Buying a Saddle That Fits You
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- Purchasing a saddle is a big investment. Purchasing a saddle that will fit you is imperative. There are lotta videos and a lot of information out there about what it takes for a saddle to fit you properly, but not all of that information is 100% correct. So I’ve added my two cents to the pot. Hope it helps.
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I don't really know beans about horses or wrangling but sir... I would watch you describe ice to Eskimos. Thank you again. Can't wait to hear more about the school!
same lol
Yup
Very well explained! Also hard to find a saddle that fits BOTH you and your horse! Very HARD to find a saddle that fits you and multiple different types of horse's! But once you find that saddle take care of it and it will last a lifetime! Hell my saddle was built in 1966! I haven't ridden horses in years but I will NEVER get rid of my saddle!
I actually sat in several different saddles and arrived at getting into a 17 inch roping saddle and it fits me and my mare like a glove. Take as much time and fuss over and over again until you do find “ the one”.
I live in Scotland in the city and can't tell you the last time I seen a horse but in my mind I'm a cowboy. I'm watching this and now I want a saddle 🤠
Lubrication isn't necessarily all equivalent... That stated agree that one should look at context, not just in saddles, but ALL gear
You always give great advice, and thank you for that.
Extremely helpful. I always wondered about the ins and outs of saddle sizing. Thank you sir.
Simple and sound advice as always- keep up the good work
Great video. Love the common sense. I hope your school goes great good luck and thanks for all the great content.
always great explanation and tips on life and ranch things. I love your videos and talks on life.❤️
Thank you for this Dwayne, I’m learning about this from you as I am looking to buy a new saddle. I want it to fit myself, but just as importantly my mare an it’s a huge learning cover. I know horses, but now know rubbish at saddle fitting. Thank you for the help.
You said it you always explain thing very logically. The best part I understand your logic
I absolutely agree with you on that. I rode in a 17 inch Dakota roper saddle model 802.even though I was barely pushing 200 lbs and 6’2. And I loved the freedom of that saddle and still have it today.
Couldn’t ever have a horse but I enjoy watching you talk.
I really enjoyed this one and would enjoy seeing some videos on pack mules and pack saddles, Decker vs sawbuck, etc.
Great Stuff.Great timing for me. Ive been looking for a saddle.
Bless your heart for your honesty.
Don’t let the stress get you! It’s all gonna be alright!
Love the content as always! I am going to disagree with you on diff oil. I have seen some ATV differentials burn up because the manufacturer called for Mobil Hydraulic Fluid and the customer filled with 80w90, but I worked as an ATV mechanic for several years and I am here getting advice on saddles. I bought a Corriente Wade saddle a couple years ago and have been very happy with it. It's not as nice as some, but it is well built and fits my horse.
Thanks for the info on saddles. Blessings.
Thank you you helped me look for on buying my first saddle. We are still looking for one. We have a thoroughbred
I've worked with all types of horse's from mustangs, Arabs, quarter, big warm bloods for hunter jumpers, thorobreeds ETC! I have a western saddle for starting all of them and an English saddle! Hell I've been on cattle round ups and mountain trails riding my English saddle! I actually prefer my English saddle! But then again I'm not roping anything! Lol because hell I can't rope!
You just made me reason out why I always said no saddle.
I've sat on many kind. Noticed all the things you pointed out. Nobody could tell me why the difference.
The price one pays for uncomfortable stuff didn't compute till now.
I need a saddle to fit my light behind. I've been sitting in the big boys chair...
There are lots of benefits to a big seat. It's how I taught myself how to do tricks riding
I don't know much about horses or saddles. But we are wanting to buy land and I am seriously thinking on getting a horse. Your videos are very educational I love them because they are plain and simple. Enjoy the cigar videos to
Exactly the Information I was looking for. Thank you.
I really needed this video. Thank you
Thank you, I always learn something new from you.
