Who Is Gypsy Rose's New Mysterious Husband?
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Ethan is 100% right about how weird it is that the husband is getting in on all the videos. It feels very possessive to me... I hope she has found someone who truly advocates for her to become the best, healthiest version of herself on her own. Without any codependency, conditions or restrictions.
I agree 100%
I hope she leaves him soon. In that video of when he was picking her up from prison it gave me the absolute ick they way he was being creepy about stating then rubbing her thigh .... Watch it.... I think any woman would know what I'm talking about. There was no reasoning to say that at the moment he did & then the way he looked at her 🤮
I'm so glad ethan said it. The guy rubs me the wrong way. I watched a podcast they did and he interrupts and talks over her constantly. Talks FOR her too. Like bro, step back, this isn't about you.
@GracenLighteneD yes that video gave me all the bad vibes... I really hope I'm wrong but I just have an icky feeling.
@@legmcmuffinZI saw that too! I thought the exact same thing
It doesn’t make sense to talk about her like she was in her right mind. She was abused and psychologically tortured.
It also doesn't make sense to look past red flags and idolize people because it's trendy.
Yeah people always missing important nuance in these situations
The fact that they’re praising her and making her famous is crazy to me. I know she was abused but what she did still shouldn’t be celebrated
Yeah this is definitely something to consider
@@andreaperez1210I agree with you it does feel very strange to me. I’m glad that she’s doing well and people aren’t being mean to her online, but I also think the level of praise and the language people are using to praise her is so weird.
I am so happy Gypsy is free, but she shouldn’t be the next big icon. She needs to go live her life with some privacy, I have a feeling this publicity will only end badly.
It kinda feels like another “cash me outside” girl. Some people just do not need to be famous
Couldn't agree more.
I wish her all the happiness she deserves but I don't see it going a good direction.
Yeah I’m also scared of that.. We already know how many famous people get controlled, manipulated and used by people in the entertainment industry, I’m afraid they’re gonna do that to her too. She’s an easy victim for those sort of people, she just got out of jail. Her husband also seems very shady.
The crazy thing to me is that when you think about it, she’s getting all the money, fame, and attention from killing her mom that her mom tried to get from abusing her and parading her around as this extremely sick child. So in a way she’s accomplished what her mom set out to do to begin with. The dystopian irony in that is wilddd
That’s such an interesting point! I agree
The whole thing is gross. I'll never be in her shoes but I have a hard time believing she was in online chat rooms all the time with her then boyfriend yet somehow had no way out or anyone she could contact.
I don't blame her for being on social media because I bet she will have a hard time looking for a job with her criminal record. It's probably not good for her health to be on social media.
Spot on
@@jonna0900she was legally declared incompetent. She was trapped under the law.
It’s a messy situation, but the murder is quite understandable.
“She could’ve just left” bruh this is such a nasty take from Dan and Ethan I’m kinda shocked. She was a victim of heinous abuse for gods sake…
Well Dan is just learning about her case, so from his point of view “just leaving” probably makes sense. He likely doesn’t know all the details
i mean to be fair they’re not familiar with the case and olivia didn’t give much detail.
I agree such an irresponsible take :(
But Gypsy didn't kill her right which would have been okay the victim becomes Victorious. She manipulated a young guy on the internet to kill her mother when I'm sorry there were multiple ways she could have got out. Just like a lot of Munchausen by proxy victims get out I'm one of them my mother is still alive
@@brooklynsky7285Saying any victim of abuse should "Just leave" is incredibly ignorant, victim blaming and trivializes what they went through. Idgaf if he just learned about it, you don't tell a victim of abuse they "should've just left"
she had a 1st grade education, she was high on opiates, she BELIEVED she was at least partially sick, she knew her mom declared her unstable, she did not feel like she had any other choice. she WANTED to stop it, but how do you stop it when the murderer is there?
Her "wanting to stop it" is a stretch. She was part of the planning of the murder. I think all of the mitigating circumstances give reason to her second degree murder charge. But Godejohn did not plan this or enact it by himself.
Also that she had tried to run away before and her mum found her and brought her back. Along with that Dee Dee threatened all kinds of things if she told anyone the truth about what was happening. With the outside world Dee Dee had convinced everyone that Gypsy had an intellectual disability so even if Gypsy made it to the police it is unlikely that they would believe her and more believable that they would take her back.
So is she restarted?
Agreed. She lived in a delusional state of being where fact and fiction were blurred.
@@XVMAV I am assuming that you are trying to use the r word without actually using it. No she doesn't have an intellectual disability. Dee Dee told everyone that Gypsy does and combine that with all the meds that Dee Dee had Gypsy on she was zoned out a lot and so not able to work out what was going on for years
So here is what I have to say: if you restrain me, torture me, put a feeding tube in me, I run away and you find me, you chain me, you tell the world I'm mentally ill and can not do for myself, tell the world I'm nuts, change my age multiple times on my birth certificate, declare me incompetent, make me wear diapers as a teen, keep me high on meds, take me to the doctor and keep giving me undiagnosed illnesses, etc (I got more) I'd probably hurt you REAL BAD. I'm just saying.......when you back someone in the corner, they revolt. I hate that she HAD to do it, but seriously, her Mom was pure evil.
