Mister, why you aren't on nationwide television is beyond me. I used to foolishly think l knew a lot about firearms before l started watching - and became addicted to - your video's. You are extremely knowledgable and your video's hold my interest throughout your presentation. Outstanding work, sir!
@@mojolotz These weapons were designed at the turn of the century (late 19th century). The Napoleonic wars were not too long ago, and in fact right up through WW1, massed volley fire remained a standard infantry tactic. The sight was just to ensure your gun was pointed in the correct general direction and area, rather than to aim the gun at individual targets. That's why rifles continued to use such long-range, full power rounds even though infantry combat had (especially by WW2) evolved so as to take place largely within 100-300m, rather than 1-3km...
Fun fact: You will find the exact same thing on the rear-end of an MG 42 sling (and consequently on the MG3). Although the forward hook is done as a karabiner for more secure fastening at the two different hook-spots beneath the barrel.
Pretty sweet little story, my dad found the stock of one of these in an old apple bin when I was a kid. Through shear luck we held onto it all these years, now that I'm old enough (and a big enough gun nut) to understand what I've got, I plan on rebuilding the rifle piece by piece.
@@fieryfive0127 Going to shit sadly. It's a weird rifle because some parts are easy to find but others are a nightmare. So I didn't want to risk putting money in if I can't complete it.
@Rad Baeron THAT'S A SMOKIN DEAL, THAT'S WHAT I GOT MINE FOR FROM A LOCAL GUN STORE A MONTH AGO, ALL MATCHING MINT BORE!! GOT LUCKY RAN INTO A COLLECTION A MOM WAS SELLING THAT HER SON HAD. CAPS LOCK IS THE NEW WAVE BUDD.😉👉
I got one of these from my grandfather after he passed it's a beautiful rifle. also got several other mauser types like a K98 made in 1917. Pretty awesome and accurate guns.
Haha, when I saw the proof marks I thought: "funny, these must be a Japanese or Chinese production batch" I am german, so not complely unfamiliar with the old lettering lol.
This 400m meter zero thing isn't quite as massively huge an issue as going clear over someones head(unless you aimed at their head) it could hit about 10 inches higher in the worst case scenario. An 8mm mauser is much flatter shooting than for instance the 7.62x39 out of an akm and its sighting system had a 300m "battle zero" setting which would pretty much hit any standing target from 100-300m, standard soviet doctrine at the time was to aim for the guy's belt buckle and you would be assured to hit the torso somewhere.
Forgotten or not, doesn't matter. Forgotten Weapons was and will remain your unique theme Ian, but now I want to see your takeaway of every gun, bazooka, and slingshot that turns your fancy. Keep up the awesome work.
Don’t forget the widespread G3 and iconic MP5. It may not be as prevalent as it used to be due to the pacification of Germany and its wartime industry, but german engineering lives on
Well technically Mauser 1871, grandparent to this rifle and was a standard issue as a sniper until 1960 in germany so this rifle was used for a good 80 to 89 years.^^ More you know, good line and legacy for a family to say the least, and as a standard untill military rifle for military service was actually till 1970 to 1972 in south Africa smaller countrys as well as south America and oceanic countrys so the Muaser rifle might be arguably the longest serving rifle with the least amount of change to it over all. Rifle used as a standard, Mauser: 100 to 89 years, longest rifle service compared to the brown bass Enfield rifle which was 110 to 105 years. For English use.
The Mauser 98's manufactured by Husqvarna of Sweden are excellent hunting rifles for winter treetop bird hunting @ up to 400m and are often rebuilt into modern composite stocks with bipod mount.
YT channels like this are what I've been missing since the History Channel went to shit in the 00s. and videos like this and The Great War channel are much, much better than peak History Channel. thank you for all of the wonderful videos!
