we also have the hilux in a much smaller market. they dont really compete with each other. the landcruiser os waaaayyy more expensive. its more expensive than a tundra even. not sure that north america would accept a $90k dual cab with a vinyl floor.
Awesome video thanks Ronny been trolling internet for pics and videos of this truck but this is the first in depth information there is. See you Friday at the show
spacers are only illegal if you change the wheel track, lc70 wheel track in the gov system is recorded off the widest point which is the front. So if you only make the rear match the front, you're not altering the vehicle track, thus legal.
As much as I love the Landcruiser for its simplicity, when you step back and think about it, for the price you pay you get next to nothing apart from 4WD capabilities and virtually when you get one the owner has to spend thousands on modifying it just to get it up to scratch, severely lacking in interior, still living in the 80's (but thats why some love it), for a car that expensive to be lacking in IT, nice interior, wheels, safety features, decent seats, some air bags. And only now they have cruise control? Yes, extremely reliable though, Lucky they have thousands of fan boys coz it's really not actually worth more than $40,000ish.
Change emissions to a level that is not street legal for newer cars anymore. Actually not much of an issue out in the bush, but small particles from diesel engines are a problem in the bigger cities, therefore those DPFs are mostly standard now. Some newer cars even have urea injection systems to keep the nitrous oxide levels below a certain level. People want to get rid of those systems as they cost some performance (like catalyzers do) and seem to be all unecessary to them.
I'm in Perth. I have a 76 GXL 2015. I Love it. Pro's: Love the bonnet, Love the new 5th gear , Love the bonnet. Nice new seats, love the new bonnet still,,,,, Thats about it. Cons: Dont like the DPF, Dont like traction control, rather mechanical LSD but I can see why they did it for compliance. Now, the Jury is still out on the following: The injectors. Have they changed them due to the alleged Denso injector problem and Toyota blaming the poor fuel or is that B/S.Somebody please educate me on that. That can be a costly exercise and might even incur a new engine!!! I have placed another water separator filter before the factory fuel filter. Am I safe with that. The bloody rear track width,,,,They should of done that!!!!! Grrrrrr, Cant wait to see the up-grades,,,,, Thank you for the up-load,,,
Hi Ronney your issue with the DPF is what happened with the original catalytic converters way back when!! they were setting fires all over farms and bushland in aus as they were reaching temperatures of 600-700 degC. I believe thats why factory cats are either ceramic coated or have a heat shield.
The DPF delete has already been sorted. Just autos cracked it last week. The took delivery on the Monday and were running a full three inch turbo back system with no check engine lights or fault codes on the Thursday.
With minimal maintenance that should last a lifetime. Our 1997 4Runner Limited is long paid off and it runs like the day we drove it off the lot with more than 350,000 miles currently. I had a 2002 Sequoia Limited that I sold that had 190,000 miles trouble free miles. Our newest Yota is a 2013 Highlander Hybrid Limited with 150,000 miles and it still gets close to 30mpg even with my heavy foot. We tend to buy all our Yota's new and drive them into the ground. My family has owned numerous makes over the decades but we eventually settled on Toyota for their reliability and high resale value even at 10 years old. My next Yota will be a 2020 Lexus LX 570.
The only time a DPF gets hotter than a cat is when it's doing it's burn/cleanse. Highway driving will normally allow the ecu to start dpf clean automatically. That accessories fuse box is for when genuine accessories are fitted so all the fuses are in the one spot and you don't have inline fuses coming off your battery.
Ronny, thank you so much for the great review. I hope this model comes to India sometime soon. However, not many offroad or utility inclined customers. But lovely vehicle really. Its still a pleasure to own a 60 series!
Happy U R showing This as I will Be ordering one, But will get it Duel Cab Chassis as Getting it converted to 6 x 4 ..They have already told me They will put 2 new Axles to the width off the front Axle Will tell Toyota I do not want the back seats in #. As I will fit 2 single seats in with a fridge in the Middle also Yes the 3" exhaust is getting fitted
The DPF systems have been confirmed to start fires. Modifications to the exhaust is very difficult because it upsets the pressure sensors and the ECU. Not sure how Toyota will treat warranty with modifications to the exhaust. Piezo injectors are used because of their ability for super fast operation that is required by the DPF systems. Hino systems can have up to 5 injections per cycle. Australian fuel is of very poor quality compared to world standards, good fuel filtration is very important with common rail systems
Ronny Dahl It was in the 3 articles written that ASPW referred to in the review..... 1) www.caradvice.com.au/493078/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-review 2) www.caradvice.com.au/452116/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-more-power-and-torque-extra-features/?source=plista 3) www.caradvice.com.au/492852/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-pricing-and-specs/ The rpm and gearing info is in the above links. stated : less than 2000 rpm at 110km per hour
Probably worth mentioning that the new single cab 79s are ANCAP rated at 5 stars, as opposed to the current pathetic 3 star rating. Great chance in my opinon.
I am so glad we still have the 1HZ here in South Africa. Slower but lovely, solid and timeless. Piezo injection..... DPF?? Hahahaha. Grab a chair and make sure you sit down when you get the quotation to replace your high pressure piezo common rail injectors when they fail at 100,000km. If all else fail, reboot your “computer” engine. Hehe
Here in the southwest US (Nevada) alot of our construction worker trucks are Diesel (Ford powerstroke) with dpf's, haven't heard of one instance of it causing fires during regeneration.
