Cheap Synthetic Brushes Vs. Expensive Sable Paintbrushes- Microscope examination!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2023
  • Take a look at some common paintbrushes under the microscope! It's fun to see the differences between cheap and expensive paint brushes. Is it worth it to buy natural hair brushes, or is golden taklon (synthetic) good enough? My focus is on miniature painting, but the information in this video will be useful for a range of hobbies.
    In this video I look at plaid folk art, sax optimum, the army painter hobby brushes, games workshop citadel paintbrushes, windsor & newton series7, monument pro sable, da vinci maestro, squidmar MK I, and more!! I even tease a bit of how to clean a dirty paintbrush ;-)
    Most of the sample brushes shown in this video were bought by me locally in the past week.
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    Disclaimer: two of the brushes which appear briefly in this video were sent to me as free samples by their distributor (monument and squidmar). I have received free samples from the army painter as well, but those samples do not appear in this video.

Комментарии • 856

  • @GoobertownHobbies
    @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +102

    I got the idea for this video from chat while hanging out on Twitch! I'm in the habit of streaming on twitch Sunday afternoons ~~ 3pm EST. See ya there! :-) www.twitch.tv/goobertown_hobbies

    • @panicbombarcade4283
      @panicbombarcade4283 9 месяцев назад +3

      I have been anticipating this since that stream! Bravo great video!

    • @davedogge2280
      @davedogge2280 9 месяцев назад +7

      hey Goobertown you mentioned that you restored some brushes using just 'rubbing alchohol' and the results looked decent. You got a video showing how you do that ?

    • @pepi560
      @pepi560 9 месяцев назад

      Remember: Dont do twitch kids

    • @fernandozavaletabustos205
      @fernandozavaletabustos205 9 месяцев назад

      Thank you for doing this buying / painting guide!!

    • @fernandozavaletabustos205
      @fernandozavaletabustos205 9 месяцев назад +2

      TIMESTAMPS for the paintbrushes' brands (I did not include prices, since those can change depending on the country you live and whether you are watching this video now or in the future):
      SYNTHETIC PAINTBRUSHES
      0:50 Eve Wand Makeup Brush (Disposable eyeliner)
      1:10 One Happy Choice - Size 00
      1:28 Plaid / Folk Art Golden Taklon
      1:53 Sax Optimum - Size 0
      2:54 Sax Optimum - Size 6 (for basecoats)
      3:12 Artist's Loft Vienna No. 1
      3:51 Army Painter Hobby: Highlighting
      4:19 Citadel STC Base S (for basecoats)
      4:51 Citadel Base S (small, blend of synthetic and natural hair bristles)
      NATURAL PAINT BRUSHES
      5:33 Army Painter Wargamer: Regiment
      6:30 Army Painter Kolinsky Masterclass (ideal for eyeballs)
      6:51 Winsdor & Newton Series7 - Size 1
      7:20 Citadel Artificer Layer XS
      8:15 Microscope examination

  • @DavidShirleyArtWork
    @DavidShirleyArtWork 9 месяцев назад +576

    I would absolutely love to see a video with your process of how you rehab those older brushes, they look great when you were done with them!

    • @frankbranham7404
      @frankbranham7404 9 месяцев назад +22

      Yep. Rehab and brush cleaning care tips/process would be priceless.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +155

      I intend on making this video for sure! The quick answer is rubbing alcohol to get the gunk out, and brush soap to condition them a bit.

    • @eduardorodriguezcorrea7386
      @eduardorodriguezcorrea7386 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbieswill try this

    • @berlinberlin4246
      @berlinberlin4246 9 месяцев назад +5

      +1 for a video about the brushes and/or? Paint rehab.

    • @fischziege
      @fischziege 9 месяцев назад +1

      Would also love to see Goobs work here. Midwinter Minis has a nice video on this, also.

  • @Rebecca-zj4wq
    @Rebecca-zj4wq 9 месяцев назад +193

    As a laboratory scientist, i just wanna say your slide prep is just fine.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +28

      so many air bubbles! ;-) thanks though, I appreciate it

    • @Rebecca-zj4wq
      @Rebecca-zj4wq 9 месяцев назад +30

      @@GoobertownHobbies if you're prepping more in the future, it can be helpful to touch down one side of the coverslip first, then drop it from that angle. Also "pre-cleaned" slides are rarely that clean.

    • @lukehill9934
      @lukehill9934 9 месяцев назад +26

      Also a lab scientist, and seconding this. You did fine. The really pretty slides you see in publications are the ones that turned out GREAT and got saved in a "fit for publication" folder somewhere, where the rest got turned into aggregated data and used in a graphical form. The stars really have to align just right for a slide to have no bubbles or other problems of any kind, and for the light to turn out just the way you want it.

