FF right under the peak of a Break DPS. Maybe save the top spot for someone who is as strong as Acheron. Both sides of the “FF is too weak” argument need to agree this is still v1 and that you can argue about it but and the majority of the first version of each new character is shit. Yes she needs to be changed slightly imo and I think FF should be able to reproc SB or on activation of enhanced chill set toughness bar to 1 and rebreak. I would like FF to be the Kafka of break
At least you can prefarm for crit Firelfy build. Guess I'll gonna try both
idk but why dont u just use those trailblazer powers for building your unbuilt character? or maxing ur supports, crit on FF is a waste why'd even bother, or just try the private server yourself so u dont have to waste ur resources farming for crit FF lmao
@@rakkyo1786 They could buff crit firefly but yeah, anyways shouldn't prefarm relic sets because the new is going to be better anyways, better max hmc, gallagher and else, or start prefarming ascension and traces materials
Wow. I need HTB to make her work? What if i dont have her? :(
Saving for Boothill now ig.
HTB? HTB is free tho
HTB is free, tho
I mean, can’t the same argument be made against DHIL needing SP positive units to do anything? I really don’t see the problem..?
@@RebL3333DHIL works great alone, Jingliu works great alone, Acheron works great alone, but FF ? 80% of her damage are from HMC
@@aenium Weren’t people complaining that “Acheron needs E2 or her Nihility restriction screws her entire kit” or something? Besides, Firefly is only in week 1 of beta, changes to her kit are inevitable.
Crying in no ruan mei because of a long break
It's not related to the vid, well it kinda is because he's in the vid, but, is it worth to raise Gallagher? I kinda liked his character in the story and it seems like he's pretty good with Firefly so I'm somewhat interested in raising him
He is good for break team comps, i think firefly's best teams will want him as the sustainer
yeah gallgher is also pretty much must unless a future sustain unit comes out with def sherd then replacing it would be fine though prefered to have fire element
@@HSRGuides imagine if jiaoqiu heals enough, but think they said already it will be low ones unless eidolons improves it
@@asoret yup, unclear now though new unit leak just out physical preservation which reduce defense, might be better unsure now
Can she run in e0s0 ( maybe misha lc, cuz I can't pull for lcs now)
misha lc is great, 2nd best option
@@HSRGuides mm ok, but what abt 4* free lc in forgotten hall(one with Sam on it)? But I'm more into using misha's lc
@@kaifXD better use misha one, she needs break stats, saw others using destruction one from simulated universe
She is too perfect ❤
I wish there were means to add an additional dmg dealer like Himeko, in stead of HTB...
FF & HTB Synergy is cool, but I don't want FF to be stuck with 2 specific characters all the time - I want to like to switch into other characters too - without having to lose tremendous reduction in gameplay efficiency...
prob till a new unit is out in future
I am confused about her kit can anyone like explain? Cuz her scaling is high (i mean atk scalling) but here she was played only for break. I want to know like is she flexible to be used as crit dps or break dps?
tried crit build with genius, with hyper carry supports or break supports but its trash, 50k on enhanced skill state on a single target
@@HSRGuides so it is better to play super break with HMC? And i have been seeing hyperbreak, is that just hypercarry but using break damage?
@@dash_cube1302 Exactly but things could change in next versions, hope she is able to be hybrid, or that she can do more break damage by herself
Total damage is 350k, of which 300k is the Trailblazerr's super break, The perfect Hamony
Huh, do u read and use HMC ?
The hell are you talking about? HMC only enables the super break. When FF attacks all of that damage is her own.
Khoan, "bắp cải"... người việt à ? Vcl đấy, tầm này ai cũng có thể có main hoà hợp e5 trải nghiệm rồi mà phát ngôn thế thì bạn theo phe nhà sử học hư cấu à.
@@TerraTheWise u remove super break and firefly does nothing
@@trashercraft2636 Yes which still means HMC is the enabler. Your comment insinuated that when FF attacks part of that damage belongs to HMC which is wrong.
Classic rule: new characters > old characters, also people have been hyping Firefly/SAM for months. So there is no way Hoyo won't buff her damage. Chillax. For people who don't have Ruan Mei: come on now, we know Ruan Mei is SS tier regardless of whether Firefly/SAM exist, you will definitely pull for her anyway..