So true-I teach people to ride bareback and saddle and how to train horses-it is difficult to express the importance of “riding” the horse which therefore I figure you need lots of room in your saddle to Ride-Great explanation and video -already shared to a few people-maybe coming from someone else might help me convey this message
Western saddle trees are typically measured from the cantle to the top of the gullet, not the horn. That said I recently had a professional saddle maker make a saddle that ended up being way too large for me. He measured me all up and said I needed a 17.5" one of his saddles. I thought, 'well every saddle maker is different so maybe his 17.5" is somebody else's 16" or 15.5" '. I just didn't think I needed a 17.5" because I am fairly tall but I'm not that big and have no belly but I put my money down and paid to have him make me saddle trusting that he knew what he was doing as he makes the saddles and the trees he uses all by hand. It's beautiful and it's super comfortable but it's waaaaaay too big for me. I can ride it just fine, like you said you ride the horse not the saddle but when I sit in it and ride where I do I've got at least 3" - 4" inches in front of me and 3" - 5" behind me and it takes up a LOT of real estate on my horse's backs. I paid $4,500-ish for it and I will most likely take a loss on it when I sell it, because I'm not keeping a saddle that I spent that much money on, only to have it fit me that badly. The saddle maker I used came highly recommended from a great number of folks in the horse world I talked with but I think he could use some work on fitting the saddle to the man. Like you I don't want to be squeezed in but I don't want to pay that kind of money to essentially ride bareback saddle fit wise.
Wow that sucks !!
No idea how much saddle time you've had but I would have had to ask more questions before flopping down that kinda money. 17.5 is a HUGE seat.
@@rafterL78 That's what I thought too, but he insisted that was the size seat I needed in his custom made tree. FWIW I have been riding for 45 years now. I should have listened to my gut and told him that I normally ride a 15.5 and sometimes a 16 depending on the maker. You could quite literally fit two people in this saddle seat and I need a warmblood size horse to put it on.
Great explanation, everything in the cowboy world is based on experience and personal preference.
Good to hear you are in Tennessee and your classes are filling up.
As I wrote in a previous comment, certainly hope in the future you will consider providing overnight horseback excursions into some of the many wild and beautiful areas located in Tennessee.
Right on ! I would sign up for that.
Best piece of advise I have heard in a long time!!!! Just ride the horse!!!
I own a saddle and tack repair shop and have questions about horses and tack from my customers. Now I’m no expert but have rode for the last fifty some years. Now that I found your posts I have gave them my advise but tell them to be sure and watch yours. I have never recommended anyone else. I especially appreciated your post about the ones that come out and measure the horse to build a saddle since I have been telling customers it’s a waste. When they have asked about the trainers on TV , I always tell them to watch the birds with horse crap. They pick out the good stuff and leave the crap behind.
That’s Martin Roach
I love this man. God bless 😊
Yet another great vid. I was told by a guy in Alberta the other day that he bought a saddle online and it didn't fit him. To me that's as bad as buying a horse online before you know if you two will work together
I have always used the front edge of the hand hold opening for seat measurement not the top of the horn
I have been riding for 50 years and no one ever accused me of being a good rider. But I have never understood how 1/2 inch could possibly make me a better or worst rider. 1 inch may can make a difference to a good rider tho.
Hi Dewayne, I’m primarily an English rider and have ridden both hunt seat in both a jumping and flat saddle and also very deep-seated dressage saddles. I’ve also ridden in endurance saddles and Paso Fino saddle-seat saddles and Icelandic horse saddles. I’ve also ridden in basic western saddles for trail riding.
Your points about how to fit a western saddle are the same for other kinds of saddles. Size of knee rolls, seat style, cantle height, and space needed for attached accessories all factor into saddle fitting.
The one important thing that I thought you would briefly mention was that saddle size is also relative to the breed and size of the horse in addition to the riding discipline. But I do realize the limited time you have and to not overwhelm the newbie or bore the experienced rider.