I know on the big 18 wheelers here in the US some, if not all, of the DPF filters are ceramic. They don't like hard knocks. Any concerns there in regards to off road use? Also, cleaning them involves special equipment. If your local shop doesn't have a cleaner they have to send them elsewhere.
1:30 GM tried that forward-facing scoop on the Z-28 IIRC. They had to stop using it because in the rain it scooped water into the engine compartment. Have you had any issues with water getting in there?
Are they stupidly expensive as they are in Australia? I live in the Northern Territory and quite a few of these dual cabs get around. Often with exhaust work done. Creates a satisfyingly deep growl. Want!
Just for comparison purposes. I measured these same points for both the 2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (Hard Rock edition JK series) 2 door and 4 door versions (I'm in America...so export versions may differ). The wheelbase of the 2 door measured right at 8 feet. The 4 door measured 9' 9". The wheel track front and rear for both are right at 70", or 5' 10" (interestingly the same as the Landcruiser in this video). The clearance to the bottom of the differentials (front and back) are 9.5" with the stock 31" tires. Both 2 door and 4 door Jeeps here in the US run a 3.6 liter v6 (gasoline engine) that puts out 285 horsepower and 260 foot/lbs or torque. I had to find an conversion site to figure out the readings from this video, but it seems the Toyota puts out 146 horse power and 258 foot/lbs of torque. To reverse the equations, the Jeep puts out 212Kw and 352 Newton meters. Of course I've not dyno'ed my Jeep, I'm taking the stats from here: www.jeep.com/en/wrangler/capability/ The output to the rear wheels could very well be less. I have both in my garage, I did the same sort of tape measurements Ronny did in this video and no I'm not saying one thing is better than another or anything like that. Just thought some folks might want to know how the new Jeeps compare.
I'm about to buy a 2002 3rd Generation toyota 4runner. I was worried about the age of the car but looking at this LC built for 2017, I'm going for that 4runner with a lot more confidence
Kufre Udobong Why has this video given you confidence regarding the 4Runner? Just curious. Personally I have confidence in Toyota in general as far as age and durability is concerned I'm even considering a 60 Series.
James I was a bit worried about the outdated interior of the 3rd gen. Actually in my country (Nigeria), a foreign used 3rd gen costs a little about a locally used 4th gen. I just have concerns about that 4.0L V6
Kufre Udobong Very few SUVs have a more reliable engine than the 4.0. Keep the oil changes on time and it will run forever. my brothers has 297,000 miles on it U.S.
I work on lots of cars and in general I've seen toyotas with lots of miles and seen Chevrolets with lots of miles it's all down to the first and second owner and how well was the car taken care of
Having a DPF isn't a problem, just make sure don't park on areas where grass or sticks are likely to catch fire. Our 4x4 fire trucks all have DPF's, and we know not to ever park in long grass. But that common sense applies to any vehicle parking on dry grass.
I can't speak for the Toyota auto hubs but the old North American auto hubs don't disengage if you have it in 4 wheel drive. For them to disengage you have to shift in 2 wheel drive and they will eventually disengage. To disengage you have to drive the opposite direction in 2 wheel drive for about 10 feet. In other words, the wheel has to turn faster than the shaft it's attached to. The big problem with auto hubs is if they suffer high shock while engaging. In other words, if you get stuck in 2 wheel drive, put it in 4 wheel drive and give it the beans immediately. You will wreck them. You had to gingerly rock it back and forth several times to make sure they were completely engaged and then you were good to go. It was not the best system for here. I do like that Toyota have added a manual locking capability. Just lock them before you go wheeling and then you're sure to have them ready if you get stuck.
Ronny great video looking for more videos on how to fix that rear axel to run on the same trac as the front axel. thanks again for sharing your knowledge
That truck is beautiful. The hood is the best part. Got into a fender bender a few years ago with my Ranger. It was a b*tch to find another bulge hood to replace it.
The rear track is smaller so weight in the tray is centred more over the wheels as possible as the cruiser floating axle setup often sees the bearings or hub fail due to overloading causing the axle and hub to slide out of the diff. The old girls are common for it so I think this is their quick fix for it while keeping the 3 tonne GVM where the older models are only 2800
Just about to get one either this week or next week, same colour in GXL variant that you have here. Will have to get the in line particulate filter upgraded hopefully once more $$ walks through the door
Have a 2019 LX 79 cruiser, predominantly for towing a 3 tonne caravan I live in. What are your thoughts on engine remapping, and/or exhaust upgrade with DPF in mind?
I wonder how much it would cost to open the gearbox up and put the new fifth gear in while having the gearbox out for clutch upgrade on the older model
Tsaki Tx I can tell you that the Duramax will not last as long. Cummins is excellent though. I love the 70 Series Cruiser. I wish we had them in the states.
Dear Toyota, Please bring the 79 series to the States. You can call it farm equipment so you don't have to pass all the stupid emissions and safety stuff.
Ronny, Deleting the DPF wont be difficult. Theyve been deleting it out of the 200 series for a while now. Basically need to run a 3 inch exhaust from the turbo straight thru, removing the DPF module, then an ecu tune to trick the brains of the vehicle.