That chibi in the thumbnail is so cute, can I have the source pls?
t.me/addstickers/hotaru_from_liuxingdenghui
Well...... That just somehow lowered my motivation to pull for her....😥
But its still too early to judge, I hope there be changes
damn what she just 1 cycle cleared it's pretty good
@@HSRGuides No no dont get me wrong but personally I prefer a hybrid kit instead😅
@@terminatorx9824 haha i see, don't worry about it, trust me i also wanted her to be hybrid but after trying out full break with sufficent spd, it's actually way more satisfying
Even though she can't nuke huge damage in one hit like Acheron, the combined damage spread can still reach nearly 1 million. And you must remember that she must always be the one to break the enemy's main stamina bar, her sp is not allowed, do you understand? At least in this v1
You can't ask her to not have any buffs or debuffs and still do 1 million damage, that's absurd.
@@terminatorx9824So you’d rather her be twice as annoying to build? What a weird take.
remember once upon time people said that jingliu is trash before she even came out
damn, kind of 1 problem now is that she isn't trash
how do ppl get early acces to these characters
discord.gg/2jPkR3wM huge pain in the ass, as it's pretty complicated
@@HSRGuides can u make a tutorial im too stupid for these stuff
TL;DR: I just want to say I am happy about your thumbnail since I read some doomposting stuff about her which almost made me stop saving for her.
Some context:
Lost my last 50/50, so I am essentially guaranteed to get her if I don't roll on anyone else until. So I wanted to start prefarming for her and while looking up the mats she needs, I accidentally read a comment about how bad she is and how she has no hope of improvement (and wants Robin?). Since I try to stay as spoilerfree as possible (i.e. don't watch animations before release, rarely read concrete skill description before release, don't watch livestreams), this comment was my only information about Firefly. So I thought about rolling for Robin instead and just hoping for Firefly (which should be less than 50% chance of getting her with my current (nonexisting) savings). But with your thumbnail (didn't watch thid video to, again, avoid spoilers), I have decided to just save!
LMAO, u stay true to your creed! as long as u have ruan mei & htb i don't see a reason to not pull for firefly if u like her. defiently has room for improvement all units get buffed from their beta kit
lol be strong, most people are complaining so they can see the problem and make her better, im going to get her no matter what, but hope she becomes more flexible and else, as I don't have ruan mei and would be bad forcing people to get her, and feel so weak or near unplayable without her
Is she single target?
Mmm what if she's at 1000BE.
RM is kazuha HsR.
What about FF?
If Acheron is Raiden shogun of HSR.
Mmmm
AOE
How to get 380 break effect ?
good relics lmao
firefly has free 60% be from atk conversion, rm 20% hmc 50% & sig lc 60. rope 64.8. relic bonus 16. trace 37.3. 71.9% from substat
Mostly prepare to have hmc forever with her
any1 know how to get access to these test servers?
These are private servers. You have to install a bunch of different programs and set it up yourself.
discord.gg/yNnDHXmV it's pretty hard to do it and may take up to days if you don't know what to do
@@HSRGuides And even if you have it its more unconfortable that it seems no? having to code to get relics battles and else
@@asoret yes though u can just request for the script, chat is pretty alive unless you have an issue
@@HSRGuides I see, I think I saw a discord link in some comment but can't find it
can you swap her relic to harmony mc i thing she can do more single target damage than firefly😶
Will perform worse as firefly is doing more atks, though hmc relics is a must to pioritise as she's your 2nd dps unit
@@HSRGuides my mc deals like 200k+ super break with the watch maker set soo with the new def ignore set it might reach around 300k superbreak on a single broken target. I know firefly will do better coz of more attacks but the fact the damage is similar is kinda crazy firefly really need buff they tried to make a break unit with more attack frequency to make it different from boothil who is a crit breaker it's beta 1 soo i expect a lot of buffs
@@HSRGuidescan you try a pela team for me though idk no body using her super break scales high with def reduction.
Very good performance right there. I understand Firefly is restricted to mostly Hmc and Ruan Mei but at the same time, it also shows the lack of break effect supports we have. And Firefly is by far the best break focused dps to take huge advantage of hmc's super break.
