Öne of the best teacher in the world.... I personally met in conference in 2018 in manshera... He is mind blowing personality.... As teacher who Borden our perspective on politics... God always bless you sir
Taimur Sahab, I have seen very few people in my life, who have such understanding of political history. The way you connected dots is marvelous. That's called the application of deductive methodology.
A highly informative lecture. Well researched. With passage of time many problems will disappear and ultimately harmony will be established. When people of high calibre intellectuals like you there, better days are certainly going to come.
National integration can not be achieved as long as Punjab and Punjabis would continue to dominate armed forces,society, business,politics, beaurocracy, and other fields.
This was the best breakdown on Pakistan identity crisis with use of Political methodology, regional history and thought process of India & Pakistan founding fathers.
Wonderful timing sir i was having such a hard time wrapping my head around the conventional sheikh ahmad sirhindi shahwali ullah and than Ssak TwoNT ratta as the foundation of muslim nationalism. We can give ourselves as many mental orgasms as we want with the lack or failure of a myriad elements as the cause of national disintegration. But infact the reality is we have never invested in actually creating a national identity besides the one we imagined as a discursive tool for furthering our cause (thanks alot for the fresh perspective)
Very informative and useful lecture to understand the strategy of nationalism. Added to this, there were many other factors running in parallel before the independence and it gets more complicated after the independence when a newly created state lost their key leaders and captured by the bureaucracy and military. With the character of Muhammad Ali Jinnah I am confident that his idea of a post independent country was totally different of what it has become under the dominance of poor intellect rulers. The correct word to explain the situation is قحط الرجال.
Jinnah could happily see Direct Action 1946 at Calcutta but was misfortuned not to witness abd weep at Bangladesh only a few km away from Calcutta. in 1971.
*We need* to look at both sides ....the atrocities perpetrated upon the people of South Asia....upon the Muslims & non Muslims by both the bigger communities. Why was South Asia divided while today equal or more Muslims are living in the present India ? Who spread rumours of the killing of Muslims by Sikhs & Hindus and vice-versa ? And why...? Innumerable non Muslims were also killed in 1947. The main reason for starting such communal atrocities was non religious....those were the properties... movable and immovable. Even immigrant Muslim were plundered, looted and killed in their Lahore camps, just to deprive them of their precious valuables. The Mall road Lahore and other near vicinity business / trading areas of Lahore were in red blood owing to loot & plunder / killing by local (Muslim) population. *Need not to further mention by whom....!!!* Who got the calculated benefits of the division of South Asia...as of today ? Was oil , the "Liquid Gold" main reason to deter USSR by dividing South Asia....by the then two super power ? We need to recall division of South Asia and post WWs politics with reference to.... ........, Newly independent majority poor nation states, New colonialism, Imperialism, Economic-cum-military aid, Industrialization, Nixon's- Nexus of 1969 for $-based oil trading, PL-480 aid , Rise of American International Banking system & it's spread, Cartelization by MNCs / their colossal profits, Role of WB/ADB & IMF, ME politics, Afghan war ..... etc etc .. ..
Dr Taimur, please have the courage to say that Quad e Azam, and not government of Pakistan, said Urdu will be the national language in Decca in 1948 that kick started the Bengali nationalist movement.
Unity is through accepting or recongnising diversity of our state. We are not a single nation instead of it we are multinational state. Way forward we have to bring equality in all form like politics,language,culture and at last give freedom of speech and then solve the issue of speaker.
Dr Taimur sb... SALAAM 🌻 Thanks for the dissemination of your knowledge. In the words of Khalil Gibran, "Was it I who spoke ? Was I not also a listener ? " My Query : Did Jinnah know that South Asia is going to be divided by the then "intelligence agencies of the USA / UK ? If yes. Then who is responsible for the butchering of (unofficially) two million innocent by birth Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs ....as well as displacement / migration of three million peacefully living people ? Why loot and plunder based butchering was named as ethnic killing ? Stay blessed with your family and friends 🏵️ Regards 🍀🍁
But sir like us india too is a multi cultural county and is doing great especially in terms of economy and IT sector, why would the identity crisis can only be seen in Pakistan whereas india is far politically stable county than Pakistan. Like you said we adopted the model of nationalism in the race of anti-colonialism spontaneously india did the same, then why there is a very clear demarcation between both ?
