Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) Retrospective / Review
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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) Retrospective / Review
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The Blu-Ray release here in the States has the Director's Cut on it, and it looks and sounds amazing! It is my favorite Trek movie ever and has been since I first saw it on HBO in the early-'80's.
Oliver Harper great show its in my top 5 favourite films of all time, remember watching it back in my youth always remember the dead bodies and the ear creatures I'm 41
I did not know James Horner died, that is sad.His music was great.
@@alanscott4846 Yes it is sad. I saw The Wrath of Khan so many times that I can pick his music out of any movie. It is very distinctive.
What a great movie! Great review too.
The new films have absolutely nothing on this. This isn't just the greatest Trek movie, this is one of greatest movies.
JohnnyZenith almost on par with TMP!
@@rexremedy1733 HAHAHAHAHA
I'll always love the review comment "Shatner and Montalban don't just chew up the scenery, they devour it!". They were both at their peak for this.
@@anthonylogiudice9215 You’re an idiot just like Rex.
@@rexremedy1733 ..... and you’re a moron.
Wrath of Khan, E.T., Blade Runner, The Thing, Poltergeist, Rocky III, 48 Hours, and Tron. Add to that The Road Runner (Mad Max 2), they all came out in the summer of 1982. What a summer! I remember it well.
Aaron Morris Road Warrior. Meep meep!
I think you just renamed “Road Warrior” to instead be “Road Runner” - intentional joke? Funny in any case. Beep beep!
My ranking:
9: 48 Hours
8: Poltergeist
7: Rocky 3
6: The Thing
5: Tron
4: Blade Runner
3: Road Warrior
2: ET
1: Wrath of Khan
Also Conan The Barbarian, The Sword And The Sorcerer, Fast Times At Ridgemont High, Last American Virgin, Beastmaster, Friday The 13th Part 3, Halloween Three; Season of the Witch, and Creepshow.
@@ianfindly3257 and Porkys
"I am and always shall be your friend. Live long and prosper."
R.I.P Leonard Nimoy and James Horner
Excellent review Oliver
I just saw this in theaters. It was fantastic, it was playing for one night only. Holy shit it was amazing. Hearing and seeing in a dark theater was something I will remember for a long time. Truly superb.
I agree. I actually saw it no less than four times when it first released in 1982 just for this reason. Only the original Star Wars (at 7 viewings) beats this personal record for movies I saw on first release in theaters.
Not arguing with you, but why do you feel seeing it as an adult would be more special than seeing it as child? i should think the opposite would be the case. I was 10 when the first season of star trek came out and I was totally blown away by it, whereas seeing STNG as an adult of 31 was puirely, "Meh". Like other children, I am sure I was much more easily impressed as a child than now, and am glad I first saw such syfy shows as Star trek, Time Tunnel, Lost in space, and all those various Saturday morning syfy cartoons like space ghost when I was just a kid and not when i was older... and also when those shows were still cutting edge and not overshadowed by later shows with less cheesy effects (and also less well-developed story-telling). :-)
Okay, that makes sense. I thought you meant kid ages in general since, to me, a 13-year-old is definitely still being a kid but memories from around then *are* somewhat clearer and more detailed. I thought you meant any age under 18 or so.
Btw I bought the soundtrack for Wrath of Khan on LP back when it first came out. Played that thing like a million times. LOL
KeithRose I saw it in the theater back when it first came out! It was a great experience! After it was over, we wanted to see it again! So tense!
I know this is a reply to a 5 year old comment, but heads up, they’re re-releasing it for its 40th anniversary! Going to see it next Sunday :)
Saw it with my dad when I was a wee lad, still in my top 10 of all time, excited to see it again!
Ricardo Montalban will *ALWAYS* be Khan.
No, you mean: KHAAAAN!!!
YES. nobody will ever beat his acting.
I heard he couldn't get a job after STII because no one would hire an ex-Khan.
Guess its a good thing they recast Ricardo to reprise the roll.