What they intended her to be, I see her kit fine even though it feels restrictive in team settings. It may look like that she herself may not be doing much but you can say the same with other dps. With the right pair of good supports for our dps, they enable our dps to do a lot of damage.
She needa another buffer that doesn't exist now. While people want her to be on par with Acheron NOW😂
At the same time, we also got leak that Acheron will get her first best buffer. So yeah, she will also got some variation but definitely, it's not so soon.
@@Far-Reez thats fine but apart from hmc and ruan mei she should be able to slot any of the previous buffers, I mean not everyone have ruan mei and even if they run them together at the same time it will be too expensive for many
Remember this is v1
got to trust
Any slot for ruan . Like asta or sparkle…..
will take longer cycles
Not much for now, but they should buff her to make that possible, like she should be good with robin too but not right now
I hope I'm speaking for everyone here, but Firefly needs to be not stronger than Acheron, but instead balanced. The reason being too much powercreep would just make people stick with these 2 (Acheron and Firefly IF Firefly is made stronger or as strong as Acheron) for the rest of the game's content. Other dps characters would have no value whatsoever compared to them, and would in turn make sales for upcoming dps drop by a large margin. Hoyoverse ain't taking a risk like that, and would most likely not make Firefly stronger or as strong as Acheron
PS: I don't own Acheron, and I see how broken she is that she is a MUST pull for me in the future as I am struggling with my dps, namely Seele, Jingliu, Blade, and Lunae clear MOC because their dmg has been powercrept so much by Acheron that its not ever fair.
their equal rn in terms of cycle clears for E0, if she gets buffed she will be slightly better than acheron or equal in most senarios
Ive seen a lot of comments that say that firefly is bad because she requires htb to deal damage. And I understand why people complain. But in my opinion if she would be like boothill who can activate break damage without htb, then firefly will simply break the game with her damage. And then why do you need a boothill who is single target, if firefly is much better than him? I think this is need to be special only for boothill. Now they have the same dmg if firefly is in a team with htb. Im not the meta slave, but I think that people want firefly to be like acheron
exactly! even though firefly needs hmc she has an almost equal amount or slightly higher DPS with hmc being able to deal massive amts of dmg even at single target dmg. where boot hill seriously needs bronya if not it would take years to do break
nuclear thumbnail.
In case some people don't know, the formula for Super Break includes how much the attacking unit has Break Effect, and other factors such as Res Penetration/Reduction, toughness dmg, and def% debuffs. So, to respond to those who criticize Firefly's kiy and saying anybody can outdmg her in her own game, that's a big fat no.
Most of the units so far are built to do dmg by boosting their atks with buffs and crits. So unless you find a unit who can shred toughness like paper, have massive break effect, and can move fast af, then no, you can't outdmg Firefly.
boothill- but yes the main problem is that she needs both hmc which is fine being f2p and ruan mei
@@asoret she is fine and can do massive dmg with HMC alone, and thankfully Ruan Mei rerun banner is coming up soon. What I don't understand is why many force her into a crit build when she's literally meant for Break Effect. It's really difficult balancing the right crit ratio within spending over thousands of TP, when you can just get something with Break Effect regardless of what substats came along with it.
Besides, Break Meta's just starting so I'm sure more units in this type of gameplay will come soon.
@@AlwaysGong True but if you compare boothill final version with current firefly if she stay like this (she wont), then most people would have it too easy to choose apart from feelings, yes she should only build break and be fine, but she can't apply break damage by herself so people try to build crit to cope about not needing hmc, which doesn't work either, and if you go full break without ruan mei she gets much slower, while boothill can pick one of those and add bronya/sparkle/robin or whoever, having more future and possible units for the team.
And you are right, also saw they will release a new debuffer that probably powercreeps all previous ones, firefly should work with him too, but its unclear right now with how unflexible she is, hoping for the next versions
idk why people hating ff cuz she need hmc. I mean whats wrong using them both?
