During the Time of Reunion Event, when they introduced the new map, Little girl, Novelist and Nightmare, when u played as hunter you could activate this hiding trait. You would get invisible temporarily, no terror radius but your speed would get lowered. It’s exactly the same trait. Does anyone remember this too?
The only difference is in the global sever activating this trait in my perspective would give you a short speed boost, invisibility, no terror radius for a certain amount of time especially using your skills or using the normal attack interaction would make your hunter stop momentarily unable to attack immediately while getting out of concealment and you would continue where you left off.
If Sikey wasn't an idv RUclipsr he would be a great narrator for murder documentaries lmao P.S. Loved the video and I remember when the traid was firstly announced, I'm glad I now know why it was scrapped.
Not sure if you've talked about it before, i think it'd be cool if you talked about map changes. (Half the staircase got deleted from the factory area in Leo's Memory, it used to be longer + In Arms Factory, the window besides the cipher got changed to a pallet etc etc)
That area in Leo’s memory isn’t great but it’s way too overpowered on patient. He needs a nerf on that spot cause he can loop that spot three times without being hit and it takes a good 2.5 minutes to finish using all your hooks that way (hook up stairs outside, jump pallet, fall down the railing, repeat)
oh so that's what happens to leo's memory. I remember there were pallets n stuff on the staircase and it was longer, I just thought I was getting it confused with something else when I came back after a hiatus to see that it was removed.
very interesting. honestly I wish idv was similar to the old days, the more players join the harder the more advanced the game becomes, back then the game was considered hunter sided now every hunter complains about getting rushed or looped or stunned. honestly it would've been super interesting to see how this skill acted in game maybe survivors would've made new strategies or agreeable game rules like blink predictions or borrowed time I'm thinking the skill could've worked if it had some sort of sign or warning like the area that gets highlighted on the ground once sculptor uses her chisel but less noticeable if that makes sense?
Ehh i dont know, any amount of signal and good survivors will pick up on it. There are tons of inconsistencies with ripper's invisibility: He can teleport and break prisoner boxes without losing invisibility, but breaking batter balls and dancer boxes get rid of it. Its balanced for every other hunter, but maybe ripper should lose his invisibility if he triggers it.
honestly this trait getting added would be fine in 2022 idv, it would give some non-meta hunters more leniance. As for the original 7 being frustrating, the game has been out for so long these "frustrating" traits have been reballanced or have been disected by survivor mains to the point that they are easier to predict and counter despite them being "basically uncounterable". so that entire part of the video sounds like elk survivor main rage to me lol.
@@SikeyYT netease seems to have a problem with trying out new things as to not drastically upset the meta. Even when they said they would adress and make "cipher rush" changes, the most we got was an 8 second increase in cipher time. A negligable change. My suspicion, based on evidence from NetEase's previous design philosophy, along with their experiments going missing (i.e. leo's buff from a year ago going missing along with cold ticket from the test server) is that NetEase does not want to change the core fundemental elements of the game and it's design as to not upset the current balance the game is in, resulting in more work and more changes needing to be made. Tl;dr - they're essentially experimenting with changes and then cutting corners where they'd have to do even more work as a result of the changes' implementation. Which, honestly, makes no sense to me. Why would they NOT want more gameplay variety? More traits = more potential differing hunters in higher tiers or differing builds which = more players, but they don't seem to realise this... or they don't want to risk it. I think the real reason could be that they don't want to make major changes as they could hurt their profit margines, and corporations care about that the most.
This is honestly a shot in the dark, as it's a mistery to me as to why NetEase wouldn't want to support their live service game with frequent and significant updates. Also to quickly adress a thing i missed: I think they're more willing to test the waters with introducing new characters because they are a money investment for players usually. People will likely gamble for their S tier skins, so even if they release an underpowered/overpowered survivor/hunter they can simply adjust them as the situation needs. Why they wouldn't do this on a large scale by adding new traits or working on fixing cipher rush... i wouldn't know. I can only speculate that it's due to anxiety or corporate greed.
I completely agree with you, they're too afraid to change the game and it's the truth. Merc has been the same best survivor for literally 3 years now, and I haven't been afraid to admit that on my streams. As for why they're afraid, it makes no sense to me either. I feel they gain more than they lose by keeping the game fresh. So what if they introduce something totally broken, I MUCH rather anything be OP for a short time than keeping the same thing OP forever, because then it leads to just endless frustration caused by a sickness of the same old. That's why I used frustration as my reason, they could change the meta COMPLETELY and I wouldnt be frusturated by seeing something garbage be finally OP (though honestly it's also a more fun reason than just saying they dont wanna change the game)
@@johnrheycapilitan3674 Well yeah, many hunters could abuse it like Geisha and DW,,but I feel it would be even more broken for Ripper especially. At least with Geisha there’s an audio cue for her dash that isn’t affected by the heartbeat sound cause it’s a totally different audio cue. Plus if a survivor is looking around enough they could spot her. Ripper would have absolutely NO way to spot him when he turns completely invisible. No audio cue until he’s literally attacking you, no easy to see visuals, nothing like that. It’d be jump scares and terror shocks galore.