Yep, even I enjoy the new star trek movies including into darkness I was so pissed he got white washed. The white man gotta have all the parts from 2 face to raz ah gul (great movies for full disclosure) to having the white man be the star in movies like the great wall & last samari. Never ends
One of the best sci-fi films of all time, and definitely the best Star Trek film. Great video! :)
+Noah Griego Agreed. It was so good Abrams and Co. thought they could just remake it with Into Darkness, but you can't replicate success like that.
Same with Nemesis and Generations.
This movie locked me in as a Trekkie. Star Wars, although good, was too much fantasy.
Great plot and chracters. Saw it in theaters as a teenager when realeased. Look back on it today, the movie and visual effects hold up well.
It was a classic good vs evil movie, moving from the wild wild west in space to the story of a great naval battle, all wrapped in classic Trek.
This movie is a science fiction masterpiece.
2nd best Sci Fi movie ever behind the Empire Strikes Back
@@saculmoviereviews9200 I’ve always said this movie deserves the same acclaim as Empire Strikes Back. It’s not fair cuz Nicholas Meyer did so much with a much smaller budget than Irvin Kershner did with Star Wars for their respective sequels. Khan and Kirk didn’t even face each other face to face which was amazing and yet they accomplished so much with this film.
@@saculmoviereviews9200 Star Wars isn’t really sci-fi though is it? More like action/fantasy.
Star Wars is not science fiction. As for Star Trek 2, it's not even close to being a science fiction masterpiece. The movie is a fun space opera.
Agreed
You are absolutly right this a submarine battle of two ship captains in space, chasing each other in the oceans of space, bravo my friend!
He's really not dead as long as we remember him.
And Bones was right.
Of all the beings I've encountered in my travels, his was the most...human.
Great retrospective! This film is a true masterpiece.
Blasted Heath I absolutely do agree both on the film and on the review
Blasted Heath i agree wholeheartedly. Nicholas Meyer did so much with so little to work with. I mean between him and James Horner and Harve Bennett, they all deserve oscars for this movie I swear man it’s not fair Sci fi movies seldom ever get considered for such cred. Imo it deserved oscars just as much and if not then more than aliens and I LOVE aliens.
"Kirk, Kirk. You're still alive, My old Friend" best Delivery of a Line, in the entire Star Trek Franchise. Ricardo Montalban, certainly played the Role as a Nemesis to Kirk, very well indeed
The line, to the Reliant's Captain, "You are in a Position to Demand Nothing. I, on the other hand, am in a Position to Grant Nothing." was delivered Perfectly.
"Still, 'old...friend...' You've managed to kill just about everyone else, but like a poor marksman you keep...missing...the target!"
I like the line Scotty said to Jim, "I know this ship like the back of my hand," and then turns around and bangs his head on a metal beam.
Still my favorite Star Trek film. I cried like a baby when I saw this as a kid, lol. Spock was always my favorite character
This isn’t just the best Star Trek movie, it’s one of the best science fiction movies of all time. I saw this as a kid with little knowledge of the original series, and I loved it. It stands on its own with universal themes that resonate with everyone.
One of my late father's proudest moments as an actor was having a small part in a 1979 production of Twelfth Night in Pittsburgh, with Leonard Nimoy as Malvolio. We lost a truly great actor this year.
Terrific retrospective as usual, Oliver. You really know the value of presentation, good editing, fantastic narration, and deserve far more credit than you receive. You bring class to internet movie reviews, in a way that not many can yet appreciate.
+Douglas Booth Your feedback was much appreciated sir!
You mean Master Xehanort.
Folks, this may be one of the 5 greatest Science-Fiction movies EVER made.
What you consider the top 5?
I agree, it is right up their with Blade Runner and Robocop for me.
no argument here
1: Empire Strikes Back
2: Wrath of Khan
"...5 'greatest' science-fiction..." Objectively best, or subjective favorites?
My top five faves:
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968); Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977, 1980, 1998); Blade Runner: The Final Cut (1982, 2006); The Abyss (1989); Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country (1991)
I first saw this movie with my family when I was 9. This is one of the first times I saw my dad, a big fan of the ST:TOS, cry when Scotty plays ‘Amazing Grace’ at Spock’s funeral service ❤️❤️
Ricardo Montalban was exceptional as Khan. Very much 'episode' in focus it really hit it out of the park. I love this sequel. I'm a fan of all Star Trek movies...even the unlikeable Star Trek 5.