Yeah that's exactly right. But, there won't be any way to legally delete it. It's like the EGR block/deletes, still illegal but everyone does it. The main difference being that a DPF unit missing is a lot easier to spot than a blocked egr.
I wish I could get one in the US or that the conversion rate to US dollars didn't make this truck cost as much as a small house here in the US. I would love to have a dual cab cruiser but it doesn't seem real affordable. I still love my 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon a lot though. I really can't complain, except I miss the nice long bed on my Chevy S-10 ZR2.
Crikey, our 2003 (2.7) and 2005 Grand Cherokee (3.0) has piezo injectors. Great review, but I'm surprised the power output is relatively low considering the engine capacity. As for that DPF Ronny, pull it off and you'll see a massive jump in economy and performance. If they're not required by law get rid. They also cause issues when the get clogged up, they have to be driven at high rpm to keep the heat up and for it to burn off the soot. I think the front end reminds me of the Isuzu trooper/big horn from a few years ago.
luv the Bonnet and thats about it. everything else pretty much seems the same. will be inyeresting to see if tbere are perfomance gains due to the new injectors and any restrictions due to the DPF ? agree with everything you said regarding wheel track and vhild restraints and a 6th Gear and im certain Most 79 series owners will agree.
Hi Runny,,thanks for sharing the updates for 70 series. I have land cruiser 2015 Lc71 the short base, and I have noticed the different in the track of rear wheel and front wheel, I run the stock wheel, my question is, what is the size of spacer should I use to make them equal?? thanks
Ronny Dahl,thanks Ronny.here in Saudi Arabia spacers are legal with a condition, not to be very wide, but if they are not changing the stock shape, that is OK... I appreciate your support.
dont think the dpf will be a problem as their is plenty of petrol vehicles out thie with catalysts that get to similar temps and are not causng fires out bush. also the piezoelectric injectors are a crystal which when applied with a small electric field it expands opening the injector when it is discharged it returns to its normal state this making it a quiet and efficient injector DO NOT UNPLUG when testing with vehicle running as this could cause the injector to completely jam open causing run ons etc.
Toyota doing the bare minimum, I guess that's how they afford to keep such a low sales volume vehicle around. I've been told the hoods are proprietary and the only way to get them is through toyota. the DPF is hard on the motors and I would highly advise their removal if you buy one equipped with them. The regen cycles are killer on engines, we have seen it time and time again since their introduction in the USA.
fordrac1ng81 Sadly, Dpf removal is illegal in most if not all Australian states and could even invalidate your insurance. Engineers who do it usually refer to it as a "racing modification" not for road use.
interdec Void insurance? lol australia car laws. In USA it voids warranty and is also illegal. Any modification of emissions equipment is technically illegal. Who actually cares is another story. We get away with it as long as we label products "for offroad use only"
fordrac1ng81 ... it seems to me there are a lot of people who doesn't care about environment in the first world, especially US. Donald is obviously one of them. in Europe you get in serious trouble if caught w/o an emissions legal car + at least every 2 years it gets technical inspected, emissions is one of them. if it fails you walk. of fact to think of is: Europe + US is roughly 10% of the world population but WE are responsible for for maybe 80% of carbon emissions worldwide. so ripping DPF off or rolling coal just for fun is more than stupid!
i just got one of the last old spec 76 available mainly due to the hubs but iv also heard there is structural strengthening of the body, the one thing that boils my noodle is the ABS unit where the duel battery would normally go, would you know where a suitable place for the 2nd batt would be now?
Hey Ronny the only trouble I have had with the dpf in my 2010 D40 Navara is it got so hot that it melted the sensors that monitor the module. Great fun hey? Not! luckily I had just come off the tracks after a week away down in the coorong of sa and sent my car into limp mode for the 100+km drive home at 60kmph.
The rear wheel track is just ridiculous !!!! LOVE the bonnet !! pity you can't get a single cab without curtain air bags !! I think the DPF thingy is going to make people second guess themselves to where they can or should go just in case they start a scrub fire and your trapped in it !! Great review thanks !! Seeya Rob
With the new hood having a functional hood scoop, wouldn't that limit your water crossing ability if a bow wave were to come across the hood during a water crossing whereas the snorkel is at the roof line?
water crossing wont effect it at the scoop, the older version has the same scoop just smaller. Its the snorkel that is the main issue, with a proper snorkel you should be able to cross with water more than halfway up the windows, given the conditions are good of course.
hi ronny what size rim 8 inch or 10 inch and what off set on those king rims are you running on the front of your cruiser ?do they stick out much with the 35 inch ?
Ronny Dahl . what is the difference if i have the ram facing front or backwards? in what direction should the ram be facing if it's raining and during dusty days because i live in the middle east. thanks and keep up the good work 👍love all your videos
Hey Ronny, you maybe surprised that my 2015 Ford f150 has a 2.7l v6 twin turbo gasoline (petrol) engine that makes 209kw and 448n m at the rear wheels stock! That's 281hp and 340 lb/ft of torque.
I know how the 2.7l ecoboost is built. longevity, and durability is not an issue. The engine was designed for the long haul, as it is built using materials, and technology that the 6.7l powerstroke uses to dominate here in the US.