She needs ruan mei as well and not everyone have her
She needs ruan mei too, in the perfect world like boothill she should only need one of the 2 having hmc for free version and ruan mei for improved invested one, leaving the other space for bronya/sparkle/robin/tingyun or any debuffer like pela to be more flexible, want to see the next version
People complaining that they have to use HMC for firefly. Lol. At least MC is useable here than the other game they made. I like the idea that people can pull for a cool mecha character and you only need a default character to make her work. Not only that, it is easier to farm break effect than crit rate and crit dmg stats. Unless game is trolling people who already pull for firefly and give them tons of unneeded dps stats(like me with Watch Maker set) 😂😂
True but they also forcing you to have ruan mei right now
@@asoret I don’t see the problem with that. People are forced to use Bronya with Jingliu, People are forced to use one nihility character for Acheron. It is the same thing.
@@jerviealbay2991 Bronya is arguably free plus you could play tingyun pela or other things and she would be fine, acheron has many nihility like pela and gui if going cheap, right now firefly seems only has one team, not everyone has Ruan mei and if they rerun together then good luck for some people getting both
Why does hmc do more damage than firefly??? 😭
What? HMC is doing at most 115K. FF in her Ult is doing 300k.
@@nightcorewb4949 Look at 1:21 . Where all the damage comes from? It's superbreak, so if you remove HMC with insane break stats as well as RM that boosts dmg further she will hit like a fly literaly
@@nightcorewb4949he is talking about the super break damage which accounts for 80-90% of ffs damage.
Are you stupid? Hmc is the best support for firefly.
@@RellekEarth Yeah, and the super break damage is based off of FIREFLY's break effect and is also increased by Firefly's trace which allows her to ignore 40% of the targets defense when doing break damage. HMC's ult is what allows the super break, but all the damage from it is coming from Firefly.
HMC is so BUSTED 🔥
So if I understand this corectly... she doesn't need crit, or attack or hp... all she need is ungodly amoumt of breack effect... cool😊
3.2 ATK is a must, dont need higher
Okay, that won't be hard, right?
...right...😅
Also, is the new free MoC light cone okay for her? I don't have Mishas 4 star light cone...
Don't know if it matters or not, I also have the SU 5 star light cone, should I level that up as well? It's only S1 tho, the MoC light cone is S2.
Also sorry for bothering you alot.
No HMC , no Ruan Mei ll how???
where perfect 🙄 ?????
The damage numbers are not bad, its just that her damage comes from HMC. Before people start saying 'oh but HMC is free and it is fine', no it is not. FF should be a complete character by herself and not be useful only when there is ONE specific teammate even comparing to acheron who can use any two nihility and perform fine.
It is a free character whose abilities are essential for break teams, stop crying that much. At the beginning dot teams were mid because their supports were Luka and sampo you didn't have more options, would you say in that situation that Kafka was a bad character? Give here some time to obtain different supports and stop arguing.
@@dualdo_ Who said Kafka was ever bad, besides Kafka is an enabler, she detonates other DoTs, thats her kit. FF is a dps not an enabler. Even considering that, the main focus of the team should be FF and not HMC. At this point HMC is considered the main DPS with FF there to break weakness and enable super break. No part of her kit says she has to have someone applying super break for her to do dmg, it should be honestly be a part of her kit. Also you say that HMC is essential for break teams but it is not? Boothill is perfectly fine without HMC.
its like saying hu tao should not need hydro . Mann get the fccck off . Dont complain like child she is balanced and cool .
HMC did almost more damage than FF, she clearly needs BIG BUFF@@RJun2204
So dhil does fine if u don't have sp postive team didn't think so he relies on his supports to do dmg aswell he can't function on his own
who can i replace ruan mei with?
Pela/asta/sw/bronya/sparkle/robin but u can expect 2-3 cycles longer clears
@@HSRGuides thank you!
she needs a rework or buff or shes going to be dehya
What she absolutely destroyed this MoC. Dehya is just poor design and horrible scaling which ff doesn't have. People complaining about her reliance on HMC as if other units DON'T struggle with that too
@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968 there is no char that compares to reliance like harmony trailblazer like fire fly. Just Bae design. buff or rework the unit.
Buff ? Are you stupid ? She needs nerf
@@imnotreanalbertospynotatal6968 No other character forces you to have 2 specific units with no replacements, but its fine its the first version
"the perfect dps" ICANT
What's the issue
@@yamirellik5720needs hmc to function consistently
@@jcrey-zg7fv and the issues with that is?