آسمان سے گرے کھجور میں اٹکے۔ہندو اکثریت سے بھاگے دوسری اکثریت سے واسطہ پڑا۔ Well presented and articulated the case.Acceptin the country to be a multiple nation is the only way out to make it a success story.
it was a great presentation but we are aware that there is a problem with Pakistan but how it can be fixed. If you ask that question a first standard class student he will be capable of answering that question . the real problem is how we can achieve that goal.
Integration is impossible, for instance, Balochistan shares the largest land but the population is the smallest, richest in resources but yet poorest, As they are the smallest population their vote will never matter in the federal system for decision making. being the richest with natural resources and land with a different identity and history, are they stupid to give up their resources, culture, identity, land, and history to integrate into a brutal useless state????? What does she have to offer for Baloch and Pashtuns???
Sub continent should be a union territory, with local government but under federal umbrella!! Federal shou control, defences, forugn policy, federal taxation, and few more things!! This shou not be divide into 3 parts India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are totally a blunders
Professor sahb u took a long trp of the world to reach at the end to multination concept. I agree that a multination or a fedration sort of provincial arrangment wud have been the best. Mujeeb has in fact suggested the same solution in his 6 points which was interpreted as treason by army. Anyway there r some big hindrances first to work on n pass first. Among it are: Changing british colonial governance style ie non democratic authoritarian, feudal based n religiously segmented society. Our origin n current system is continuation of British colonial system replacing Britain with army estb.
What about equality in institutes?? Is nation for an institution or institution of for nation... This point is not highlighted and discussion is missing.
Lesson learned would be dont be short sighted like Jinnah, Pakistan ban naye baqi dekh lengy. This is what you get then, you'll get something like Pakistan because you promised various groups various things, after materialization, those groups would always keep colliding into a neverending chaotic cycle.
@@Taimur_Laal English is certainly not your native language; may be Punjabi is. Also, people who have the bad habit of switching languages while speaking are in fact butchering culture. Urdu is a sweet language. You need to take pleasure in speaking it to your audience in Pakistan. If you want to speak English, then go ahead and speak English. But please avoid mixing the two. Mixing indicates one's lack of facility in both languages.
U r propagating wt is written by them😂 Empires were broken bcoz defense budget crossed interest of debt services. Watch cash flow of spaun empire uk empire and now usa. Empire.
For Zafar iqbAl who said:Very good step by the professor Shamiul Islam to strengthen the relationship between the two ethnic communities .My question , are these Bangali members of BULF literary aware of Urdu language and it's work ??? Answer : today we Bengalis understand more Iqbal than Pakistanis...I have talked with lums professor taimur Rahman who is very popular in Pakistan but found him stupid and ignorant because He don't know German philosophy...qisar raza and pervez hood boy more stupid than taimur Rahman...
@@Taimur_LaalFor Zafar iqbAl who said:Very good step by the professor Shamiul Islam to strengthen the relationship between the two ethnic communities .My question , are these Bangali members of BULF literary aware of Urdu language and it's work ??? Answer : today we Bengalis understand more Iqbal than Pakistanis...I have talked with lums professor taimur Rahman who is very popular in Pakistan but found him stupid and ignorant because He don't know German philosophy...qisar raza and pervez hood boy more stupid than taimur Rahman...
Interpretation of Muslims?? This Clean-shaved, leather-Jacket Professor is ultimately talking same Logic and Reason , same to same as a Madrassa Scholar. The Level of Pakistani Intellect.
It wasn't Bengali nationalism but so many other factors that became the reason for the secession of East Bengal. If any ideology may be tagged to BOTH leaders of east and west wings, then it should be a mild variant of National Socialism. They were neither liberals nor did they represent the National Bourgeoisie and it's National Democratic charter. We can have national integration through the introduction of Sindhu Boli dialects as a compulsory subject that connects our geographical linguistic and cultural dots from Hindkoh in the north to Hindavi in the east and Sindhi in the South. We haven't even understood our defined our cultural historical region because we don't want to recognise our people for who they are and don't wish to acknowledge our true identity. We're like the lost tribes of Israel who were lost primarily due to the same rabbinical dogma which has poisoned our National soul not just since 47 but since several centuries which witnessed the growing influence of turko persiates and their lackeys in the land of the pure. We first need to get rid of those evil ghosts that are haunting us so that we are properly decolonized. The Brits were not the first Westerners nor the first colonisers. If westernization is such a great evil, then that de-westernization must start from centuries before the Brits came. The economic exploitation and plunder of our resources and ethnic / cultural cleansing unleashed at our people for centuries by these Turko persians is the reason for our today's National identity crises since it was the same bastardised elite which dragged us through an ill thoughtout and badly planned partition to preserve their own false titles gains and identity which was built on our backs and through our bloody sacrifices. These good for nothing foreign ingrates have molested our national character consciousness and self-image as a people society and nation. Decolonising the mind is as much important as liberating our land from foreign occupation and dominion. Nothing short of complete independence!