I think that I tend to ride a 17” dressage saddle (+/-) and/or all-purpose saddle (so I’ve been told). I can tell when the saddle size is too small as it throws my weight and balance forward, so I compensate as best I can. I often ride in saddles owned by women as I do “catch riding” of my friends’ horses, so the saddles are usually a bit too small for me.
A 17” saddle sized for a horse with a wide and/or long back and a horse with either high or low withers and/or different kinds of shoulders will also determine how a saddle is sized. And this also takes into account different horse breeds and breed types too. Your average old style Quarter Horse May need a completely different sized saddle than an Appendix or more leaner breed.
Of course you also could have mentioned the different kinds of saddles for all the different riding disciplines, but that would take a much longer time.
In the end though, please tell me what you think is more important to selecting a saddle, how it fits your horse, or most horses, or fits the rider.
He kinda answers your last question in other video about Wrangling & saddles. When working different ranches & wrangling jobs. You never know what horses you'll be working. So there is no 1 answer, depends on what You will be doing. I.ve worked ranch that you coulden.t use your own saddle, foreman wanted you using ranch gear, already matched their horsed for most part. But your experience with the dressage riding is a workd of knowledge in itself.
Great point don't listen to a roper or other arena cowboy. They use saddles that are too small for trail riding and packing. How often does a roper turn around and look behind his mule/horse? If you hunt your saddle needs to be a little big so when it gets cold and you layer up you have room to rotate to take care of your pack mule that took a left when you took a right
great video ! thanks for the tips
Enjoyed this video. Thanks.
i use a 18 have for many years it probably should be a 17 but it is more comfortable. i have had the same leather saddle since 1972 nice and broke in i do not rope anylonger. now it is slow down.,, hi ho silver
Great video!
Great Advice Ty Sir!
Thank you for this. I am a steer wrestler and people who rope try to buy 15.5 inch steer wrestling saddles and don’t understand that our saddles slope back several inches
LSD Diffs take different oil . Love your show 👍🏻🇦🇺
I love that jacket you’re wearing what brand is it? Looks sharp
Keep up the good work sir
God Bless
This was a great video.
Quite Frankly sent me. We’ll all be checking you out!
Thank you sir
Rules are “guides”, “recommendations”not laws. common sense and what works for you is all you need. Dwayne I want you to know I totally support your cause and family I wish I could support you patron but money is a little tight! Just know you have my support! Thank you so much I’ve learned a lot from you and your wise advice! Idk if you’ve had much experience with Australian Stock saddles. I hear they are built for more trail and bush terrain and that’s what I would use it for it will also be my first saddle and horse. Just wanted to hear you thoughts. Thank you so much!
I actually had one one time several years ago, but I could not get it to stay on a stocky quarter horse for anything. I just did not work for me, however I know several folks who have ridden them and love them.
@@DryCreekWranglerSchool good to know, thank you sir. Appreciate all you do👍🏻 also the mare I am looking at is available for me to get to know before purchase and there is also a mule out there with her I’m doing what you did in your video on how to catch a horse to the tee. But the mule stays with her and runs her off when I get close any advice there lol
I have owned several Aussie saddles. They were all extremely comfortable and could ride long days without knee pain, but I never did find one that fit the horses I was riding and I always had dry spots and even white hairs start if I was riding a lot for several months. Granted, this was all back when I was a lot younger and dumber and couldn't tell the difference between a $20 saddle pad and a $200 saddle pad.
@@MrHercules222 thanks.
ty this was very good ty deb
Is it necessary to buy a special type of saddle for mules?? Thank you, ur channel is awesome!
Measuring from the horn is not accurate, it is typically measured from the inside top of the pommel beneath the horn, that is a 15" saddle you are showing us. That being said, I agree with all your points, very helpful as usual...
Hello Duane. What stirrup position do you prefer and why?