So many people that I know here in canada are still having to do a valve job at 20-40,000 because ford sold there design work to the lowest bidder, without doing some of there own r and d . I have loved fords and other brands all my life, but right know I would not buy ford chev or dodge.And just the laws of physics will tell me that when in towing mode that little motor is working overtime especially on the downhill no torque to hold them back.Of course Im still driving a 1995 f150 4x4 with 400,000 and dont plane to change any time soon 300 six carb and c6 .Its not new but no factory warranty to get blindsided you when they dont cover you.The 6.7 is another story. Im not trying to down your truck I just feel we are being short changed when it comes to new vehicles.
Great video and really pissed off they didn't fix the track. Wonder what its like looking over the bonnet. Hopefully there will be one at the Perth 4wd show as coming down from Broome.
I'm no expert, but I think the auto diff only engages when you actually throw it into gear and it disengages again when you shift into reverse. I just saw a video before this one where the guy talked about the difference with Auto and Lock.
Still the same spot. We have sealed alternators if you go through a lot of mud and constantly changing/cleaning them though. A lot of mines are now running these.
luv the Bonnet and thats about it. everything else pretty much seems the same. will be inyeresting to see if tbere are perfomance gains due to the new injectors and any restrictions due to the DPF ? agree with everything you said regarding wheel track and vhild restraints and a 6th Gear and im certain Most 79 series owners will agree. thanks for the Vid Ronny great as always
Wish we had them in Canada as well. Worked in Africa for years as a driller and loved these trucks. Excellent diesel program.. Well maybe with jeep coming out with there 2019 wrangler pickup truck it may spark toyota to wake up and make there trucks available here in canada Not a big jeep fan but it will be the closest thing close to the landcruiser i can get. To bad jeep will end up selling more than 100,000 units before end of first year in USA ,wont be able to keep up with demand.Please Toyota respond to this and bless us here in Canada
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Man, wished we got those in the states!
And the UK
It's a shame. A big shame too that the EU won't allow the Land Cruiser 200 anymore. :(
Sadly the 70 Series would compete directly with the US-built Tacoma which is more profitable for Toyota, so I doubt it would ever be sold in the US.
P Pha yes it is a shame we dont have these in the US.
we also have the hilux in a much smaller market. they dont really compete with each other. the landcruiser os waaaayyy more expensive. its more expensive than a tundra even. not sure that north america would accept a $90k dual cab with a vinyl floor.
"No speakers in the back but 3 ash trays in the front" yeeeeah Fukin straya 🇦🇺
Thanks Ronnie. Great stuff. Hoping to get me one, probably a Troopy.
Please do a link up with Ronnie when you come to Aus. That's definitely some content worth watching :)
Cheers Andrew, I've seen your other Troopy builds so I can only imagine what you got in store for the next one!
Andrew, should we be expecting you to change your channel name to 6xOverland!?
Just ordered a new dual-cab - delivery early Jan. New spec. What tyres would you recommend for WA. Muds or ATs?
you got it with shower
Absolutely love this truck, I wish we had this in the USA, great video!
Man I wish Toyota sold this design in the us. Love the look of the new scoop
the new one will be plus it'll have better engine and same size track width . A 6.6 litre sisu diesel and 6 jetrag man box in .. 8 months ...
i thought u guys have Yota cruisers?, islamic state seems to get them with ease.
Awesome video thanks Ronny been trolling internet for pics and videos of this truck but this is the first in depth information there is. See you Friday at the show
Holy crap its the late 90's..... but its 2017? I WANT THESE IN CANADA !!!
oh no you dont, u need a f 350 or Nissan titan mans machine.
conmanumber1 no
spacers are only illegal if you change the wheel track, lc70 wheel track in the gov system is recorded off the widest point which is the front. So if you only make the rear match the front, you're not altering the vehicle track, thus legal.
In North America we had DPF in our trucks and a tuner allowed us to straight pipe them and make the real hidden power.
As much as I love the Landcruiser for its simplicity, when you step back and think about it, for the price you pay you get next to nothing apart from 4WD capabilities and virtually when you get one the owner has to spend thousands on modifying it just to get it up to scratch, severely lacking in interior, still living in the 80's (but thats why some love it), for a car that expensive to be lacking in IT, nice interior, wheels, safety features, decent seats, some air bags. And only now they have cruise control? Yes, extremely reliable though, Lucky they have thousands of fan boys coz it's really not actually worth more than $40,000ish.
Might forget to put the DPF back on when the 3 inch exhaust is installed ;)
What would that do?
P.C. Gornmad by law if your vehicle comes with an emission device you cannot remove it
Change emissions to a level that is not street legal for newer cars anymore. Actually not much of an issue out in the bush, but small particles from diesel engines are a problem in the bigger cities, therefore those DPFs are mostly standard now.
Some newer cars even have urea injection systems to keep the nitrous oxide levels below a certain level.
People want to get rid of those systems as they cost some performance (like catalyzers do) and seem to be all unecessary to them.
each time you said pumpkin, I giggled a little. just sounds funny talking about a car and calling the diff a pumpkin
I'm in Perth. I have a 76 GXL 2015. I Love it.
Pro's: Love the bonnet, Love the new 5th gear , Love the bonnet. Nice new seats, love the new bonnet still,,,,, Thats about it.
Cons: Dont like the DPF, Dont like traction control, rather mechanical LSD but I can see why they did it for compliance.
