Choosing Oil and Lubricants for Toyota GR Yaris & GR Corolla
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- The GR Yaris & GR Corolla share the same engine: G16E-GTS turbo I3 (GXPA16)
so let's see what we can use to best protect our engines, gearbox, transfer case, differential and brake fluid!
The information shared in this video is collected as follows:
- Piotr Oil Tester
- ACME Racing
- Lamspeed
- Personal Testing and Experience
I've got You covered with a shortcut thru research and direct experience!
Certain Toyota Service centers are ok with using your provided API SP 5W30 Engine Oil, others aren't: you will have to see for yourself with them!
For more details, start by checking out Piotr's channel: @PiotrTester
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:50 - GR Engine Oil
04:28 - GR Gearbox Oil
07:07 - GR Transfer Case Oil
10:52 - GR Brake Fluid
13:30 - Outro
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Thanks for this. Just got my new Yaris so will be changing all fluids asap
Very welcome mate!
Always informative - Thank you
Very welcome mate!
Very informative.
Thank you.
Cheers!
Everything you say is correct, I did a lot of research in early stage of owning one back in 2021.
Lately I used Redline Oil MTL and MT-LV which is the best for manual transmission.
As for the Transfer case I used Driven and same to Rear Differential, on Mutol (LS) is for limited slip for circuit package GR option.
Cheers Mate, thankyou for the support, most important for me!
😃
Ich verwende seit dem ich 2500km auf der Uhr habe, Ravenol 5-W30 SP, wird ca alle 2000Km von Toyota gewechselt.
Im Getriebe 75-W90 und in den Differenzialen 75-W90 LS beide von Ravenol diese lass ich 1x im Jahr wechseln und kann Adrianos Aussagen bestätigen. Auch die 660 Motul Bremsflüssigkeit verwende ich und wird min. 1x im Jahr gewechselt.
Ich hatte gerade eine super Bestätigung dessen, was ich für meinen verwendet habe und was ich die letzten 2Jahre mache 👍
Thankyou Hini, its great to have this input also from you, you’re doing it in the best ways!
Nimmst du deine eigenen Öle zu Toyota mit?
Bei mir steht ein ÖW an und ich möchte dies im Rahmen der Garantie abhandeln
Grüße
Yes, I take my oil to Toyota for the warranty scheduled changes, and also I change it more on my own
Do you had contact with the Dealer or Toyota directly? I just want something written before i take action@@AJClubsport
TY very much! Keep ur vids coming pleas 🙂
Cheers! Do you have any specific topic of interest?
@@AJClubsport Cheers! A summery of all your knowledge would be nice :)
Did you think about adding a "catch can" to your GR Yaris (has both direct and indirect injections, as far as I know)?
That was very useful. Actually, I have seen something similar once, when an American tuner inreviewd a Motul expert on Nismo cars.
Thankyou!
This amazing content just one question if we provide the 5w30 Motul oil than the 0w20 Motul will the dealer void warranty because it’s different from what on the oil cap?
Thankyou! My suggestion is to ask your service dealer before: mine is happy with 5W30 (happier infact), but this may vary
thanks bro for sharing such information. my GR is clock >100k km. hope i can maintain my car as good and as well as long as possible.
My pleasure, and yes you will!! 💪🏼
thanks for this great summary - testing ravenol 5w30 also for next summer, espec for track use
RAVENOL DXG SAE 5W-30@@VidNibs
Sounds great!
maybe the difference in viscosity is quite small when comparing 0w20 in 80'C to 5w30 in 110'C
@@AJClubsport
Great video again, love your insights about GRY.
Why do you prefer Motul Eco-lite over Motul Power? Is there any specific reason?
Because they are actually very similar, I was told, meet same specifications and the Lite was in stock
Sharing more oil knowledge for our GR Yaris'. Ravenol DFE 0W-20 on the G16E engine, used for 10,000 kilometers with a track day included, close to zero degradation as confirmed through an oil lab test. No need to up your viscosity I guess? Link is below.
ruclips.net/video/UWRXIYUyprs/видео.html
Don’t take it badly… You know, it is very tiring to answer all comments like yours, because there isn’t the basic technical understanding beneath to work with.
Of course 0W20 oil works, and a good quality one will work better too.
Simply put, the protective film of a 5W30 oil is thicker, and this is now accepted by Toyota, after much testing direct and indirect from us tuners, from Lamspeed to ACME, to Toyota Gazoo Italy and many more.
A 5W30 will always protect more than a 0W20, especially in an engine like this one that has 3 piston squirters and is known for blow by due to piston ring float.
Awesome videos! Can you use the 300LS for the front LSD? or just use the 300LS for the rear LSD? THANKS
Thankyou for the support! I’m sorry but I don’t have any evidence of this swap being possible
@@AJClubsport i meant can you use the gear300 LS for the front transfer case? what happens when you use the normal gear300 for the rear diff?
