The "protagonist is dead/comatose/dreaming the entire series" theories never fail at being terrible, unamusing, and often times nonsensical regardless of the franchise
I honestly just like the idea of Nega ben just being an emo version of ben, he was listening to Hawthorne heights on his Ipod before he found the omnitrix.
Too bad they didn’t use the OG Mr Smoothy mascot. If the theory was a fact, using the old design as a remnant of the original universe would be much more impactful. Heck, using the OG Omniverse design for Gwen could also work.
@@GoldPrince2468 That would be sick as fuck to whiteness and put the pieces together. But it would be clear instead of vague. This also takes away from the gag aspect.
I heard that high stress can cause one's hair to turn grey. And I imagine having to constantly save the world can be fairly stressful. So that could possibly explain why most future Ben's have grey hairs
Ben losing Feedback is the perfect reason for him to take off the omnitrix And I think Nega ben was just like Ben Prime but after he lost feedback that caused him to go emo and not good guy , making him Nega Ben
6:18 If it represented drugs then him getting Feedback back being the solution would be a very, very bad theme. Also, if Feedback was an allegory for drugs then it would be better for the story if Ben had Feedback and lost it at the end of the arc willingly in order to show that drugs are bad.
Friend proposed it's a trans allegory. Ben really felt good being Feedback but was constantly told not to use him too much (like society enforcing folks to so-called "social norms") until someone (Malware) finally decided to stop him from good. Traumatized by the experience, Ben disassociated and gave up on that but it wasn't until he forgave himself and found strength to face that trauma again that he became himself once more and turned into Feedback again, and since then, he's been using Feedback a whole lot more to the point that he was the one alien that was saved the entire universe at the finale
@Jaded_Jinx I'd say this point misses it's mark. Because from what I recall....the way they showed it is that ben has responsibilities as a hero. A hero should try and save people as best as he can. But ben using feedback was less about truly expressing himsekf and more about indulging too much in the power of that one alien. He didn't understand monderation
@@rushalias8511 it can just be interpreted in many ways what really made my friend and i agree on their theory is because Ben quite literally expressed that Feedback felt like he was a part of him, which he rarely expressed on most his forms, if any at all plus the problem of putting all his power into "one alien" too much also has flaws because he also always did this to Four Arms, yet this was never a problem nor was it discussed as much as Feedback
@dogegoodman2826 I don't remember where this was stated, but supposedly, Azmuth is too smart to be evil in every universe and realizes that that is not a viable path to take.
Problem is, We do have an explanation for the feedback case even if it comes out of the show, and it comes from Duncan Himself The Omnitrix fuses the alien dna with a bit of Ben's dna to keep his conscious functioning normally, with only 2 exceptions as far as we know, Ghostfreak and Feedback who are known as full blown aliens as said by Duncan The reason to why feedback was different is not only cause ben really liked the alien, but also cause it wasn't 100% himself, the conductoid DNA also had part of the control in a much less extreme Ghostfreak situation which not even Ben knows about as he can't explain why it felt different given the conductoid DNA never fought back like Zs'skayr
Unfortunately I'll have to debunk the Nega Ben 10 theory... really unfortunately, cause I like the theory. We actually know a lot about him, from Fans directly asking the producers. Here's what we know (all were noted by the Ben 10 Wiki): - Nega Ben likes kale chips and espresso smoothies.[DJW 4] - Nega Ben does not fight villains or use the Negatrix for personal gain.[DJW 5] In fact, he does literally nothing with his Negatrix.[DJW 6] - If Nega Ben had access to Alien X, he wouldn't even bother to argue with Bellicus and Serena. He would just mock or ignore them.[DJW 7] - If Nega Ben turned into either Rath or Atomix, he would retain his dour personality in either form.[DJW 8] - Nega Ben's version of Gwen is a cheerleader[DJW 1] with strawberry-blonde hair[DJW 9] of average intelligence. However, she acts less smart than she really is.[DJW 10] - Nega Ben's version of Kevin is pretty jockish, has bleach blonde hair, and is well-tanned. Much like his Prime Timeline counterpart, Kevin is dating Gwen.[DJW 11] - Nega Ben's version of Azmuth and the Galvan race were wiped out after the creation of the Negatrix by a rogue Celestialsapien coerced by Maltruant.[DJW 12] - Derrick J. Wyatt's favorite alternate Ben was either Nega Ben or Benzarro. However, his favorites changed depending on his mood.[DJW 13] - Nega Ben does not think Sumo Slammers are lame, but he only buys the expensive Japanese ones.[DJW 14] Even tho its all trivia, we do get some info on Nega Ben's universe, as well as confirmation that Gwen is still alive. No information on Max though, but I doubt he's dead at this point. Nega Ben 10 seems to just be a parody character, they wouldn't make some impactful backstory like that, as he's a walking pun with "edgy teenager emos" that were so popular at the time of Omniverse being aired... and as toxic as you'd imagine.