    • @Sachaztan
      @Sachaztan 9 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah, in my lab we typically use a mounting robot for our slides but when you have to mount manually it never turns out as good as with the robot.

  • @ooll25
    @ooll25 9 месяцев назад +66

    The cats are on top form this episode

  • @Banshun
    @Banshun 9 месяцев назад +76

    My father trained as a sign writer back when it was still done by hand. I still have some of his fine detail brushes from the 1960s. He always said 'Look after your brushes and they will look after you.' He meant always keep them clean. I am often surprised at how many mini painters don't clean and store sable brushes after each session. My father also said professional tools don't make you a better artisan, but they do allow you to do the job with less trouble.

    • @matthewroderique7468
      @matthewroderique7468 9 месяцев назад +12

      As a signwriter myself, $28 for a brush is actually cheap, I myself own some $200+ brushes, I not only clean them regularly but also re-oil them, and some of my brushes are over 15yrs old and are still close to perfect

    • @Banshun
      @Banshun 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@matthewroderique7468 My late father would be happy to hear the craft still exists. Yeah. The brushes expensive to the mini painting community are not really expensive at all, and they can still last years with the correct care because we should only really be using them for the detail work.

    • @paintball582
      @paintball582 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@matthewroderique7468 I’ve never heard of oiling a brush. Would you mind explaining it? I always clean my sable brushes with Master’s soap after each use, but I’d love to step up my brush care.

    • @BalooSJ
      @BalooSJ 9 месяцев назад +4

      I feel that a good brush raises the ceiling of what you can do, but if you don't have the skill to take advantage of the increased quality it's not going to help.

    • @matthewroderique7468
      @matthewroderique7468 9 месяцев назад

      @@BalooSJ great point, yes I still have cheap brushes but for high end work a good brush is essential

  • @PerfectionHunter
    @PerfectionHunter 9 месяцев назад +27

    People within Games Workshop have revealed that GW-brushes are in-fact just rebranded Winsor & Newton brushes.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +7

      ah yes! I remember hearing that. This makes sense, they even come in the same plastic tubes! :-)

    • @batmandalorian5504
      @batmandalorian5504 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah that "lead bristle" on the GW brush is common in W&N brushes as well.

  • @reneg8
    @reneg8 9 месяцев назад +48

    For content: Could you test the adage (that for example squidmar is saying) that you should use cheap brushes for metallics, because it messes them up or destroys them for other non metallic color use? I think the microscope could be very beneficial here. Testing old wifes tales as an idea, or like hobby myth busters.

    • @niall142
      @niall142 9 месяцев назад +2

      I'd love to see that!

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 9 месяцев назад

      Metallics apparently contain very large pigment particles, and from my experience, they dry and goop up the brush very quickly and are quite difficult to clean. I can’t say if they do lasting damage to the brush, but you don’t want to get them up in the ferrule, as that will be very hard to remove.

  • @SentientTent
    @SentientTent 9 месяцев назад +21

    I'm a traditional painter, and this is probably the best video ive seen on brush comparisons. Really knocking it out of the park here on how the different brush fibers interact. might need to pick up some of those $0.07 brushes for single use fine detail work.

  • @Finkeldinken
    @Finkeldinken 9 месяцев назад +10

    YES, some OG Goobertown nerdery! This is my kinda shit. And I know some watercolor artists who will love this one, so I'll get sharing. ❤

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      yay!!! thank you finkel pruh!

    • @Finkeldinken
      @Finkeldinken 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GoobertownHobbies I got you, little brother 🥰

  • @JaapZeldenrust
    @JaapZeldenrust 9 месяцев назад +2

    I get the impression that brushes marketed as specialized tools for mini painting generally give you less value for money than brushes from non-specialized brands. It does make sense economically, as they operate in a space where there's less competition (game store vs. art supplies store) and they do provide some value for the buyer by explicitly informing them that a specific brush is suitable for the intended task. If you're going to be painting base coats, a brush that's marketed as being good for base coats is probably a decent choice. It might be functionally identical to a no. 5 brush from a general brand that 30% cheaper, but if you don't know enough about brushes to tell that they're basically the same, you might want to pay the extra 43% to be able to stay in the store where you just bought a mini and not run the risk that you buy something that just doesn't do what you want it to.
    It also fits my anecdotal observation that many people switch to general art brands once they have enough experience to know what they're looking for.

  • @benjaminrogers8875
    @benjaminrogers8875 9 месяцев назад +17

    Need that scope to paint eyes.