Who are her haters? Law enforcement? I DIEDDDD 😂😂😂😂😂
Who is this guy? I blurted out laughing too 😂😂
She TRIED to get away from her mother multiple times, idk why people keep forgetting that!
Without murder, what else then? 🤷♀️ Mom was literally SLOWLY torturing her to death (over 2 decades), isolated her, physically abused the absolute fu** out of her.
People need to stop acting like some people can be helped/fixed. Sometimes the only way for a menace to stop is when they breathe their last.
idk why you guys keep trying to justify what she did. even gypsy admits murder was not the way. she says that she could’ve called or emailed her biological dad for help. she never tried to do that even tho she had a lot of internet access. murder was not the only way. i think that gypsy really resented her mom and to some extent, the murder was out of revenge, not self-defense. she posted cruel, vulgar messages from her mom’s Facebook account shortly after the murder. there’s just so much proof that she didn’t just murder deedee as a last resort. she actually wanted her dead.
@@sophiaarias9341fair enough
@@sophiaarias9341 I completely agree!
@@sophiaarias9341we don’t justify, but we understand.. ofc murder isn’t right, but at the moment, it was her mothers life or her own. she was slowly getting killed and NO ONE batted an eye, doctors will give her pills/ surgeries that she didn’t need, a dentist extracted her teeth, she had documents going against her word, everyone believed she was sick. she’s allowed to resent her mom, she was allowed to be angry! but murder? ofc not.
it was self defense, even if gypsy might’ve done it w a murderous intent, her mom would abuse her, drug her, and manipulate gypsy until her unfortunate death. her mother didn’t care abt gypsys life, and it’s unfortunate that gypsy used this route to escape her abuse, but she did her time, and now she’s out. hopefully, she takes care of herself.
@@sophiaarias9341she posted those because of her remorse. She said in court that she wanted the message to sound like it was from the murderer. But she said she posted it so that they would find her body. Honestly she would have gotten away with it without those posts. She probably didn’t understand the IP adress was traceable but maybe she did. She never tried to lie once she told the truth to the police from the beginning. And it is understood that Dee Dee most likely killed her own mother. Murder is wrong in any case. But this case seems to be “eat or be eaten” if Dee Dee hadn’t died Gypsy would have. And Dee Dee 100% would have gotten away with it. Gypsy felt trapped because Dee Dee had everyone so fooled and she had full control over her adult daughter. She tried to run away at 19 and her mom dragged her back and told everyone she was a minor. The only thing she could have done was ran away FAR like to another state and changed her identity so her mom couldn’t find her. But that would be impossible to do in reality. Murder is wrong and I’m sorry Dee Dee is dead. But I do feel for Gypsy. What else could she have done? Realistically what other choice was there.
I don't think it's fair to blame her for the media attention she gets. It's not up to her if people are watching the stuff she does. And she was abused and isolated for her entire life, and is now an ex convict how exactly will she earn a living or get a job?? It just seems like she's making the best of a shit situation
lol it is up to her. she’s the one posting on social media and going on a press tour. her husband literally brought a camera crew when she was being released from prison. she has no intention of living a private life.
and although it’s difficult, i know many felons with blue collar jobs. she has plenty of options besides trying to be an influencer.
@@sophiaarias9341Your ignorance is sad.
@@sophiaarias9341 she was already a well known individual prior to being imprisoned. Her mother dragged her to interviews, talk shows, etc.
At this point it's the only way for her to make a living. She has no education, no skills, no work history. Wtf is she supposed to do besides make a living off her story?
Ffs there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. So get mad at people who are actually causing harm with their platforms. Like her mother did for HER ENTIRE LIFE
@@unreasonablyagreeable1081she actually has a GED
can we just leave her alone? what’s america’s obsession with turning everyone into a celebrity?
She doesn't want to be
EXACTLY!!!
It’s BIZARRE
@@kicobryshe doesn’t want to be???? Hahahaha how can you say that?
@@Britty0189 they say it in the episode, she's going on TV shows, wrote a book, is working on another show/documentary. it's not wrong for her to be doing those things, to be clear, but it shows that she's interested in being in the public eye.
after trying to leave she was beat, handcuffed and dog leashed to a bed, starved, not allowed to go to the bathroom for 2 weeks. I'm sick of hearing people shaming her for not leaving the 'right way' as if any authority figure had helped her up until this point. You know the police would have just taken her back to her mom.
Yes. And if she had contacted her bio dad for help, he would have came and Dee Dee would have had him trespassed or gotten a restraining order. It just isn’t feasible. This is such a unique case.
it really sounds like victim-blaming, like when somebody's being abused and they get the "why didnt you leave" shit. Its gross I'm sick of people shaming her for not leaving when its never that easy.