Now, the Jury is still out on the following:
The injectors. Have they changed them due to the alleged Denso injector problem and Toyota blaming the poor fuel or is that B/S.Somebody please educate me on that.
That can be a costly exercise and might even incur a new engine!!! I have placed another water separator filter before the factory fuel filter. Am I safe with that.
The bloody rear track width,,,,They should of done that!!!!! Grrrrrr,
Cant wait to see the up-grades,,,,,
Thank you for the up-load,,,
The iPhone of 4x4's. A couple of small changes and its amazing
Outstanding video mate 🙏🙏🙏
Never mind the 2017 ute, that next season beard is maturing well.
Hi Ronney your issue with the DPF is what happened with the original catalytic converters way back when!! they were setting fires all over farms and bushland in aus as they were reaching temperatures of 600-700 degC. I believe thats why factory cats are either ceramic coated or have a heat shield.
fair call, hopefully that heat shield is more than enough.
Nice I agree I love the new Bonet you need to get one for your cruiser
you are the first reviewer on 2017 79 series. good on ya mate..
The DPF delete has already been sorted. Just autos cracked it last week. The took delivery on the Monday and were running a full three inch turbo back system with no check engine lights or fault codes on the Thursday.
With minimal maintenance that should last a lifetime. Our 1997 4Runner Limited is long paid off and it runs like the day we drove it off the lot with more than 350,000 miles currently. I had a 2002 Sequoia Limited that I sold that had 190,000 miles trouble free miles. Our newest Yota is a 2013 Highlander Hybrid Limited with 150,000 miles and it still gets close to 30mpg even with my heavy foot. We tend to buy all our Yota's new and drive them into the ground. My family has owned numerous makes over the decades but we eventually settled on Toyota for their reliability and high resale value even at 10 years old. My next Yota will be a 2020 Lexus LX 570.
The only time a DPF gets hotter than a cat is when it's doing it's burn/cleanse. Highway driving will normally allow the ecu to start dpf clean automatically. That accessories fuse box is for when genuine accessories are fitted so all the fuses are in the one spot and you don't have inline fuses coming off your battery.
Ronny, thank you so much for the great review. I hope this model comes to India sometime soon. However, not many offroad or utility inclined customers. But lovely vehicle really. Its still a pleasure to own a 60 series!
Thanks for the rundown! The 76 Series is my dream 4wd.
So beautiful! You lucky dogs!!! We only get to see these in the US through your vids!
wow what a comprehensive review, thanks a lot man! look forward to the next instalment!
Happy U R showing This as I will Be ordering one, But will get it Duel Cab Chassis as Getting it converted to 6 x 4 ..They have already told me They will put 2 new Axles to the width off the front Axle Will tell Toyota I do not want the back seats in #. As I will fit 2 single seats in with a fridge in the Middle also Yes the 3" exhaust is getting fitted
The DPF systems have been confirmed to start fires. Modifications to the exhaust is very difficult because it upsets the pressure sensors and the ECU. Not sure how Toyota will treat warranty with modifications to the exhaust. Piezo injectors are used because of their ability for super fast operation that is required by the DPF systems. Hino systems can have up to 5 injections per cycle. Australian fuel is of very poor quality compared to world standards, good fuel filtration is very important with common rail systems
Ronny, in reading the press release, 2nd gear was also changed, in addition to 5th gear.
The press release also said that at 110kmph that it was UNDER 2000 rpm.
+Gen Kanai I wasn't aware of that, didn't get to drive it much but that will be for another video.
Ronny Dahl It was in the 3 articles written that ASPW referred to in the review.....
1) www.caradvice.com.au/493078/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-review
2) www.caradvice.com.au/452116/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-more-power-and-torque-extra-features/?source=plista
3) www.caradvice.com.au/492852/2017-toyota-landcruiser-70-series-pricing-and-specs/
The rpm and gearing info is in the above links.
stated : less than 2000 rpm at 110km per hour
Love your videos Ronny they're bloody awesome.
thanks mate
Probably worth mentioning that the new single cab 79s are ANCAP rated at 5 stars, as opposed to the current pathetic 3 star rating. Great chance in my opinon.
Very nice review Ronny. Congrats on the new truck.
+YoHo18 thanks mate. But it's not my new truck.
Ronny Dahl ah! I dunno got an impression of that. ;). I hope a new trip video coming soon. Also, please make a trip to eastern seaboard sometimes!!
I am so glad we still have the 1HZ here in South Africa. Slower but lovely, solid and timeless. Piezo injection..... DPF?? Hahahaha.
Grab a chair and make sure you sit down when you get the quotation to replace your high pressure piezo common rail injectors when they fail at 100,000km. If all else fail, reboot your “computer” engine. Hehe
I wish that Toyota would offer these 70 Series land cruisers in the united states. Thanks for the video
Here in the southwest US (Nevada) alot of our construction worker trucks are Diesel (Ford powerstroke) with dpf's, haven't heard of one instance of it causing fires during regeneration.
Dry spinifex is very easy to set alight, even a cat converter or normal exhaust can do it sometimes. A hot DPF is more than enough.
I know on the big 18 wheelers here in the US some, if not all, of the DPF filters are ceramic. They don't like hard knocks. Any concerns there in regards to off road use? Also, cleaning them involves special equipment. If your local shop doesn't have a cleaner they have to send them elsewhere.
yea the dpfs are weak as fuck and you cannot clean them. it has to be reconditioned or replaced
surely addressed the clutch issue!!