What you've got to say is extremely valuable. But your reach is limited bcz the public likes engaging and entertaining content. You'll have to think of unique creative ways to get your message across.
Öne of the best teacher in the world....
I personally met in conference in 2018 in manshera...
He is mind blowing personality....
As teacher who Borden our perspective on politics...
God always bless you sir
Taimur Sahab, I have seen very few people in my life, who have such understanding of political history. The way you connected dots is marvelous. That's called the application of deductive methodology.
Thank you. Please do share.
Very Appreciated Video Great Teaching Skills Very Understandable Pakistan Need More Teacher Like Sir Taimoor
Love 💕 sir thank you for great work ❤ Laal ❤
So nice of you
Thats why u need to learn more. Vishnh Puran 2.3.1 उत्तरं यत्समुद्रस्य हिमाद्रेश्चैव दक्षिणम् । वर्षं तद् भारतं नाम भारती यत्र संततिः
A highly informative lecture. Well researched. With passage of time many problems will disappear and ultimately harmony will be established. When people of high calibre intellectuals like you there, better days are certainly going to come.
Great contribution for understanding and logical perspective.
National integration can not be achieved as long as Punjab and Punjabis would continue to dominate armed forces,society, business,politics, beaurocracy, and other fields.
This was the best breakdown on Pakistan identity crisis with use of Political methodology, regional history and thought process of India & Pakistan founding fathers.
Enjoying your lecture from the hostel 4 of Punjab University
Such an amazing and wholesome explanation. Such clarity. Thanks. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Glad it was helpful!
I really like this content❤
Thankyou sir
Wonderful timing sir i was having such a hard time wrapping my head around the conventional sheikh ahmad sirhindi shahwali ullah and than Ssak TwoNT ratta as the foundation of muslim nationalism. We can give ourselves as many mental orgasms as we want with the lack or failure of a myriad elements as the cause of national disintegration.
But infact the reality is we have never invested in actually creating a national identity besides the one we imagined as a discursive tool for furthering our cause (thanks alot for the fresh perspective)
Great sir you are real political teacher...i am very amuse on listening of your lectures
Walaikumusalam..
This is good initiative.. thank you
Sir g.
ساری مطالعہ پاکستان کو مغالطہ پاکستان بنا دیا ہے۔ 😢
Thank you for this new, and real perspective of national realities.
Amazing lecture ❤❤
Glad you liked it
What about sacrifice of our souldier, citizen, how can Indian citizens forget and forgive Kargil, Kandhar, 2008 Mumbai attack ????
Much needed
Very informative and useful lecture to understand the strategy of nationalism. Added to this, there were many other factors running in parallel before the independence and it gets more complicated after the independence when a newly created state lost their key leaders and captured by the bureaucracy and military. With the character of Muhammad Ali Jinnah I am confident that his idea of a post independent country was totally different of what it has become under the dominance of poor intellect rulers. The correct word to explain the situation is قحط الرجال.
Jinnah could happily see Direct Action 1946 at Calcutta but was misfortuned not to witness abd weep at Bangladesh only a few km away from Calcutta. in 1971.
Dr sb i used to see your RUclips videos and give mashallah very valuable contents
The best lecture on this topic I have ever seen.
Kudos to video editor (highlighting important points and all)
*We need* to look at both sides ....the atrocities perpetrated upon the people of South Asia....upon the Muslims & non Muslims by both the bigger communities.
Why was South Asia divided while today equal or more Muslims are living in the present India ?
Who spread rumours of the killing of Muslims by Sikhs & Hindus and vice-versa ? And why...?
Innumerable non Muslims were also killed in 1947. The main reason for starting such communal atrocities was non religious....those were the properties... movable and immovable.
Even immigrant Muslim were plundered, looted and killed in their Lahore camps, just to deprive them of their precious valuables.
The Mall road Lahore and other near vicinity business / trading areas of Lahore were in red blood owing to loot & plunder / killing by local (Muslim) population.
*Need not to further mention by whom....!!!*
Who got the calculated benefits of the division of South Asia...as of today ?
Was oil , the "Liquid Gold" main reason to deter USSR by dividing South Asia....by the then two super power ?
We need to recall division of South Asia and post WWs politics with reference to....