    • @comlitbeta7532
      @comlitbeta7532 9 месяцев назад

      Only the bad workman blame his tools

    • @photonfartsqueeze6694
      @photonfartsqueeze6694 9 месяцев назад

      Your hand movements wouldn’t be fine enough for it to work. You’d barely move your hand and you’d have the brush totally out of frame.

    • @thecuriousboardgamer
      @thecuriousboardgamer 9 месяцев назад

      @@comlitbeta7532Excited to see your video painting minis with a 2" flat nylon paint brush from Home Depot. ;)

    • @avinashtyagi2
      @avinashtyagi2 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@comlitbeta7532 That's only true to a certain point, if your vision is weak for example, then you certainly need good tools to make up for it, such as a magnifier and probably a good pair of glasses, regardless of your overall skills.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +2

      I'll try it someday for lols :-)

  • @Garrth415
    @Garrth415 9 месяцев назад +6

    Stuff like this is why I love Goobs, just a quick interesting dive into something a lot of us wouldn't think of.

  • @arlenneylon4755
    @arlenneylon4755 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing like some sweet hobby science to get you ready for the week.

  • @Bodkin_Ye_Pointy
    @Bodkin_Ye_Pointy 9 месяцев назад +11

    Here's a tip for your tool box/ For clipping off those errant strands of fibre on old brushes, use nail clippers. The curved shape of the blade allows you to be selective about the strands you want to clip and they are sharp enough to take that fibre out.

    • @DaniCal1forn1a
      @DaniCal1forn1a 8 месяцев назад

      Ahhh yes this is such a good tip! I use some cuticle nippers myself, the pointed end and plier-like grip I can hold them with means I can be super precise 😊. I also like to gently grab the rogue strand with tweezerman pointed tweezers to isolate it and make sure I'm not catching anything else - cheaper tweezers would probably be fine but I only buy tweezerman ones because they stay really sharp while also being grippy enough because of the shape of them I think? The point is very precise but the inner surfaces are flat against each other when you close them so you can get hold of really fine hairs/fibres without just chopping them like I've found cheaper tweezers to do 🙃

  • @dances4980
    @dances4980 9 месяцев назад +40

    What a fantastic video! Educational, entertaining, and original also? meta breaking.

  • @defenderfortheEld
    @defenderfortheEld 9 месяцев назад +13

    I really appreciate the scientific approach to this question. I have constantly asked myself if I was going about things the wrong way preferring synthetic brushed(mostly for the cost point). I also really appreciate you saying the brushes that you use the most!!!!

  • @Mr_Tovarish
    @Mr_Tovarish 9 месяцев назад +1

    Actually the most useful video on brushes of all time

  • @MrMxyzptlk5
    @MrMxyzptlk5 9 месяцев назад +31

    Always such a pleasure to get the notification for your videos. They cut through the noise of a lot of hobby content by being informative, non-clickbaity and full of personality, truly in a league of their own.

    • @theandf
      @theandf 9 месяцев назад

      Agreed about the rush of seeing a notification from Goobertown. I also think it helps that he doesn't flood us with updates just for the sake of it; you know when there's an update that it's going to be high quality.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +6

      awww, thanks for hangin out! 🙂

  • @Ainar86
    @Ainar86 9 месяцев назад +5

    This was awesome! And just to explain that feeling of strength you get from natural hair, the reason for their durability is elasticity coming from the layered structure. The synthetic strands are made from nearly uniform material making them inherently more susceptible to permanent bending and breaking.
    Now there is a company called Escoda that claims to make synthetic brushes that perfectly replicate behavior of natural hair but I have yet to try them as they can cost as much or even more than sable.
    Also, my favorite brush so far is Raphael 8404 size 4, I highly recommend that series.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      that's really cool! now I want to buy a more expensive microscope and start looking at cross-sections of hairs and bristles :-) Thanks for the information, I'm really curious about the advancements in synthetic brushes!

  • @antongunther3977
    @antongunther3977 9 месяцев назад +31

    I bought like 100 synthetic brushes for less than $10. They are great for base coating (you dont generally need precision) even when their tips start to bend. They are also great for paints and effect paints that you dont want to expose to your nicer brushes (texture paints, rust paint, oil, ect). Everyone should have at least a pack of these as sacrificial brushes.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +2

      yupyup, synthetics are perfect for basecoats!

    • @lukastemberger
      @lukastemberger 9 месяцев назад +1

      And also, you avoid cruelty to animals.

  • @PhYnKL
    @PhYnKL 9 месяцев назад +1

    Goobertown doing the hard work to dig up the answers we didn’t know we needed. Thanks, Brent!