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Albedo is “corrupted”, his dna is flawed and stuff (don’t mind my tired brain typing) due to all that clone stuff in his first episode, that’s why, I thought. Never once heard the idea he’s “sick” Is this one of those “I heard someone say it in a comment” fun facts??
8:03 - well to be devil's advocate, Prisoner 775 did ask Ben to straight up kill him, which like, sure it isn't said explicitly but such deaths do unfortunately happen in real life
I have a theory that should be considered canon but the Ben 10 fandom can't seem to agree even though it makes perfect sense. Everytime Ben gets a new watch, that is when his future changes. Sounds simple and makes sense but because the OV future is supposed to be the same as the classic future, people think Ben 10,000 in the classic series is the same as Ben 10,000 in Omniverse, but also dismiss the idea that Ultimate Ben is the same as Ben 10,000 in either classic or Omniverse. While everyone can agree they Ultimate Ben is different from both versions of Ben 10,000 I seem to be the only one who thinks the two Ben 10,000s are different.
@@Geoemophobic no you and you alone can't read. Do some research atrocian, it's a known fact that the two futures are supposed to be the same which is why some people believe the two Ben's are the same.
@@RomaroBrandon then why don't you bring up the proof? you're the only person I heard saying that they are the same it doesn't even make any sense considering that there should be no new Omnitrix after omniverse so og Ben 10k's Omnitrix just doesn't make sense
@Geoemophobic if you were as smart as think you are you would read the part where I said 'Everytine Ben gets a new watch, that is when his future changes'. Other people (not me) say otherwise because according to the creators the OV future is supposed to be the same as the OS future. If you want proof, stop being lazy and do some research. Download the fandom app, type in Ben 10, then ask if they are meant to be the same. Better yet, go on Google and look up the Ben 10 timeline, then maybe ask your mother to read what it says since you're too illiterate to do so yourself.
why dont people understand that Ben seeing Contumelia as Mr.Smoothies is how Man of Action wrote Ben earlier? when he was in Rex's universe, the first thing he went to check on was the place Mr. Smoothies would be instead of checking on his family members or friends, infact Julie wasnt even mentioned
I mean the people in that universe weren't his family and he was concerned about his family back in his universe he was probably thirsty and his personality was changed to be more childish after alien force s2 finally because the network didn't want mature Ben they wanted 10 year old Ben so they stuck the 10 year old personality on him and dialed it to 11 in some scenes making him act worse than if he was actually 10.
@@N.I.A23The smoothie thing was a gag and not a compelling thing that added to Ben's character. Not not everything has to be super compelling or deep...but to have the most important thing to Ben literally being a smoothie place is just ugh
We do know that Nega-Ben's universe has a version of Kevin, and that he is dating Gwen. Derrick J Wyatt stated as such. Have a look at Nega-Ben's page on the Ben 10 Fandom wiki.
I remember when I first watched that scene when Feedback was absorbing the car battery I definitely thought they were gonna go for a addiction plot line
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the feedback is not the darkest thing a kids show has done but it feels too much like “thiiiis could be what’s happening” there’s no focus on him absorbing electricity and that being what ben likes about feedback to support it. if that was the goal it would be interesting but also not written well
Some people forget why characters like Albedo do a complete 180 from previous series to Omniverse it's because most if not everything Ben recreated as Alien X was done from his memory of everything including his Villains which means characters who had a chance to change didn't because Ben only saw them as Villains and that's what they became this gets backed up more because of Ben not getting a Mr. Smoothie flavour right which means he had control over what everyone was and how they live their lives and he might not even know it.
Yeah charmcaster even looks more like original series. It's probably the most recognizable look for her that's why it subconsciously made her look like that.