Ian this is another fine video. I Love and respect your work. I research old weapons and kinda document them in my 'journals of sorts' but I don't have access to the firearms you show Us all here. I think you must be working crazy hours to bring all of this to the viewers. You are one of the absolute best on weapons and I truly enjoy your videos on the off the wall BS, that folks made to peddle off on American buyers. They are the modern 'Snake-oil' salesmans and it is You who helps the average individual from wasting their time and money on the junk they have to peddle! Thank You and I pray you Well! I just wanted to clarify something about the G98 rifle, here. I think that you may have accidentally confused veiwers about. Like you said, back in the day, ruptured cartridges were more common and always a bad thing, especially with smokeless powder. The G98 protected the shooter very well. In the video, you mentioned that the slots in the bottom of the bolt vented a potential gas issue down but it really didn't. The vents were in the bottom of the bolt, so when the bolt rotated 90* right into lock-up/firing/exploding cases mode, they were pointed to the left. The ejector slot, firing pin hole and any seepage would direct this blast thru those slots into the solid slot of the receivers left bolt lug slot. This could vent rearward and exit out of the big relief on the left of the receiver in front of the receiver bridge. The bolts shroud, carrying the safety pretty well sealed this from the shooter's face, with this Avenue of escape! I hope this helps the veiwers understand this better. Again, Thank You for Your Excellent Work. Great Video!
Bolt action rifles don't have barrel heating and expansion issues because of a painstakingly slow rate of fire. Semi-automatic weapons also might not suffer to the same degree from heating barrels, as automatic weapons do. Barrel heating and expansion, though, is a major problem in AKM/AK74 and M16, etc. Some of the earlier machine guns, like the Maxim, used water cooled barrels, but those made them too heavy, so, now, they're all air-cooled, but come with multiple barrels, which you have to swap whenever they heat up, usually after 400 to 3000 rounds of sustained fire, depending on how long the non-firing intervals are. One could also use liquid nitrogen for cooling, but that would be another layer of complexity and another point for potential failure and servicing. If the barrel expands with heat, the gases will leak(to slow the propulsion) and even the bullet will lose the initial angle of its trajectory, so rifling helps keep the bullet on its axes through the barrel. Rifling also makes the bullet spin for greater in-flight stability against wind, for greater energy, and also for greater penetrative power. Unless the barrel expands a little to dissipate some of the heat, it could heat the bullet to a point whereby the bullet would lose shape even though heat smaller than the melting point would help the bullet in flight by creating a low pressure around it. The barrel has to transfer heat, via convection, to the ambient environment, but cuts could make the weapon clog up with dirt. The barrel has to also lose some heat, via conduction, to the slide and the rail, but if both expand disproportionately, they'll jam. The rail and the casing have to lose heat, via convection, to avoid transferring too much to the chamber, the magazine, and the handgrip. You can't have smaller automatic weapons with powerful cartridges, because the weight of the gun, the muzzle brake, the counteracting cylinder and/or weight, and shock absorbent materials would either prove insufficient or add too much bulk and complexity or frailty; when complexity malfunctions, it is very tedious to fix it. Frailty needs frequent maintenance. On the contrary, you also can't have light, long-range weapons with smaller cartridges. Except for rocket propelled munitions(which have no recoil because the mass of gases escaping at the back counteracts the forward propelled mass of the munition), all chambered weapons would have a recoil proportionate to the size of the propellant. These days small arms, tanks and even artillery have turned inconsequential to modern armies, which rely primarily on air power and either smart/non-smart and shoulder-fired single-barrel or vehicle- mounted multi-barrel rockets. SMGs, like the Ppsh-41(75 round capacity) or MP5, are still relevant in close quarter combat because they deliver a portable rate of fire power equal to that of a machine gun. Portable grenade launchers and shotguns are also relevant in close quarter combat because of the spread or broad destructive power. Pistols can be useful in enclosed spaces, where police and special forces experience most of their combat. Long range rifles are still useful for sniping. Assault rifles bridging the gap between the SMGs and sniping rifles and long-range munitions are still required, though, rarely used, unless these come with collapsible butts. Even tanks and howitzers/guns are obsolescent on the modern battlefield. Tanks and howitzers/guns have very large profiles/silhouettes that make them visible from a long distance. These are also very noisy. Seismic, thermal, acoustic, EM, and image-recognition sensors can pinpoint these from a very long distance. Satellites and surveillance aircraft and drones can easily spot these from the skies. Projectile tracking radars can pinpoint them, the minute they fire even a single round, sensors. They have a very low rate of fire, and are very slow to aim and move, so these don't stand a chance against combat aircraft(almost unlimited range, exceptional evasive maneuverability and speed, and multiple simultaneous engagement capacity from stand-off distances) attack helicopters, drones or even shoulder-fired guided or unguided munitions. Ground forces and small arms are only required if you can't make an enemy surrender with overwhelming air power or flatten out the entire place with air- or missile-delivered conventional or nuclear weapons, and have to physically hunt the enemy in a densely populated civilian area.