  • @the.witch.of.november
    @the.witch.of.november 9 месяцев назад +1

    Gotta love the orange floof trying to get pets while you were filming this 😍

  • @DanteMac26
    @DanteMac26 9 месяцев назад

    So I'm guessing we're looking at paints next? You could probably even do different episodes for different types of paint. A video for oil paints, an acrylics episode, washes, metallics, panel liners! The list goes on and on!

  • @TheBod76
    @TheBod76 9 месяцев назад +19

    Great video!
    I would love to see you paint on a plastic sheet under the microscope with different brushes!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +12

      This is a good idea- actually I bet it would be easy to just paint directly on a glass slide... I bought a box of 100, gotta do something with the rest of them! :-)

    • @jasontrinque
      @jasontrinque 9 месяцев назад +7

      @@GoobertownHobbies You should look at how different paint finishes (matte, satin, gloss) and primer are under the scope. Great Video!

    • @geosyrrus6423
      @geosyrrus6423 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@GoobertownHobbiesI'd be especially interested in seeing paint bead up on over-primed surfaces vs a proper coat. Or maybe the difference between air brush vs hobby-specific vs Krylon.

    • @Shiftarus
      @Shiftarus 9 месяцев назад +1

      Awesome idea

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 9 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you for doing this buying / painting guide!!

  • @derekgarcia3069
    @derekgarcia3069 9 месяцев назад

    The extreme closeup of both hairs, combined with the side biy side of the older brushes before and after cleaning, was really striking.
    A very "ah ha!' Moment in the difference between the two.

  • @sciencegeekgrandpa8
    @sciencegeekgrandpa8 9 месяцев назад +1

    my favourite kind o' Goobertown video. I do love me your hobby science!

  • @ImaginerImagines
    @ImaginerImagines 9 месяцев назад +3

    This was so educational. As a miniature painter for years I'd heard that natural brushes were better, and now I see why.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      kinda cool to see, right? :-)

    • @ImaginerImagines
      @ImaginerImagines 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@GoobertownHobbies Heck yes. Again thanks. It will definitely factor into my next brush buying decisions.

  • @dave_s_vids
    @dave_s_vids 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love my W&N Series 7 brushes, they just feel soft and delicious to paint with :D

  • @sushimandaddi
    @sushimandaddi 9 месяцев назад +4

    You can get the sax green brushes from a school supply wholesaler in the US for ~.50 each! Give it a quick goog

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +2

      that's who I order from, in the ~6 packs they come out closer to 90 cents... but maybe the price wanders a bit?

    • @sushimandaddi
      @sushimandaddi 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbies It could very well differ by size and time of year for sure!

  • @mattratcliffe2181
    @mattratcliffe2181 9 месяцев назад

    I love how we can take a nerdy hobby and make it even nerdier. It amazes me where my attention will be pull.

  • @harkejuice
    @harkejuice 9 месяцев назад +8

    I was a huge stickler for cheap brushes until I ran out of brushes that didn't have hooks in them and noticed my one regiment Army Painter brush still had a pointy tip for a bit after it was cleaned. I eventually caved and obtained a W&N Series 7 and I'm blown away at how durable and responsive it is. Going to have to crunch out some more commissions to afford some more ha!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      that regiment brush was a surprise. I've used several of them, but never really appreciated them until I put it under the microscope!

  • @MikeNmurdoc
    @MikeNmurdoc 9 месяцев назад +1

    I really appreciate kitty's dedication to science! Awesome vid as always

  • @brianrussell3356
    @brianrussell3356 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hell yeah man, bringing the science to mini painting. Love it!
    See ya in Texas next week!

  • @peacemaker00
    @peacemaker00 9 месяцев назад +2

    Ive had huge success with W&N series 7 and Raphael Kolonsky sables both have lived through years of punishing use.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      good to know! thanks for sharing your experience :-)

  • @kleinerfisch43
    @kleinerfisch43 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for doing the hobby sience for us, very informative and easy to understand ... really appreciated 😊

  • @Jonas_Fox
    @Jonas_Fox 9 месяцев назад +1

    You're doin the lord's work. Thanks Brent. ❤

  • @will6258
    @will6258 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love this. As others have said, would love to see your routine for both caring and rehabbing brushes. Thanks for the video!

  • @boyfrog5809
    @boyfrog5809 9 месяцев назад +1

    the cats, the topic, that was awesome. you always bring great ideas!

  • @ClaytonPajot
    @ClaytonPajot 9 месяцев назад

    I'm really loving the deep dives into the science and finer physical details of our mini painting hobby.