Enjoyed the video
Makes perfect sense
At 6-3 and 265lbs I ain't fat no gut just a big Dude! I need a size 18 perfect fit!
Usually when I'm looking for saddles I usually look for the shape as well as the number
Great video of pure truth.
HEY MAN HOW S IT GOIN
DO YA LL THINK YOU WILL HAVE SOME ADJUSTMENT FROM WIDE OPEN SPACES TO THE CLOSENESS OF EASTERN WOODS
SOME HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT
THANKS FOR THE VIDS
GOOD LUCK
This channel is great, watched 1 video and been watching several others. Great information all around.
Welcome to the Tennessee Valley.
yes
Hello Dwayne I know this is off topic from your video. But I recently got a new horse from a auction and ended up he has strangles and has exposed my daughters horse to it also . So I wanted to know what you know about it . And if you could maybe do a video on it and let me know what you know about it
Hope the move was smooth. Do you plan on staying put.
We'd like to say hey on our way south.
We're putting together our retirement hacienda in Central Florida.
Nice video bud. We're sopping it up.
Being a green horn. And getting started on our second childhood. With an interest in mules and donks.
The move was very smooth, Thanks! We are definitely hoping to put down roots in the area.
You guys are welcome to drop in on the way through, just let us know
YEAH, SON IN LAWS CAN BE DIFFICULT AT TIMES. I KNOW THE FEELING
What can you say about cantle?? Which are best? And about seat soft or hard? Thanks
I have terrible arthritis in my knees. Constantly adjusting length. Some days longer works best. No posting anymore. Struggling with stirrup leathers and turning to take pressure off knees.
Anyway to move leathers around Easily. Forward back. Cut narrower under fenders.? Thoughts, thank you.
Dewayne has a video on turning stirrup leathers. He shows it on Momma’s last saddle. It works very well. I’ve been doing it to all the saddles I ride for years. I have busted up knees and hips so I understand completely. So days I can hardly get in the saddle. Turning your leathers helps so much. I can actually ride comfortably now.
Hello Dwayne, I have a question, I adopted a mustang and he has a short back and he’s about 14 hands. What kind of saddle do you suggest for a short backed horse? He’s a 4 year old so I know he’s still going to grow some more but I don’t think much more. Do you have any tips or advice? Thanks for all the great videos.
Wade type saddles will fit the majority of mustangs with short backs. Keep in mind that a Mustang isn't full-grown until it's 8 years old. Depending on what HMA your Mustang came from, what you're feeding and what kind of excercise they're getting, your 14 hand 4 year old could very well be in the 15 to 16 hands at 8 years old. One of my twin peaks horses went from 14.3 to 16 hands between 6 years old and 8 years old.
In many cases, the length of the seat has a lot to do with the overall length of the saddle. Not only that, but the length of the skirt and the back jockeys affect the size of the saddle as well. One of the things that you can do is make sure that you purchase a saddle that does not have excessively large skirts or jockeys in the back. Usually, saddles with rounded skirts or what they call a butterfly skirt do not have near the excess leather sticking out the back of the cantle, and work well for short backed horses.
From riding myself- from saddling as a wrangler and buying and selling some saddles and tack. The biggest hint I can give. Is your next size is normally close to the seat size you need. About 90% accurate.
Dewayne, to be a wrangler do I need to know something about cattle, herding, husbandry?
Thanks Rocky
No, for wrangling the main focus is horses and people. Cattle, herding and such are very rarely ever a consideration.
Another reason to get a slightly larger fitting saddle is that most people tend to get bigger as they get older.
OMG where are you at in Tennessee?
Could you address saddles and comfort for women? I rode 6 days last year and my undercarriage was in great discomfort the entire time. My saddle was handmade by the owner of the outfit for himself. Recently I learned that women have 3 points of contact in the saddle and men have two. Do you have any thoughts or comments on making the saddle youre given for a ride be more comfortable?
Could you or would you recommend a saddle maker that wouldn't break the bank for a working man.