Honestly I would have to say that based on the amount of confusion I've seen people display with regards to the Mauser "98" series of rifles, that anything which isn't a mid-late WWII production still easily counts as "forgotten" in some ways.
If only all things are explained well like this.. I really like how specific Ian can be and same time interesting!! And this is your every video.. Greetings from Finland
Excellent video! A few things, this is a particularly interesting 1905 Spandau. If you look at the bayonet lug, you will notice that the it's the early unrelieved style. Later ones will be machined down at the 'H' part of the band. 1905 is fairly late for this feature to as most were later style by this time. Most likely a left over part, left over 200M sight bases do appear randomly during the 1905-06 time frame especially at the state arsenals. In regard to the finish, at the end of 1917 a rust blued finish with white bolt was ordered. This began to appear in the August 1918 time frame. It is possible to find 1918 dated gew 98s from most of the producers that maintained production that late with rust blued receivers, such guns are very rare and demand a premium. I have seen a half dozen or so myself. In addition to normal production with these rifles you have a lot of off standard production. Not only Sterngewehrs produced by the state arsenals, but also 'H' Spandaus produced at the Hanover Depot in a non-factory setting. Acceptance patterns show this, these rifles will only have the first of the three proofs on the right side of the receiver, most are made from subcontracted receivers. Saxon Sterngewehrs were produced at a ammunition plant in Dresden. Don't quote me as I don't remember exactly but German rifles didn't roll over serial numbers until around 1905. They just kept going, which for years mislead information about how many of these early guns were actually made. I can tell you about this particular rifle that the bolt is not factory matching. It could have been renumbered in a wartime rework. If you look at the firing proof on the underside of the bolt root you will see rearing lion. This is the Amberg arsenal's firing proof. Were there any numbers on the buttplate that would indicate a wartime rework? Re-numbered bolts from this era during the war are very common I have owned a bunch with this feature.
My rifle is marked Berlin 1915 and is exactly like the gun shown in every way , except the added hole through the stock for tool . It seems the manufacture or assembly at Berlin was somewhat behind time .
Fun Fact: The manual for Castle Wolfenstein (AKA the original Wolfenstein game from 1981) describes the gun that the player uses as a "Mauser M-98 pistol fully loaded with ten bullets". Ironically, no rifles are actually seen or used anywhere in the game.
I have one...but my grandfather cut it down to hunting carbine size back in the 70s. Kind of a dick move. No bayonet, no long ass barrel. It's likely less accurate and the sights are not compatible with the barrel length but it's still beautiful.
@@TomFromRUclips I'm not surprised. I could never cut down one of these beauties. They're nearly ceremonial in appearance. Now I've got an uncannily handsome looking standard hunting rifle. At least the sights are also aesthetically pleasing
They weren't able to change the rear sight when they switched to the new ammo. One wonders why they didn't just install taller front sights to solve the problem. Admittedly, the markings on the rear sight would no longer correlate with real ranges, but you wouldn't have to aim ridiculously low at short ranges. I'd guess, from my experience with similar calibers, that, with a 400 yd setting on the rifle, you would have to aim between the hips and knees to hit a man in the sternum at 100 yds.
