Plant, plant, plant on low pH soils. I've successfully planted food plots on 4.8 pH and lower soils. Rye Grain, Rapeseed and Buckwheat will grow on poor, low sunlight soils. Plants will amend the soils. Nice video.
😝 oh so true. I opened up 3 acres this year with a bulldozer. I knew the soil would have low PH but I wasn’t ready to see 4 tons per acre to amend soil. From watching videos of yours and other videos you can only add so much lime at 1 time. Realistically I don’t think I will have an established food source for at least 4 years. Property is a couple hours away and with work and family I am only able to get up a couple times a years before the season. 2 separate applications of pellet lime ,1 ton each application. Going to try plot start and plot boost for a third application when I plant for the season. 👍 video Dave.
I’m in the same boat, my ph was 4.3, it’s a new lease that fell into my lap a few months before season started this year, only had time to bushhog it, spray with round up. Then tilled it and planted wheat/ oats and Austrian winter peas. I knew pretty quickly there was issue. I live 4 hours away so getting equipment up there is hard to do. I’m looking into hiring someone to spread bulk lime or rent a buggy from feed store there and spread myself. It would be impossible to spread 4 tons using 40# bags. I’m going to try and get it done in January so but late August it may help some. Good luck
Thanks. This video was a big help. My soil sample came in from penn state. It was devastating😮 4.9 ph. The soil looks so good but I guess not. So I started with 400# of pelletized lime on my 1/3 acre today and plan on doing another 400 soon. The P and K are very close to adequate. The cec is 13.6. They recommend 8,000# lime per acre. Thats 2,660 lime for this plot. I got a ways to go and it won’t all happen this year. Would buckwheat still be a good option for soil building in this case? And would foliar feeding be a better option for fertilizer with such low ph?
Yes it should be ok if you been adding lime and add some at planting as well even if it’s a couple bags. Save your money on fertilizer and use it toward lime.
Look here I don't know if it's different for different places. I've had a consistent 2000# per acre lime application for years. Well year after year I have planted and the deer have eat them to the ground every year since I began. You can plant different things to help with helping the pH.
I don’t know the exact answer to that. From what I’ve seen/noticed/experienced in the food plot world if you can get 10 - 12 that’s pretty good. The higher it is just means the more capacity the soil has to hold nutrients so you would get more bang for your buck when adding fertilizer. Most of my plots are about 15-18 but I have seen it where you can get in the 20’s
Impossible for anyone to answer that. Only a soil sample can tell you how Much there’s a lot of factors. A general rule of thumb is 2000 pounds per acre to raise the point by 1. That’s very general. A
They are good. They will eat them but there needs to be a balance. If your entire property of honey suckle then it’s no good at all. There needs to be a variety of food available
Yes I have and they are junk. Not only are they not accurate it only shows ph. That’s only a small piece to the puzzle. The only way to accurately test soil is by taking a sample and sending it out. It’s 14 dollars.
That means I’m taking what’s there and discing it back into the soil. It’s adding green manure. No need to spray and kill something that you already planted. Just disc and plant your fall plot
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors My problem there is I have weeds/grass that likes to take over in one plot, but I'm going to work on that with winter wheat cover crop and maybe buckwheat in the summer. Thank you for making all of these videos and answering questions.
Love these videos and the channel as a whole. My new land is full or rocks and low ph soil. I would not give up. We cleared what we could, used lime and fertilizer and started clover trails and one main buckwheat plot. Is it spotty, yes! But is it better than nothing- absolutely! And each year will get better soils
Plant, plant, plant on low pH soils. I've successfully planted food plots on 4.8 pH and lower soils. Rye Grain, Rapeseed and Buckwheat will grow on poor, low sunlight soils. Plants will amend the soils. Nice video.
Yes they will definitely help for sure. Having bare soil is the devil! Worst thing ever when trying to improve things.
Thanks 🙏 👍👌🌱🍀✔️🦌
A food plot always need something growing in it regardless of what amendments you need to make for future crops. Keep building OM! 🏹
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Yes sir main point is adding to that bank account and anything is better than nothing
For sure Steve. Can’t get anything out of it if you don’t out anything into it. Every little bit helps. What you do this year benefits next. 👍👌
Great job explaining the pros and cons, makes perfect sense. Thank you for helping me learn your methods!👍 Keep the info- coming!