I have worked with some working cowboys who rode Corriente saddles, and some who Tesky saddles, and some that rode NRS saddle, and some that rode Circle Y. And they all liked them.
I will throw in my two cents on corriente saddles. I own one of their Wade saddles, that’s what I ride right now it is very comfortable for me.(5’10” 150#) that said when I was cowboying and working in it I have sored one horse. The second time time it happened to him (after changing pads) I turned him out for 3months to heal up. He now has a lump of scar tissue on his back now right where the skirting is woven together in the back. I cut a hole in a saddle pad where that spot is and it no longer gives me an issue. Until we do 12+hours on the mountain gathering that’s when he gets just a little tender but not bad. I always say you get what you pay for. I believe that 100%. However if you are just trail riding or arena stuff they are great. It has served me well and will continue to do well until I can save the money for very nice saddle. Again just my $.02 I like mine but am saving for a higher quality one. I have certainly got my $900 out of the saddle and then some.
Thank you both.thats helpful
Teskey's ranch saddles with an association tree in them fit a horse pretty good and are strong enough to rope something big out of them. I have had 3 of them. Corriente saddles have had some really bad issues with some of their construction hardware. Their stirrup leathers tend to wear out pretty quick because they use leather from the belly instead of the strong back leather. It honestly depends on who is making them that day. If you are really serious about getting into riding, I would recommend buying the best you can afford. I have a custom built saddle and there is night and day difference in quality between it and a my Teskey saddles. It cost 3 times as much, but it will last me the rest of my lifetime.
I heard you say forking your horse. Would you please explain that meaning? Great video, thank you for posting.
Forking your horse means you’re not sitting back on your pockets with your feet jacked out in front of you and braced against the stirrups putting you in chair seat. It means you’re in a well balanced position and riding the horse, not the saddle.
Different types of metals need different types of addives.
Where are some good places to check for becoming a Wrangler?
Texas is my stepping grounds partner.
There is a website called ranchworldads.com. That is a really good place to begin looking. They have a page on there where places of employment do job listings.
I assume that this is a ranch saddle by the way it looks i have a question can you do a posting trot in a saddle like this i know certain saddles put you in different positions and it was just a curious thought that came to mind
Yes, you can. It is possible to post in most, if not all saddles, just harder in some than others. In any saddle that puts you in a chair seat position or has swells close to your legs it is more difficult. A properly built ranch saddle, especially a slick fork like this, has no swells to get in the way and should have you in a well balanced position and should be easy to post in.
I have a horse that will not go forward she will going backward every time you try to get her to go forward can you help me is a quart
Personally, I wouldn't buy a saddle, especially a Western saddle, without having a professional saddle fitter vet it first. Just lack of experience.
That is very wise. You treat your horse right, you’re that much better off.
Have you ever touchy about doing voice-over work?
I think if you do a livestream one day and open the super chats you will be pleasantly surprised at how much people appreciate you and your message.
You never measure a saddle from the horn. The correct measurement is taken from the back of the swell top of hand hole to the top of cantle. Biggest factor that effects fit is the thigh measurement, and that is taken from the point of the cantle to the bottom edge of the swell.
What’s a good price for a saddle there’s someone that makes them a few towns over they charge over 2000
It is been my experience that for a good working saddle, $2000 is about the base starting price.
What make is this saddle
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Martin Roach
And every saddle I try is way TOO big. The stirrups are too long. I'm annoyed
I'm only 5 ft 2. I CANNOT find any western saddle that fits me. 🤬
Has anyone watched Unbranded on RUclips! WoW what a cool documentary of 4 young cowboy's who ride wild mustangs from Mexico to Canada! What a very cool film! A Mustang is one solid horse! God bless Justice Clarence Thomas and Donald J Trump
Well I couldn't watch your video.
No saddle seat measures from the horn .
Tennessee? Caution...."Big Lick" is being outlawed because of abuse of the Tennessee Walker horse breed!