  • @dasniveau9933
    @dasniveau9933 9 месяцев назад +8

    I love your painting science videos. These scratch some itch for me. Could you show us your deep clean routine? I might save some brushes from my "rough up or let my child use" pot.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      indeed! time for us all to do some deep cleans 🙂

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbies , my niece (11-12 years old) paints a lot but she does NOT take care of her brushes. It hurts to see the state they are in.

  • @Heyas10
    @Heyas10 9 месяцев назад +3

    Such an awesome video, felt like I really learnt something there!

  • @kevinsoney3051
    @kevinsoney3051 9 месяцев назад +1

    Our hobby is pretty from the get go. This even more geeky. I Love It. Science. Knowledge. Fun.

  • @dinahfromkabalor
    @dinahfromkabalor 9 месяцев назад +4

    If you'd asked me "what would you like to see in hobby videos?" I would not have said this.
    But when you ask "do you want to watch a Goobertown microscope exam of brushes?" the answer is "OH HELL YES, right now, please!!"

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      hehehehehehehee :-)

    • @dinahfromkabalor
      @dinahfromkabalor 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbies You in full science mode hits that same spot as those video tours of pencil making factories. Ahhhhh... 🧘

  • @ChaptermasterGordian
    @ChaptermasterGordian 9 месяцев назад +2

    Brent do a video about surface structures of the different materials minis are made of under the microscope, metal , different plastics, resin, etc that eould be interesting especially how primer adheres or even fills up irregularities on the surface. You could even do microscopic imaged of different painting methods, washes, blends, drybrushing, layering, stippeling, etc. You just opened a whole new range of videos for your channel.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      dang that's a good idea!! texture of primers... hmmm yess...

  • @M3Studios
    @M3Studios 9 месяцев назад +1

    Imma remind you from our painting faces class that you don't need a smaller brush for painting eyes, you need a brush with enough belly to keep the paint active and have a good tip.
    You are really going to love that WNS7 and I bet it'll be your best brush for painting eyes from now on.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      Hehehe thanks for all the tips!! :-)

    • @M3Studios
      @M3Studios 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GoobertownHobbies thanks for all the super informative videos! Loved the approach to this one, a really good study on brush fiber.

  • @chaoticpainting1507
    @chaoticpainting1507 9 месяцев назад +2

    Brent strikes again! Love how you approach the hobby with a scientific mind to provide to us amazing information that we can't find anywhere else but here! Thanks for taking the time to investigate the brushes and the treasure trove of information you've provided!

  • @stephenx2857
    @stephenx2857 9 месяцев назад +1

    i love the shots where the cat is intently looking at the brush or what's going on under the microscope.
    would lay odds there's an out take or two of little kitteh paws trying to bat the brush off that little holder.

  • @theandf
    @theandf 9 месяцев назад +1

    Halfway through the video, and I gotta say: I admire what you do. Science applied to finding truths and myths about our hobby. Like the thing you did a while back about the relative usefulness of priming (I quote it everywhere and people still resist believing in a result demonstrated empirically). This about brushes is illuminating (it also shows that, like with wine, more expensive is not always better). Please keep uploading this kind of videos, they are very enjoyable!

  • @aaronbono4688
    @aaronbono4688 9 месяцев назад +1

    Always providing a fresh perspective on an old topic. Thanks so much.

  • @Beniah107
    @Beniah107 9 месяцев назад +2

    Your lab assistants are great. 😼

  • @itsjustbrodie2681
    @itsjustbrodie2681 9 месяцев назад

    Echoing the many people who want to see your brush restoration methods. Especially with your approach in videos like this, I think it would be really helpful. And there are a lot of products on the market recently but it's hard to find reliable info on any of them, let alone if they're necessary or better compared to something that might be cheaper and more accessible

  • @michaeltribou4261
    @michaeltribou4261 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the deep dive on the different types of brushes

  • @Sluggernaut
    @Sluggernaut 9 месяцев назад +1

    A new video just in time for my birthday! Thanks!
    Edit: This was great. Even if the information isn't super scientific, it's helpful.
    How were those brushes restored?! Wow!

  • @mjpete27
    @mjpete27 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hullo Brent, I still have a Kolinsky Brush my Gran gave me before she passed away. I use it for watercolor painting and it is 50 years old! It is a size 12 and just keeps going and it is because she and I keep it clean and never sitting in a glass or container of water! Masters Soap and brush cleaner is the brand I use, but I have used several over the years and most do a very good job as long as you are kind to your brushes! I have tried several synthetic brushes over the years and in the past 10 years or so they have greatly improved! There is even some new mixes of natural and synthetic hair brushes that work as well as full natural hair brushes! Some Artists say they are better as the synthetic hair had good retention properties that some natural hairs lacks. Wonderful video and I look forward to your brush cleaning video!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      That's so cool! I really want to learn more about what's out there for modern synthetics, hopefully they really do get better every year :-)

  • @schlitzie72
    @schlitzie72 9 месяцев назад +5

    great video, very eye opening. My take from this is that synthetic brushes are best for rough work (base coating, dry brushing, or using textured paints) while the natural brushes are better for more delicate work and fine detailing (painting eyes, panel lining, and such). I've kinda always had that notion, and this video further cements that. Of course your mileage may vary. Keep on painting bravely my friend!