People don’t realize how munchhauseans by proxy is an extreme and severe form of child abuse. She was killing Gypsy. If Gypsy didn’t get out, I am sure she wouldn’t be alive today. What she did was self defense, and she was not at all in a healthy mindset.
i am team gypsy 100%. she had no other options. remember this girl was DRUGGED like crazy, teeth taken out, tied to her bed for days, being bound to a wheelchair even having medical professionals believe her crazy mama over HER? deedee was killing gypsy so it was simply self defense. i agree with ethan’s statement “the murder we love”😂
Didn’t she have her salivary glands removed as well and a feeding tube placed? She was told she couldn’t eat, that she was gonna die etc
@@colourfulsouls YES! just the worst imaginable stuff possible:(
@@colourfulsoulsyes and that caused her teeth to rot..She has to wear dentures from losing so many teeth. So evil! Her mother put numbing gel on her mouth to make her drool in front of doctors.
I think there were other options but I understand how she didn't think she did. Thats why it's good she's telling her story to raise awareness.
she definitely had other options……
just saying…..
I worry about her… she’s gonna need so much therapy and help from everything she has been through!
She’s had so much therapy in the last 8 years of prison
@@emmaolivas4005prison therapy is not the same as high quality, intense 1:1 therapy that she needs. In jail, she said she did not want counseling and did not think she needed it.
@@emmaolivas4005 Therapy in prison?! They don’t have that type of therapy available in general in prisons. Group therapy is really not up to par. Plus she’s literally endured every type of abuse as well as death and prison. She’s gonna need intensive therapies on and off for her entire life most likely. Otherwise it could really go bad. The types of trauma she has are so deep and it’s all she’s ever known. Her entire foundation is messed up from non stop abuse of every kind imaginable.
She had group therapy in prison and a condition of parole is to be enrolled in one on one trauma therapy.
She has to choose to go to therapy.
Dan saying "shes 18 she can just leave" MEGA YIKES.
Haven’t been watching for a while and this is the video that I come back to im like lol why would I watch this anymore. I really want it to be good but h3 everything is a miss for me recently
Dan is right
@XVMAV legally yes, mentally, physically, psychologically, it's a different story. It's like telling an abused wife to just leave. Well duh. But there's a reason many don't. Psychologically it's very very difficult to. Gypsy was mentally and physically tortured.
he dtm sometimes like he is such a man im sorry
This is just dumb logic, sorry. She tried to walk away, but was punished for it in ways we can’t even imagine. Also Dan, her mom never told her she was an adult. Gypsie thought she was a minor. It’s way more complex than you’d think.
This whole situation is weird and we are pretending like she can handle this level of attention and fame after having barely any therapy in prison. And she has been with this man, in person, for like 15 DAYS.
I guarantee neither of these people are mentally stable and the media shouldn’t be exploiting this girl. She said when she was in prison she did not want or think she needs any counseling…. I don’t think she has every mentally grown past the age she went to jail as and she was mentally and emotionally stunted to begin with.
She is the only surviving victim of Munchhausen by proxy and she only survived because she killed her abuser. I really don’t blame her and I’m glad she’s free
This isn’t true, there are other children who have experienced it and survived, because Drs recognized it and stepped in.
She is the only survivor of MBP that survived by murdering her abuser. There are many other survivors
Oof bad take
She didn’t kill her abuser she coerced a man to kill….
Just because y’all haven’t heard of gypsy until recently doesn’t mean all of us found her due to the The Act or HBO Doc. I’ve followed her story since the day she was arrested. If you know her story.. you know she should’ve never been in prison. That’s why so many people were waiting and counting down her release. Also, Ryan gives me the ICK. he seemed like such a good, nice guy at first but now he freaks me out. He wants the attention. I think he’s using Gypsy.
I discovered her story from true crime videos years before The Act. Her story is such a massive tragedy.
@rachelhansen2417 I too, discovered her story because of true crime videos.
Deedee actually killed her sister in law. She poisoned her with roundup and she died a slow painful death. It’s in the lifetime doc
i believe it was actually her step mom.. after her mother passed her father moved on relatively quickly and that infuriated deedee. gypsie seen the roundup and told her grandpa that’s the vitamins my mom gives grandma lorraine.
@@0hhannah ah okay, you’re right. I got confused because she mentioned it when seeing the roundup in grandpas garage so I assumed someone in that home was being poisoned. But yeah she ended up passing away slowly so it matches up with being poisoned which is crazy.
@@0hhannahdidn’t she also contribute to her own mother’s death? I remember in the Mommy Dead and Dearest documentary it being implied that DeeDee was starving her mom until she died
Yes... Dee Dee poisoned her own Mother.