You are very welcome thanks for watching
Ive been watching your channel since January. Appreciate all the information and ideas. Ive learned alot. Great videos !
Awesome thank you. Glad they have helped you that’s the main goal. 👌
😝 oh so true. I opened up 3 acres this year with a bulldozer. I knew the soil would have low PH but I wasn’t ready to see 4 tons per acre to amend soil. From watching videos of yours and other videos you can only add so much lime at 1 time. Realistically I don’t think I will have an established food source for at least 4 years. Property is a couple hours away and with work and family I am only able to get up a couple times a years before the season. 2 separate applications of pellet lime ,1 ton each application. Going to try plot start and plot boost for a third application when I plant for the season. 👍 video Dave.
I’m in the same boat, my ph was 4.3, it’s a new lease that fell into my lap a few months before season started this year, only had time to bushhog it, spray with round up. Then tilled it and planted wheat/ oats and Austrian winter peas. I knew pretty quickly there was issue. I live 4 hours away so getting equipment up there is hard to do. I’m looking into hiring someone to spread bulk lime or rent a buggy from feed store there and spread myself. It would be impossible to spread 4 tons using 40# bags. I’m going to try and get it done in January so but late August it may help some.
Good luck
Thanks. This video was a big help. My soil sample came in from penn state. It was devastating😮 4.9 ph. The soil looks so good but I guess not. So I started with 400# of pelletized lime on my 1/3 acre today and plan on doing another 400 soon. The P and K are very close to adequate. The cec is 13.6. They recommend 8,000# lime per acre. Thats 2,660 lime for this plot. I got a ways to go and it won’t all happen this year. Would buckwheat still be a good option for soil building in this case? And would foliar feeding be a better option for fertilizer with such low ph?
Yes it should be ok if you been adding lime and add some at planting as well even if it’s a couple bags. Save your money on fertilizer and use it toward lime.
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You’re definitely a Pennsylvanian! Warshing the soil. I love it!!!😀
😂😂😂 haha that’s funny.
Appreciate you and your videos. You have Definitely helped me a lot…especially knowing that we are dealing with similar settings
Great thank you appreciate that and your welcome.
Look here I don't know if it's different for different places. I've had a consistent 2000# per acre lime application for years. Well year after year I have planted and the deer have eat them to the ground every year since I began. You can plant different things to help with helping the pH.
Just curious, what's a good cec number.Im at 9.8 and 9.9?
I don’t know the exact answer to that. From what I’ve seen/noticed/experienced in the food plot world if you can get 10 - 12 that’s pretty good. The higher it is just means the more capacity the soil has to hold nutrients so you would get more bang for your buck when adding fertilizer. Most of my plots are about 15-18 but I have seen it where you can get in the 20’s
How much lime do I need to add to a 1/4 acre plot
Mail off a soil sample to your local ag extension. They will be able to shed light on that.
How much lime do I need to add to a 1/4 acre kill plot
Impossible for anyone to answer that. Only a soil sample can tell you how Much there’s a lot of factors. A general rule of thumb is 2000 pounds per acre to raise the point by 1. That’s very general. A
Are hunny suckle bushes bad or good for deer?
They are good. They will eat them but there needs to be a balance. If your entire property of honey suckle then it’s no good at all. There needs to be a variety of food available
You can spray them with liquid fertilizer in spring to help them be more appealing for whitetail
Have you tried these ph probes if so do they work?
Yes I have and they are junk. Not only are they not accurate it only shows ph. That’s only a small piece to the puzzle. The only way to accurately test soil is by taking a sample and sending it out. It’s 14 dollars.
When you say “work it back in the soil”. Does that mean work it in as green or killed off? Or either.
That means I’m taking what’s there and discing it back into the soil. It’s adding green manure. No need to spray and kill something that you already planted. Just disc and plant your fall plot
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors My problem there is I have weeds/grass that likes to take over in one plot, but I'm going to work on that with winter wheat cover crop and maybe buckwheat in the summer. Thank you for making all of these videos and answering questions.
Love these videos and the channel as a whole. My new land is full or rocks and low ph soil. I would not give up. We cleared what we could, used lime and fertilizer and started clover trails and one main buckwheat plot. Is it spotty, yes! But is it better than nothing- absolutely! And each year will get better soils
Awesome thank you. That’s how it’s done. Keep chipping away at it each year. What you do this year benefits next
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