I’m kind of not sure why I need to caution. I do not deal with Tennessee Walking Horses and I have nothing to do with Big Lick. But thank you for the heads up.
I wouldn’t buy a bigger saddle. I’d probably change the way I’m eating
You and your horse will be better off
I have such a hard time with these videos. I'm really interested in the subject matter but Dewayne ALWAYS sets himself up as the lone voice of reason in an uptight, ignorant, clueless world. The saddle pad video was the same. Same superior tone. And btw, seat length on a western saddle isn't typically measured from the horn; it's measured from the back of the fork (pommel).
I believe you're mistaken. Dewayne doesn't try to be the superiority. He just knows things from common sense and life-long experience, which is something this world is very lacking in. His tone is not condescending or anything of the sort. He is confident in his knowledge of the subject and that confidence is what you're hearing. I'm younger than many of the riders and trainers in my area by a long margin, and I never pretend to be better than them or try to make them think I'm better, but they come to me and ask me their questions because I am confident in what I know, and they know it and want to learn. The same is here with Dewayne. He's just trying to help people out. He IS one of the few true voices of reason left in this world. For the most part, I'm sorry to say, but the world IS ignorant and clueless. There are some who know things still, but the decrease in common sense and actual knowledge from what it was 200, or even 50 years ago is astonishing and terrifying. It makes me sad to think of it. Dewayne is a wealth of information. Try listening and learning. If it's too hard for you, then you must know that he does know more than you, but you can't admit that to anyone, even yourself, so instead, you bash him. I hope that's not the case, but that is what it appears to be. Please try watching more of his videos with open eyes and ears and see if you can't learn something. I don't mean to be rude, and I hope I didn't come across that way, I'm just trying help out. Thank you. Have a great day!
@epona9166 I’m always learning, and I would be happy to hear your view on any subject where you feel I am wrong. As per your comment on how to measure a saddle seat, you are 100% correct. The measurement is from the pommel to the back of the cantle. It’s very hard to keep one’s thoughts in order, record a video with no cuts, and no edit while also concentrating on the camera without making a mistake.
@@kristencora Thanks for the psychoanalysis, but I have zero problem acknowledging that Dewayne knows more than I do about horses. Besides, you miss the point. It has nothing to do with Dewayne's knowledge or experience, which is obviously considerable. It's that in some of his videos the "setup" is that we horse people are not choosing our tack wisely, or are overspending, whatever, and he's going to set us straight. It's obvious from the comments that many of this channel's viewers don't know much, if anything, about horses. But for those of us who do, and who have put a great deal of thought and research into everything we do with our horses, and who know that one-size-fits-all is simply not true, the premise can be mighty off-putting.
@@epona9166 Even though I'm quite advanced and start and train horses and retrain rescues and have tuned up a mare for a state renowned trainer, I don't hesitate to acknowledge that Dewayne has far more experience than I. It's good to see you do as well. It's sad to say that most people have no clue what they're doing. For those of us who do, that is awesome, but in my area, or for a couple hundred miles around, I only know of one person besides myself that knows one size does not fit all. Even a state renowned trainer I know has no clue. It's sad. These videos though, were not made for those of us who know this stuff, but for those who don't. Dewayne has even said this in multiple videos, that this is to help the new green young rider and give them a little guidance. Unless I'm mistaken, he even said that in this video. After all, why would those of us who know these things watch these videos? I only watch videos on subjects I know to see other view points or to see if they're worth sharing to those who don't know. There are many people I know who think if the saddle is easy to carry in one hand, is pink, one of China's virgin lamb shearling (synthetic) and China's high end leather (synthetic/cordura/ or whatever they make now), and has all the pretties on it it must be great for the horse. Sadly, that's not the case, and that's what way too many people think. I know Dewayne meant these videos are to help them understand the truth, not to make those of us who actually know these things to look dumb. Have a wonderful day!