If being "frustrating" is the reason they're not adding any new traits why are they adding so many frustrating survivors like little girl, Novelist, current Ento and even the new dead hard like ability?
You listed stuff that's either very bad and outclassed by other better stuff in the meta or has a silver bullet counter. In case you are still confused: Novelist doesnt start with anything technically and is at the mercy of dodging hunter abilities raw. Little girl's page range is too small for every top hunter who has long range attacks, ento runs the huge risk of dying to BQ in just 2 hits, and dead hard after its nerf is detrimentally worse compared to broken windows due to its cooldown and lack of speed and distance even with a dodge hit.
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It's been so long they should at least add one new trait ngl I wouldn't care even if it's as bad as listen I just wanna see a new trait.. or maybe why not just make the persona tree bigger instead of replacing with other persona skills. I'd love to see something new and fun just giving new survivors and hunters isn't enough for me!
It use to cameback on Time on reunion event, and It suck, it suck so bad. it work like The Wraith from DBD. You can't hit survivor, you need to unclock it first before hit , and survivor still can saw it from a far away even though it's " Invisible"
Oh I swear I remember this trait in the time or reunion event, the exact same logo, it used to make you go invisible and (speed you up if i remember??)
Some people are saying it slowed you down actually. I do remember something like that, but it was so different and so bad that I couldnt even tell it had anything to do with this trait
i agree with the top comment that says this looks really similar to what hunters could do during Memory's/Little Girl's event. it seems to me like this trait was just too op? although the game is extremely survivor sided, id feel guilty using this as a hunter main lol. its just too powerful i do really want to know what that trait with the big eye looking at a survivor is though! it looks so cool! i do wonder if they scrapped the newest trait that was leaked though. it honestly doesnt seem very appealing to me anyway. or maybe they just scrapped it because it was leaked, the same way we didnt get mini Robbie/Axe Boy because people leaked the model
Im not sure what happened with that trait either. The short explanation is it countered transitioning since survivors could only go a set amount of distance away from the hunter without the survivor being stunned for 3 seconds, and the area gradually got smaller the longer it was in play. I didnt think it was appealing either
Hey, I actually remember seeing footage of this trait from a Douyin video of it from the CN test server. It used Ripper as an example of how it could be made useful and it was pretty much exactly as you speculated. I can't imagine the trait with Dream Witch.
netease: no new traits for hunter also netease, pushing flywheel into live under a sheet: nothing to see here I play both hunter and survivor, and it's significantly more frustrating to play hunter.
Thanks, but I actually used Dream's take on this investigation series. What better way to learn about investigative videos than to learn from the best. Instead of hating on him, people can use him to their advantage as he paved the path for what worked, and now we can use those same tactics in our video for greater dramatic effect and viewer retention. His style is also incredibly effective. The tone in the voice, almost as if the youtuber is having a conversation with you in person, as well as the music is really the killer here for interest. I used to watch him before he got millions of subs like now, and I rewatched his Minecract Mystery series since it was so effective at what it did and studied his tactics, from his voice, to the gameplay, to the order of topics, and the music. I only watched the shark one fully when studying it, but I looked at his others to compare for a bit.
@@SikeyYT Wow! I didn’t know that dream had another series relating to mindcraft. I honestly thought that he only did man-hunts. the overall tone of the video and the fact that the topic is kinda like “lost-media” is reminiscent of blameitonjorge. you should do a video dedicated lost media related to idv. keep up the good work!
Even though that hiding trait would be interesting I think they scrapped it simply because it wouldn't be much of a game changer for most hunters . Cuz Ripper gets an obvious benefit from this but he's really the only hunter who could really use it properly (any other character wouldn't sacrifice blink or teleport just to remove the light and heartbeat if theyr'e still visible). So they're not only unwilling to change the meta much but also the trait in the vid is, down to its concept, not good for 99% of hunters. Balancing this would be incompatible with jack too, since he'd be kinda broken
You can say the same thing for patroller: Unusable for 99% of hunters but broken on DW (Feaster is a maybe but good survivors wont give back to back hits even with patroller). So really just because it would only be broken on 1 hunter is not good enough to say that thats the reason why they didnt add it.
@@SikeyYT I think the patroller situation reaaally depends on whether they buff/nerf it because the ability itself is useful, it’s just not good enough for many hunters. For hiding however, down to its concept it wouldn’t have worked without adjustments because the hunter would still be visible and it would be kind of useless
The trait was recycled for time of reunion event the if my memory doesn’t fail me it was a built in trait for any hunter the game mode was to hide the little girl luring her with dolls as a hunter, and stop the survivors from finding her, if she’s found the hunter has to hunt down the survivor which little girl is in, ngl the bot was on the spot with her skills.too, but if you swing in invisible form would stay stunned for 3 seconds but used correctly you would pop out as Joseph pls correct me if wrong
I mean, I kinda disagree. It is a %100 frustrating to die quickly but I think these traits are the only things keeping hunters from losing to cipher rush all the time.
Im a little confused: How does this statement reflect why the lost trait wasnt added? Maybe you just meant this as a general statement about current traits.