Thank you so much for these reviews and remembrances.
+Mark Hyde "Buried ALIVE!!!" :D
You're a better man than I and I am a dyed-in-the-wool Trekker.
I love Star Trek 5. Go climb a Rock !! :)
I loved the tilt towards the ship being more of a submarine in space. The claustrophobic feeling added to the tension. That at any moment they could "drown" in space and, like the ocean, there's no place to hide when things go wrong.
I preferred the Horner score. It evoked and paid homage to the original series with the beginning everyone recognizes, before transitioning into its own thing. The nautical feel also suits Star Trek better, it after all being a show about a ship that is voyaging into the unknown and having adventures there.
I had Horner’s score on vinyl. It’s the first film soundtrack I ever had. Augmented by the expanded CD.
Jerry Goldsmith is my fave movie music composer but I never did like his Star Trek theme; very simplistic and bit too martial. Kudos to Horner who did a fantastic job. Keep Mozart. Keep Beethoven. Keep them all. I'll take Goldsmith and Horner.
calql8er classical composers of the 18th and 19th century either evoked images or composed for theatre and opera. We are blessed to be living on the era of contemporary classical composers, Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Zimmer, Silvestri....
I always loved both Goldsmith and Horner ' s music. I understand what Oliver is saying regarding keeping a central theme to a series, but it is a bit hard for me to imagine Goldsmith ' s theme opening Star Trek II. Horner provided a perfect score, just as Goldsmith provided the perfect score for the first film which was one of the best things about it. Still, it is Goldsmith ' s sound that would eventually define Star Trek when it was brought back as the theme for Star Trek The Next Generation. Before that, his theme was a one off for a film that was largely ignored in the movie series. It was a bit weird hearing the theme return for Star Trek V after it became the intro to TNG, but Trek V still has a great score. I am glad that Goldsmith got to score the last three TNG films!
One can't wonder what the trajectory of Star Trek would have been if this had been the first Star Trek movie. It was brilliant to have a call back to a previous TV episode.
In regards Saavik--she is half-Vulcan, half-Romulan, which is why she appears so emotional.
Once again, Oliver, you never cease to impress me. But this one was particularly loaded with emotion, thanks to the recent passing of Leonard and James... still, bravo!
As a kid the Spock death scene had me in tears. Loved how Kirk finishes Spock's sentence which he had said earlier in the film. "The needs of the many....outweigh the needs of the few" and Spock says "or the one."
"The emotionless delivery of her lines didn't convince me she was a Vulcan."
Ironic observation.
"Benedict Cummerbund" as "Khan" in "Star Trek: Into Darkness" was a photocopied version of "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan." (He was ruthless and cold, but did not rise to the 'Bond-level villain' that Ricardo Montalban did and exceeded just by his physical presence.) One could almost see the "Kelvin timeline 'Star Trek" collapsing before our eyes.
He had none of the charisma or flair Ricardo did.
I prefer to think of the Kelvin movies like the odd relative we don't talk about in public. A complete embarrassment.
Wraith of Khan is one of my earliest Star Trek memories. I was three years old and my brother was watching it on cable. All I remember was walking out of my bedroom and into the dark living room lit only by the television, seeing Khans burned face creep up over the console of the Reliant, and running back into my room in terror. That memory was lost to me until I was ten years old and saw WOK again. That's when the mempry came flooding back to me. I agree that WOK should have used Jerry Goldsmiths main theme, but I still think it's the best score of the film series over all. I listen to it when building wooden sailing ships on Minecraft. The nautical theme seems to fit perfectly when building Minecraft replicas of old ships of the line like the HMS Victory.
9:40 They put the Kobayashi-Maru in there at the beginning due to the obsessive discussions about Spock's death. It was there to fool the audience into thinking the simulated death at the beginning was the one causing all the fuss. Therefore, the death at the end comes as a surprise.