I'm evaluating this for practical hunting. I have no interest in its historical value. 1- This uses the same 7.92x57mm cartridge with a longer barrel, so should have a longer range, a smaller recoil, and even a smaller flash than the Kar98(which is a carbine, or a shortened variant of this). The Kar98, though, should be lighter and easier to aim if you're not resting it on anything. The Kar98 should also be easier to move laterally in woods because it is shorter. The sights set at minimum 400m is also a drawback for the G98, even though one would prefer to use long barrel rifles only at longer ranges, unless suprised by prey at shorter ranges. The walls of the sight blocking peripheral vision are another drawback. 2- If the Kar98 has scopes specifically made for it, since a hunting rifle of the same specs is still in production in Germany, and still good at 1000 meters, then the Kar98 would be preferable. 3- The prices for the SVD63(Dragunov) have really shot up in my part of the world, so I have to choose between the 7.92x57mm G98, Kar 98, rhe 7.62x54R Mosin Nagant, the 7.7x56R Lee Enfield, or the 7.62x63mm M1 Garand. I believe that within the 20 to 24inch barrel category, the M1 should be a better choice because of its semi-automatic fire and muzzle-brake/flash supressor. The longer barrels would only be useful with scopes specifically made for those rifles. 0.308 H&K G3s, over here, are expensive and as heavy as the vintage weapons, even though the 0.308 has a very god ballistic trajectory over intermediate distances. gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/ 1000m isn't much. The foesight of the 0.303 covered a man at 1000 meters, so scopes should be good for deer. Any thoughts?
As always excellent video Ian, thank you sir.In the video you state that the extractor will snap over case heads for single loading. Since I have never shot a Gew 98 I have to ask is this correct or a slip? I love 98 Mausers but the flat extractor face sometimes gives me fits when I forget to single load by inserting the round in the magazine. This feature once cost me a Vintage service rifle match when shooting my IDF K98.Stuck cartridge in chamber=too much time to clear.
..I've got a Kar 98 that began life as a Gew 98 made in Spandau in 1916...amazing because it survived the Great WAR. The Weimar Reoublic, WWII and the worst enemy, Bubba...no import marks..
so all germans where aiming really low during to whole war? So let's say they'd spot head in the other trench, would they aim into the dirt under it to make a hit? Did I misunderstand this? It sounds super irritatiing to be a german soldier a hundred years ago.
I just bought an all matching Gew 98 Mauser from 1915 I am super excited. Thank you battlefield 1 for making this rifle live rent free in my head for years now. I am so happy to have one I will add it to the wall of the rest of my WW1 rifles and WW2 rifles. Side note I like to put the rifles that fought against each other side by side on my wall. Maybe one day I will over hear a distant insult from the other side.
Aren't more rounded nose bullets better (ballistic coefficient wise) at slower speeds? If so, what is the speed at which a pointed bullet profile becomes more efficient?
Round is better subsonic, pointed is better supersonic. Pretty much all full rifle rounds post smokeless powder are supersonic except for oddballs made for suppression like the .300 blackout.
Also, round or flat noses are pretty much required for tube magazines for obvious reasons which is why lever action rounds like 30-30 have round/flat noses.