Ngl I got kinda mad at Dan when he was talking about her killing her mum wasn’t the only option. She tried to run away, but her mum caught her. DeeDee made everyone believe she is intellectually disabled, had the brain of a 7 year old. Gyspy was abused, physically and mentally. None of us would be surprised or even say that to someone who escaped domestic abuse. Murder is never the answer, but it was the only thing Gyspy could do. Her situation was either kill or be killed.
I think it’s very sad and weird how people can’t seem to grasp just unfair the situation was. People tend to forget how easy it is to influence a child into believing something. That’s why they’re so easily taken advantage of and exploited. Why parents need to protect them from literally everything and anything. Children will believe anything their parents say because the parent to a child is their entire life. A mother could tell their child about Santa Claus and they will 100% believe it. A mother could tell their child that they are incapable of doing something because they are sick and they will believe it. The mother was already at an advantage with their community believing she was a good woman, nobody believed someone could lie about such a thing. Or even get away with it. Gypsy was already seen as mentally ill and incapable anyway, so even if she tried to get help anyone would immediately try and find her mother. Probably assuming she’s just delusional because of her “illnesses”. Same goes for police, nobody would believe her for a second. It’s so manipulative. And Gypsy knew her mother would get angry if she even tried to go against her and what she was manipulating Gypsy into believing. She couldn’t even be in a doctors office without her mother breathing over her shoulder, holding her hand with a tight grip. She was 100% trapped and manipulated to believe that she can’t be without her mother. She didn’t even know how old she was.. like how are people not able to empathize?
she could've started walking in front of her doctor
i dont think dan is victim blaming at all i think we need to be careful about condoning the murder of abusers. all that will do is wind up more victims in prison when they deserve support care and recovery, without the added trauma of blood on their hands quite literally. all dan was saying is be careful about being so condoning of MURDER. it's one thing to acknowledge that in her situation she was brainwashed abused and desperate so it SEEMED, to her, like the only option, but it's another entirely not to mention intellectually dishonest to say she ACTUALLY had no other choices and that alternative choices wouldnt have been preferable. even gypsy herself says this openly to this very day that there were definitely better options she should have done.
She lied about her age I believe gypsy thought she was a minor still
@@taylorfrink1182saying a victim "could've just left" is victim blaming no matter how you try to twist and turn it
Why does Olivia never know anything about what she’s supposed to be presenting lol
She's just there for the cheek makeup
noah fence but its horrid@@MOONSLIFE36
This really wasn't the best work for the powerpoint. There were so many important details that were left out that Lena was able to bring to the segment. There is a lack of effort here that Olivia tends to have with certain topics. Along with wanting to make Gypsy appear in a better light when it should be objective. The idolization that Olivia brought to the powerpoint is inappropriate considering that Gypsy was involved in the murder at the end of the day. Calling her a "queen" is no different than groupies idolizing serial killers, it's weird. I enjoy the powerpoints when there is a good effort in research and trying to state the facts. Lena did an amazing job with the Night Stalker ppt and I hope she is given more opportunities to present these types of topics. Sadly i think Olivia really wants to make the women be painted in a better light and her bias really brings these segments down.
kinda agreed untill u said calling gypsy queen is like idolizing serial killers, she’s innocent and was abused and it was her only way out honestly
I’m guessing it’s because of TikTok. Gypsy rose is huge on TikTok rn people love her and talk that way about her.
@@yomomma5629I completely understand that point. Gypsy did not deserve what happened to her and I'm glad that she's free from her mother. However, we can't just erase the reality that Gypsy provided murder weapons and asked Nick to kill her mother. She still planned a murder and shouldn't warrant idolization for committing a crime such as that.
Agreed! Even Gypsy doesn't give excuses. She is so self aware and accountable for her actions! She doesn't even blame her mother for the torture she endured, she blames the mental illness, that is some self-awareness she has for people who have said that she wasn't given a lot of education by her mother & tortured by her mother. IM sure if Gypsy watched this she would disagree with being called 'Queen'!!!
well gypsy rose isn’t a hot celeb so olivia isn’t very interested lol
Gypsy had a double life that she hid from her mom. When she "attempted" to run away, she conveniently left her phone behind, knowing DD would find it, hoping she would find it. She was codependent and thrived on the attention back then, just as she is now.
She 💯 had other ways out, she is just a sociopath and manipulated someone for over a year to kill her mom. Her communication with him is vile and shows how disturbed she is. She lied from the beginning and is still lying. HBO and lifetime documentaries dont match up, and if you pay attention to details, she changes the story.
Everyone around her is exploitative, along for the cash cow she is now. Her husband has creep factor. But, she is also manipulating even him. In the prison confessions, she says some crazy backhanded stuff to him to hurt him and to get her way.
She went through some horrific things, and I'm sympathetic. However, this media circus and influencer stuff is so sad. It is weird to see this phenomenon of a lying, deceitful person be so supported. She is just like her mom. She is doing exactly what her mom taught her.
She needs to remain in therapy. Eventually her social media status and supporters will fall back when her mask slips.