This is a great point. And I loved Kirstie Allie and thought she should have been the first female captain to get her own show.
exactly
@LoveBadeMe rubbish she was dreadful
I had a mere 10% battery left on my phone when I saw that this video was posted. I had to choose between using the GPS on my phone to get home. Or watching this video and just winging it. I chose to watch the video. And I'm damn happy that I did. This is easily one of my all-time favorite films. It captures all great things Trek. And tells a tremendous story about revenge friendship and getting old.
Isn't it incredible that arguably the best Star Trek film ever made (I say arguably as to not speak for everyone else because IMO it *IS* the best,) was done so with so many people that weren't fans of the series and never even _seen_ the series? Plus the creator Gene Roddenberry had little to no input either.
Amazing how that turned out. I personally this that _Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan_ and _Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country_ were the best movies of the entire franchise. Both directed by Nicholas Meyer.
Sometimes it's just best to get someone who's not familiar to have a fresh perspective on something
If I may be so bold, this is a damn good commentary. I will not presume to debate your wisdom.
+Alfred Valrie Oh shit, you put the Goldsmith music over the battle scene. Okay, 9 out of 10.
I've been watching this movie ever since it came out in theaters and it still amazes me that the creatives behind the scenes ,who admittedly weren't fans or familiar with the original show, made the best Star Trek movie to date.
Two giants. I grew up with Shatner and Nimoy but felt closer to Shatner who was born in Cote-St-Luc in Montreal near my hometown. Many laughed at the mannerisms of Shatner acting but for me, James T. Kirk of the 60's and 80's have been the ultimate federation commander and watching his performance these days as Kirk is still an highlight for me. As a young man, I would have give my right arm to be like him. Good review Oliver! I really enjoyed your analysis and comments!!!
I'm a BIG fan of Nicholas Meyer's "Time After Time", about H.G Wells traveling to 70s New York to catch Jack the Ripper. Great, under appreciated flick.
+Derke73 Yeah that was indeed a great flick (Time After Time) a great movie of Meyer's prior to Wrath Of Khan. Saw it as a kid on TV a few year after its release, and it wasn't something for kids given it had Jack The Ripper in it. but for many years i always liked Meyer's style of direction and love of; *literary/novel* works which he includes in his movies.
How sweet it was growing up in the 80s seeing these films on the big screen.Great times. I just found your channel and really love these retrospectives.
To see this movie in the theater in 1982 was thrilling. I'd seen TMP two years before and was worried there might not be more. But then to see TWoK come out and be so wonderful was such a relief and exciting experience. And remember, there was no Internet in 1982. We heard rumors about the film, read a bit here and there, but didn't really know what would happen in this film or the next. And I really liked ST3, too. That "odd number" is just a trope, a lazy categorization.
Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. Wonderful. So good I watched it 5 times in a row and Im going to watch it again after I write this. RIP Mr. Nimoy.
+Jack Sofalot Thanks a lot Jack!
Oliver Harper A reply from the man himself! What an honor!
+Jack Sofalot And Ricardo Montalban, DeForrest Kelley, James Doohan, Paul Winfield (Capt. Terrell,) Majel Barrett and of course Gene Roddenberry.
34 years later, and there have been good Star Trek movies, but none better. I also absolutely love the music and the nautical style.
Revenge is part of it but I think the key theme is middle age. There's so much in it about getting older, and what it does to your relationship with the young who're headed in; they're the future now, they have all the enthusiasm, but you have the experience, you know what's out there waiting for them. And dealing with death is part of that, which is why losing Spock at the end fits so well. I love Star Trek but this movie, I think, even works for people who aren't really fans.
I peg this movie as one of the most important science fiction films of all time, because of its effects: Paramount was wary of big-budget sci-fi, after the lukewarm reception to the first Star Trek movie, and the collapse of both the original Battlestar Galactica and the Gil Gerard Buck Rogers TV series. Had this movie tanked, I am convinced that science fiction would have stayed firmly dystopian, until at least the original Stargate movie. This movie, by itself, is responsible for the subsequent Star Trek franchise - NextGen, DS9, Voyager and even Enterprise...That said, it's still my hands-down favorite of the theatrical movies.
+The Major -- And please: Do a review of Logan's Run. That is a film that could certainly use a treatment from you.