@@SikeyYT well I was responding to your statement that hunter traits are abused and that’s why they haven’t added anymore. But traits like blink and patroller may be the only way some hunters can get a down, otherwise they’ll get kited the entire match. Cipher rush makes it so if you get kited you’re screwed.
As a hunter main, this would not be a good fix for anything. I do think new traits would be good, but the problem with this trait is not only would very few hunters benefit from it, it would create a frustrating issue with the gameplay its self for survivors. unlike many asym games, idv has a radar and much of the gameplay is visual. survivors are given audio and visual clues due to the fact that a mobile interface makes it harder to see things in general. not only that but some players may have the game muted when casually playing. thus the heartbeat having a visual as well. adding a trait that completely negates these core design elements would create frustration with casual players and issues with the game in general. traits in general currently are in i'd say a pretty good place. and due to the fact ANY hunter can use them, it's unsurprising they haven't added a new one. it creates a huge amount of variables for the devs to balance, when there's already so many things that can effect the game. adding personas is a better choice due to persona points being limited. ie; flywheel being implemented means either not having borrowed time or tide turner. so it balances easier. i will say some of the wording here feels a bit weird. because you talk about dream witch as if it's an easy win to use her, same with breaking wheel. when they take a lot of work to play properly and are still effected by looping and kiting strategies. breaking wheel can't just one hit down you out of nowhere. he has to have hit you multiple times for that to work. and that is entirely on the breaking wheel being good at hitting you. when most you can just circle back and forth around a tree and not get hit. and in normal quickplay, how many times do you see someone with the patience to play dream witch? these are extreme examples to use, when currently most hunters struggle with map control. and a game can be lost if you don't secure a down in 60 seconds. yes the game is much harder when you're with new players as survivor, but that's literally every asym game. people take time to learn. but it becomes far more in the favor of survivor once they learn the basic flow of the game. and the fact that a team can get 3 ciphers done (at least) within the time it takes one person to get downed and die on chair. the reason cipher rush is usually talked about is because as a hunter, one mistake can let you know you're going to tie or straight up lose. while survivors have to usually make multiple mistakes for the same outcome. but the game is not a simple thing to balance because it's meant to be fast paced and allow both sides a feeling of some control. frankly as someone who did play in 2019 took a break and came back in 2022, they have actually done a good job making a huge amount of changes over time to make multiple characters better or more fair. with far larger changes than what you normally see from a free game. the devs do pay attention far more than most, especially when it comes to an asym game which at this point are notoriously hard to balance. but by god i do hope at least for higher ranks they do something about cipher rush, because by god a team that knows what they're doing can have a game in their pocket within a minute, which is why almost every hunter is forced to bring detention or at least trump card.
Its a fine buff idea, but I think a better idea is to start with 2 traps and then pickup 6 other unarmed traps scattered around the map instead of waiting 5 years for more traps. Since gamekeeper has the hook, I dont think adding damage to traps is justifiable when he already has a way of chasing
@benji yeah bc survivor mains at least in naeu stick only to survivor bc they are too nervous to play hunter. Then they have poor game sense because they don’t understand hunter and then they suck at the game and rely on broken survivor abilities to win. Then they think BQ is broken bc they don’t know how to counter her, or maybe she’s broken because she’s a viable hunter in todays meta who consistently only ever ties. I wonder why she can only tie even after she gets an early down…💀 It’s just a cycle at this point. I could go on and on but I’d be wasting my breathe bc survivor mains complain the moment a hunter can actually win, or have a chance at winning.
I have played this game for 4 years at a competitive level; of course I dont think hunters have it easy, but Im also speaking as someone who expects perfect gameplay from hunters and dont have much difficulty using traits myself either. No one is perfect, but traits are one of the easier things to use you must admit. Who do you think knows more about traits: Hunters who main a few select hunters who must learn to use a handful of traits (assuming they main more than 1-2), or survivors who have to learn to beat every hunter + trait combo in this game? I hope you can get past my biases anyway, we all have them.
@@SikeyYT perfect gameplay for hunters doesn't matter because survivors have the means and abilities to support each other immensely. It's clear from any big tournament that hunters do not have it easy even with perfect gameplay, or even using a trait effectively. Also, a handful of traits? It is not that hard to counter more than 2 thirds of the hunter traits in this game LMAO. The only trait that has consistently been good is blink. And since you're bringing "competition" into this, what hunters are used the most? Polun, Dream Witch, Sculptor. And then what if they're banned? Blood Queen, Geisha, Naiad. And the other A- tier hunters are weak against harassment and are countered by transitional kiting. From a competitive and tournament standpoint why would you ever need to worry about seeing a Luchino or Wax Artist? That literally makes no sense Sikey because NO ONE PLAYS THEM. Even then it's easy to predict what they'll do and what trait they'll bring and top survivors should have no issue countering them. Complaining about traits being "easy to use" is such a hypocritical thing to say considering how easy it is to pick up survivor. Game sense is another thing, but mechanically survivor is not difficult whatsoever. Pressing a button and moving your screen around isn't hard Sikey LOL. Hunter is harder mechanically because you actually need skill to use your abilities, unlike priestess, merc, seer etc. Survivors don't have it as hard as hunters do and that's an undeniable fact. This game is survivor sided. It's not even bias at this point, you are literally delusional.