What if Nega Ben WAS a hero trying to live up to Max’s ideals. But became what he became out of pure apathetic loneliness..he got tired of it so while he was living up to Max’s slandered,it didn’t make him feel anything…until the forever knights. While facing them he accidentally kills one…it made him feel something. So now ALL of Ben’s villains are either dead,reformed out of respect or fear(Kevin,Argit,the rioters) and or not targeting earth due to the legends of the one who killed Vilgax. OH and he eliminated the plumbers out of spite that the one he was being good for (max) lied to him for 10 years. So yeah with Ben being the sole protector of earth and everyone being scared shitless of him it’s a relatively peaceful planet. The crime rate might as well be zero and the universe is safe cause most are to terrified to commit a single act of evil. Think of my Nega Ben timeline as the timeline from DCs Batman last knight on earth kind of vibe wise but instead of evil psycho Batman vs Batman clone it’s more Batman broke his one rule and couldn’t stop breaking it
4:53 that theory doesn't make sense both the parents of Ben and gwen aren't under the stress of saving the omniverse so it does make sense to have some gray hair
Yo , that’s mad dark 😢😢 I definitely agree with your nega Ben theory too and … it’s sad to think about , that’s why he always says whatever and doesn’t talk Much , because he’s still Grieving with the lost of the ones he couldn’t save Being his love ones like max and Gwen 😢 aka his father figure and biggest support
Since the series itself didn't delv much into the other Bens I have my own headcanons for em. Back in the classic series when Ben first met Kevin he was given the choice to join Kevin in getting the cash from crashing a money train into a passenger train. Our Ben didn't like the idea of hurting the passengers, but in other timelines they may've been more ok with it. This the start of Ben & Kevin's partnership in crime. According to my own headcanons, this timeline later splits again when someone approaches them to betray eachother. In the timeline where Kevin ultimately betrays Ben, Nega Ben is born. In the timeline where Ben betrays Kevin, we instead get Bad Ben. And for anyone happening to wonder, my headcanon for Benzarro is he's from the universe where Ghostfreak won at the end of classic season 3 and corrupted the earth where as Mad Ben came from a timeline where at the end of the Highbreed war Ben successfully destroyed that portal but it destroyed the earth and may've fried his brain a bit. Of course I'm sure creator statements contradict some of this. It is just headcanon after all.
If you notice the classic Ben 10k used xlr8 as his main alien of choice an alien species that ages at an extremely rapid rate only living for 6 earth days if I remember correctly and the only future Ben without gray in his hair is ultimate Ben a version of Ben who can use powers of his aliens in human form and the one who fuses his aliens ov Ben 10k has less gray than the classic Ben 10k. So the omnitrix is working as intended since Azmuth probably didn't make it so the omnitrix expands the life span of an alien species you transform into. Also don't we literally see the Highbreed who got "blown up" with the null void grenade in the season 2 finale of alien force.
4:18 you don’t get grey hair due to aging ,you get it out of stress ,and since Ben 10k is an addictive hero constantly in the move ,it makes sense why he has it
my personal head canon is that that soul, of each character just moved on to the new universe when it got created, their no evidence to back it up but let me cope
neither of gwens or bens parents had to deal with the stress of being a superhero since they were 10, the omnitrix rebuilds and mends bens body whenever he reverts to human so if anything ben would have the pinnacle of human health care, he will probably live way past granpa maxs age who was in the 100s in ben 10k due to the great breakthroughs of future medical science which ben probably doesnt even need cause his watch is superior to any tech weve seen and probably will see
Having Feedback be explained as an addiction takes away from how Ben just really like this alien. You can want to become a certain aliens a lot cus you like and not be addicted.
I’ve got one. It’s actually more of a fact when you think about it. Here’s mine: Ben didn’t save anyone. When he re-creates the universe, he makes an almost exact duplicate. So that means that his original universe was destroyed and everyone in it died. But that new universe that he made is a separate one from his original universe. So, in the canon of Ben 10, everyone died. Of course, Professor Paradox, Eon, The Forge of Creation, and Ledgerdomain don’t count since those are all outside of time.
My theory is that after ben learned he can duplicate himself through eco eco he kept the mature part of him hidden somewere just in case he died and thats why he acts more childish in ua and onward so there just a helpless depressed ben locked somewere for years not knowing he isn't the original wondering where his friends and family are and why they wont help him (i know his personality changed before that episode but i still like it)
That unironically sounds pretty legit, but the issue is that Ben is acting very mature in several episodes even as late as the second half of Omniverse. A more reasonable idea would be that they tag out regularly and have coordinated "sync up"-meetings when they briefly recombine to make sure they keep the same amount of memories as each other.
@lpfan4491 maybe after the split each ben develops independently and the mature ben just looses his mind out of isolation and despair I thought of how that ben could be a villan but that's just spinnel from su 😂
as odd as it sounds, i actually prefer emo ben having no backstory, because while it's just me projecting an idea i find interesting onto this blank character, i like the idea of a ben who isn't technically evil, but just doesn't care. an actually villainous ben, while able to destroy the world, realistically won't because that isn't gonna accomplish much, while a ben who's just bord and will do whatever to kill time, that's another story.