Dear Oliver - watched many of your reviews and retros recently. Thoroughly enjoyable and comprehensive. I was born in ‘77 and I suspect you were around this time as well given the vintage of your reviews. Please keep them coming they are great, however sadly (or should I say happily) it feels like we were a blessed generation that grew up with some of the best movies of the last few decades.
From Hell's heart, I stab at thee! -- still the best line in any Star Trek movie
Thanks, jerry!
Sincerely, Herman Melville
:)
it's a line from Moby Dick.
Gregory Peck delivered that line superbly ...... but Khan was awesome.
True, but it originated from Shakespeare.
“for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee”
Oliver, your review was the most comprehensive, well read and well thought out review of this fantastic movie I have ever heard or read. You went over such detail, and completely captured every point I wanted to hear. I agree with you in every detail. I was particularly happy to hear your thoughts about the lack of continuity in all the Star Trek films scores. Well done sir!
I still love this movie. Don't forget Paul Winfield was also in TNG's Darmok!
Wrath of Khan had me feeling the full range of emotions. One of very few films to have me in tears. I've watched it a few dozen times and each time I watch it I notice a few things I hadn't before, it's pretty deep.
The needs of the many out way the needs of the few, or the one. Word's to live by!
I absolutely love your intro cuts, they‘re like new trailers with perfect music.
This is one of my top ten all-time favourite films, everything works. A great swashbuckling adventure story with great acting all round, Shatner deserves a special mention (i always get the feeling in the following films his performances started to descend into a parody of himself) for nailing it in every scene.
The soundtrack was perfectly pitched (Oliver you were right about the Goldsmith theme it works well too).
Good review.
I personally think this is the best of the TOS movies. It's been almost 40 years since I saw it in the theatre the day it opened and I never tire of it, no matter how many times I've seen it. I had the pleasure of seeing it at the 50th Anniversary convention in New York where Nick Meyer premiered the director's cut and a couple of years ago saw it on the big screen followed by a discussion with Shatner. Nice job on the video.
If one read the book, there was a bit of a back story for Saavik who was actually a Vulcan/Romulean hybrid.
bovnyccc operalover that’s great! I am a hybrid as well...
Another great review in retrospective. One of my all-time favorite movies and, of course, one of my favorite sci-fi films
Another great retrospective of a great film. If there were an online equivalent to the Academy Award®, I reckon you would be a nominee in some category or other. You clearly have fans of your work the world over, and even for films that are largely deemed to be terrible you give their few good points a chance to shine. You obviously love what you do and it really shows in the final product.
Among top-ten films of the last 100 years. Surpasses anything from Star Wars. Peak Star Trek. Thank you for being a major and enriching part of my entire life.
Turns 40 today and im about to watch it right now for the very first time. Thank you Oliver for having the very best retrospectives. Cheers
James Horner's music is epic. the Khan theme has a feral barbaric sound
Thank you for all the background info on this and all of your other reviews ! Cheers !
RIP James Horner and Leonard Nimoy (both died this year).
+Kurt Garwood I know they passed away this year its mentioned in the review.
Thank you, Oliver, you are the best and most thorough reviewer on YT. Please, please, please, please, please do a review/retrospective of Star Trek IV.
+Broyale26 I will get to it at some point.
+Oliver Harper
I have been, and always shall be..subscribed. Live long and prosper.
Back when movies were fan-tastic!
Great review as always, the sequence with Chekov and Terrell exploring Ceti Alpha V had a big effect on me as a kid, really tense and creepy with the pay-off involving the scary brain bugs finishing it perfectly.
Back in the days when Star Trek strived for realism and was both fun and emotional. Recent Star Trek is just an action flick. What was so impressive about this, mentioned in this video, is that Harve Bennett started this project without knowing Star Trek at all. Rather than just take it in his own direction and ignore everything that came before, like a certain recent Star Wars director, he went back and watched every single Star Trek episode to prepare to make this movie. I guess movie makers are too lazy to do things like that these days. Thanks to everyone who came together to make this masterpiece of a movie.
Rob L much like suggesting Empire Strikes Back is responsible for the subsequent Star Wars franchise, I wonder if Star Trek could have continued without Wrath of Khan. Roddenberry was (thankfully) excluded from production, but I wonder if there would have been an appetite for Next Gen in 1987, if there was no Trek II, III or IV
I've only knew of Ricardo Montaban when he was an old, frail man. Damn, that dude was a straight up beast when he was young.
