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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • I've done a fair bit of hauling tractors and attachments, and I prefer ratchet straps over chains. I try and replace them once a year, or as soon as I see any fraying on the webbing. This year I went for new straps and I'll walk you through my rationale in today's video.
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Комментарии • 68

  • @GoodWorksTractors
    @GoodWorksTractors  10 месяцев назад +6

    Here's links to the Stake Pocket D Rings and shorter ratchet straps. Hope this helps! www.amazon.com/shop/goodworkstractors/list/1WGO12FJ7D5H6?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_aipsflist_aipsfgoodworkstractors_6DTKNNJCRTD3QX54YMFA

  • @tokencivilian8507
    @tokencivilian8507 10 месяцев назад +28

    A few points from a person in aviation where securing cargo properly is critical (see Kandahar 747 crash for what happens when cargo breaks loose inside an airplane - I worked with one of the since retired engineers who investigated that one): Conservatively ignore friction between the object being restrained and what its loaded on when determining required restraint. Multiply the weight of the restrained object by the applicable federal or state cargo securement rules required G force - my Google Fu skills say that number is 0.8G forward, for example (so that 13,000 lb skid steer x 0.8G = 10,400 lbs of forward restraint is required per fed regs). Don't mix chains and straps as restraint in the same direction as the different stiffness will result in uneven load sharing (the stiffer chain will take most of the load potentially leading to a progressive failure under load) - it's ok for chains to secure a load from shifting forward, while straps keep it from shifting aft, for example, but don't mix chains and straps to secure a load from moving forward. Ideally, all restraints in the same direction have about the same length for the same reason - shorter = stiffer, longer = softer for a given type of restraint (chain, strap, etc). Have adequate restraint in each direction. While the example of 4 of the large straps, one on each corner of the skid steer, provided 21k of restraint (doing a simple sum of the WLL's), it is likely a bit under half that was in either the forward or aft direction (assuming the straps were oriented off the corners mostly forward / aft) - if this is the case, there is little restraint in either lateral direction. Angles matter: If you have a strap at 45 degrees off a corner, that provides only ~71% of the WLL in either the forward or side direction (the strap is the hypotenuse of a right isosceles triangle with length 1, the two side lengths are 0.707). Basically, resolve the direction of the strap into forward / aft and sideways directions and the relative length vs the hypotenuse (strap) length will give you the fraction of the WLL effective in a given direction. In the case of that 45 degree strap off the back corner of a skid steer, 71% of a 5400 lb WLL = 3834 lbs of restraint in the forward direction (and the same for a sideways direction), so while you may think you have 21k of restraint, you only would have ~ 2 x 3834 lbs =7668 lbs of restraint in any of the 4 primary directions, forward being most critical as you don't want that load to slide forward and squash you in the tow vehicle. Balance your restraint around the center of gravity of the restrained object so it won't rotate under loading - if you have side restraint only on the front of an item, the back end could slide out under cornering for example. There's more, but those are the high points.

    • @danquirke443
      @danquirke443 10 месяцев назад +11

      I've hauled every load imaginable as an 18 yr truck driver. I keep up with current regs and know securement better than the average guy. I find it impossible to teach people how to secure loads because I can't seem to dumb it down enough or keep their attention. I have no idea if you actually know what you're talking about because you lost me in the first chapter of your book.

    • @bierbarrel
      @bierbarrel 10 месяцев назад +3

      Thank God we aren't tying down equipment in an airplane!

    • @qcan8468
      @qcan8468 10 месяцев назад +4

      Great info. The mechanical engineer in me enjoyed the technical discussion.

    • @kolewade
      @kolewade 9 месяцев назад

      Well said. Thanks for the knowledge.

    • @drizler
      @drizler 9 месяцев назад

      Wow, that made my head hurt . I sure hope they have some sort of simplified system relating to for the hands on crew. Things like specific vehicle models with diagrams and required tiedowns.

  • @CorkeryCoop
    @CorkeryCoop 10 месяцев назад +3

    I added 12,000 lbs D-Rings to my tractor frame (my son fabricated them: welding them to bar steel, and then powder coating them). Bolted to the frame.
    Using Erickson 2”x7’ machinery tie-down straps means 8 clicks to fasten the hooks, then tighten the straps. So quick and so secure.

  • @billyelmore6890
    @billyelmore6890 10 месяцев назад +5

    A twist or two in a strap to reduce wind vibration doesn’t affect break strength, HOWEVER testing, I saw a year or so ago, showed that knots in straps GREATLY reduces the strength and are almost always the failure point. Billy

  • @franklackie2469
    @franklackie2469 10 месяцев назад +1

    Courtney you will love these straps with the chains on the end so much better than the hook thing

  • @randysavage8963
    @randysavage8963 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thanks for the video I was just shopping for new racket straps myself

  • @threeriversforge1997
    @threeriversforge1997 9 месяцев назад

    That was Fireball Tools who did the break test on the ratchet straps. Great guy and some really fantastic tool designs. I'll have to see about getting some of those D-rings you showed.