........,
Newly independent majority poor nation states,
New colonialism,
Imperialism,
Economic-cum-military aid,
Industrialization,
Nixon's- Nexus of 1969 for $-based oil trading,
PL-480 aid ,
Rise of American International Banking system & it's spread,
Cartelization by MNCs / their colossal profits,
Role of WB/ADB & IMF, ME politics,
Afghan war ..... etc etc
..
..
Very nicely explained
Dr Sb, you are doing a great job to enlighten us. Stay blessed Amin.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
The answer is ‘no.’ Any other questions? 😆
Well explained sir
Sir you are doing great service to us❤
It's my pleasure
Absolutely outstanding 👏 👌 🙌 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Dr Taimur, please have the courage to say that Quad e Azam, and not government of Pakistan, said Urdu will be the national language in Decca in 1948 that kick started the Bengali nationalist movement.
Sir please invite Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed and have a Detailed Podcast with him. It will break all records.
Ishtiaq Ahmed is a fraud. He has his own agenda.
Jinnah was brilliant lawyer and below mediocre politician. Evidence: 1948 Ambulance. 2024 state of the politics reaching at its peak with PDM 2.0.
Thank you sir
Welcome
Sir 🖤
Unity is through accepting or recongnising diversity of our state. We are not a single nation instead of it we are multinational state. Way forward we have to bring equality in all form like politics,language,culture and at last give freedom of speech and then solve the issue of speaker.
Very beautifully explained- absolutely right we need pluristic model for integrity in Pakistan rather than exclusive model (forced uniformity)
Dr Taimur sb...
SALAAM 🌻
Thanks for the dissemination of your knowledge. In the words of Khalil Gibran,
"Was it I who spoke ?
Was I not also a listener ? "
My Query :
Did Jinnah know that South Asia is going to be divided by the then "intelligence agencies of the USA / UK ? If yes. Then who is responsible for the butchering of (unofficially) two million innocent by birth Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs ....as well as displacement / migration of three million peacefully living people ?
Why loot and plunder based butchering was named as ethnic killing ?
Stay blessed with your family and friends 🏵️
Regards 🍀🍁
Questions:
How would you square multi- nationality with the right to self-determination?
But sir like us india too is a multi cultural county and is doing great especially in terms of economy and IT sector, why would the identity crisis can only be seen in Pakistan whereas india is far politically stable county than Pakistan. Like you said we adopted the model of nationalism in the race of anti-colonialism spontaneously india did the same, then why there is a very clear demarcation between both ?
Last ten mnts directly hit the grounded issues
آسمان سے گرے کھجور میں اٹکے۔ہندو اکثریت سے بھاگے دوسری اکثریت سے واسطہ پڑا۔
Well presented and articulated the case.Acceptin the country to be a multiple nation is the only way out to make it a success story.
it was a great presentation but we are aware that there is a problem with Pakistan but how it can be fixed. If you ask that question a first standard class student he will be capable of answering that question . the real problem is how we can achieve that goal.
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Integration is impossible, for instance, Balochistan shares the largest land but the population is the smallest, richest in resources but yet poorest, As they are the smallest population their vote will never matter in the federal system for decision making. being the richest with natural resources and land with a different identity and history, are they stupid to give up their resources, culture, identity, land, and history to integrate into a brutal useless state????? What does she have to offer for Baloch and Pashtuns???
Dr. Taimoor avoided addressing the alleged maneuvers of the British behind the creation of Pakistan.
Sub continent should be a union territory, with local government but under federal umbrella!! Federal shou control, defences, forugn policy, federal taxation, and few more things!! This shou not be divide into 3 parts India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are totally a blunders
Seems Jinna took revenge with the Indian subcontinent people
Professor sahb u took a long trp of the world to reach at the end to multination concept. I agree that a multination or a fedration sort of provincial arrangment wud have been the best. Mujeeb has in fact suggested the same solution in his 6 points which was interpreted as treason by army. Anyway there r some big hindrances first to work on n pass first. Among it are:
Changing british colonial governance style ie non democratic authoritarian, feudal based n religiously segmented society. Our origin n current system is continuation of British colonial system replacing Britain with army estb.
What about equality in institutes?? Is nation for an institution or institution of for nation... This point is not highlighted and discussion is missing.
Lesson learned would be dont be short sighted like Jinnah, Pakistan ban naye baqi dekh lengy.
This is what you get then, you'll get something like Pakistan because you promised various groups various things, after materialization, those groups would always keep colliding into a neverending chaotic cycle.
My comment on Pak generals has been removed.