    • @HeretixAevum
      @HeretixAevum 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah I think this is a good conclusion to make. I've only been in the hobby for less than two years so I've been using cheaper synthetic brushes and have been a bit frustrated at how the tips haven't lasted. Seems like it would be worth picking up at least one good sable brush for painting those smaller details. Some rubbing alcohol for cleaning, too!

    • @schlitzie72
      @schlitzie72 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@HeretixAevum of course one of the pros of synthetic brushes is that they are cheap and pretty easy to find in the wild

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 9 месяцев назад

      Very interesting observation!!

  • @oddmandrill1260
    @oddmandrill1260 9 месяцев назад +1

    just wanted to say i fell down a rabbit hole of your videos and i love it. i just recently started painting and your videos are great inspiration

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      welcome aboard!! :-) I hope you're having fun with your first models!!!

    • @oddmandrill1260
      @oddmandrill1260 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GoobertownHobbies im absolutely loving it thanks for the reply!

  • @RRonco
    @RRonco 9 месяцев назад +1

    This was spot on righteous fun up my alley on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
    I'm an ink grinder myself, and horsehair and badger brushes are more to my liking.
    I bet horse and badger hairs would look like garden hoses or inner tubes next to a sable hair under magnification 😅

  • @ovan2190
    @ovan2190 9 месяцев назад

    This is fascinating! It's always said Natural hair brushes are the better than synthetic. But until you get something like this video to show the difference it just sounds like a "this is better because I like it" but even just showing the difference between them makes the "argument" more understandable even if it's just based on the look of the brush
    Great video Brent

  • @Tewhill357
    @Tewhill357 9 месяцев назад +1

    This vis is really peak Goobertown.

  • @doomdog797
    @doomdog797 9 месяцев назад +1

    Artist loft black and yellow are my go to. Love em

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      cool! I've used a few of them and they're not bad... and they're locally available! :-)

  • @paladinpariah325
    @paladinpariah325 9 месяцев назад +12

    Years ago, I abandoned GW brushes for Windsor Newton Series 7 and my painting immediately improved.
    Never looked back, especially because GW stopped making my favorite drybrush like 15 years ago.

    • @Kafeenuk
      @Kafeenuk 9 месяцев назад +6

      The Citadel Artificer brushes are actually just rebranded WN Series 7s

    • @paladinpariah325
      @paladinpariah325 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Kafeenuk
      So when I abandoned GW brushes, they didn't sell an artificer brush.
      GW only had crappy brushes that lasted about 20 seconds before they splayed out and were useless back then.

    • @JayAdan
      @JayAdan 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@Kafeenuk They may come from the same manufacturer but they aren't the same brushes.

    • @jamesmaybrick2001
      @jamesmaybrick2001 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@JayAdan The folks up at Windsor and Newton make a lot of brushes for a lot of companies. Different companies will be ordering to different tolerances. Happens a lot in industry i imagine. Same goes for paints. The company making GW paints very likely also makes for other companies that you may prefer. Its a small world once you get out of the shop that sells paints/arts and crafts etc. The Channel Painting Phase has a great interview with a former GW highup/product designer. Very illuminating. Should be required listening really for anyone interested in anything even tangentally GW. My fave tidbit, the company that makes GW's retributor gold (literally best gold paint) also makes for Rolls Royce, but GW have it made to HIGHER specifcation.
      When you think about it it means that there are legions of Sigmarines out there with objectively higher quality paint on than the millionaires Rolls Royces do. :)

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love that yhis video is very informative, insightful and does not need a clickbait title!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      thanks for watchin! :-)

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@GoobertownHobbies you are welcome!

  • @adammoore251
    @adammoore251 9 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. As a man of science I can really appreciate it. You can see a groove down the sable hairs.

  • @chrisboyd4433
    @chrisboyd4433 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this. I think a brush maintenance and cleaning video would be helpful to your audience.

  • @andreacook7431
    @andreacook7431 9 месяцев назад +1

    You can (temporarily) de-hook synthetic brushes by holding them over the steam from a kettle while you're making tea. They go back to being hooked after a use or two though.