@@yamirellik5720she is very restricted in using? The fact that you must build both firefly and hmc for her to work is concerning. For example jing liu and dhil can be played without their recommended supports and they will not end up dealing trash damage
People are mad bc firefly has more downsides then positives
Lowest hp in the game, this one is debatable bc dmg reduction, in the future it could be a good or bad thing
but here a scenario : consume 50% life to gain 50%energy, if at 50% hp you go to 1hp so it doesn't matter dmg reduction one hit to death, need to basic in this situation losing the turn to gain energy
Low spd, yes she gains alot of spd in her ult state but you need to take the turn and after it ends you need 1-2 turns to ult again
Acheron needs to pair with 2 nihilits/(1 if e2) to reach her max potential, right now we have 8 other Nihilitys so there is no problem with team comps.
They are doing the same with firefly, needs harmony mc to be viable because outside super break she deals 4*dps
(if you build break, game wants you to go for a break build btw) you are locked with 1 character and that's bad game design( yes its a free character but you have to build another character to use your 5* is plain dumb )
but but but ur comparing with acheron damage no never said iam comparing core mechanics from kit
Boothil has a mini super break/detonation on his kit firefly don't for some reason
also i think hoyo did a oopsie and inverted firefly and boothill passive traces cuz it makes more sense boothill a single target dps gain armor ignore scaling with break and firefly an aoe dps gain crit rate crit dmg scaling with break
Nice HMC showcase
I mean you are right, but the htb will not be able to do this much dmg alone, firefly have a lot of break effect and toughness break (witch increase super break) and can implant fire weakness, I don't think any character will be as good as firefly with htb
I think it speaks more of compatibility rather than reliance that FF can deal with toughness bars HMC can’t on their own, not everything is going to have imaginary weakness.
I mean with fire implant you can have gallagher and maybe other fire characters in the future help her, but yeah she should be more flexible
Hoyoverse please buff my cinnemon roll!!
She doesn’t need to be Acheron’s lvl, as long as she can work properly by herself... maybe SBE on her E2 instead of this extra turn, and extraturn on E4-6?
Imagine a releasing a new 5-star that requires 2 specific Harmony supports and E2S1 to perform properly LMAOO
She is way better than Midcheron
I really don’t see why it’s a problem that she needs HMC, literally a completely free unit to get and E6
The problem is more that she also needs ruan mei, there isn't a good replacement right now
broo i dont even have ruan mai but imma pull for her lol
make sure to get rm, as she's coming out at the same time as FF
@@HSRGuides dam it, this game gonna make me suffer more lol, either imma p2w to get ruan mei or not lol,b ut im guaranteed on firefly so nice
@@strawnium6366 nice, honestly i do think it's good for f2p players, lowest investment 5 star unit to be at her best setup
Easy people, we know she needs to be heavily optimized. She supposed to be pretty strong with herself, and being powerful with HMC.
Not doing "meh" damage without HMC and do strong with it😊
Glad to see someone getting the point, also she shouldn't need to have ruan mei to do fine, but I trust they will do some good changes
The character is too strong . it is necessary to nerf.
Firefly is a little too reliant on harmony trailblazer. Its not bad that tb is meta now but why couldnt firefly have super break built into her ult or something. Imagine double super break would be great
sadly i don't think that's gonna happen if it does boothill will perform way worser
@@HSRGuides maybe instead of that only 1 super break can be on field. That was firefly would still be able to do it herself. And trailblazer would be a requirement but still a good teammate to be able to sub DPS
Is there any F2P showcase of firefly? Every video i found is with the characters with their signature LC.
If there is pls put a link😊
will take 1 cycle longer, will upload a vid
AEON S5 : ruclips.net/video/-Uyc10CVvY0/видео.html
Misha S1 :
ruclips.net/video/m5FeiHnmsH0/видео.html
I love her so much. I’m getting RM on her rerun and then Firefly :)
I hope Ruan Mei doesn't rerun with Firefly cause then I'd have to swipe💀
@@Lumii_15 They are probably just going to do that lol also for new boothill players if they don't have her
@@Lumii_15 I believe they will, we’re fucked lmaooo
can you test how much viable she is with other harmony/nihility units?