I think the idea of the Omnitrix aging Ben quicker could be plausible but not in that way exactly. We see that classic Ben 10,000 uses XLR8 almost 24/7. We know that Kinecelerans age much faster than humans do on their home planet, with entire lifetimes going by in a few weeks. Now of course XLR8 like all of the aliens is scaled to Ben’s age, but I could believe that using XLR8 so much could make him age faster regardless. I don’t subscribe to that theory but I could see it being true.
A. Yes Ben 10 did infact tackle Sucide. The episode "Ultimate Sacrifice" had ben Sacrifice himself and the other episode is when Ben got Camalien. B. Future Bens white hair is basically just Ben understess. 1. He has his family to worry about 2. The galaxy and galactic Conflicts to worry about. 3. His own planet. 4. His personal life. 5. His child. 6. His enemies to subdue 7. The Plumbers Literally in og series when we say Future Ben for first time we seem constantly saving the planet. Not to mention him being part of plumbers and having to live upto his grandpas expectations. It cause him allt of stress
I feel like every work of fiction has an it’s all in your head theory,Family guy,Naruto,the Grinch you name it,it’ll probably have an it’s all in your head theory.Oh and I forgot to mention Rugrats also had an it’s all in your head theory before it was debunked by the creator.
No it's a absolute cop-out, it justs gets rid of a rich and interesting universe in exchange for "it was all a dream" and "it was all a dream" only works in very specific stories
according to DJW at least nega ben's gwen is alive and dating Kevin like in the prime timeline. However unlike her prime self she's a blonde cheerleader and kevin is a blonde jock. Essentially it seems all three are meant to be different high school stereotypes.
I love the theory that feedback is an adicive / drug allien for Ben , total sense why he was so distraught ,after using Feedback , and kept it a secret from rook , and then Ben even says to rook , ,,i don’t know why I liked being feedback so much he just felt different,, so yes I agre 100% with this theory
I have to disagree on Nega Ben theory. You are telling me that Max the best plumber in the galaxy died to a forest fire hell No. It's too silly to me Maybe Max and gwen did indeed die but not to a freaking forest fire. Maybe vilgax because ben encountered Vilgax at the very beginning of his journey
The "protagonist is dead/comatose/dreaming the entire series" theories never fail at being terrible, unamusing, and often times nonsensical regardless of the franchise
"Ooh so this fictional series is fictional?! YOU DON'T SAID!"
@@rommdan2716you know what he means.
@@MohammadAnwar-gz5ro I think he's also saying that these theories are completely pointless
I honestly just like the idea of Nega ben just being an emo version of ben, he was listening to Hawthorne heights on his Ipod before he found the omnitrix.
I hope the last theory is cannon. A dark reality masked by a smoothie gag.
Too bad they didn’t use the OG Mr Smoothy mascot.
If the theory was a fact, using the old design as a remnant of the original universe would be much more impactful.
Heck, using the OG Omniverse design for Gwen could also work.
@@GoldPrince2468 That would be sick as fuck to whiteness and put the pieces together. But it would be clear instead of vague. This also takes away from the gag aspect.
What's artillery got to do with this?
@@GoldPrince2468 It is always what I think every single time that this is brought up.
I heard that high stress can cause one's hair to turn grey. And I imagine having to constantly save the world can be fairly stressful. So that could possibly explain why most future Ben's have grey hairs
Ben losing Feedback is the perfect reason for him to take off the omnitrix
And I think Nega ben was just like Ben Prime but after he lost feedback that caused him to go emo and not good guy , making him Nega Ben
I actually agree with this
U misspelled the n word
@@cenk.3467 ?
@@cenk.3467 You really got us with that one haha.
@@arvin6670 it's a joke on the n-word
6:18 If it represented drugs then him getting Feedback back being the solution would be a very, very bad theme. Also, if Feedback was an allegory for drugs then it would be better for the story if Ben had Feedback and lost it at the end of the arc willingly in order to show that drugs are bad.
Unless it is a metaphor for using drugs in healthy amounts In specific times or something but I don't think so since my hypothesis sounds stupid
Friend proposed it's a trans allegory. Ben really felt good being Feedback but was constantly told not to use him too much (like society enforcing folks to so-called "social norms") until someone (Malware) finally decided to stop him from good. Traumatized by the experience, Ben disassociated and gave up on that but it wasn't until he forgave himself and found strength to face that trauma again that he became himself once more and turned into Feedback again, and since then, he's been using Feedback a whole lot more to the point that he was the one alien that was saved the entire universe at the finale
@Jaded_Jinx I'd say this point misses it's mark.