Hi RUclips/ Dr Taimur / Munir / LUMS
Secular, socialist, democratic, republic bana dijiye. Sab thik ho jaega
Where is Pakistan's Identity crises I can't see them anywhere kindly share them with me...
J.V Stalin's: Marxism and the National Question
Sir Pakistan ki nationalism ki base hai magar leaders to sare imperial society k th iska matlab Islam ko sirf as a name use kia gaya..
Why are you switching between Urdu and English? Why don't you speak just one language--English or Urdu? You sound shallow when you keep switching.
@@DollarBill1981 because I’m bilingual and so is my audience. Sometimes I even speak in Punjabi.
@@Taimur_Laal English is certainly not your native language; may be Punjabi is. Also, people who have the bad habit of switching languages while speaking are in fact butchering culture. Urdu is a sweet language. You need to take pleasure in speaking it to your audience in Pakistan. If you want to speak English, then go ahead and speak English. But please avoid mixing the two. Mixing indicates one's lack of facility in both languages.
@ for me it indicates an ease and comfort in both languages.
U r propagating wt is written by them😂 Empires were broken bcoz defense budget crossed interest of debt services. Watch cash flow of spaun empire uk empire and now usa. Empire.
Sir first view ❤
trophy milni chaye bhai ko 🤭
Thank you for watching!
জার্মান নেশন ও জাপান নেশন দুই জাতি ব্রিটিশ ও ফ্রেন্চ এর মত না।
For Zafar iqbAl who said:Very good step by the professor Shamiul Islam to strengthen the relationship between the two ethnic communities .My question , are these Bangali members of BULF literary aware of Urdu language and it's work ???
Answer : today we Bengalis understand more Iqbal than Pakistanis...I have talked with lums professor taimur Rahman who is very popular in Pakistan but found him stupid and ignorant because
He don't know German philosophy...qisar raza and pervez hood boy more stupid than taimur Rahman...
Sir, let everyone become true Muslim follow Islam. Integration will automatically happen.
That formula has proven to be a failure.
@@Taimur_LaalFor Zafar iqbAl who said:Very good step by the professor Shamiul Islam to strengthen the relationship between the two ethnic communities .My question , are these Bangali members of BULF literary aware of Urdu language and it's work ???
Answer : today we Bengalis understand more Iqbal than Pakistanis...I have talked with lums professor taimur Rahman who is very popular in Pakistan but found him stupid and ignorant because
He don't know German philosophy...qisar raza and pervez hood boy more stupid than taimur Rahman...
What is the fun of editing these dumb internet pics in the talk ,i dnt want to rate u in any category of "dumb" pls
Interpretation of Muslims?? This Clean-shaved, leather-Jacket Professor is ultimately talking same Logic and Reason , same to same as a Madrassa Scholar. The Level of Pakistani Intellect.
It wasn't Bengali nationalism but so many other factors that became the reason for the secession of East Bengal.
If any ideology may be tagged to BOTH leaders of east and west wings, then it should be a mild variant of National Socialism.
They were neither liberals nor did they represent the National Bourgeoisie and it's National Democratic charter.
We can have national integration through the introduction of Sindhu Boli dialects as a compulsory subject that connects our geographical linguistic and cultural dots from Hindkoh in the north to Hindavi in the east and Sindhi in the South.
We haven't even understood our defined our cultural historical region because we don't want to recognise our people for who they are and don't wish to acknowledge our true identity. We're like the lost tribes of Israel who were lost primarily due to the same rabbinical dogma which has poisoned our National soul not just since 47 but since several centuries which witnessed the growing influence of turko persiates and their lackeys in the land of the pure.
We first need to get rid of those evil ghosts that are haunting us so that we are properly decolonized. The Brits were not the first Westerners nor the first colonisers.
If westernization is such a great evil, then that de-westernization must start from centuries before the Brits came.
The economic exploitation and plunder of our resources and ethnic / cultural cleansing unleashed at our people for centuries by these Turko persians is the reason for our today's National identity crises since it was the same bastardised elite which dragged us through an ill thoughtout and badly planned partition to preserve their own false titles gains and identity which was built on our backs and through our bloody sacrifices.
These good for nothing foreign ingrates have molested our national character consciousness and self-image as a people society and nation.
Decolonising the mind is as much important as liberating our land from foreign occupation and dominion.
Nothing short of complete independence!
What you've got to say is extremely valuable. But your reach is limited bcz the public likes engaging and entertaining content. You'll have to think of unique creative ways to get your message across.
The best lecture on this topic I have ever seen.
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