  • @dylanallen6879
    @dylanallen6879 4 месяца назад

    Have a set of these and they are badass

  • @tomjack9632
    @tomjack9632 10 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video, I got a set of them pocket d-rings a couple years ago, worth every penny..

  • @waynetrent754
    @waynetrent754 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have the drop in D rings, love them 😊

  • @AppliedOCD
    @AppliedOCD 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video, Courtney! It's nice to know that USCC sells straps in various lengths. Unless I have a giant crate to tie down, all the extra strap is a pain in the neck to fold up and secure.

  • @rowdyparker7330
    @rowdyparker7330 10 месяцев назад +2

    Chains don’t get frayed like straps. The sun kills straps to in Texas. I have a small yanmar and will only use chains.

  • @danholmblad9925
    @danholmblad9925 10 месяцев назад +2

    The chain ends are great for not easy access points. I went to straps years ago. Played with dot on them they lost. Chain are good for some jobs. But I like straps. Thanks for the video.

  • @bierbarrel
    @bierbarrel 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like straps better too but I still use chains and binders.

  • @christopherforsyth5284
    @christopherforsyth5284 9 месяцев назад

    Fireball tools. Great video.

  • @donaldslate4195
    @donaldslate4195 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very nice presentation

  • @rodneygreen3388
    @rodneygreen3388 9 месяцев назад

    You should try to do a video with a DOT officer about proper cargo securment. You may be interred to find out that they only give you 50% of a strap/chain if it is connected strait. If you go over the top and back down to the other side of the trailer you get 100%. And you are supposed to strap any attachments also.
    So if your tractor has a bush hog on it you should strap that separately. In theory the bucket on a front end loader too.

  • @earthandbloom
    @earthandbloom 9 месяцев назад

    We only use chains on equipment. They last substantially longer. Straps are used for smaller items and attachments.

  • @jophoto934
    @jophoto934 9 месяцев назад

    I have them. Just hauled my Ford 3000 tractor using them

  • @jamesnichols7507
    @jamesnichols7507 10 месяцев назад

    For salty roads search - - - custom ratchet strap stainless steel - - - . They make 1”, 1.5”, and 2” but I’m not sure if they make a 3” in Stainless Steel.

  • @brookelawrence3200
    @brookelawrence3200 10 месяцев назад +2

    Great video

  • @petermccuskey1832
    @petermccuskey1832 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you.

  • @PurpleNovember
    @PurpleNovember 10 месяцев назад +3

    That’s a good idea with color coding for length!
    I was a firm believer in chains only until I did a bunch of research on it years ago. Chains have their place for sure but straps can be used most of the time. What surprised me about chains is how little damage they take before they should be replaced. Difference with straps is that the damage is usually more noticeable. I don’t use chains and binders anymore.

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  10 месяцев назад +2

      Hmm, that's good to know. I'll have to do more research on the chains. Thanks!

    • @PurpleNovember
      @PurpleNovember 10 месяцев назад

      @@GoodWorksTractors I’ll try to find the PDF’s on the chains.

    • @meds4all
      @meds4all 10 месяцев назад

      Well some points were not correct. If you go from machine to trailer, the WLL is 50% not 100%. So 5400 becomes 2900. If the securement goes over the load, trailer to trailer, then WLL is 100%. Personally chains with slip hooks and binders are all I'll use any machine over 5,000 pounds. Little background now. I'm an owner operator, I run open deck only. Flat beds are for rookies, stepdecks are versatile. Lowboy trailers/ rgn is what I normally pull. Everything from a general freight legal load all the way up to loads big enough to require police escorts during the move. Before each or day of the move the d.o.t does typically a full level inspection. I'm basically saying while I still haven't learned it all, what I said is by the book on securement ratings. So that 21,600 at the start of the video on the telehandler, is 10,800 WLL. Anything wheeled or tracked piece must have 4 corners, plus whatever else is needed to cover weight. Booms, buckets, loaders, all need securement on them as well, that also allows that WLL to be added to the total WLL securing the load.

  • @justanotherviewer52
    @justanotherviewer52 10 месяцев назад +3

    Ratchet straps are the way to go.

  • @juleswinnfield826
    @juleswinnfield826 10 месяцев назад +1

    Good info, thanks for the vids

  • @kennethboyer2338
    @kennethboyer2338 10 месяцев назад

    14:06 You're talking about a video done on Project Farm, he did that test with twisting the straps. Twisting the straps didn't take away from their strength unless it was twisted more than so many times. Can't remember as it's been a while since I watched it.

  • @JCWren
    @JCWren 10 месяцев назад +5

    So you're telling me my four 330lb Harbor Freight ratchet straps aren't enough?

    • @sleepyta
      @sleepyta 10 месяцев назад

      So you're telling me you actually strap down your load?? 🤷‍♂️

    • @CliffsideStables
      @CliffsideStables 10 месяцев назад +1

      😅😎😜

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  10 месяцев назад +2

      Haha...you hauling a toy tractor?