She might have had the survivability, the built-in enemy debuffs, and the turn manipulation which fitting of Destruction but she lacks a bit of her standalone damage. Because even with fully built Firefly, w/o HMC her DPS more or less similar to Blade with half-ass relics.
Although I don't see anything wrong with this, it is just that firefly's kit seems a bit lacking. Especially in the animation department,
Should they need to increase her BE efficiency a little bit more? so that she can reliably break Elite enemies a little bit more frequently.
Should they add RES-PEN somewhere in her kit? so that she can still dish out a little bit more DPS even to enemies outside of toughness broken state.
Should they include a damaging attack whenever she transforms to her ultimate? They should!
not viable at all, only team which works decently well is asta/pela or sw but their dps loss is like ard 40%+. almost 2 cycles longer. tried running a hybrid or pure crit build with firefly but for single target bosses with 70%cr & 180% Cd + sparkle & robin max buff it only hits for 50K. yeah honestly she seriously needs a buff & it will most propably be coming, without sig lc it actutally has 1 cycle longer clear & for 2 cycle clears u need SSS Tier Relics on all your units except ruan mei is fine to cheap out a little
@@HSRGuidestry her with welt ur be surprised he works with her bounce skill and delay ennmies from moving meaning more uptime on super break meaning more dmg
Hi, I have a question for those claiming HMC is doing the damage. Why isn't the Super Break text that appears on the screen in yellow color? When Robin procs her extra damage it's white, when Tingyun does the same thing it's purple. I would suppose the game interprets this red text as FF's damage.
HMC enables the Super Break text. Without it that text wouldn't even appear.
Basically super break dmg depending on the attacking character's break effect as well, not just hmc. So it's their own dmg that have been multipliered
@@minhcowdut-sh-5808 true, its just a shame that the damage that firefly is giving to that is 20-30k or something like that, didn't happen the same with boothill he can be good without hmc, and even better with him
4 legendary kmm characters with crits make a puk-puk. Meanwhile, the firefly breaks the enemies' face. Another broken character . Acheron 2.0. and why did I spin the fua team..... Senks mihoyo
FF is so bad it's insane 💀💀
requires 3 specific characters and her sig LC to perform somewhat decent LMAO
Same could be said for dhil
@@UltimatePollo3495The problem with Firefly is that she needs these 2 specific Harmony characters to even deal damage comparable to the other Destruction units. While you can slap JL and DHIL with Asta and Pela and they’re still gonna do good damage.
@@yanuwwuuWell, because there are only two BE support right now.
@@yanuwwuu wrong u can replace ruin mai with welt and save his ult for super break to make it longer so firefly deals nore dmg
@@UltimatePollo3495just not true
ppl who are going to build her crit stats, are trash ppl
mihoyo design a break specific char
the ppl: lets build her crit!!!
She wants Break yet people want to give her CRIT
@@Lumii_15no they want a build like xueyi who needs break and crit
the crit brainrot is too high in hoyo gacha communities. This is the reason why crit kafka even exists in the first place.
@@kreftl idk why people mad over this. its their build and ur not forced to use it
It seems like people don't understand how break damage works.
So short run through: Break damage is only affected by BE and nothing else. Any kind of dmg bonus doesn't work (which is why half of Ruan Mei's kit basically goes to waste because the 70% dmg bonus does nothing). The only way to increase break/Superbreak damage CURRENTLY is to:
1. Reduce/ignore DEF
2. Increase the enemy dmg taken
3. Break effect and efficiency
4. Reduce enemy resistance
So buffs don't affect break damage AT ALL. With that out of the way, what does FF have in her kit: 40% def ignore, 12% dmg increase of broken targets, fire implant/fire res shred, 50% break efficiency, and a shitload of BE.
Hold up, but that's EVERYTHING that could possibly increase her break damage.
Now, of course, there is always the possibility that they will add a new buff that increases break dmg on a new harmony, or a new nihility character that shreds def and makes enemies take increased break dmg (like Gallagher with besotted.) But as for now... FF literally has every in the game to increase Break dmg.
This is pretty much as far as a pure BE DPS could go without adding new mechanics or gimmicks, the only things missing are teammates, as I explained, even Ruan Mei pretty much wastes half of her kit when supporting FF because all that dmg bonus only applies to her normal dmg which is like maybe 10% of her dmg.