100% Agree!
She enjoyed being the victim
Getting all the attention and the gifts and opportunities. And now she is playing the same game again. All that girl had to do to prove her mom is a liar would have been to simply STAND UP in front of people and say " see I can walk!" Gypsy wanted to continue getting taken care of by those who felt sorry for her. She asked thar kid to kill her mom. She planned it all out. She made videos after thr murder joking about how her boyfriend was hungry after killing her mom, so he ate a snack cake and then she laughs and says
"Then he ate me!" She is a sick freak.
Now she is out of prison thinking she is a celebrity pimping out her 15 year old nephew on social media.
I'm telling you all, that girl is a rotten little weezer.
It’s been a minute since I’ve watched the pod… Ethan is a god damn skinny legend
He looks so much happier to 🥹
This turned into Wendy Williams there for a second. Big thanks to Dan for keeping Ethan on track.
She’s being paraded around the media like Kyle Rittenhouse was. Two different situations, but we shouldn’t be making people celebrities just for the fact they were a part of a horrible situation.
Ariana attempting to take Gypsy’s husband was not on my 2024 bingo card.
I do not think it was wise for her to get on social media right away when she got out. 1. Needing to adjust to the real world. 2. Getting to truly know her spouse. 3. Getting to reattach to her father, stepmom, and half-siblings. 4. The dealing with haters and what that itself would do to her emotionally.
It’s not like Gypsy was her moms only victim. Deedee’s own family accused her of killing her mother. Similarly to how she was slowly killing Gypsy
Her parole should have had conditions, she needs to be in therapy & not being an instant millionaire from being involved in the murder of her mother which she was convicted for. I think it’s going to end in tears .
Listen to Pat Browns (criminal profiler) open letter to Gypsy. She frames it as self-defense and her mother as a psychopath. It's a good listen.
No one find it strange how he said he thought she was cute so wrote to her...she was like a little kid..
Why are we acting like Nick manipulated HER into committing the crime? If she wouldn’t have ASKED HIM to do it, he would have never done it. Keep in mind, she was a very smart woman, hiding under that good girl disguise (yes, I say hiding. Have you SEEN the kind of things she was into? Like- BDSM. That’s no child.) yet she KNEW he was autistic. She definitely took advantage of that.
he wanted to kill and already had a history of breaking the law. not only did gypsy’s suggestion, out of desperation, excite him, he also wanted to rape and he did. he literally raped gypsy after the murder. oh but let me guess.. she manipulated him into that too???
she was introduced to BDSM by a guy online that she tried to run away with. she wasn’t previously into BDSM and has expressed her sex life was nonexistent during her childhood except for sexual abuse which is abuse not pleasure. yes he’s autistic but just because someone’s autistic doesn’t mean they can’t rape or murder. she was severely abused and if u worked from a trauma informed lens you would actually realize how easy it is to pick up on that when you watch any interview she’s done. the fact the ppl try to defend a rapist and solely blame gypsy is wild
@@lifeisabsurd0311 Let me guess. You watched The Act and think all of it is accurate 😂, without looking into it more. Gypsy TOLD the policeman that was interrogating her that Nick raped her but feel free to look up the video of them escaping. Yeah, okay, I’m sure he “raped” her. Get a fucking grip of reality for once.
I don't know how well Dan knows the case. Her boyfriend, who participated in the crime kinda got Fd. He's pretty severely autistic and HE was manipulated into committing the crime. The chat logs pretty much show as much and that's where the "haters" come from. She was first to talk. The autistic boyfriend kinda looks in shock throughout the entire process and now he's serving a life sentence.
His life is over. She manipulated someone with a disability into a crime then testified against him. I don’t think we can rule out that she was raised by a master manipulator and it has to have shaped her and her reasoning skills.
@blubayou22 Totally agree. It's so strange to see that fact being completely ignored by everyone. I mean to see her given some sort of celebrity status just feels wrong. I understand how brutal her life was, but everyone wants to just ignore the details. He was not some psychopath boyfriend. He's very much autistic and STILL didn't want to do it, but she kept on him until he agreed and it's just very sad to see when, just like you're aware of the details of the case, how does she get 5 years and he gets locked up and throw away the key. Very sad.
@@NateDawg920he has Asperger’s I believe but these points are valid. But In court, details came about that shows Nick was a danger to society. He had multiple personalities inside him (his words) and the bad one is the one who made gypsy create her own persona’s for his own sexual gratification. Not to mention the unrelated to Gypsy aspect where he was publicly masturbating in McDonald’s for 9 hours. He isn’t necessarily innocent. He probably was manipulated by gypsy but he could have blocked her at the first mention of murder. And he’s the one who wanted to r*pe her moms dead body. He’s mentally not all there, but he probably would have been locked away for something else without having met gypsy. It’s all very sad. But I think the judge was fair. But that’s just my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own.
We’ve learned nothing from the hatchet wielding hitchhiker….