Great Retrospective as always. I remember having this movie on a VHS, it was recorded alongside movies like "Ghostbusters 2" and something else. I never sat through it, but I do remember the slugs going into the ears and Spock's death. In short this would technically be the first "Star Trek" movie I sorta seen, until "Star Trek:Generations". I now want to see this movie in it's entirety.
Yeah, the deaths of Leonard Nimoy and James Horner was a huge shock. We lost a lot of great icons this year, Nimoy and Horner, Yvonne Craig, Dusty Rhodes, Roddy Piper, Christopher Lee, and most recently Wes Craven.
The main theme to this film is, by far, the most memorable...I still get chills!
This film in my opinion is the perfect film and one of my all time favorites!!! Got a chance to watch it on the big screen with a live Q&A with Shatner afterwards, it was amazing!!!
"I don't know where he gets his height from, appearing taller than his mother and father." My mother is 5ft 7. My father is 5ft 9. I'm 6ft 8. That's 2.03 meters for those who don't know ft and inches. People can easily be taller than other members of their family.
Has anyone noticed the poster art (or video cover) the enterprise is shooting lasers at the space station his where Kirk's son David & his mother work? How was that overlooked?
Your opening montage is very good.
David got his height from being Kirk's son. A lot of guys are taller than their fathers. I know I am.
I think it's got something to do with the mother's height. My mom's not as tall as my dad, but she's well above female average, while he's right in the middle.
If your son is taller than you and your wife is shorter than you, then she had an affair and the kid isn’t yours. It’s science.
@@MichaelRichards983 Sorry but that's not science. I assume you were joking.
@@Trev359 Research it and then we will talk about it, sound good?
@@MichaelRichards983 SO you weren't joking? Then you're talking bollocks. So no it doesn't sound good. I don't need to research it. I know for a fact that's rubbish. I am taller than my father was and my mother was shorter than him but he was definitely my father. I look just like him and his father. I get my height from his father who was very tall. Genes do skip a generation sometimes you know.And don't you dare insult my mother's memory by suggesting she had an affair. 1. she was totally against that sort of thing and 2. As, I said I have my father's family looks.
Great work and an awesome retrospective. I thought I knew most of the info behind this movie, but I learned a few new things. Keep up the great work!
"the emotionless delivery of her lines didn't convince she me was Vulcan"
Wait, what?
I don’t think he gets Vulcans.
I think she did well.
This movie was(is) so awesome...I remember riding my bike to the local 1$ movie theater(yes you could see a movie for a buck in 82). Saw it 20+ times, also was able to score the soundtrack for a buck at the local mall(The Form in Arlington TX). Still have it. RIP James Horner.
Thank you Oliver this is one of my favorites
Unless I am mistaken, you do an awesome job with these opening trailers for each of your reviews. They give a perfect picture of the scope and essence of each film.
You deserve way more subscribers!
+Clint Dlowrev spread the word my friend
Will do, my friend,
+Oliver Harper I'm on it
+Oliver Harper you are a very talented man. I was wondering if you were interested would you check out my youtube channel? I do reviews of under rated movies. But I also do some amateur film making.
+Clint Dlowrev: Agreed. Well, at least he's got one more now!
I got to see this film a few years ago at the stranahan theater in toledo ohio while Mr. Shatner was on tour.
I had never seen it in a theater setting before, was a great experience seeing it on the big screen and with a large audience.
There was also had a stage performance by Mr. Shatner after the movie, was really an honor to see him in person for the first time.
Is it just me or is Khan the most sympathetic villain in Star Trek ? I mean I would really like to have seen him and his people going out on their own Journey, get into adventures and maybe even having the opportunity to redeem themselves and become good guys for at least some oppressed peoples !
I don't know maybe it's just Ricardo Montalban he really was a Powerhouse actor . I really wish he got more roles than 'I can remember' than just Star Trek, Fantasy Island and 'God help me', Spy Kids !