Just, watch any showcase of Firefly without Ruan Mei. Ruan Mei break efficiency buff and break extension are HUGE for firefly, her ult res pen also help a ton. Replace ruan mei for any other support, you lose at least a third of your damage.
You can't blame these perfectionist insecure kiddies for being impatient and always, i mean, ALWAYS comparing 😂 This game is still relatively young and eventually more break supports will arrive, as well as DoT, FuA, etc. Maybe even a new mechanic.
@@beelzeduard they're a bunch of neurodivergent fucks that can't sit still, ignore them like SAM ignores your opponent's defenses.
Exactly. People wanting her to be a universal unit that scales with crit just because.. that deals as much or more damage than Jing Liu/DHIL/Acheron. If majority of people want to homogenize all dps characters to be just crit dps, then what are BE buffs for? What's the point of super break then? What's the point of new dps characters if they're all the same anyway?
Like, give it a chance for now. If v3 comes and it still scales with break and no crits then don't pull for her if you feel that she's too niche for your account. You don't need to pull for every character anyway. If you want a character that is focused on BE and crit then you have boothill. Firefly is for BE, def ignore and SPD with no crits.
@@Raigana0203 I’m just saying. Of course, Ruan Mei is currently the best option, but people will have to understand that Ruan Mei is actually not designed for a pure break DPS like FF, since a lot of her buffs go to waste.
And not quite, I’ve seen showcases with Asta instead of Ruan Mei, and FF still did around 250k-330k per skill, there is a difference, but it’s not as big as you make it out to be since Asta was also using DDD to get more actions on FF.
V1 Firefly is basically pre 2.1 Yanqing lol. Both needing a specific character to function(HMC/Gepard) and without that character in the team they are very awkward to play and just isn't worth it overall.
At the moment, Boothill can generally clear contents faster than V1 Firefly, even in 3 target scenario which Destruction unit is supposed to shine at. Why ? Because Boothill have free crits and can proc his own Break Damage, enabling some very impressive Bronya shenanigans. Firefly? She's forced to go with HMC if you want to actually deal damage after the intial break.
Giving Firefly a way to proc her own break damage without HMC would solve most of her problem and open up alot of potential teammates for her to go with if you don't like HMC.
If you don't have Ruan Mei, who's a good replacement?
bronya, sparkle and asta is the go-to replacement. The point of ruan mei is to break the enemy faster, u can do that by making firefly take actions more.
asta / pela / sw, their alot weaker
@@Viccori331 You can but the super break damage will decrease a lot
Guys its looks like the crit one is better than this compare to this channel crit build video e0s0 is it? and i want to know is firefly and boothil is kinda same i mean they're break and can make same weakness ugh.. i know im totally wrong since i dont actually understand can someone explain pls hahaha
No full break is better, as u want sufficent spd so u take an extra turn before the action countdown bar resets, this way on the next cycle u have 2 turns to get an extra turn on your enhanced state.though subjected to changes still early. good thing abt boothill is that his bis is bronya & ruan mei. though with bronya e1 & e2 he spikes a ton, firefly must have hmc and rm, ngl rn gallagher is not really replacable now till jiaoqiu is out in future. from an f2p standpoint, firefly is easier & cheaper to use and will most likely be on par with boothill if not slightly better. but 1 issue with firefly is that u need good relics on at least both hmc & gallagher, where as boothill supports can just slap on rainbow sets & their they don't need as much relic invesment.
my goodness, so much spd
yup only possible due to her new relic set, plus rm 10% spd bonus, 143 seems ideal but agaisn't enemies that slow your speed like the video getting an extra 12% is good. cant go wrong with more SPD. plus u want sufficent spd take an extra turn before the countdown action bar ends, where your able to take 3 turns in 1 cycle. though do take this info with a grain of salt, still v1
i think firefly dmg is fine, even if it is reliant on rm and htb. what sucks tho is that firefly dps window is a bit tight without rm rebreaking enemies
The damage is fine, needing ruan mei without replacements isn't
For now she's kinda underwhelming.. no point pulling for her when you have a guinaifen with the same relics
How it feels to spread misinformation:
The problem with Firefly is that the second a better enabler for HMC gets released she will fall into obscurity faster than Blade the second DHIL was released. Which is funny because Boothill releases BEFORE Firefly and he’s objectively just a better break dps with HMC and Ruan Mei. Her being boiled down to a super break bot ignores her stupidly high skill scalings which is already a bad sign.