Sikey I know you never reply on comments but do you think buffing Listen trait where the hunters aren't slowed down when walking while using it and it also get more durability when using it each time. Would it be a good buff or still not that good and start with full durability at the beginning of the match.
Prob not listen is useless and just for beginners Like they ofc don’t know spawnpoints and also might not have tinnitus so they use listen 😭 plus it still wouldn’t be viable when something like blink exists
we probably arent going to get a new trait because of leakers, multiple skins have been delayed because of leakers and i wont be surprised if any new traits are removed because of leakers
Sikey if you played 4 years and are complaining about hunter traits being frustrating you clearly don’t understand the extent of how hard it is to play hunter. Everyones hunter makes mistakes and survivors make mistakes. No one is perfect. But survivors still have a chance to come back if they mess up, meanwhile hunters really don’t. There is really only 2 S tier Hunters which is wheel and DW but if you are complaining about only those two, what about all the S tier and A tier+ survs? Are you blind to how surv sided the game is? These 2 hunters are MADE to be S tier because they are the only ones who can really counter todays meta and they STILL STRUGGLE plus they are incredibly hard to learn. Please don’t let your bias lead to ignorance.
I do agree that the game tends to favor survivors, but that doesnt mean I cant find certain things about hunter annoying, and you cant deprive that opinion from me. Besides, this was more so to give a possible explanation as to why this trait wasnt added. Do note that I am not saying this is the ultimate unarguable reason, it's just a theory, A GAAAAMEEEE theory, thanks for watching! (No but seriously you cant tell me I dont have the right to find stuff frusturating)
From a balancing perspective: if I were the devs, I would nerf all S tiers on both sides to introduce a fresh meta. I agree you cant nerf one side without the other, and I wouldnt mind seeing weak stuff be broken by buffing it as long as it eventually gets nerfed and new stuff is introduced(similarly to how ento and acro were buffed and nerfed over a period of time) and thus the cycle repeats to keep things fresh
@@SikeyYT of cours people will start maining hunters that are op cause look at the survivors meta its broken, i watch alot of pro hunters gameplays the only reason they win is that they know the game mechanics and they mastered their mains but they still suffer from something called cipher rush even if the survivors dont know how to kit or get down easily survivors manage to decode all ciphers lets not forget that its 1 brain against 4
Exactly because it's unfair, hunters are overpowered yet sometimes even tho its 4 vs 1 yet the whole team would suck or mess up so it's mostly 1 vs 1 for me because I never get help as survivor they suck
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During the Time of Reunion Event, when they introduced the new map, Little girl, Novelist and Nightmare, when u played as hunter you could activate this hiding trait. You would get invisible temporarily, no terror radius but your speed would get lowered. It’s exactly the same trait. Does anyone remember this too?
I do
I dont. It mustve been much more different
oh that's what it was?? i kept trying to use it and didn't get what it was doing LMAO
I remember, it was called Conceal.
The only difference is in the global sever activating this trait in my perspective would give you a short speed boost, invisibility, no terror radius for a certain amount of time especially using your skills or using the normal attack interaction would make your hunter stop momentarily unable to attack immediately while getting out of concealment and you would continue where you left off.
If Sikey wasn't an idv RUclipsr he would be a great narrator for murder documentaries lmao
P.S. Loved the video and I remember when the traid was firstly announced, I'm glad I now know why it was scrapped.
True
Agree
OMG I SEEN THIS TRAIT A LONG TIME AGO and wondered what happened to it
Not sure if you've talked about it before, i think it'd be cool if you talked about map changes. (Half the staircase got deleted from the factory area in Leo's Memory, it used to be longer + In Arms Factory, the window besides the cipher got changed to a pallet etc etc)
That area in Leo’s memory isn’t great but it’s way too overpowered on patient. He needs a nerf on that spot cause he can loop that spot three times without being hit and it takes a good 2.5 minutes to finish using all your hooks that way (hook up stairs outside, jump pallet, fall down the railing, repeat)
That's a cool idea, thanks for the suggestion
oh so that's what happens to leo's memory. I remember there were pallets n stuff on the staircase and it was longer, I just thought I was getting it confused with something else when I came back after a hiatus to see that it was removed.
very interesting. honestly I wish idv was similar to the old days, the more players join the harder the more advanced the game becomes, back then the game was considered hunter sided now every hunter complains about getting rushed or looped or stunned. honestly it would've been super interesting to see how this skill acted in game maybe survivors would've made new strategies or agreeable game rules like blink predictions or borrowed time
I'm thinking the skill could've worked if it had some sort of sign or warning like the area that gets highlighted on the ground once sculptor uses her chisel but less noticeable if that makes sense?