Dunno why I've missed out on this channel before... But I'm hooked now... One of the best reviews I've seen on this tremendous classic... And yes, although I also prefer the VI undiscovered country, this is a feast...! Going to explore your channel, from now on, bravo for the vid
It is a shame Kirk and Khan never got a scene together, not even for a final confrontation.
I prefer it this way.
Agreed, a physical encounter would have been awesome.
totally wasted
Such a great film. Among many other things, there are some terrific acting performances from supporting characters.
Love your videos, dude! Keep it up!
I was obsessed with this film as a kid when we had it on betamax and can still to this day quote it adverb at um. I love you're review and have been waiting for you to do it for a while. many thanks.
Another great review. It was nice that you remembered Leonard Nimoy & James Horner. I know, why don't we just send them to the planet with the Genesis Project?
I went to the cinema to see this in the early 80's - loved it. Ricardo Montalban was just an incredible villain.
Out of the first 4 Star Trek films I've seen so far, The Wrath of Khan is the best Star Trek film with the original cast members in my opinion.
As always another hit for your work Oliver. To be honest, my introduction to the Star Trek universe did not come from the live action TV series, but from the animated one. In the late 70's and early 80's many TV series were not shown in order (or even complete) here in Chile and Star Trek switched one season from one station to another. But the animated series was shown by only one station and was programmed after I return from school so I could see it in a proper way and understand who Captain Kirk and Spock were and there importance in the sci-fi world. Although I like both JJ Abrahms interpretations of the Enterprise, I think that no other "Star Trek" has been as awesome as "Wrath of Khan" and although it was not the blockbuster it deserve as years go by it has turn into a real classic of cinema. Thanks Oliver for remind us of that and keep on bringing more classics to your channel.
Love this film to death. Just hated the fact it was so popular that they kept remaking it. Nemesis and Into Darkness and this revenge in space plotline. RIP Horner and Leonard
A lot like ALIENS, which was cloned countless times in not only the tie ins to the ALIEN franchise, but also by every other sci-fi action flick! But still, ALIENS is a great film, just like Star Trek II is a great film.
My all time favorite film its one I can literately quote line for line along with the characters.
Ahhh a fellow man of culture
Here is a nice factoid that is strangely little known. JJ Abrams' parents were close friends with Nicolas Meyer, so much so that he was Uncle Nick to JJ growing up. That fact makes it very strange to me that not only was JJ not a Star Trek Fan growing up, but that he shit so mightily on the series, especially using Khan so terribly. Sorry Uncle Nick.
Jim Humphries To be fair, he didn't write the screenplay. Of course, he could have changed a few things, so...
I don't really blame JJ too much. He wasn't a fan, but they hired him anyway, he did the job. I like almost nothing about JJ Trek, but he did do a solid job on it. I liked the score and the casting. The script and the production design were pretty much trash though. And they got worse with each film.
Gutted just found out from your vid that James Horner passed away in a plane crash. The krull sound track is my favorite film score ever : (
Great video as usual, Oliver.
Still the best ST film, even after all these years!
I once started the score for Wrath of of Kahn and Aliens at the same time by mistake . The result was .... very interesting. I ended up downloading both and overlaying them. I have listened to "Wrath of Aliens" many times since.
I think the original cast got a great lineup of films overall. 2,3,4,6 ranged from good to great (Search for Spock is very underrated) The first film, while a bore, still had some interesting stuff. Only 5 was crap.
The Next Generation on the other hand only had one, First Contact that was good. Generations was a mess, Nemesis was odd, and insurrection as the worst out of the series!
+A GriffinTV insurrection would've made a good two part tv episode, didn't work for a movie
+KD84Afc™ I sadly disagree. Linkara from AT4W said it best, it feels like a really bad episode of a TV episode. A bland silly story, which doesn't feel remotely movie worthy. The Motion picture was an epic story, and the Fifth at least tried to be epic. Insurrection is just meh.
Biggest issue with Next Generation films was having the same TV production staff doing the movies. That was Paramounts biggest mistake they should have kept the TNG producers and production staff as consultants instead of having direct involvement with the movies in the end TNG's movie run was a total disaster.
