Edward Vajda - Tlingit and the Dene-Yeniseian Hypothesis
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amazing lecture and explaining in an accessible way. here's to compiling additional evidence for this hypothesis!
Amazing lecture! If you have him back please post more
There was a video James Cripen was in, 1491 Americas Before Columbus I have seen about Tlingit Navajo and a language in South America, but it's been so long I can't remember the people in S. America, it would be something to connect all 4 of our languages and show that similarities? Also seems like research our people should be funding our people to do? Gunalchéesh for the presentation and hat's off to Sealaska Heritage brining these videos and so much more out to our people, Gunalchéesh tléin
Блин, Вайда: до чего ж ты крутой мужик 👍
So...
Yeniseian - Na-Dene is Y-haplogroup Q, Burushaski is R2, and Indo-European is R1a (satem) and R1b (kentum). So shouldn't we be looking for the language of R (Buru-Yeni-Na-Dene) and P1 (Indo-European-Buru-Yeni-Na-Dene), P1 being the 'parent' of Q and R?
That's not how language families work. For an effective primer, read Lyle Campbell's "Historical Linguistics".
Hint: familial relationships between languages have nothing to do with haplogroups.
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Familial relationships between languages have everything to do with haplogroups. People learn to speak from their parents. Occasionally that is not the case; it could be that your ethnic group is partially wiped out (eg. in the Americas).
@@someopinion2846 I mean, sure. Children literally plug their ears when anyone around them speaks something other than their parents' language, and no one in this world has ever learned a second language.
How does your theory work with mtDNA haplogroups, I wonder? Is language only genetically determined by the fathers' Y chromosome, or also the mothers' mitochondrial DNA? Were people in certain Y-haplogroups only permitted to reproduce with people in certain mtDNA-haplogroups so that their language and genetics lined up for future researchers? I can only imagine the inbreeding!
Certainly, your theory requires that no linguistic population ever conquer, or be conquered, by another. In fact, it would require that no social change or migration happened ever, just to make sure the same groups didn't mix, either genetically or linguistically. War? Immigration? Colonization? Assimilation? Biracial coupling? Cultural and linguistic contact? Trade networks? None of these have EVER occurred in 12,000 years of anatomically modern human development, right? I mean, even now, no one ever learns a language that doesn't belong to their parents' genetic lineage!
On the real, you should never go into linguistics, my friend. It'll be a tough road for you.
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People learn to speak from their parents. Occasionally that is not the case; it could be that your ethnic group, as defined by its Y-DNA haplogroup is wiped out, namely when it is conquered by a group of a different Y-DNA haplogroup. Women usually survive that type of ethnic cleansing.
Were people in certain Y-haplogroups only permitted to reproduce with people in certain mtDNA-haplogroups? Yes, that's the outcome of conquests.
@@someopinion2846 I am sorry that your education system has failed you so badly.
Gods must be crazy
My hypothesis: the Ket people got lost in Siberia and could not find their way back to Canada. No one is related to them in surrounding tribes. Their people, language, and traditions dwindling into extinction. Wheras, the Athabaskan people in Canada and SW America thrive in their language, people, and traditions. 🤔 Could science be wrong? Im Navajo, my 2 DNA has no Asian, Siberian, or Mongolian genetic connections. Zero, none. Go figure... 😂
I would not rule out the possibility that the Ket and Itelman may simply remnant trading colonies coming back from North America. Contrary to western anthropology teachings, the Siberian people always knew where America was and were trading back and forth. Just think about it, when people move to a new place to find new resources, they usually go back home and show off what the new land has to offer and possibly recruit some new people to come with you. Trading posts are usual. So the idea of leaving to give up your identity and never go back is not how people act. There was a back and forth of trade and looking for partners.
Then you're not Navajo. Because if you were a member of the Q haplogroup you would show DNA from the western hemisphere and Asia.
I'm Cree and Mohawk and my DNA covers and matches all of Asia.
Amigo, eres chino, puedo ver tu foto de perfil.
1. Most DNA test only use haplogroup markers, which don't tell the full story. Depending on what haplogroups are compared you can get very different results between 2 people. Different tests use different haplogroups. Cheaper tests use fewer haplogroups, while more accurate tests that compare many haplogroups are very, very expensive and not available to most people.
2. You don't even need a DNA test. If you have shovel shaped incisors, dry earwax (ABCC11), then there is a 99% chance you are Native American, "Latino", or Asian. These features together ate almost never found in any other people.
what an ignorant comment
American genesis is ahistorical.
Haplogroups came from the old world.
However there was some beringian back and forth.
3000 miles!? Other countries are closer to Alaska than the Ket are! Mongolia, Korea, China, other parts of Siberia besides the Ket, Japan, etc. are closer to Alaska than the Ket are!
Humana came from Africa and spread around the world, so 3000 miles is nothing, lol
India is pretty far from Iceland too. Isolation can accompany quite conservative tendencies.
So?
Lies