Ehh i dont know, any amount of signal and good survivors will pick up on it. There are tons of inconsistencies with ripper's invisibility: He can teleport and break prisoner boxes without losing invisibility, but breaking batter balls and dancer boxes get rid of it. Its balanced for every other hunter, but maybe ripper should lose his invisibility if he triggers it.
honestly this trait getting added would be fine in 2022 idv, it would give some non-meta hunters more leniance. As for the original 7 being frustrating, the game has been out for so long these "frustrating" traits have been reballanced or have been disected by survivor mains to the point that they are easier to predict and counter despite them being "basically uncounterable". so that entire part of the video sounds like elk survivor main rage to me lol.
If you were me, what explanation would you give for this trait not coming to the game?
@@SikeyYT netease seems to have a problem with trying out new things as to not drastically upset the meta. Even when they said they would adress and make "cipher rush" changes, the most we got was an 8 second increase in cipher time. A negligable change. My suspicion, based on evidence from NetEase's previous design philosophy, along with their experiments going missing (i.e. leo's buff from a year ago going missing along with cold ticket from the test server) is that NetEase does not want to change the core fundemental elements of the game and it's design as to not upset the current balance the game is in, resulting in more work and more changes needing to be made. Tl;dr - they're essentially experimenting with changes and then cutting corners where they'd have to do even more work as a result of the changes' implementation. Which, honestly, makes no sense to me. Why would they NOT want more gameplay variety? More traits = more potential differing hunters in higher tiers or differing builds which = more players, but they don't seem to realise this... or they don't want to risk it. I think the real reason could be that they don't want to make major changes as they could hurt their profit margines, and corporations care about that the most.
This is honestly a shot in the dark, as it's a mistery to me as to why NetEase wouldn't want to support their live service game with frequent and significant updates. Also to quickly adress a thing i missed: I think they're more willing to test the waters with introducing new characters because they are a money investment for players usually. People will likely gamble for their S tier skins, so even if they release an underpowered/overpowered survivor/hunter they can simply adjust them as the situation needs.
Why they wouldn't do this on a large scale by adding new traits or working on fixing cipher rush... i wouldn't know. I can only speculate that it's due to anxiety or corporate greed.
I completely agree with you, they're too afraid to change the game and it's the truth. Merc has been the same best survivor for literally 3 years now, and I haven't been afraid to admit that on my streams. As for why they're afraid, it makes no sense to me either. I feel they gain more than they lose by keeping the game fresh. So what if they introduce something totally broken, I MUCH rather anything be OP for a short time than keeping the same thing OP forever, because then it leads to just endless frustration caused by a sickness of the same old. That's why I used frustration as my reason, they could change the meta COMPLETELY and I wouldnt be frusturated by seeing something garbage be finally OP (though honestly it's also a more fun reason than just saying they dont wanna change the game)
@@SikeyYT ah i see now what you meant, makes sense.
Oh I remember that one, I tried it out on the Beta server. It got scrapped because it was kinda broken on Reaper
Well any hunter can abuse this
What geisha she very fast can surprise survivor
@@johnrheycapilitan3674 Well yeah, many hunters could abuse it like Geisha and DW,,but I feel it would be even more broken for Ripper especially.
At least with Geisha there’s an audio cue for her dash that isn’t affected by the heartbeat sound cause it’s a totally different audio cue. Plus if a survivor is looking around enough they could spot her.
Ripper would have absolutely NO way to spot him when he turns completely invisible. No audio cue until he’s literally attacking you, no easy to see visuals, nothing like that. It’d be jump scares and terror shocks galore.
@@WitchInYourWalls yeah its like warith in dbd but with no bell ringing before attack u
@@WitchInYourWalls the reason y new traits were scraped cos of dream witch and wheel if tbose werent exist then yesh those traits maybe come to game
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If being "frustrating" is the reason they're not adding any new traits why are they adding so many frustrating survivors like little girl, Novelist, current Ento and even the new dead hard like ability?
You listed stuff that's either very bad and outclassed by other better stuff in the meta or has a silver bullet counter.
In case you are still confused: Novelist doesnt start with anything technically and is at the mercy of dodging hunter abilities raw. Little girl's page range is too small for every top hunter who has long range attacks, ento runs the huge risk of dying to BQ in just 2 hits, and dead hard after its nerf is detrimentally worse compared to broken windows due to its cooldown and lack of speed and distance even with a dodge hit.
@@SikeyYT there are so many frustrating things in idv, the things u mentioned r NOT that bad
Ayo i just realised they didnt implement the new trait that was showcased months ago💀💀💀
facts, it was about to happen again lol
Also they didn't add that thing where you can choose your spawn on a map
Apparently theyre adding that to the new game mode
My bro made it sound like a murder case
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Thank you so much, Its comments like yours that keep me going! It means a lot to hear from the quiet people; thank you for being here all these years!
It's been so long they should at least add one new trait ngl I wouldn't care even if it's as bad as listen I just wanna see a new trait.. or maybe why not just make the persona tree bigger instead of replacing with other persona skills. I'd love to see something new and fun just giving new survivors and hunters isn't enough for me!