  • @rich347
    @rich347 9 месяцев назад +1

    Not only did I enjoy the premise and video, but CATS!!!

  • @theezekarion164
    @theezekarion164 9 месяцев назад +1

    Let's get down on that
    "GOOBERTOWN!"

  • @hauntswargaming
    @hauntswargaming 9 месяцев назад +1

    Interesting video Brent! I enjoy your scientific approach to hobby stuff!

  • @MentoliptusBanko
    @MentoliptusBanko 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is very interesting. Thanks for showing us this microscope images.

  • @StormBurnX
    @StormBurnX 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love when chemistry nerds talk about polymers!

  • @scottcary9260
    @scottcary9260 9 месяцев назад +1

    Always learning, it is cool to be a nerd. This is cool

  • @williambrown319
    @williambrown319 9 месяцев назад

    The other nice thing about those eye brushes, when they don't work on paint anymore, you get a bunch of pieces to build with after cutting off the dead brush. Makes great handles for swords and such

  • @Fallub
    @Fallub 9 месяцев назад +2

    Very cool video. Thank you.

  • @RuthlessMojo
    @RuthlessMojo 9 месяцев назад

    I have been using a digital microscope for my miniature painting for quite a while now. My microscope has a HDMI out so you can connect a larger screen. For the last year I’ve been collecting hobby gear to start my own hobby channel that will focus on budget diy hobby tips, advice and product reviews. It will also feature my own home brew recipes for paints and hobby supplies. Hopefully I should be up and running soon. Seeing this was very interesting as I have purchased over 100 brushes to compare. Great video.

  • @DauntlessPanda1986
    @DauntlessPanda1986 9 месяцев назад +5

    Great video. Synthetics have definitely come a long way to replicating a natural hair brush, but they’re not quite equal yet in my opinion. Would really appreciate a video going through how you restore and condition the brush as you’d give good insight into reasoning

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 9 месяцев назад

      It appears they can't completely avoid getting bubbles into the polymer mix in the extrusion process. If they can solve that, then they'd be much more on par. (Better quality synthetics get close to doing so.) It's the little bubbles that cause breaks or weaken things as the synthetic fiber narrows from being stretched out.
      If you look into how "wet spinning" works, then that likely gives a good idea of what is going on when they make the fibers.

  • @truesprue
    @truesprue 9 месяцев назад +1

    One of the best informative vids in this channel!

  • @omgitsbees
    @omgitsbees 9 месяцев назад +1

    I wanted to add to what you've said about things like the really bad GW brush with the tip; at first glance it may not seem like a big deal, but you will absolutely feel it when using a brush like that. It will be obvious in how the paint goes on your miniature and spreads around. When I was a much newer painter, I didn't know better and didn't understand the difference. A proper really good brush tip is so incredibly important.

  • @dodosh9444
    @dodosh9444 4 месяца назад

    I love your relaxing way of narrating these videos and the microscope footage is just amazing for these. Thank you so much!

  • @SJGvP
    @SJGvP 9 месяцев назад +1

    That was awesome! Never stop making hobby science videos. They are the best.
    Since a few years I've started using Chinese calligraphy brushes to paint my miniatures. And despite being dirt cheap they hold their points much longer than the synthetic arts and crafts brushes I used before. I'm not sure if the hairs on these calligraphy brushes are synthetic or natural. I would be interested to see those under a microscope if you can get hold of some.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      Oooh, thanks for the tip! I'll have to look into this :-)

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbies I second that request!

  • @dspartan007
    @dspartan007 9 месяцев назад +1

    awesome video, never saw something like this on any other miniature painting channel. Great Job.

  • @TheBunnan
    @TheBunnan 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video mate, keep up diving into the science behind our hobby :)

  • @legion1188
    @legion1188 9 месяцев назад +1

    The video I never knew I wanted, thank you sir !

  • @Deris87
    @Deris87 9 месяцев назад +2

    You're always bringing us novel video concepts that end up being very interesting and educational. Thanks!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      thanks! I gotta keep coming up with new ideas... :-)

  • @JohnMcGrewHealthPhysicist
    @JohnMcGrewHealthPhysicist 9 месяцев назад

    I'd love to see a video of a loaded brush applying paint to a miniature under the microscope, to see the fluid dynamics and forces involved in the capillary action and paint transfer, bristle deflection, etc. Also, a microscope close up of the soap and chemicals cleaning an old brush. Maybe a stress test to see how much pressure a bristle can take before it breaks or deforms, to help get a sense of manual techniques?
    There's a lot of invisible factors you could reveal by painting a mini and washing a brush under a microscope.