@andrewrush354 are you talking about smash smash SMASH?
She put poop in her veins, I dont think the murder was unreasonable or unjust.
Imagine being pearl doing all you can to find a husband and then realizing Gypsy’s husband was waiting for her to be released 😂
I feel like this situation is so complex and layered, but if you take a look at it from a hostage/ prisoner situation any person with a will to survive would do whatever they could to escape that situation regardless of their relationship with the kidnapper.
i do find it weird that her husband now wrote her letters while she is in jail but having said that!! i will never make any decisions for her. because thats what her mom did to her.
I think her new docuseries should be watched, and research should be done before making comments. "She could just leave" its such a terrible thing to say about someone who's been abused their whole life. Clearly there is not an understanding of what that psychologically does to a person, let alone a CHILD.
Dan obviously doesn’t know the whole story. It was GYPSY who manipulated John into killing her mom because she couldn’t. He had a twisted sexual demon in him but it was Gypsy who wanted the murder to happen. Before the murder John asked “are u sure you wanna do this?”
If he was a psychopath he wouldn’t have questioned it! Even after murdering DEEDEE he regretted & cried so much! It was Gypsy that said “dont cry John. It wasnt your fault. It’s mines! It was my idea to kill her!”
Gypsy is a victim of her mom but not a victim when it came to John. How she was manipulated by her mom is the tactics she learned to manipulate John into carrying out the murder for her!!! She is a culprit the driving force for the murder, period!
“It’s easier said than done” thank you Ethan. Coming from someone who was abused growing up.. the only reason I got out was because I was malnourished and an acquaintance noticed and heard with her own ears some of the abuse and threats.. if it wasn’t for these strangers who fought harder for me than any family member ever did… the state was called so many times and they never did a thing. I would have never gotten out and I probably wouldn’t be alive today. Gypsy and I’s situation were different but similar and in her position I probably would have been driven to the same conclusion. To Dan. It sounds so much easier than it actually is. I still can’t function normally even ten years later I can’t imagine what gypsy is going through every day. Is murder wrong? Absolutely and gypsy should not be championed for the act. However I will be celebrating her freedom because I’m celebrating my own.
okay listen I know everybody really likes her husband and they want it to work out but I have a weird feeling about him and I'm just going to keep my eye on him.
He is a fucking freak lmao. Nobody who writes letters to killers in jail would do otherwise, ESPECIALLY considering the wealth of public information about her current mental state due to years of abuse. I will be watching too, no way this ends well.
you do not fucking know her. you sound just like deedee
@@Huge_Penguinokay deedee
@@sybill123ful girl, all I said was he's got a weird vibe. I only say it out of concern for Gypsy. she deserves happiness and loyalty and love. if he gives that, good! if not, then screw him. it's not that complicated. you're acting like you know me ??? you have to see the hypocrisy.
@@Huge_Penguin I hope it does end well, for her sake! she deserves happiness, but I'm still gonna keep reservations about him and hold some skepticism. you never truly know people's intentions. she's only been outside prison and with him for, maybe 2 weeks? it's too soon to tell, but let's hope for the best
So this guy seen a girl who was abused, mentally stunted and in prison for having her mom killed and he decided that she would make a great partner. Yeah great dude. I hate this world.
Yeah it’s an interesting point that i haven’t seen a lot of coverage on this mention. another youtuber i watch brought it up watching one of the couple’s interviews where her husband says he knew she was the one when he first wrote to her when she was in prison and it’s def weird that he was like yeah def, never met her or seen her irl and in the real world and don’t know her as a person but sure let’s get married
Am I the only person who thinks that it’s bizarre and downright crazy to idolize and praise someone who conspired in murdering they’re mother? It just rubs me the wrong way.
I think so too!! It's bizzare. She's a murderer
Agree and people calling her a queen or hero is so odd
I mean they wouldn't be if the mom wasn't a abusive pos. context is important
She definitely could NOT just leave Dan. She was being held against her will. Do research before you talk out of your ass
Some people say he resembles her mom physically and when I looked I was like wow she does
Nick wasn’t pressuring her!!! She made him her patsy. He had a iq of 70!
The Peter griffin comment…I can Not unsee it now!!🤣🤣
H3 is literally tmz at this point
Omg she true 😭
the funniest thing, tmz covered her story in entirety and way better too
she also said she wished she had just called her dad bc he would have gotten her out of there. dont justify what she did.
Ok but if someone killed someone out of self defending which is literally what happened but in this fake scenario, wasn’t premeditated, would you be so quick to judge that person who could’ve literally died if they did not kill the person harming them? Murder is still murder no matter the reason but not everything is so black and white. I believe sometimes murder is necessary depending on the circumstances. It’s not a good thing at all but she’s safe now and she served her time already. She’s dealt with the consequences of her actions and now she can finally have her life back. I think the argument over whether she should’ve done it or not isn’t relevant. It’s already been done.
It was not self defense.