Me too! But I hope its not as bad as listen or else it'll just become post-nerf flywheel (aka, not much use in top tier)
Sikey I’m loving this mystery horror format
I was wondering why nothing became of the ‘new’ ability- honestly this was a great explanation ☠️☠️
i kinda wish they never nerfed gardeners chair breaking since it forced the hunter to bring abnormal
It was cool but you should've seen how long it took to break them as well. It wasn't for free, it wasted a ton of time too
It use to cameback on Time on reunion event, and It suck, it suck so bad. it work like The Wraith from DBD. You can't hit survivor, you need to unclock it first before hit , and survivor still can saw it from a far away even though it's " Invisible"
They should add it but make it so ripper cant use it lol
Or they should at least un-nerf Yidhra
or they can just make it so ripper cant turn invisible when he uses the trait
Oh I swear I remember this trait in the time or reunion event, the exact same logo, it used to make you go invisible and (speed you up if i remember??)
Some people are saying it slowed you down actually. I do remember something like that, but it was so different and so bad that I couldnt even tell it had anything to do with this trait
i agree with the top comment that says this looks really similar to what hunters could do during Memory's/Little Girl's event. it seems to me like this trait was just too op? although the game is extremely survivor sided, id feel guilty using this as a hunter main lol. its just too powerful
i do really want to know what that trait with the big eye looking at a survivor is though! it looks so cool!
i do wonder if they scrapped the newest trait that was leaked though. it honestly doesnt seem very appealing to me anyway. or maybe they just scrapped it because it was leaked, the same way we didnt get mini Robbie/Axe Boy because people leaked the model
Im not sure what happened with that trait either. The short explanation is it countered transitioning since survivors could only go a set amount of distance away from the hunter without the survivor being stunned for 3 seconds, and the area gradually got smaller the longer it was in play. I didnt think it was appealing either
Hey, I actually remember seeing footage of this trait from a Douyin video of it from the CN test server. It used Ripper as an example of how it could be made useful and it was pretty much exactly as you speculated. I can't imagine the trait with Dream Witch.
I really love the way you made the video like a documentary, it was so cool and complete. Chapeau 😆😆😆😆😆❤️
Thank you, that was my goal 👍
netease: no new traits for hunter
also netease, pushing flywheel into live under a sheet: nothing to see here
I play both hunter and survivor, and it's significantly more frustrating to play hunter.
We got a new trait recently but it's basically like teleport but with a different flavor
This is such a well made video! Many kudos to you!
I think i entered the game when ripper still had the foggy place but i didn't knew until now... It seems strange tho...
this is like a blameitonjorge video but with idv 😭 good video sikey!!
Thanks, but I actually used Dream's take on this investigation series. What better way to learn about investigative videos than to learn from the best. Instead of hating on him, people can use him to their advantage as he paved the path for what worked, and now we can use those same tactics in our video for greater dramatic effect and viewer retention. His style is also incredibly effective. The tone in the voice, almost as if the youtuber is having a conversation with you in person, as well as the music is really the killer here for interest. I used to watch him before he got millions of subs like now, and I rewatched his Minecract Mystery series since it was so effective at what it did and studied his tactics, from his voice, to the gameplay, to the order of topics, and the music. I only watched the shark one fully when studying it, but I looked at his others to compare for a bit.
@@SikeyYT Wow! I didn’t know that dream had another series relating to mindcraft. I honestly thought that he only did man-hunts. the overall tone of the video and the fact that the topic is kinda like “lost-media” is reminiscent of blameitonjorge. you should do a video dedicated lost media related to idv. keep up the good work!
@@SikeyYT I was literally thinking of his Minecraft mystery videos when I started this video
no wonder i literally keeping losing every round as survivor 😐 not saying its only the traits but u know like what sikey said
As an old player, Bikey can tell us many interesting stories like this. 😲
Ripper its on the weaker side
That trait could help ripper much better in the meta
Yeah like he’d prob just end up an s tier hunter not necessarily OP
Even though that hiding trait would be interesting I think they scrapped it simply because it wouldn't be much of a game changer for most hunters . Cuz Ripper gets an obvious benefit from this but he's really the only hunter who could really use it properly (any other character wouldn't sacrifice blink or teleport just to remove the light and heartbeat if theyr'e still visible). So they're not only unwilling to change the meta much but also the trait in the vid is, down to its concept, not good for 99% of hunters. Balancing this would be incompatible with jack too, since he'd be kinda broken
You can say the same thing for patroller: Unusable for 99% of hunters but broken on DW (Feaster is a maybe but good survivors wont give back to back hits even with patroller). So really just because it would only be broken on 1 hunter is not good enough to say that thats the reason why they didnt add it.
@@SikeyYT I think the patroller situation reaaally depends on whether they buff/nerf it because the ability itself is useful, it’s just not good enough for many hunters. For hiding however, down to its concept it wouldn’t have worked without adjustments because the hunter would still be visible and it would be kind of useless
The trait was recycled for time of reunion event the if my memory doesn’t fail me it was a built in trait for any hunter the game mode was to hide the little girl luring her with dolls as a hunter, and stop the survivors from finding her, if she’s found the hunter has to hunt down the survivor which little girl is in, ngl the bot was on the spot with her skills.too, but if you swing in invisible form would stay stunned for 3 seconds but used correctly you would pop out as Joseph pls correct me if wrong
And forgot 1 thing this mode you could get novelist
deep bro....