Sorry mate! Yes, Gear 300LS is fine in the front transfer too
Could you help me pls. For a new GR Yaris, after how many klm is it required by Toyota to change the engine oils the first time? I can't find info in the manual
I think they say 5000km, but i would suggest to flush after 1000 and then again at 5000
Your link to Piotr's channel is broken but great video as always!!! 1 thing I'm not sure about is the viscosity of 5w30. surely in non-hot climates its not going to be a good idea? Also if there is no constant track use its a bit too much?
I will do my best to fix the link! The 5W30 is the best overall compromise, as used by the top tuners worldwide and rally teams, I've done all the due diligence. Cheers!
Just contacted my dealer, and they said Toyota approves up to 5w30 API SN Plus. So they can not change them with 5w30 API SP. What to do now?
There must be a mistake, as API SP is in the car’s books and is a superior quality. Maybe they don’t have it?
What are you recommending to replace after the first 1000km?
All the car’s lubricants if possible, but minimum the engine oil
I'm not sure about different viscosity and warranty, that's why I use Toyota's 0w20 SP. Are you sure we are allowed use other than specified viscosity? I do change every 5000km, hope that way I keep engine healthy and local Toyota service happy.
You will be fine with that frequency. Here it’s ok to change viscosity
@@AJClubsportCheers! All the best in 2024.! Hopefully with more of your content!
@@markos8400 Cheers mate!
Ciao, grazie per il video. Io ho la versione Circuit con differenziali autobloccanti anteriore e posteriore. Non sarebbe meglio inserire , sia nel differenziale posteriore che nel cambio anteriore la versione Motul Gear 300 LS 75W-90?? Grazie per la risposta
Ciao, grazie a Te per aver seguito e per la domanda! Quanto dici ha molto senso ma, il Gear 300LS è un olio troppo viscoso per il cambio, che porterebbe ad un forte indurimento ed a possibili imputamenti. Per questo, nel cambio, suggerisco il Gear300 “liscio”! A presto
@@AJClubsport Grazie Adriano, molto gentile, ma non succede niente non usando olio specifico per slittamento limitato?
Solo quello che ho detto sopra, puoi provare pero’ non lo consiglio perché un olio molto viscoso poi ti costringe a lavare il cambio con diversi cambi d’olio per liberartene
Is there a reason that you use the eco-lite? What do you think about motul 8100 power?
It is perfect mate, just what my dealer had!
@@AJClubsport you are talking about the eco-lite or the 8100 power?
Because in the video you showed the eco-lite
They are both ok, as they respect the API-SP rating
Hi!! What oil temperature do you have in normal driving? Mine on the highway at 120kmh and 10° outside my oil temperature is a 100°c.. and when I srive a little bit hard on mountains roads the oil goes directly to 120°c +
Hello mate, mine is usually in the 80s and 100 when going maximum, sometimes a bit under 120 only when above 2000mt over sea level and going 100%
Thank you for your response! So my GR definitely have a probleme🥲 calling my Toyota dealer tomorrow morning
Your GR has normal temperatures for a stock car, no problems! You need to install our Hood Vents and an additional oil cooler to achieve my results!
@@AJClubsport ok! But in Switzerland we can’t cut the hood 🥲 can’t install a oil cooler as well.. or I have to take a very discreet one and hope police will not see it 🤦🏻♂️😂
Im having trouble finding the api sp motul oil. The eco clean is api sn, I am not finding api sp.
API SP is mandatory: change brand if you need to, but this is a much higher specification
@AJClubsport Okay, thank you, have you tried penzoil? It's cheap and everyone says it's good.
Would also be great to say how much of these is needed. Or did I miss that in the clip?
I can do it!
I use MOTUL 300V Competition 0W-40 oil, much better than OEM 0W-20, the oil pressure on a warm engine in the range of low and medium shaft revolutions is much higher.
I understand, but remember that the 0W is what makes your oil film thin, therefore less protection 😅
@@AJClubsport OW is responsible for the viscosity of cold engine oil, 40 for the viscosity of hot oil, so I have better protection when the engine is warm.
yes, this is how it works BUT, its not so simple: the lower grade viscosity has a direct impact on overall oil viscosity, thus making the 0W rated oil’s film less protective and thinner. If you wish to learn more, I suggest you watch some tests on Piotr’s channel, in description
In Spain dealers use ravenol 0w-20
And here is where you would like to ask them for 5W30! Thankyou for sharing!
@@AJClubsport why no 0w-30?
@@Florensuescuncolomobecause the 0W rated oils make a film that is too thin to protect well
Sans compter l'huile de frein, vous parlez de 2 types huiles original mais toyota en préconise 4 types (moteur 0W-20 SP GF-6A API), (boite a vitesse LV GL-4 75W), (Boite de transfert LT 75W-85 GL-5), (differenciel arrière LX 75W-85 GL-5). Alors je suis confus!
You are right! We decided to step up the oil in the gearbox to the same in transfer, given overheating from the torsen differential, that is why one less!