@@Ausgar-yc1ylTrue! It was a desperate attempt of escape from a mother who did things of unthinkable evil upon her own child.
@@36vekhs Yes.
I’m really concerned with this situation. Her naivety combined with social media fame and a childhood where she was taught/shown how to navigate the world with pathological lying…. It’s a matter of time. I don’t know what’s gonna happen but I wish the entire Internet wasn’t watching.
A person cannot remain "naive" in prison.
This whole thing rubs me the wrong way. I don’t think she should be this huge celebrity. She’s fresh out of PRISON. She needs to stay private and heal.
As an autistic adult, I can tell you for certain that many doctors unfortunately automatically assume that people who struggle with communication aren’t capable of making their own medical decisions or knowing what’s wrong with their own body despite the person being completely of sound mind. Even if Gypsy had gone to a doctor on her own and tried to explain, she didn’t know what medications she was on, she didn’t know what age she actually was, they would have probably seen she had actual medical issues (that were caused by the prolonged medical abuse but without context that wouldn’t be apparent), so this wouldn’t have been a healthy young woman walking into a hospital and asking for help. She herself was convinced for years that she functioned mentally at a younger age than she was, it would have been so difficult for her to get even begin to convince any doctor that she wasn’t ill and wasn’t loopy, purely due to the fact that there was actual (incorrect and in many cases faked) medical records on file by the time she was actually trying to escape, which included the claim that gypsy had brain damage from previous seizures and wasn’t of sound mind or capable of making her own decisions. Even if she had escaped and made it to a medical facility, they would have most likely gotten the cops involved bc they would consider her a vulnerable adult, the cops would likely contact the mom and have her brought home and deedee would have just covered it up as Gypsy having an episode, maybe adult protective services open a case and check in once or twice, but it’s known now that her mom would drug gypsy when CPS came to make her appear extremely disabled and it worked, so who’s to say they wouldn’t have fallen for it again. I honestly believe if deedee was still alive gypsy rose would be dead.
She gotta be warned about the mcbrooms 😭😭😭
I think she did the right thing fighting for herself and her life by any means necessary. Sometimes there is shitty ppl in this world that leave us no other choice.
I don’t know what it is but something bad is going happen with this girl and her husband gives me the absolute creeps. He literally went after a girl that was abused by her mother for years and helped with her mother’s murder. She’s not naïve and stupid like the media likes to play out. She’s very manipulative and loves the attention.
And they just GLOSSED over the part where this man wrote letters to a convicted killer in prison. Very sane normal thing to do to fall in love with an abuse victim.
sounding just like deedee 🤢 she “cared” about gypsy as a means of control, you don’t know her. stop projecting onto her jsut like her god damn abusive mother did
And when did she develop these manipulation skills?? Her ma controlled everything she did, and bc she was so naive she thought the only way out was to kill her. Or in prison? Where you can't manipulate or control shit around u. Just curious when xx
@@ktmcgoogle7927 her mother was a master manipulator. She learned it her whole life.
@@Huge_Penguin and it was all part of a bet. And he tells the story like it's romantic. Like wtf??
While, this may have been done with good intention, acting, possessive and controlling over her, and who she dates, is exactly what her mother did
You cant blame her for wanting to be loved, her mom abused her, her dad abandoned her and had a whole other family
Exactly. People just go straight into judging her by the outside details.
@@Partycitybaex I feel like people from abusive households somewhat understand where she is coming from
She was in a cult of 2, her and her mother. Her mother made her a prisoner of her mind. I pray she had and continues to get the help she needs.
Not only did she manipulate Nick into murdering her mom... it's how she has no remorse or empathy for her role in murdering her mom and how she helped put Nick in jail for life.
She said that they both have to serve their time for their parts in her mom's murder. She said that she did her time and she wishes the best for Nick.
*** She said that Nick should have been more responsible and that it's not like she held a gun to his head.
If you listen to him talking 👄 you can tell that he is mentally disabled and i don't understand why Nick didn't have a lawyer present during his interview by the investigator.
Her mother changed her birth certificate to make gypsy younger and her mother had gypsy's power of attorney so no matter what gypsy was in a hard position and when you are in an abusive relationship no matter what the relationship its hard to see a way out.
He looks just like Gypsy’s mother.
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Jeez Dan is just completely oblivious huh
I’ll just say that’s she shows no mercy she takes no accountability and left her ex to rot in prison without taken any accountability yes she’s a victim but let’s not act innocent…
Did you hear about her x sending a newspaper a note with like 9 smiley faces in it saying he doesn't like all the attention Gypsy is getting and his story is coming out soon.
Every time Lena spoke, with only listening to audio, I thought it was Gypsy 😂😂😂
The second hand embarrassment is off the wall for me 😩🥴😂
Gypsy needs psychological help. First she kills her mother and then she marries her mother.
Correction, she was 23!!!!! Not 21! She could have most certainly left!