1:30 GM tried that forward-facing scoop on the Z-28 IIRC. They had to stop using it because in the rain it scooped water into the engine compartment. Have you had any issues with water getting in there?
Great video Ronny. Looking forward to seeing further updates.
Fantastic vids you have and thanks for info I get mine on Friday !!!!! Here in Johannesburg
Are they stupidly expensive as they are in Australia? I live in the Northern Territory and quite a few of these dual cabs get around. Often with exhaust work done. Creates a satisfyingly deep growl. Want!
Just for comparison purposes. I measured these same points for both the 2016 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (Hard Rock edition JK series) 2 door and 4 door versions (I'm in America...so export versions may differ).
The wheelbase of the 2 door measured right at 8 feet. The 4 door measured 9' 9".
The wheel track front and rear for both are right at 70", or 5' 10" (interestingly the same as the Landcruiser in this video).
The clearance to the bottom of the differentials (front and back) are 9.5" with the stock 31" tires.
Both 2 door and 4 door Jeeps here in the US run a 3.6 liter v6 (gasoline engine) that puts out 285 horsepower and 260 foot/lbs or torque. I had to find an conversion site to figure out the readings from this video, but it seems the Toyota puts out 146 horse power and 258 foot/lbs of torque. To reverse the equations, the Jeep puts out 212Kw and 352 Newton meters. Of course I've not dyno'ed my Jeep, I'm taking the stats from here: www.jeep.com/en/wrangler/capability/ The output to the rear wheels could very well be less.
I have both in my garage, I did the same sort of tape measurements Ronny did in this video and no I'm not saying one thing is better than another or anything like that. Just thought some folks might want to know how the new Jeeps compare.
'there's no speakers in the back, but there's three ashtrays.' because straya hahaha
I'm about to buy a 2002 3rd Generation toyota 4runner. I was worried about the age of the car but looking at this LC built for 2017, I'm going for that 4runner with a lot more confidence
Kufre Udobong Why has this video given you confidence regarding the 4Runner? Just curious.
Personally I have confidence in Toyota in general as far as age and durability is concerned I'm even considering a 60 Series.
James I was a bit worried about the outdated interior of the 3rd gen. Actually in my country (Nigeria), a foreign used 3rd gen costs a little about a locally used 4th gen. I just have concerns about that 4.0L V6
Kufre Udobong Very few SUVs have a more reliable engine than the 4.0. Keep the oil changes on time and it will run forever. my brothers has 297,000 miles on it U.S.
I work on lots of cars and in general I've seen toyotas with lots of miles and seen Chevrolets with lots of miles it's all down to the first and second owner and how well was the car taken care of
Having a DPF isn't a problem, just make sure don't park on areas where grass or sticks are likely to catch fire.
Our 4x4 fire trucks all have DPF's, and we know not to ever park in long grass. But that common sense applies to any vehicle parking on dry grass.
I can't speak for the Toyota auto hubs but the old North American auto hubs don't disengage if you have it in 4 wheel drive. For them to disengage you have to shift in 2 wheel drive and they will eventually disengage. To disengage you have to drive the opposite direction in 2 wheel drive for about 10 feet. In other words, the wheel has to turn faster than the shaft it's attached to.
The big problem with auto hubs is if they suffer high shock while engaging. In other words, if you get stuck in 2 wheel drive, put it in 4 wheel drive and give it the beans immediately. You will wreck them. You had to gingerly rock it back and forth several times to make sure they were completely engaged and then you were good to go. It was not the best system for here. I do like that Toyota have added a manual locking capability. Just lock them before you go wheeling and then you're sure to have them ready if you get stuck.
Wish these were available in Canada!! Beauty beard Ronny!!!
Why not a hand twist on the wheel hub like the old days? Why do I now have to get some socket to change it?
Ronny great video
looking for more videos on how to fix that rear axel to run on the same trac as the front axel.
thanks again for sharing your knowledge
That truck is beautiful. The hood is the best part. Got into a fender bender a few years ago with my Ranger. It was a b*tch to find another bulge hood to replace it.
Looks like a 200 series intercooler?
Nice blog very detailed
The rear track is smaller so weight in the tray is centred more over the wheels as possible as the cruiser floating axle setup often sees the bearings or hub fail due to overloading causing the axle and hub to slide out of the diff. The old girls are common for it so I think this is their quick fix for it while keeping the 3 tonne GVM where the older models are only 2800
Toyota should get you in to design the next release..you've made some great suggestions
How is that hot cat gonna go getting splashed with water or covered in mud? Thermal shock could crack it.
I think they have a great base package. I love the sound of your truck and wish I had the coin to buy one similar. I'm off to put the lotto in.
Just about to get one either this week or next week, same colour in GXL variant that you have here. Will have to get the in line particulate filter upgraded hopefully once more $$ walks through the door
Have a 2019 LX 79 cruiser, predominantly for towing a 3 tonne caravan I live in. What are your thoughts on engine remapping, and/or exhaust upgrade with DPF in mind?
Hey Ronny please do a roof top tent pack up tips vid, there are a dozen set up vids on RUclips but none of any value when packing them up. Cheers
Can't wait to see the custom ute video for this new land cruiser
Love this truck.
Great video as always.