A GriffinTV see I don't think so as t.v. production is different to films, I believe the story would of been stronger as they wouldn't had to rely on big budget special effects
Maybe, but Bennett wanted a Starfleet Academy movie.
Was very interested to see your take on this as I love WoK. Found your comment about bringing in Khan for Into Darkness interesting. Too soon? you mean into the second movie of a series.....errrr.....
Still, a solid review as always and I agree with Clint, you deserve more people to see your work
One of my favorite films of all time. Good review. ...One of the few bonuses about The Motion Picture was the score, but I think Horner's score surpases it COMPLETELY, and I kind of like that he repeats certain beats in Aliens (Krull is a bit wank, let's face it so doesn't really count.) I also like that "III" carries the same theme. IV NEEDED that different score, or perhaps should have re-claimed the Goldsmith theme if Next Gen hadn't stolen it. There's no way that the earth-bound comedy of IV would lend itself to the awesome haunting Horner space-balad (vice versa, but you know what I mean). RIP Horner... again very nice review.
Hi Oliver. You do a really nice job on these retrospective/review videos. I can't imagine how long it takes to edit them. And that's only AFTER you figure out what to say, in what order to say it, and what clips to show to bolster your thoughts. After watching reactors, most of whom just sit and make comments, your videos are really top-notch. You have a nice narration style and your comments are well taken.
Thanks for your comments on III. I used to go along with the even-good-odd-bad idea, but I enjoy III. It's so heroic, and one of the best scenes in Star Trek lore is the stealing of the Enterprise, all done with models and film legerdemain. Also, people always leave off VI, which I thought very well done, what with its darker tone and seriousness, which conveyed weight.
So, do you actually ever sleep? :) I just found you tonight, so I'm going to have to browse around. Lots of goodies. i gravitated here after watching your excellent video on "The Last Starfighter," which I saw when it first came out. I now have it on Blu-ray and had Craig Safan return an e-mail with an MP-3 of his opening theme when I lamented all these recorded cover versions were flying through the brilliant overture too fast. An analogy would be gulping a fine wine, instead of savoring it. He was so nice and said he enjoyed the different versions, but he sent me the file.
After watching your "The Last Starfighter," I came here, but I have to go to bed, as enticing as all your other videos are. There's tomorrow! By the way, for your private viewing, should you be amenable, I complimented a wonderful video-graphics designer in South America on her redo of the opening credits of Starfighter. So much fun because I get to hear Safan's stirring overture: ruclips.net/video/cdukjSwpzqA/видео.html She also redid "Superman: The Movie:" ruclips.net/video/uITtkokKgPo/видео.html Cheers!!! :)
Gosh the best Star Trek movie everything about it is incredible!!!
I used to hate Star Trek The Motion Picture as a kid. I now see myself as lucky to watch it on the big screen. Now i absolutely love it…and watch it with the sequel straight after,nearly every time i watch it,with 3 & 4 the next day. I watched all four on the big screen. I rate Wrath Of Khan is my perfect Star Trek movie.
As always,thanks for another shining review!
thanks for the Horner tribute
I think the smaller budgets pushes creatives to come up with unique ways to get the look and effects they want... Wrath of Khan is a great example of this, small budget and maybe the best effects of any Trek film - Change my mind? Great juxtaposition of the genetically superior Khan and Kirk putting on his reading glasses. Love the navel tone - Classic! I should also say I get teary eyed every-time Spock adjusts his uniform suffering from radiation before addressing his captain.
i just saw that Paramount is in fact going to release a Blu Ray Director's Cut version of Wrath Of Khan ...something i am personally looking forward to
If they'd fix a couple of effects, like the screen around the genesis effect sales pitch video I'd love it. Those look like they were generated on a C64. not the genesis effect, that looks very Amiga. lol. but the screen surrounds look so poorly rendered.
I saw this in the theater in 1982 (was 13 then) and loved it. Watch it again from time to time. The optical effects stand up well after almost 40 years. Score is great. My teenage kids enjoy it too.
Don't get me started about Into Darkness. My wife and I laughed at the absurd scene when Cumberbatch revealed that he was Khan. I refuse to rewatch that forgetable movie.
i really like the first one, but i have to say that the second one works better as a film.