Because from what I recall....the way they showed it is that ben has responsibilities as a hero.
A hero should try and save people as best as he can.
But ben using feedback was less about truly expressing himsekf and more about indulging too much in the power of that one alien.
He didn't understand monderation
@@rushalias8511 it can just be interpreted in many ways
what really made my friend and i agree on their theory is because Ben quite literally expressed that Feedback felt like he was a part of him, which he rarely expressed on most his forms, if any at all
plus the problem of putting all his power into "one alien" too much also has flaws because he also always did this to Four Arms, yet this was never a problem nor was it discussed as much as Feedback
@@Jaded_Jinx he didn't overuse Feedback again like his 11 year old did
My issue with the evil ben universes is that they all have the completed omnitrix and no explanation as to how they obtained it.
Yeah, I agree
Azmuth be like, "You know what would be funny? "
Fr tho, in those universes Azmuth is probably evil too
@dogegoodman2826 I don't remember where this was stated, but supposedly, Azmuth is too smart to be evil in every universe and realizes that that is not a viable path to take.
Also on the Feedback addiction, look at Little Kevin in OS, notice his action and reaction like an addict?
One of the Ben 10ks was president of earth for a while. That'll give anyone grey hair.
Problem is, We do have an explanation for the feedback case even if it comes out of the show, and it comes from Duncan Himself
The Omnitrix fuses the alien dna with a bit of Ben's dna to keep his conscious functioning normally, with only 2 exceptions as far as we know, Ghostfreak and Feedback who are known as full blown aliens as said by Duncan
The reason to why feedback was different is not only cause ben really liked the alien, but also cause it wasn't 100% himself, the conductoid DNA also had part of the control in a much less extreme Ghostfreak situation which not even Ben knows about as he can't explain why it felt different given the conductoid DNA never fought back like Zs'skayr
Unfortunately I'll have to debunk the Nega Ben 10 theory... really unfortunately, cause I like the theory.
We actually know a lot about him, from Fans directly asking the producers. Here's what we know (all were noted by the Ben 10 Wiki):
- Nega Ben likes kale chips and espresso smoothies.[DJW 4]
- Nega Ben does not fight villains or use the Negatrix for personal gain.[DJW 5] In fact, he does literally nothing with his Negatrix.[DJW 6]
- If Nega Ben had access to Alien X, he wouldn't even bother to argue with Bellicus and Serena. He would just mock or ignore them.[DJW 7]
- If Nega Ben turned into either Rath or Atomix, he would retain his dour personality in either form.[DJW 8]
- Nega Ben's version of Gwen is a cheerleader[DJW 1] with strawberry-blonde hair[DJW 9] of average intelligence. However, she acts less smart than she really is.[DJW 10]
- Nega Ben's version of Kevin is pretty jockish, has bleach blonde hair, and is well-tanned. Much like his Prime Timeline counterpart, Kevin is dating Gwen.[DJW 11]
- Nega Ben's version of Azmuth and the Galvan race were wiped out after the creation of the Negatrix by a rogue Celestialsapien coerced by Maltruant.[DJW 12]
- Derrick J. Wyatt's favorite alternate Ben was either Nega Ben or Benzarro. However, his favorites changed depending on his mood.[DJW 13]
- Nega Ben does not think Sumo Slammers are lame, but he only buys the expensive Japanese ones.[DJW 14]
Even tho its all trivia, we do get some info on Nega Ben's universe, as well as confirmation that Gwen is still alive. No information on Max though, but I doubt he's dead at this point.
Nega Ben 10 seems to just be a parody character, they wouldn't make some impactful backstory like that, as he's a walking pun with "edgy teenager emos" that were so popular at the time of Omniverse being aired... and as toxic as you'd imagine.
I wish they would make short stories of the alternative bens with the info we have
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The Feedback addiction fan theory isn't a theory at all, its literally there in the show, its canon
Fun fact albedo is sick throughout ben 10 omniverse thats why his aliens look pale as if they are dying
Ih wait really ? That’s cool
Source?
@@jeremysekundeezWould like the source too. Never heard this before.
Albedo is “corrupted”, his dna is flawed and stuff (don’t mind my tired brain typing) due to all that clone stuff in his first episode, that’s why, I thought. Never once heard the idea he’s “sick”
Is this one of those “I heard someone say it in a comment” fun facts??
@@shroomer8294"Source? My source is that I made it the f**k up!"
