Plow Under was *amazing* in the Tooth and Nail era green decks. Just absolutely brutal. Double stone rain, can't draw gas for two turns? Brutal. Alwaaays brutal.
The pivoting in the identity of the deck sure was something, impressive to see LSV recognise what and when to do so. Might not be the best deck ever drafted, but I think this was an amazing show in skill piloting the drafting.
The pivot into heavy green is amazing... A lesser drafter such as myself would not have seen that opportunity and would have trainwrecked so hard, lol. A good reminder to stay open, even deep into pack 3.
It's really fun to watch the cube evolve. I wonder how helpful and or fun it is to have a handful of little 2 to 3 card combos. Flash is so interesting because it really can fit well into a reanimator deck, but it also can totally suck in that deck. Same in a Channel/monolith style deck, some of those cards work with flash but not all. It has good overlap across decks. Some of these little combos, for example Thopter Foundry plus Sword of the Meek, don't really overlap into other decks well. Those combos feel especially cheesy when they win and just look like bad cards in the cube - IMHO. Thanks as always for the premium content!
I just wanted to say that I would be lost at work without the sound of your voice in the background. I love watching the drafts, hearing your commentary on the plays and the picks. So thankful for you and all of the hard work you put into the channel (especially during this draft lol, pun intended)
Sad to see him pass Pest Infestation. I feel like it was really splashable, like he said he probably could've wheeled Kozilek. Even without hindsight, I feel it was the clear pick
A bit of a shaky but very interesting draft! I find the ones where you need to pivot or re-evaluate are fascinating. I hope it ends up working out - we'll see I suppose!
Everytime you guys draft like this (6 players, 3 packs each) you end up with these frankenstein decks, missing a bunch of key pieces. In my 360 card cube, when we play a 6-player draft, we open 4 packs each and discard the last 4 cards. This way, we are able to access the same amount of cards as a 8-player draft and we are always able to put together good decks, which guarantees everyone's fun. This configuration is possible in Draftmancer and I think it would be good for you guys 🙂
Stiflenought might have done a short appearance in the cube, but the fact that you brought up [slip out the back] made me realise that also works for kroxa+uro. So now I need to try a build on that in timeless. Question is if going animate oriented whit unearth+Lazav is worth it for speed, or if a more rampy approach whit [delighted halfling]. Hope I can make something spicy brewing whit this
There was serious meme potential with Memory Jar, Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Echo of Eons, Sail into the West, all combined with Ancestral Recall, Eternal Witness, and Regrowth. Then you get bricked by not getting Narset, Bowmasters, Sheoldred, or Hullbreacher. I don't know how such a deck wins, but I want to believe.
hey luis! long time viewer here :) dont know if this is something you or the server would be interesting but figured id shout into the void and say that i think it would add a cool dimension to these daily drafts if "the crown" or some similar king-of-the-hill mechanic was codified into a legitimate competition
I was glad he acknowledged it after the draft phase. An untapped fetchable dual is pretty high quality at that stage of pack 1, even if you’re not in the colors yet - I was mentally yelling at him to take it.
You actually missed two cards in your build. As you noted you did draft a mystical tutor and forgot to add it but you also forgot a Become Immense in your side board as well. You should have 45 cards at the end so when you had 28 main and 15 board I knew you were missing two cards. It looks like the draft bugged out at 16:21 mark as you moved the channel to the board, your main goes from 24 down to 22 when it should be 23 and stays that way for the remainder of the draft.
curious about the olephant pick over overgrown tomb .. both are fixing, and olephant would need more of a splash to be fully effective, whereas tomb was similarly half on-colour and would've better enabled channel :hmm:
I'm surprised you skipped on the tropical island pick. I feel like that's a pick you would have made a month or two ago just based on watching all these draft videos.
@@Anusien Sure, but it's a late half-on-color fetchable vs. an efficient but replaceable playable. As it turned out there was a pack later on where trop would have made a green fetch land a live pick, where there was otherwise nothing to take. Also green has other ways to cheat in big stuff, so it maybe opens the door to Oath if it gets opened.
@@shevek5934Totally agree, and I was glad to hear LSV acknowledge it at the end of the draft phase. I think taking a good dual later in pack 1 has a lot of upside even if you have no cards in that color yet. In this draft it was borne out when he later saw Channel, Windswept Heath, and Pest Infestation and was not seeing the reanimator cards, but even if it doesn’t turn into anything, I still like the pick.
"Kinda like cheon but really good at magic."
Haumph always catching strays
I thoroughly enjoyed the game one screenshot of Concealing Curtains + a bunch of lands 😂
I love this kind of draft the most, navigating difficult choices to make an interesting counter intuitive deck
Luis is such a good commentator! I think I enjoy him commentating his friends' matches as much as I like watching his own
Opponent at 38:00 putting a land into play is such a small but heads up play that almost nobody would make. Such a huge difference in the game though!
Ill enjoy rewatching this one when LSV does a compilation of his worst decks
"Do not draft this at home, or any other location." LOL
I’ve been watching/doing Holiday Cube drafts for like 15 years, and in all that time I’ve yet to see something more brutal than losing to Plow Under.
It was brutal when plow was legal n constructed too
Plow Under was *amazing* in the Tooth and Nail era green decks. Just absolutely brutal. Double stone rain, can't draw gas for two turns? Brutal. Alwaaays brutal.
Plow under is probably my favorite MTG card.
The pivoting in the identity of the deck sure was something, impressive to see LSV recognise what and when to do so. Might not be the best deck ever drafted, but I think this was an amazing show in skill piloting the drafting.
The pivot into heavy green is amazing... A lesser drafter such as myself would not have seen that opportunity and would have trainwrecked so hard, lol. A good reminder to stay open, even deep into pack 3.