  • @lrstudio3221
    @lrstudio3221 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I'm a professional landscape, wildlife and portrait artist, and I've bounced around various brands and types of brushes for years and have finally landed on Rosemary and Co brushes. Great quality throughout their line.
    Now, while I don't mind paying a high price for a great brush (I regularly pay upwards of $100 for single brushes) I HAVE learned important lessons that save me money in the long run.
    First and foremost don't use expensive brushes for work that will never be seen. In oil painting as in miniature painting there is initial block in work that my clients never see. I have a set of decent but cheaper synthetic brushes that are used for laying down basic shapes and deciding on hues and values.
    This work is often the hardest on a brush so I keep to my cheaper sets for this. Later in the painting I bring out my finest Kolinsky Sables where their precision matters and can be noticed.
    The 2nd important lesson I've learned is that having an effective cleaning process is a must.
    I invest a good chunk of money in my brushes and I take great care to make sure they are well cleaned and maintained between use.
    I've some brushes that have lasted for years, and while natural hair will eventually loose their tips due to abrasion, if maintained properly they can be used very effectively as what I call support brushes. (For instance when I paint a cat's whiskers, I rarely am able to do so without wobbles here and there in them. To fix it, I use a nice older sable brush, fill it with mineral spirits and push the line of paint into a nice even whisker.)
    I enjoyed this video and have subscribed! Well done!

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +1

      Right on! Thanks for sharing your experience, this is super useful :-)

    • @lrstudio3221
      @lrstudio3221 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoobertownHobbies thank you, kindly!

  • @gregmccormack5709
    @gregmccormack5709 9 месяцев назад +4

    Very cool zoom in perspective!! Lots of knife sharpeners use these to examine edges, I have a budget version myself.👍🏻

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +2

      nice! It's fun, I gotta point it at some other stuff here soon :-)

  • @theChistu
    @theChistu 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is the best brush video I've ever seen and your research assistants are adorable. Can't wait to see what other use cases you come up with for the microscope!

  • @JasonTeach
    @JasonTeach 9 месяцев назад

    We really need more science based channels for miniature painting. There are 100's of video on blending, but only a few that explain why and how flow improver does what it does or examine brushes under a microscope.

  • @MrTudenom
    @MrTudenom 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for this. Looks like I’m going to add a few lines about brushes into my GW Book of Grudges.

  • @Mephiston
    @Mephiston 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'd love to see you use that microscope to show how brushes and paint interact with the model as its being applied, from regular paints, to glazes, and contrasts.

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад +3

      I'll have to experiment to see what neat stuff can be observed :-)

  • @aaron.h.paints
    @aaron.h.paints 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love the research vids. Great stuff Goobs!

  • @TheRedBard
    @TheRedBard 9 месяцев назад +1

    JUST bought one of these microscopes to paint with and while it didn't do what I wanted, it does what it does incredibly!

  • @JayAdan
    @JayAdan 9 месяцев назад +1

    The One Happy Choice brushes are my day-to-day workhorse brushes. I use them for almost everything. Learning to love cheap brushes really was a good move for me.

  • @jamesgherbaz7009
    @jamesgherbaz7009 9 месяцев назад +1

    This channel produces the best "Hobby Science" content. Interesting information, always positively presented and great reminders to think for yourself and remember the limited sample size/ scope of what is being shown. 10/10 work Brent 👍

    • @GoobertownHobbies
      @GoobertownHobbies  9 месяцев назад

      I'm glad you like this stuff! I love doing it, it's just a matter of me figuring out some cool things to show :-)

  • @DingoPaints
    @DingoPaints 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, its good to see the differences in the brushes.

  • @Shiftarus
    @Shiftarus 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good video, it was very nice of your cats to help out

  • @ThisReallyArmorsMyCore
    @ThisReallyArmorsMyCore 9 месяцев назад +2

    Trying one kolinsky sable brush to see if they were really "that good" and realizing how much better applying paint felt was heartbreaking. I wanted it to just be hype and marketing, but every time I used it and then tried my mildly used synthetics, I could just tell that the difference was huge and only going to grow.
    I really didn't want to buy more expensive brushes, but using the sizes I didn't have a nicer, pricier brush for became increasingly unpleasant until I couldn't resist it any longer.
    Also, your cats are lovely!

  • @toastboy6955
    @toastboy6955 9 месяцев назад

    I'd love to see how the same brushes bend with slight pressure under the microscope.
    Also seeing how they might hold paint differently could be interesting.
    Great video

  • @WenisTRON
    @WenisTRON 9 месяцев назад

    Great video, loved the work you put into this.