    • @michaelsudak6559
      @michaelsudak6559 10 месяцев назад +1

      FOUR?! Nice to meet you, Captain Overkill! 😂😜😉

    • @JCWren
      @JCWren 10 месяцев назад

      @@GoodWorksTractors Yah, it's a John Deere :)

  • @tjt1992
    @tjt1992 10 месяцев назад

    Information videos are awesome!

  • @anthonya.perrysr4887
    @anthonya.perrysr4887 10 месяцев назад +1

    There isn’t anything wrong with cheap insurance. I strap or chain way higher than my load calls for.

  • @brian644
    @brian644 10 месяцев назад +1

    links would have been real nice for those d ring tie downs... definitely going to find those

    • @GoodWorksTractors
      @GoodWorksTractors  10 месяцев назад +1

      Here ya go: www.amazon.com/shop/goodworkstractors/list/1WGO12FJ7D5H6?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_aipsflist_aipsfgoodworkstractors_6DTKNNJCRTD3QX54YMFA

  • @JessMelvin-n8l
    @JessMelvin-n8l 10 месяцев назад

    Straps are never meant to go over rub rails, they are meant to go between the frame and the rub rail and hook to the frame.

  • @jaxithfox
    @jaxithfox 9 месяцев назад +2

    Piece of advice for all chain binders or strap ratchets. Use ATF to lube them. It works wonderfully and attracts no dirt to it. I have binders that ride on my RGN that can go weeks without another dose of ATF and they still run perfect.
    Something very critical to know for load securement is the difference between what is called direct and indirect securement. When a chain, or chain and strap combo, goes from the machine to the trailer edge that is direct securement and by federal law that piece of securement is only rated at 50% of it's WLL. So essentially every pair is counted as just one. Now if a strap or chain goes from trailer edge over the load, or thru securement points on the machine, and back to the trailer it's indirect securement and gets 100% of its WLL.
    When it comes to securement laws there are pretty much no local laws on it as the federal laws apply to all states. At a certain size all machinery needs to be cross chained and there needs to be padding if two chains are going to touch and you absolutely can not have two straps touch each other.
    On top of that if you use chains you need to pay attention to the WLL that is marked on the hooks, chain, and binders you use and the lowest is the actual rating. A chain binder might say 6600 but if the hook is rated at say 5400 then that's what the whole thing will be rated for.

  • @SledgeHammer43
    @SledgeHammer43 10 месяцев назад

    It is 1/2 of the working load limit

  • @mrmichaeltscott
    @mrmichaeltscott 10 месяцев назад

    Add some Tank Straps to your kit. AMZ. Thank me later.

  • @MrGoodtime1301
    @MrGoodtime1301 10 месяцев назад

    will the hook of a chain binder designed for 5/16 - 3/8 chain be able to attach to the stake pocket d-ring or is the d-ring material too thick?

  • @georgecharles8824
    @georgecharles8824 9 месяцев назад

    Kind of Ironic being concerned about 1 in 1million odds of an accident. But, ZERO concerns about Chinese made material.

  • @ajosephbaumhauer4071
    @ajosephbaumhauer4071 10 месяцев назад

    Someone told me that four corner tie down was required by DOT.
    CAN SOMEONE COMMENT?

    • @tokencivilian8507
      @tokencivilian8507 10 месяцев назад

      Google Federal Cargo Securement Rules and do the same for your state. Read up.

  • @jdboy9
    @jdboy9 10 месяцев назад

    Ch18dr from uscc. Another great tool to keep in the securement arsenal.

  • @waynederby4684
    @waynederby4684 10 месяцев назад +2

    Very well explained video and justified reasons for your decisions for straps. When I had my KUBOTA L 3800 with backhoe I used straps also. Now however that I moved up to the substantially larger and heavier L6060 with backhoe I strictly use chains with added on connection points from 5/11 Design that I saw on your channel. Being so much heavier we feel safer with chains over straps on that machine while not large machinery it is more than 50% heavier than the L3800. Thanks again for your knowledgeable presentation..

  • @georgea6403
    @georgea6403 10 месяцев назад +2

    I laminated the load rating tags on mine. The manufacturers should do this. Supposedly it has to be legible to be in compliance.

    • @danquirke443
      @danquirke443 10 месяцев назад +2

      Every size strap has a minimum rating if not legible. It is better to keep your tags in good shape as they almost always have a higher WLL than DOT minimums.

  • @excellent952
    @excellent952 9 месяцев назад

    A few years back, I rented a Polaris Ranger 570. At the time, I didn’t have a trailer or any straps so the rental place furnished the trailer and straps. They used two 1 inch straps…one in front, one in back. I didn’t think much about it as I figured they knew what they were doing.
    I had a 100 mile one way drive. Got to my destination without a problem. I noticed there was a fray on one of the straps but used it on the return trip anyway. When I arrived back at the rental place, one of the two straps was completely severed. I dodged a bullet in that the straps were too light to begin with, damaged and only used two of them to secure the load. I thanked God I didn’t lose the machine on the interstate highway!
    Lesson learned. Now I have my own trailer and a plethora of options and chains as needed. Don’t be that guy that foolishly proceeded.