It's really fun to watch the cube evolve. I wonder how helpful and or fun it is to have a handful of little 2 to 3 card combos. Flash is so interesting because it really can fit well into a reanimator deck, but it also can totally suck in that deck. Same in a Channel/monolith style deck, some of those cards work with flash but not all. It has good overlap across decks. Some of these little combos, for example Thopter Foundry plus Sword of the Meek, don't really overlap into other decks well. Those combos feel especially cheesy when they win and just look like bad cards in the cube - IMHO.
Thanks as always for the premium content!
at least they axed time vault, which i don't think belongs in any cube.
Watch you every day without fail, Luis. Always rooting for you :)
You know it was a hard draft if he sideboards 10 basics
😂
I just wanted to say that I would be lost at work without the sound of your voice in the background. I love watching the drafts, hearing your commentary on the plays and the picks. So thankful for you and all of the hard work you put into the channel (especially during this draft lol, pun intended)
Professional face breaker would be kinda sick in the cube for the red decks
Sad to see him pass Pest Infestation. I feel like it was really splashable, like he said he probably could've wheeled Kozilek. Even without hindsight, I feel it was the clear pick
Watching this draft and play is why I know that as much as I cannot play in the NBA or NFL, I cannot also play at the highest levels of MTG drafting.
This was very fun having you be so excited to not have to play anymore games 🤣
You definitely drafted Mystical Tutor and then it didn't make it into your deckbuilding process on MTGO (nvm you figured it out)
A bit of a shaky but very interesting draft! I find the ones where you need to pivot or re-evaluate are fascinating. I hope it ends up working out - we'll see I suppose!
That double eldrazi was good stuff luis
Thanks again for all the great content, LSV!
unironically this is the kind of deck i hope to draft lol
Everytime you guys draft like this (6 players, 3 packs each) you end up with these frankenstein decks, missing a bunch of key pieces. In my 360 card cube, when we play a 6-player draft, we open 4 packs each and discard the last 4 cards. This way, we are able to access the same amount of cards as a 8-player draft and we are always able to put together good decks, which guarantees everyone's fun. This configuration is possible in Draftmancer and I think it would be good for you guys 🙂
Stiflenought might have done a short appearance in the cube, but the fact that you brought up [slip out the back] made me realise that also works for kroxa+uro. So now I need to try a build on that in timeless. Question is if going animate oriented whit unearth+Lazav is worth it for speed, or if a more rampy approach whit [delighted halfling]. Hope I can make something spicy brewing whit this
Can you comment in a video about 4x12 vs 3x15 for 6 person draft? Why did you switch back? Thanks!
There was serious meme potential with Memory Jar, Wheel of Fortune, Timetwister, Echo of Eons, Sail into the West, all combined with Ancestral Recall, Eternal Witness, and Regrowth. Then you get bricked by not getting Narset, Bowmasters, Sheoldred, or Hullbreacher.
I don't know how such a deck wins, but I want to believe.
hey luis! long time viewer here :) dont know if this is something you or the server would be interesting but figured id shout into the void and say that i think it would add a cool dimension to these daily drafts if "the crown" or some similar king-of-the-hill mechanic was codified into a legitimate competition
Getting to play two Eldrazi seems pretty cool.
Man passing that late tropical island hurt. Green was so open, birds wheeling, channel wheeling.
I was glad he acknowledged it after the draft phase. An untapped fetchable dual is pretty high quality at that stage of pack 1, even if you’re not in the colors yet - I was mentally yelling at him to take it.
Hey LSV, I remember in 3-3 drafts, sometimes y'all would draft with four packs of 11 or 12. Did you decide against it?
I've wondering if you're going to add "Not Dead After All" to the cube. Seems like comboing it with flash would be so much fun.
You actually missed two cards in your build.
As you noted you did draft a mystical tutor and forgot to add it but you also forgot a Become Immense in your side board as well. You should have 45 cards at the end so when you had 28 main and 15 board I knew you were missing two cards.
It looks like the draft bugged out at 16:21 mark as you moved the channel to the board, your main goes from 24 down to 22 when it should be 23 and stays that way for the remainder of the draft.
curious about the olephant pick over overgrown tomb .. both are fixing, and olephant would need more of a splash to be fully effective, whereas tomb was similarly half on-colour and would've better enabled channel :hmm:
From this thumbnail I’m expecting at least a 2-1 or you’re #1 least lucky shuffler
Is there a reason you didn’t even mention brain freeze pick 1 pack 1?
I love plow under in the cube please keep it in
Commend you for cutting dreadnaut
Yeah that was a miss
I'm surprised you skipped on the tropical island pick. I feel like that's a pick you would have made a month or two ago just based on watching all these draft videos.
Reanimator tends to be Grixis colors; there don’t tend to be many green cards you’d want other than maybe Channel.
@@Anusien Sure, but it's a late half-on-color fetchable vs. an efficient but replaceable playable. As it turned out there was a pack later on where trop would have made a green fetch land a live pick, where there was otherwise nothing to take.
Also green has other ways to cheat in big stuff, so it maybe opens the door to Oath if it gets opened.
@@shevek5934 “The draft broke in such a way that it would have been better” is the wrong way to evaluate it.
@@shevek5934Totally agree, and I was glad to hear LSV acknowledge it at the end of the draft phase. I think taking a good dual later in pack 1 has a lot of upside even if you have no cards in that color yet. In this draft it was borne out when he later saw Channel, Windswept Heath, and Pest Infestation and was not seeing the reanimator cards, but even if it doesn’t turn into anything, I still like the pick.
P1P1 Archon over Urza made my eyes bleed.
Pour one out for the Urza deck that could have been
What a lovely mess of a deck.
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