Admit that her kit is in a bad place right now, we all want her to be good. Why tf do y’all keep excusing HoYo’s bad design? Do you WANT her to stay as a bad character?
A better enabler for HMC? But HMC is the enabler here. They're the reason why break effect dps is so good now, similar to what Kafka did for dot.
bruh hmc is the enabler not the other way around. And even if another better scaling dps is released you'd still need firefly for fire weak enemies unless you have another fire dps
@@jackmanleblanc2518 They meant a better driver, if they release a unit that uses hmc even better then firefly is automatically powercrept, because she couldn't work in other teams like she is right now unlike boothill
@@kreftl They meant a unit using even better hmc buffs, and not really? seems new break dps can just implant their element weakness, like at this moment you could just pull boothill and he would be better, also want her to be good
The stats aren't realistic at all. The 7 speed subs are nice to get to 200+ speed per ult (pretty achievable). The biggest gripe is HMC break effect being that high along with MotP being S5 with high speed as well. In the showcase there were 2 MotP which is pretty unlikely for most. Not saying the showcase was bad (all hail FIREFLY)
you don't really need 200+ speed, if I remember right she needs 181 to do the 3 turns in ultimate (131 without ultimate), and yes hmc break is so high but you could be fine with cogs or low S1-S3 MotP (please rerun that lightcone already)
People kept complaining on Firefly's damage being "too reliant on Harmony Trailblazer" but they're not seeing the fact that her attacks' frequency is insane. Sure there are some improvements that could be made, but as things currently stand, she doesn't seem to be designed as a "damage per screenshot" DPS, and therefore shall not expected to perform like one.
Thats fair, but she also really needs ruan mei right now, making her team flexibility almost none
@@asoret people make so much fuss about "flexibility" to a character that obviously wants to be niche.
@@Grayewick I mean flexibility on the team, I know like boothill she is a character that just wants to break
@@asoret That's exactly what I'm saying. People are trying so hard to shove Firefly to function like other DPS.
Firefly without HMC seems really bad. LMAO
At this point, we just need to wait for new *4 break dmg character and let firefly get power creeped by a *4 character 😭😭
yes all break unit actually doesn't do as well without HTB except for boothill. but firefly can bring things to the next level due to more attacks, higher break efficency, break dmg plus the main bonus is that fire implant which u can run her anywhere, unlike xueyi where it's more restrictive even though she can do a 3 cycle clear for moc 12 in the 1st half comfortably you can only bring her agaisnt quantum weak
i understand lot of people like firefly but why some people said like she need rework or something like that
i do feel that she needs a slight buff if we want her to be on acheron's level
@@HSRGuides that's i can agree but she's not bad
@@zeroprimo2623 She's not bad with this team, but if you remove ruan mei it gets painful
Thank you for being the first person who knows how to play the game, all the other showcases made Firefly looked terrible I saw a clear with 5 cycles because they kept trolling.
Look at the stats and Light Cones lil pup before posting something 🤣😂
yup SSS Tier stats on all of them and two copies of memories of the past S5 with weaker relics & lc will take 1 or 2 cycles longer
@@marcuskane1040 The stats are not that unrealistic, FF gets 50 spd, RM gives 20% BE, HTB gives some BE (not sure how much), Watchmaker set gives BE, and not to mention e0s1 FF gets 281 BE with no rng in substats. So hitting 350+ BE seems pretty easy, as for the supps I think Gallagher and HTB are a bit hard to hit but RM can easily get 200% BE (not including BE buffs in the video). Not sure about those two since I haven't built them yet. As for the LC’s I do in fact have s5 memories and then u can put RM lc on Tb dont need two s5 memories. Gallagher LC is a f2p option as well I’m pretty sure. EDIT: I did a bit more research HTB gives 30% on ult, and 15% of their BE to whole team so its quite a huge buff.
my firefly was alittle underbuilt, too lazy to change the stats, so i just sticked with HMC & GALLAGHER they both should have ard 250-300% BE at 156/160 SPD at max with hmc & rm be buffs except watch maker