Does the D.P.F system solve the issue with turbo diesel's of the E.G.R valve & the inlet manifold getting choked with carbon build up ?
No. If anything, it makes things worse and has it's own can of worms to deal with.
I wonder how much it would cost to open the gearbox up and put the new fifth gear in while having the gearbox out for clutch upgrade on the older model
Will that hood scoop cause problems for deep water crossing?
Those are real trucks ! No the jokes we have in America
Vision Quest i know im late but i think that a cummins or a duramax will outperform a cruiser any day
Tsaki Tx I can tell you that the Duramax will not last as long. Cummins is excellent though. I love the 70 Series Cruiser. I wish we had them in the states.
this truk can pull 5th wheel??
@@tsakitx8190 Hey American hardware won the war not Japanese. a Ram will cane the arse off a Yota.
Dear Toyota, Please bring the 79 series to the States. You can call it farm equipment so you don't have to pass all the stupid emissions and safety stuff.
canada allows mines to own 70s as mining equipment
If they make a DPF scrape guard it should stop the heat getting threw to the grass under the vehicle.
Is there a way to delete the DPF with say a full exhaust without getting a check engine light or something?
It’s a shame we don’t get the 79 series land cruiser in the UK as the land Rover defender is not available anymore
Cheers Ronny, greatly informative 👍🏽
Aussie legend
Nice one. I wonder if anyone would import these into the UK?
You could put a plate where dpf is that's what we done with rfs on the new trucks
Ronny, Deleting the DPF wont be difficult.
Theyve been deleting it out of the 200 series for a while now. Basically need to run a 3 inch exhaust from the turbo straight thru, removing the DPF module, then an ecu tune to trick the brains of the vehicle.
+aussiestumpy that is the easy but it's quite illegal and it carries big fines too. Especially for the person that deletes it.
Yeah that's exactly right. But, there won't be any way to legally delete it.
It's like the EGR block/deletes, still illegal but everyone does it. The main difference being that a DPF unit missing is a lot easier to spot than a blocked egr.
Is removing DPF unit a big problem?
I wish I could get one in the US or that the conversion rate to US dollars didn't make this truck cost as much as a small house here in the US. I would love to have a dual cab cruiser but it doesn't seem real affordable. I still love my 2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon a lot though. I really can't complain, except I miss the nice long bed on my Chevy S-10 ZR2.
I heard the single cab has only a single 130l tank- is this true?
Hey did you find out if the new bonnet fits on the old and vice verser
Crikey, our 2003 (2.7) and 2005 Grand Cherokee (3.0) has piezo injectors.
Great review, but I'm surprised the power output is relatively low considering the engine capacity.
As for that DPF Ronny, pull it off and you'll see a massive jump in economy and performance. If they're not required by law get rid.
They also cause issues when the get clogged up, they have to be driven at high rpm to keep the heat up and for it to burn off the soot.
I think the front end reminds me of the Isuzu trooper/big horn from a few years ago.
luv the Bonnet and thats about it. everything else pretty much seems the same. will be inyeresting to see if tbere are perfomance gains due to the new injectors and any restrictions due to the DPF ?
agree with everything you said regarding wheel track and vhild restraints and a 6th Gear and im certain Most 79 series owners will agree.
New bonnet looks bad ass!
Hi Runny,,thanks for sharing the updates for 70 series. I have land cruiser 2015 Lc71 the short base, and I have noticed the different in the track of rear wheel and front wheel, I run the stock wheel, my question is, what is the size of spacer should I use to make them equal?? thanks
+Fawaz Almulhim spacers are not legal but if you are going to do it you'll need 50mm spacers to lineup the rear with the front
Ronny Dahl,thanks Ronny.here in Saudi Arabia spacers are legal with a condition, not to be very wide, but if they are not changing the stock shape, that is OK... I appreciate your support.
dont think the dpf will be a problem as their is plenty of petrol vehicles out thie with catalysts that get to similar temps and are not causng fires out bush. also the piezoelectric injectors are a crystal which when applied with a small electric field it expands opening the injector when it is discharged it returns to its normal state this making it a quiet and efficient injector DO NOT UNPLUG when testing with vehicle running as this could cause the injector to completely jam open causing run ons etc.
If this was in the USA, I bet this would outsell all the other truck companies there.
Toyota doing the bare minimum, I guess that's how they afford to keep such a low sales volume vehicle around. I've been told the hoods are proprietary and the only way to get them is through toyota. the DPF is hard on the motors and I would highly advise their removal if you buy one equipped with them. The regen cycles are killer on engines, we have seen it time and time again since their introduction in the USA.
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fordrac1ng81 Sadly, Dpf removal is illegal in most if not all Australian states and could even invalidate your insurance. Engineers who do it usually refer to it as a "racing modification" not for road use.
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Void insurance? lol australia car laws. In USA it voids warranty and is also illegal. Any modification of emissions equipment is technically illegal. Who actually cares is another story. We get away with it as long as we label products "for offroad use only"
fordrac1ng81 good on yah
fordrac1ng81 ...
it seems to me there are a lot of people who doesn't care about environment in the first world, especially US. Donald is obviously one of them.
in Europe you get in serious trouble if caught w/o an emissions legal car + at least every 2 years it gets technical inspected, emissions is one of them. if it fails you walk.
of fact to think of is: Europe + US is roughly 10% of the world population but WE are responsible for for maybe 80% of carbon emissions worldwide.
so ripping DPF off or rolling coal just for fun is more than stupid!