8:03 - well to be devil's advocate, Prisoner 775 did ask Ben to straight up kill him, which like, sure it isn't said explicitly but such deaths do unfortunately happen in real life
I have a theory that should be considered canon but the Ben 10 fandom can't seem to agree even though it makes perfect sense. Everytime Ben gets a new watch, that is when his future changes. Sounds simple and makes sense but because the OV future is supposed to be the same as the classic future, people think Ben 10,000 in the classic series is the same as Ben 10,000 in Omniverse, but also dismiss the idea that Ultimate Ben is the same as Ben 10,000 in either classic or Omniverse. While everyone can agree they Ultimate Ben is different from both versions of Ben 10,000 I seem to be the only one who thinks the two Ben 10,000s are different.
OV Ben 10k IS NOT classic Ben 10k you and you alone believe that and made it up probably because of a misunderstanding
Ben 10k from omniverse is not the same as classic Ben 10k
@@Geoemophobic no you and you alone can't read. Do some research atrocian, it's a known fact that the two futures are supposed to be the same which is why some people believe the two Ben's are the same.
@@RomaroBrandon then why don't you bring up the proof? you're the only person I heard saying that they are the same it doesn't even make any sense considering that there should be no new Omnitrix after omniverse so og Ben 10k's Omnitrix just doesn't make sense
@Geoemophobic if you were as smart as think you are you would read the part where I said 'Everytine Ben gets a new watch, that is when his future changes'. Other people (not me) say otherwise because according to the creators the OV future is supposed to be the same as the OS future. If you want proof, stop being lazy and do some research. Download the fandom app, type in Ben 10, then ask if they are meant to be the same. Better yet, go on Google and look up the Ben 10 timeline, then maybe ask your mother to read what it says since you're too illiterate to do so yourself.
I do believe in the feedback addiction theory because anything can become an addiction.
6:07 children’s shows could get away with so much more
why dont people understand that Ben seeing Contumelia as Mr.Smoothies is how Man of Action wrote Ben earlier? when he was in Rex's universe, the first thing he went to check on was the place Mr. Smoothies would be instead of checking on his family members or friends, infact Julie wasnt even mentioned
People listen to whatever kuro the artist tells them lol.
I mean the people in that universe weren't his family and he was concerned about his family back in his universe he was probably thirsty and his personality was changed to be more childish after alien force s2 finally because the network didn't want mature Ben they wanted 10 year old Ben so they stuck the 10 year old personality on him and dialed it to 11 in some scenes making him act worse than if he was actually 10.
The most important thing to Ben being a smoothie place just isn't very compelling.
@@N.I.A23The smoothie thing was a gag and not a compelling thing that added to Ben's character. Not not everything has to be super compelling or deep...but to have the most important thing to Ben literally being a smoothie place is just ugh
People don't like the inconsistency of his character even in pre-OV, so idk why this is an actual talking point.
We do know that Nega-Ben's universe has a version of Kevin, and that he is dating Gwen. Derrick J Wyatt stated as such.
Have a look at Nega-Ben's page on the Ben 10 Fandom wiki.
Oh really, I didn’t actually know that
Albedo one is my favorite by far, it's so depressing 😔😔
I remember when I first watched that scene when Feedback was absorbing the car battery I definitely thought they were gonna go for a addiction plot line
W vid rizzy bte still waiting for the part 2 to the football team vid ya know the rival team
Hi my friend 👋
Can you do a video about aliens clash
Like swampfire Vs heatblast
Feedback vs cromastone
Rath vs kickinhawk
A clash between aliens with same powers its gonna be a great and fun video 👍👍
the feedback is not the darkest thing a kids show has done but it feels too much like “thiiiis could be what’s happening” there’s no focus on him absorbing electricity and that being what ben likes about feedback to support it. if that was the goal it would be interesting but also not written well
the albedo theory got me. i love it. Best theory ever, the smoothies one...i guess it kinda seems interesting
Some people forget why characters like Albedo do a complete 180 from previous series to Omniverse it's because most if not everything Ben recreated as Alien X was done from his memory of everything including his Villains which means characters who had a chance to change didn't because Ben only saw them as Villains and that's what they became this gets backed up more because of Ben not getting a Mr. Smoothie flavour right which means he had control over what everyone was and how they live their lives and he might not even know it.
Yeah charmcaster even looks more like original series. It's probably the most recognizable look for her that's why it subconsciously made her look like that.
What if Nega Ben WAS a hero trying to live up to Max’s ideals.
But became what he became out of pure apathetic loneliness..he got tired of it so while he was living up to Max’s slandered,it didn’t make him feel anything…until the forever knights.
While facing them he accidentally kills one…it made him feel something.
So now ALL of Ben’s villains are either dead,reformed out of respect or fear(Kevin,Argit,the rioters) and or not targeting earth due to the legends of the one who killed Vilgax.