That was like 5 years ago lol the hiding thing and back then when i saw the leaks i were like woahhh
Very enternaining video.
Thanks, now I will get wins using listen on dream witch
Even as a ripper main that trait would've been hell to deal with
I mean, I kinda disagree. It is a %100 frustrating to die quickly but I think these traits are the only things keeping hunters from losing to cipher rush all the time.
Im a little confused: How does this statement reflect why the lost trait wasnt added? Maybe you just meant this as a general statement about current traits.
@@SikeyYT well I was responding to your statement that hunter traits are abused and that’s why they haven’t added anymore. But traits like blink and patroller may be the only way some hunters can get a down, otherwise they’ll get kited the entire match. Cipher rush makes it so if you get kited you’re screwed.
“Unsolved crime” Aaaaaaaaahhh yes my fav crime I like to play with is blink
Coming from the surv mains huh.../j
OMG I DO REMEMBER THIS
We had hiding trait only in the little girl event....
Nostalgia
Complains about the traits/ripper
*doesn’t learn the matchup*
I guess you missed the part talking about 2018 meta
As a hunter main, this would not be a good fix for anything. I do think new traits would be good, but the problem with this trait is not only would very few hunters benefit from it, it would create a frustrating issue with the gameplay its self for survivors. unlike many asym games, idv has a radar and much of the gameplay is visual. survivors are given audio and visual clues due to the fact that a mobile interface makes it harder to see things in general. not only that but some players may have the game muted when casually playing. thus the heartbeat having a visual as well. adding a trait that completely negates these core design elements would create frustration with casual players and issues with the game in general.
traits in general currently are in i'd say a pretty good place. and due to the fact ANY hunter can use them, it's unsurprising they haven't added a new one. it creates a huge amount of variables for the devs to balance, when there's already so many things that can effect the game. adding personas is a better choice due to persona points being limited. ie; flywheel being implemented means either not having borrowed time or tide turner. so it balances easier.
i will say some of the wording here feels a bit weird. because you talk about dream witch as if it's an easy win to use her, same with breaking wheel. when they take a lot of work to play properly and are still effected by looping and kiting strategies. breaking wheel can't just one hit down you out of nowhere. he has to have hit you multiple times for that to work. and that is entirely on the breaking wheel being good at hitting you. when most you can just circle back and forth around a tree and not get hit. and in normal quickplay, how many times do you see someone with the patience to play dream witch? these are extreme examples to use, when currently most hunters struggle with map control. and a game can be lost if you don't secure a down in 60 seconds.
yes the game is much harder when you're with new players as survivor, but that's literally every asym game. people take time to learn. but it becomes far more in the favor of survivor once they learn the basic flow of the game. and the fact that a team can get 3 ciphers done (at least) within the time it takes one person to get downed and die on chair. the reason cipher rush is usually talked about is because as a hunter, one mistake can let you know you're going to tie or straight up lose. while survivors have to usually make multiple mistakes for the same outcome. but the game is not a simple thing to balance because it's meant to be fast paced and allow both sides a feeling of some control.
frankly as someone who did play in 2019 took a break and came back in 2022, they have actually done a good job making a huge amount of changes over time to make multiple characters better or more fair. with far larger changes than what you normally see from a free game. the devs do pay attention far more than most, especially when it comes to an asym game which at this point are notoriously hard to balance.
but by god i do hope at least for higher ranks they do something about cipher rush, because by god a team that knows what they're doing can have a game in their pocket within a minute, which is why almost every hunter is forced to bring detention or at least trump card.
Also what do you think if gamekeeper gets a buff where his traps deal half damage of regular attack to survivors when they step on it
Its a fine buff idea, but I think a better idea is to start with 2 traps and then pickup 6 other unarmed traps scattered around the map instead of waiting 5 years for more traps. Since gamekeeper has the hook, I dont think adding damage to traps is justifiable when he already has a way of chasing
that trait should be came in game i still think that
Sikey you are straight bugging if you think hunter traits are frustrating 💀
@benji yeah bc survivor mains at least in naeu stick only to survivor bc they are too nervous to play hunter. Then they have poor game sense because they don’t understand hunter and then they suck at the game and rely on broken survivor abilities to win. Then they think BQ is broken bc they don’t know how to counter her, or maybe she’s broken because she’s a viable hunter in todays meta who consistently only ever ties. I wonder why she can only tie even after she gets an early down…💀
It’s just a cycle at this point. I could go on and on but I’d be wasting my breathe bc survivor mains complain the moment a hunter can actually win, or have a chance at winning.
@benji I definitely won't blame you if you do lol. it sucks playing hunter a lot. but I still love the faction so much that ill keep suffering LMAO
I have played this game for 4 years at a competitive level; of course I dont think hunters have it easy, but Im also speaking as someone who expects perfect gameplay from hunters and dont have much difficulty using traits myself either. No one is perfect, but traits are one of the easier things to use you must admit. Who do you think knows more about traits: Hunters who main a few select hunters who must learn to use a handful of traits (assuming they main more than 1-2), or survivors who have to learn to beat every hunter + trait combo in this game? I hope you can get past my biases anyway, we all have them.