Buona sera Andriano , scrivo in italiano perché in inglese potrei sbagliare qualche termine , io sto ancora cercando un concessionario che non faccia storie per un 5W-30 a maggior ragione qui in Puglia dove già ci sono 18-20 gradi a febbraio. Grazie per la risposta
Ciao Marco! Non saprei in realtà: nel mio concessionario non ho avuto alcun problema affatto, l’hanno semplicemente messo, anche se mi conoscono bene e sanno che non farei nulla per danneggiare la mia auto… se proprio non trovi, puoi mettere uno 0W20 di alta qualità, andrai bene lo stesso!
Quello che mettono in Toyota è li stesso delle ibride da città e si degrada molto velocemente
@@AJClubsport si ahimè ho notato che è lo stesso delle vetture ibride , tanto è vero che faccio il tagliando ogni 6 mesi o 5.000km oppure subito dopo un track day dato che l’olio si degrada molto facilmente . Il problema che loro tendono a storcere il naso se porto io l’olio … tanto è vero che volevo acquistare o quello della Motul che tu stesso hai mostrato nel video o il Pakelo . Non so devo provare a cambiare officina Toyota e sentirne un’altra per capire se è fattibile o mi fanno storie pure lì
Sii, conviene sentire, perché per legge Monti dovrebbero lasciarti portare olio, assolutamente!
@@AJClubsport anche perché ho una mail di Toyota Motor Italia in cui mi danno l’ok ad usare un olio con specifica da libretto ma diverso dal loro … però rimane il fatto che uno 0w-20 con le temperature che raggiungiamo noi in primavera estate non so quanto possa essere protettivo per il mio motore
@marcoportaluri6642 per la protezione in generale non mi preoccuperei, più che altro e’ la pressione molto bassa a caldissimo ed il film più sottile rispetto al 5W30
For the haters that say only Toyota 0w20 oil can be used. My UK manual says...that grade is "Recommended" i.e not absolute.
It says Toyota genuine oil is used in your Toyota vehicle Toyota recommends the use of Toyota genuine oil. Then says...Another motor oil of matching quality can also be used. And says e
ither API snplus or SP.
Thankyou ❤️
I’m sorry but I disagree on engine oil. “It has been proven that 5w30…” proven by who, doing what?
The engine is designed for 0w20, even on hard use. If you change the viscosity you are in fact aging the engine faster as the motor itself has been designed with specific tolerances for that very oil, 0w20.
The chief engineer who was responsible for the GR Yaris design claims that. You just have to use a good 0w20, ideally, or if standard just replace the oil often (I agree that the advance fuel economy they have in europe is not the ideal oil but I rather run that than other viscosity, no brainer).
Let’s stop saying things that aren’t true.
All the iberian cup cars race on Ravenol DFE 0w20 and have had 0 engine failures in two seasons. Those are hard facts. The rest is just…well
Thankyou for sharing your view. In italy, that have undertaken @acmeracing all the development for rally GR’s, including I imagine the Syvecs maps for the Portuguese, they learnt this while experiencing a massive blowby and mega detonation on their main development car. Plus, if you try on your own, you will notice the difference. Of course 0W20 works, and is safe if exchanged very frequently BUT, it protects less than 5W30, that doesn’t come with adverse issues.
A bit more listening, a bit less hate…
@@AJClubsport the first adverse issue using 5w30 is that Toyota voids the warranty.
On an engine failure situation, one of the first things Toyota does is an oil check in a lab. If the oil is not within 0w20 specifications, they will void the warranty.
Ravenol dfe 0w20 oil check in a lab after 10.000 km and track use on a GR Yaris:
ruclips.net/video/UWRXIYUyprs/видео.htmlsi=H7FSwagZOdeBoiqG
@@CDM33333 Are you sponsored by Ravenol? Because you are still missing the whole point of this topic. It's not about the oil degradation only, as I said, its about the protection film that is greater in 5W30 than 0W20.
@@AJClubsport I’m not sponsored by Ravenol at all and have not received any money from them or any discount. I just use it because it has been proved that it works very well on the Yaris engine. Also, is the oil that the official Toyota dealers in Spain, put in the GR Yaris, the EFS 0w20, in particular instead of Toyota 0w20 oil.
On another note, now you bring the sponsor topic on. Are you or have you been sponsored by BOS suspension, or have they offer you a discount in order to praise their products online?
That car have 10 years waranty Toyota, why it is a problem to run with that 0w20 oil. If people get there engines run bad, and create some issues it its for Toyota to solve it out. Many Modern engines run on tin oil, its a evolution in design of internal parts that get better and better. Bmw M cars with a three liter six cylinder with almost 500hp run on 0w30, so why not a Yaris GR on 0w20.
Because
- the Gen 1 car has an issue with piston rings gaps, that when thermically stressed have brought to mega-blow by in various occasions, the most famous is ACME’s development car.
- oil pump can limit oil pressure with bypass, but can’t help low oil pressure idling after heavy driving at 0.3bar on 0W20 oil.
All the top tuners, and most rally teams are using 5W30 for these reasons, and they change oil with much higher frequency than average road drivers.
If you just street your car on Oem settings 0W20 will be fine, but if you are pushing thing in performance (power) and driving, you will want to consider minimum top quality 0W20 or a very good Api SP 5W30