OH and he eliminated the plumbers out of spite that the one he was being good for (max) lied to him for 10 years. So yeah with Ben being the sole protector of earth and everyone being scared shitless of him it’s a relatively peaceful planet.
The crime rate might as well be zero and the universe is safe cause most are to terrified to commit a single act of evil.
Think of my Nega Ben timeline as the timeline from DCs Batman last knight on earth kind of vibe wise but instead of evil psycho Batman vs Batman clone it’s more Batman broke his one rule and couldn’t stop breaking it
4:53 that theory doesn't make sense both the parents of Ben and gwen aren't under the stress of saving the omniverse so it does make sense to have some gray hair
The gray hair could have just been a stylistic choice or caused by stress.
or genetics
@dragonslastfyl2203 that too lol
@@ZorusSerif I always thought he was platinum blonde 😅
Yo , that’s mad dark 😢😢 I definitely agree with your nega Ben theory too and … it’s sad to think about , that’s why he always says whatever and doesn’t talk Much , because he’s still Grieving with the lost of the ones he couldn’t save Being his love ones like max and Gwen 😢 aka his father figure and biggest support
Since the series itself didn't delv much into the other Bens I have my own headcanons for em.
Back in the classic series when Ben first met Kevin he was given the choice to join Kevin in getting the cash from crashing a money train into a passenger train. Our Ben didn't like the idea of hurting the passengers, but in other timelines they may've been more ok with it. This the start of Ben & Kevin's partnership in crime. According to my own headcanons, this timeline later splits again when someone approaches them to betray eachother. In the timeline where Kevin ultimately betrays Ben, Nega Ben is born. In the timeline where Ben betrays Kevin, we instead get Bad Ben.
And for anyone happening to wonder, my headcanon for Benzarro is he's from the universe where Ghostfreak won at the end of classic season 3 and corrupted the earth where as Mad Ben came from a timeline where at the end of the Highbreed war Ben successfully destroyed that portal but it destroyed the earth and may've fried his brain a bit.
Of course I'm sure creator statements contradict some of this. It is just headcanon after all.
If you notice the classic Ben 10k used xlr8 as his main alien of choice an alien species that ages at an extremely rapid rate only living for 6 earth days if I remember correctly and the only future Ben without gray in his hair is ultimate Ben a version of Ben who can use powers of his aliens in human form and the one who fuses his aliens ov Ben 10k has less gray than the classic Ben 10k.
So the omnitrix is working as intended since Azmuth probably didn't make it so the omnitrix expands the life span of an alien species you transform into.
Also don't we literally see the Highbreed who got "blown up" with the null void grenade in the season 2 finale of alien force.
The filter you used for this video makes what you’re talking about that much more scary
8:11 Didn't Albedo last appear cleaning up the trash on glavan after the fight?
I could definitely see the albedos story being true too and I agree with you too with this theory
man this was an awesome video!! i love the feedback theory and negaben theory
3:41 yea
I want more comparisons to Atla.
4:18 you don’t get grey hair due to aging ,you get it out of stress ,and since Ben 10k is an addictive hero constantly in the move ,it makes sense why he has it
my personal head canon is that that soul, of each character just moved on to the new universe when it got created, their no evidence to back it up but let me cope
My boy Rizzyrez, W video
Ben in itself is a transformation at peak form of human.
defo do a video on all the alt bens videos
neither of gwens or bens parents had to deal with the stress of being a superhero since they were 10, the omnitrix rebuilds and mends bens body whenever he reverts to human so if anything ben would have the pinnacle of human health care, he will probably live way past granpa maxs age who was in the 100s in ben 10k due to the great breakthroughs of future medical science which ben probably doesnt even need cause his watch is superior to any tech weve seen and probably will see
Having Feedback be explained as an addiction takes away from how Ben just really like this alien. You can want to become a certain aliens a lot cus you like and not be addicted.
You should do the video on the alternate Bens backstory
7:40 I remember a post from the late DJW where he said he doubted Albedo would reform and might become Albedo 10000 in the future.
I’ve got one. It’s actually more of a fact when you think about it. Here’s mine:
Ben didn’t save anyone.
When he re-creates the universe, he makes an almost exact duplicate. So that means that his original universe was destroyed and everyone in it died. But that new universe that he made is a separate one from his original universe. So, in the canon of Ben 10, everyone died. Of course, Professor Paradox, Eon, The Forge of Creation, and Ledgerdomain don’t count since those are all outside of time.