Zach losing his mind in the bg always sends me lmao
why do I keep thinking Gypsy is talking but it ends up being Lena
No. Gypsy manipulated him into doing that.
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So many messed up people in this space. Gypsy, her “husband”, her “team”… yikes…
She had time to meet a man online and plan a murder, but she couldn't contact many people and say hey my moms abusing me? She could have him come to the house and murder her mother while her mother slept, but she couldn't just run with the guy? I don't think this murder was excusable and it definitely doesn't fall under self defense when the victim was asleep.
Also which grandpa abused her? DeeDees dad? So maybe that's why deedee was so fucked too?? People forget, she was severely mentally ill. If anyone's to blame, it's doctors for not looking into anything and not doing their jobs. The fact shes now famous and rich off murdering her mother is insanity. This world is fucked. Quit worshipping killers.
Ethan's going full gossip blogger mode again
it’s olivia’s influence … he used to be a gossip vlogger for the internet now it’s celebs. 😐
I love offensive ethan
I honestly do not believe she knew another way, like literally because of the way she was raised. Now, she is making the most of her 15 minutes. I don't hate. I think most people would do the same.
dee dee was never officially diagnosed with munchausens by proxy, idk where that came from but she was never diagnosed while she was alive i think it was after
That's right👀
Nahhhhh Dan was so out of line… as a victim of abuse like this… YOU DONT HAVE OPTIONS!!
The jokes and punchlines aren’t worth it
Did everyone forget that the boyfriend killed the mother????
She literally did not commit a crime. She was the mastermind but she didn't carry out the crime herself.
The boyfriend got life in prison! No parole.
And according to her wiki page, Gypsy and her boyfriend immediately had sex after he murdered her horrible mom.
@@biteofdoghe r4ped gypsy after he killed her mom 🙃 apparently their powerpoint ignored that. nick was going to r4pe deedee’s corpse until gypsy “let” him assault her. stop spreading Bs
She DID commit a crime, she planned it for a year and got the weapon.
“Bowling for Gypsy Rose” is so funny
"I think we can say, murder we LOVE" - can't stop laughing, our edgy king 😂
She found someone with the same nose.
Chat is like "yaaas queen SLAY" but literally slay.
Gypsy's parents were together when she was born she was a toddler when they divorced
I’ve been waiting for Gypsy to get out of jail since I heard of the case back in 2016..
mad weird take and extremely fucked speculations to make about her husband. if y’all actually listened to her speak, gypsy herself said she wishes people would just let her live her life and that if she got married “too soon” then so be it. she had her ENTIRE LIFE controlled, and then y’all make judgments on her actions and disapprove of her relationship- just like her mom did. i see why people weren’t happy with this power point, it’s beyond botched
seeing stuff like this helps reaffirm the decision to stop watching this show. good riddance
also- speaking as someone with CPTSD no where near gypsys level, even i have gotten caught even deeper in toxic cycles because of third parties interjecting their opinion on my life; and feeling the need to prove to myself others don’t control me- because of having extremely controlling parents (again,not even close to gypsys mom). Just saying, making fun of and “offering’ unwarranted opinions on someone’s extreme traumas, typically will drive them further into the trauma and away from those that constantly have to say they care about her. Just food for thought t(ツ)_/¯
I think it’s a bit privileged to make judgements about what should have been done if you haven’t been a victim of abuse or survived domestic violence. Unfortunately, yes many survivors kill their abusers.
it’s like the band couple that breed in the hallway
I just don't wanna see her be taken advantage of again.
Her father was 17 years old when DeeDee got pregnant with Gypsy.
remember, you can’t profit off of your crimes while you’re in prison, which is why she waited to release this book and documentary and all this BS until she got out because now she can make money off of it if she really cared about sharing her story for prison reform purposes, she would’ve been doing that while she was in prison, but she couldn’t make money then. think with your brains guys. 🤦🏼♀️
It’s disgusting how you’re using your platform to justify her brutally killing her mother, this problem was complicated but murder isn’t okay.
“I’m living my best life and you can’t take that away from meeeee” …except she’s on probation and this can easily be taken from her if she slips up at all including having any alcohol whatsoever.
She us NOT on probation. Probation is only from jail. She was NOT in jail, she was in prison, she is on parole.
Blaming your audience for your ignorance on this topic… You’re so right men of this podcast, let’s just blame abuse victims and attack anything that makes them happy. Just beautiful.
Funny how you guys are the first to cancel people but you guys are literally bullying people you don’t know on the net
U GUYS R BEING OBNOXIOUS:
She was abused her whole Lyfe , She deserves everything
Her Husband is amazing
I agree that it is so strange how the husband is involved in everything. He doesn't seem to have his life of his own without her. I am sick of them both lol
Isnt it true her mom lied to her about her age n she didn’t know she was legally an adult until after the murder? Besides all the other physical/mental abuse, control n drugs she was under
I’m glad she’s out. Poor girl suffered so much that they handed her mother somebody you should trust.