@@SikeyYT perfect gameplay for hunters doesn't matter because survivors have the means and abilities to support each other immensely. It's clear from any big tournament that hunters do not have it easy even with perfect gameplay, or even using a trait effectively. Also, a handful of traits? It is not that hard to counter more than 2 thirds of the hunter traits in this game LMAO. The only trait that has consistently been good is blink. And since you're bringing "competition" into this, what hunters are used the most? Polun, Dream Witch, Sculptor. And then what if they're banned? Blood Queen, Geisha, Naiad. And the other A- tier hunters are weak against harassment and are countered by transitional kiting. From a competitive and tournament standpoint why would you ever need to worry about seeing a Luchino or Wax Artist? That literally makes no sense Sikey because NO ONE PLAYS THEM. Even then it's easy to predict what they'll do and what trait they'll bring and top survivors should have no issue countering them. Complaining about traits being "easy to use" is such a hypocritical thing to say considering how easy it is to pick up survivor. Game sense is another thing, but mechanically survivor is not difficult whatsoever. Pressing a button and moving your screen around isn't hard Sikey LOL. Hunter is harder mechanically because you actually need skill to use your abilities, unlike priestess, merc, seer etc. Survivors don't have it as hard as hunters do and that's an undeniable fact. This game is survivor sided. It's not even bias at this point, you are literally delusional.
I mean, it's solved now
"OMGGG NERF THE SKILL!!!!"
when the hunter trait was release
Sikey I know you never reply on comments but do you think buffing Listen trait where the hunters aren't slowed down when walking while using it and it also get more durability when using it each time. Would it be a good buff or still not that good and start with full durability at the beginning of the match.
Prob not listen is useless and just for beginners
Like they ofc don’t know spawnpoints and also might not have tinnitus so they use listen 😭 plus it still wouldn’t be viable when something like blink exists
Still useless. Honestly no point of even avoiding listen when your cipher is shaking anyway
The hunters so overpowered man chill
the reason to scrap it also could’ve been the devs sensing the massive amounts of complaints from surv faction in chinese community🤔
This trait would be good today. Just make it so ripper can't use it. Seems fair to me
That would leave inconsistencies for why every other hunter can use every other trait
Oooo spooky
That trait will be broken with reaper
we probably arent going to get a new trait because of leakers, multiple skins have been delayed because of leakers and i wont be surprised if any new traits are removed because of leakers
Ive always wondered how they had access to that stuff. Ive always assumed they had to get permission to show early test server stuff
bro your music choice ..
help
I messed up one of the music choices, turns out one of them wasnt copyright free. My mistake
Sikey if you played 4 years and are complaining about hunter traits being frustrating you clearly don’t understand the extent of how hard it is to play hunter. Everyones hunter makes mistakes and survivors make mistakes. No one is perfect. But survivors still have a chance to come back if they mess up, meanwhile hunters really don’t. There is really only 2 S tier Hunters which is wheel and DW but if you are complaining about only those two, what about all the S tier and A tier+ survs? Are you blind to how surv sided the game is? These 2 hunters are MADE to be S tier because they are the only ones who can really counter todays meta and they STILL STRUGGLE plus they are incredibly hard to learn. Please don’t let your bias lead to ignorance.
I do agree that the game tends to favor survivors, but that doesnt mean I cant find certain things about hunter annoying, and you cant deprive that opinion from me. Besides, this was more so to give a possible explanation as to why this trait wasnt added. Do note that I am not saying this is the ultimate unarguable reason, it's just a theory, A GAAAAMEEEE theory, thanks for watching! (No but seriously you cant tell me I dont have the right to find stuff frusturating)
From a balancing perspective: if I were the devs, I would nerf all S tiers on both sides to introduce a fresh meta. I agree you cant nerf one side without the other, and I wouldnt mind seeing weak stuff be broken by buffing it as long as it eventually gets nerfed and new stuff is introduced(similarly to how ento and acro were buffed and nerfed over a period of time) and thus the cycle repeats to keep things fresh
@@SikeyYT of cours people will start maining hunters that are op cause look at the survivors meta its broken, i watch alot of pro hunters gameplays the only reason they win is that they know the game mechanics and they mastered their mains but they still suffer from something called cipher rush even if the survivors dont know how to kit or get down easily survivors manage to decode all ciphers lets not forget that its 1 brain against 4
I feel like they deleted the trait because it was too op. If they brought it, surviors mains will complain
Exactly because it's unfair, hunters are overpowered yet sometimes even tho its 4 vs 1 yet the whole team would suck or mess up so it's mostly 1 vs 1 for me because I never get help as survivor they suck
Frustrating? Lmao
if we see everything in the game as frustrating, then just delete every survivor and hunter perks
@@noscrubsm I agree
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why is this video so dramatic??😭
So that you get hooked onto watching it 😎 (or at least I hope it did)