My theory is that after ben learned he can duplicate himself through eco eco he kept the mature part of him hidden somewere just in case he died and thats why he acts more childish in ua and onward so there just a helpless depressed ben locked somewere for years not knowing he isn't the original wondering where his friends and family are and why they wont help him (i know his personality changed before that episode but i still like it)
That unironically sounds pretty legit, but the issue is that Ben is acting very mature in several episodes even as late as the second half of Omniverse. A more reasonable idea would be that they tag out regularly and have coordinated "sync up"-meetings when they briefly recombine to make sure they keep the same amount of memories as each other.
@lpfan4491 maybe after the split each ben develops independently and the mature ben just looses his mind out of isolation and despair I thought of how that ben could be a villan but that's just spinnel from su 😂
as odd as it sounds, i actually prefer emo ben having no backstory, because while it's just me projecting an idea i find interesting onto this blank character, i like the idea of a ben who isn't technically evil, but just doesn't care.
an actually villainous ben, while able to destroy the world, realistically won't because that isn't gonna accomplish much, while a ben who's just bord and will do whatever to kill time, that's another story.
I'd love to see more of the other Bens. Always wondered about Bad Ben's story.
The Feedback theory shouldn’t be about drug addiction.
It’s a POWER trip… I’ll see myself out.
Even if anyone close to Ben.. professor paradox would likely save him as prime Ben needs a grandpa max to make their universe work as it supposed to.
I think the idea of the Omnitrix aging Ben quicker could be plausible but not in that way exactly.
We see that classic Ben 10,000 uses XLR8 almost 24/7. We know that Kinecelerans age much faster than humans do on their home planet, with entire lifetimes going by in a few weeks. Now of course XLR8 like all of the aliens is scaled to Ben’s age, but I could believe that using XLR8 so much could make him age faster regardless. I don’t subscribe to that theory but I could see it being true.
3:40 I'd be more surprised if someone hadn't seen avatar, the last Airbender by now what are you talking about
0:35 i always hate thoose type of theories
Nega Ben is the only evil Ben who isn’t evil he’s just like who cares I love that about him
Oh yeah I think he joined because he was bored or something
A. Yes Ben 10 did infact tackle Sucide. The episode "Ultimate Sacrifice" had ben Sacrifice himself and the other episode is when Ben got Camalien.
B. Future Bens white hair is basically just Ben understess.
1. He has his family to worry about
2. The galaxy and galactic Conflicts to worry about.
3. His own planet.
4. His personal life.
5. His child.
6. His enemies to subdue
7. The Plumbers
Literally in og series when we say Future Ben for first time we seem constantly saving the planet.
Not to mention him being part of plumbers and having to live upto his grandpas expectations. It cause him allt of stress
I feel like every work of fiction has an it’s all in your head theory,Family guy,Naruto,the Grinch you name it,it’ll probably have an it’s all in your head theory.Oh and I forgot to mention Rugrats also had an it’s all in your head theory before it was debunked by the creator.
I don’t think the Omnitrix Ben is dying theory is A no too
The coma Ben 10 theory is good
No it's a absolute cop-out, it justs gets rid of a rich and interesting universe in exchange for "it was all a dream" and "it was all a dream" only works in very specific stories
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can you post a link to all these theories please
Half of these are just "Source: Trust me bro" 😭😭
I’d really like to see an alternate Ben video
2:03 this could of been the season finale
1:07 there is kind of a plot hole cause of the Kevin rampage of it was the pirfect dream then Kevin would be dead and not alive and sain
8:08 I think the next show will
The grandpa max one is a no though
9:28 you can learn a bit about him on the wiki
Good job
according to DJW at least nega ben's gwen is alive and dating Kevin like in the prime timeline. However unlike her prime self she's a blonde cheerleader and kevin is a blonde jock. Essentially it seems all three are meant to be different high school stereotypes.
One of the best vids by you until now ❤
0:35 me too
7:41 he deserves better
4:20 me getting grey hair at 17
0:25 boring Skip to the next one 🥱
Plus ben 10 threat unalive the forever knight
I love the theory that feedback is an adicive / drug allien for Ben , total sense why he was so distraught ,after using Feedback , and kept it a secret from rook , and then Ben even says to rook , ,,i don’t know why I liked being feedback so much he just felt different,, so yes I agre 100% with this theory
Coma theories are the most boring, and mind numbing theories.
I have to disagree on Nega Ben theory. You are telling me that Max the best plumber in the galaxy died to a forest fire hell No. It's too silly to me
Maybe Max and gwen did indeed die but not to a freaking forest fire. Maybe vilgax because ben encountered Vilgax at the very beginning of his journey
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I could definitely see the albedos story being true too and I agree with you too with this theory