Hey Ronny did you end up seeing if you can swap the bonnet over the previous model cruiser? And where to buy them?
i just got one of the last old spec 76 available mainly due to the hubs but iv also heard there is structural strengthening of the body, the one thing that boils my noodle is the ABS unit where the duel battery would normally go, would you know where a suitable place for the 2nd batt would be now?
Hey Ronny the only trouble I have had with the dpf in my 2010 D40 Navara is it got so hot that it melted the sensors that monitor the module. Great fun hey? Not! luckily I had just come off the tracks after a week away down in the coorong of sa and sent my car into limp mode for the 100+km drive home at 60kmph.
The rear wheel track is just ridiculous !!!! LOVE the bonnet !! pity you can't get a single cab without curtain air bags !! I think the DPF thingy is going to make people second guess themselves to where they can or should go just in case they start a scrub fire and your trapped in it !! Great review thanks !! Seeya Rob
With the new hood having a functional hood scoop, wouldn't that limit your water crossing ability if a bow wave were to come across the hood during a water crossing whereas the snorkel is at the roof line?
I was wondering that also. THinking maybe the hood intake is for the inter cooler and the snorkle is the intake for the carburetion?
water crossing wont effect it at the scoop, the older version has the same scoop just smaller. Its the snorkel that is the main issue, with a proper snorkel you should be able to cross with water more than halfway up the windows, given the conditions are good of course.
hi ronny what size rim 8 inch or 10 inch and what off set on those king rims are you running on the front of your cruiser ?do they stick out much with the 35 inch ?
16*8 rims 0 offset front -55 rear they will stick out unless you adjust your wheel arches
oh ok thanks ...how did you adjust the wheel arch on front ? was there any scrubbing at all? i have same 8 inch zero offset rim but with 2 inch lift
The climate control for the A/C and heat are the exact same from 1985 XD That's fucking amazing I love it!!
Why do they put a snorkel on it if its not waterproof?
+dylan burnett it's just a raised air intake to get away from dust and sand.
That makes sense, thanks for the reply.
dylan burnett even though it could save the car from shutting down in emergencies or river crossing I think
toyota just says that to cover their ass, you can take the snorkel apart silicone all connections and be fine doing crossings
Ronny Dahl . what is the difference if i have the ram facing front or backwards? in what direction should the ram be facing if it's raining and during dusty days because i live in the middle east. thanks and keep up the good work 👍love all your videos
is there any technical reason why Toyota engineer made the track width different between front & rear axle?
Hey Ronny, you maybe surprised that my 2015 Ford f150 has a 2.7l v6 twin turbo gasoline (petrol) engine that makes 209kw and 448n m at the rear wheels stock! That's 281hp and 340 lb/ft of torque.
yes but at what cost, Do some homework as to longevity
I know how the 2.7l ecoboost is built. longevity, and durability is not an issue. The engine was designed for the long haul, as it is built using materials, and technology that the 6.7l powerstroke uses to dominate here in the US.
So many people that I know here in canada are still having to do a valve job at 20-40,000 because ford sold there design work to the lowest bidder, without doing some of there own r and d . I have loved fords and other brands all my life, but right know I would not buy ford chev or dodge.And just the laws of physics will tell me that when in towing mode that little motor is working overtime especially on the downhill no torque to hold them back.Of course Im still driving a 1995 f150 4x4 with 400,000 and dont plane to change any time soon 300 six carb and c6 .Its not new but no factory warranty to get blindsided you when they dont cover you.The 6.7 is another story. Im not trying to down your truck I just feel we are being short changed when it comes to new vehicles.
Great video and really pissed off they didn't fix the track. Wonder what its like looking over the bonnet. Hopefully there will be one at the Perth 4wd show as coming down from Broome.
This one is ours and will be at the 4WD show
Do these auto locking hubs mean the front diff is always being turned by the wheels? Doesn't sound very economical if it is.
I'm no expert, but I think the auto diff only engages when you actually throw it into gear and it disengages again when you shift into reverse. I just saw a video before this one where the guy talked about the difference with Auto and Lock.
Thanks Ronny! Is the alternator still down low where it's likely to be effected by mud and dirt? Or have Toyota moved it up higher?
Still the same spot. We have sealed alternators if you go through a lot of mud and constantly changing/cleaning them though. A lot of mines are now running these.
luv the Bonnet and thats about it. everything else pretty much seems the same. will be inyeresting to see if tbere are perfomance gains due to the new injectors and any restrictions due to the DPF ?
agree with everything you said regarding wheel track and vhild restraints and a 6th Gear and im certain Most 79 series owners will agree.
thanks for the Vid Ronny great as always
Wish we had them in Canada as well. Worked in Africa for years as a driller and loved these trucks. Excellent diesel program.. Well maybe with jeep coming out with there 2019 wrangler pickup truck it may spark toyota to wake up and make there trucks available here in canada Not a big jeep fan but it will be the closest thing close to the landcruiser i can get. To bad jeep will end up selling more than 100,000 units before end of first year in USA ,wont be able to keep up with demand.Please Toyota respond to this and bless us here in Canada
Toyota really needs to modernize those wing mirrors. Christ.