A- I think the 7.92x57mm caliber is still very good for hunting and sniping. But, even the 7.62x51mm and 7.62x39mm calibers are not very suitable for automatic fire from personal defense weapons because of uncontrollable recoil. The sub-5mm cartridge isn't a novelty. I've been studying encyclopedias, books, journals and magazines on national security, defense, and war for over 50 years, since the age of 9, and have practically used most of these weapons long before I earned my BS degree in engineering, and embarked on an executive career more than 34 years ago. I first read about the 4.73x33mm HK G11 that fired caseless ammunition in 1978, 1979 or 1980. I never got to use it because it never went into production. It was a scoped, bull-pup design somewhat like the French FAMAS and the British SAR80. It failed only because the logistics and use of careless ammunition was very complicated. I still believe the 4.6/4.7mm calibre holds great promise for close quarter combat. The German Kurz was 7.92x33mm, and it was still practical for controlled automatic fire. The German 7.63x25mm was controllable even with short barrel lengths. The German 4.73x33mm with. 21 inch barrel was good even at assault ranges of 300 to 400m. I believe anything under 5.8mm with a case length of 33mm should be good for controlled fire even with short barrel lengths and even good at assault ranges of around 300 to 400 meters. For close quarter combat, I think magazine capacity of 75 to 90 rounds, like the PPsh-41, would be preferable. For sniping, barrel lengths of 24 to 30 inches do help with larger ammo. Hybrid assault/close quarter combat rifles like the AK74/M-16 carbine have barrel lengths of around 14.5 to 15.5 inches. I, personally, would want a bullpup with a 21inch barrel. For close quarter combat, 7 to 10 inch barrels can be easily used even in enclosed spaces. With a bullpup design, it might be easier to even use a 10 to 16 inch barrel in enclosed spaces. A pistol with 6 to 7 inch barrel might be handy in a vehicle, giving one a range of around 100m. Anything over 4.4 inches might be too inconvenient for concealed carry. B- Every caliber would have diminishing returns in range, once the optimal barrel length for that particular caliber is exceeded. 1- The 9x19mm MP5 delivers a muzzle velocity of 400 m/S with an 8.9 inch barrel at an effective range of 200m. 9X19mm parabellum doesn't exceed an MV of 400 m/s regardless of barrel length because of the smaller cartridge/propellant. 2- The 4.6x30 mm MP7 delivers an MV of 735 m/s with only a 7 inch barrel to penetrate body armor at 200m. It also delivers a controlled rate of fire of 950 rounds/minute. A longer barrel length could help extend the range, considering the high propellant to bullet-weight ratio. 3- The 5.7x28mm FN P90 delivers an MV of 715 m/s with 10 to 16 inch barrels for an effective range of 200m and a maximum range of 1.8 KM. It does so with a breathtaking rate of fire of 1100 rounds/minute. Down-calibering helps tremendously with controlled automatic fire. It would take precious seconds to grab and point an FN P90, so I prefer HK MP designs. 4- Thinner bullets have a greater penetrative power. The Mauser 7.63x25mm has a greater penetrative power than the Luger 9x19mm parabellum. A longer bullet could also have the same or greater lethality because the imbalanced mass would tumble on impact, but in practical use larger bullets have greater stopping power to paralyze the nervous system because of a larger instantaneous impact energy.
3:58 Hi, don't think you're going to see this, but just to let you know, Ian, it's pronounced lah-n-geh vih-zee-ehr, not lah-n-j vi-zeer, sorry for the pedanticism
US troops felt the sting of the 98 Mauser during the Spanish-American War as they looked questioningly at their own inferior Kragg-Jorgensen rifles. The 1903 Springfield was a result of this experience and pretty much a copy of the 98.
Austin pierce I'd be more interested in a FPS that takes realism more seriously, with weapon jams, overheating, heavier weapons being harder to handle than light ones. What's the point of having an FPS that's set in an earlier war just to have it play just like every other military FPS?
"...definitely not a forgotten weapon" But probably one that many people wish they could forget!!! Best is perhaps debatable, but it might take the cake for most-rechambered - the one area where the Lee-Enfield falls down, due to the inadvisability of using the Lee action (especially the SMLE) for high pressure cartridges.
Can do a review on that other great First World War German rifle, namely the GOO 98? Iraqveteran8888 did one. It's like similar to the Gew 98, but different... :D
I have a Danzig 1917 Gew98 with all matching serial numbers, save for the magazine follower, of all things. I've been wanting to take it out and shoot it so badly but I have had my doubts, seeing as how it is nearly 100 years old. The only issues I've seen with the rifle are purely cosmetic, though. I've stripped it down and cleaned it fully and the issues with it are a rusty butt plate, rust on the face of the trigger, and some pitting on the side of the bolt under the extractor. There is no rust or grit within the action itself and the bolt face, firing pin, and rifling are flawless. In your opinion and experience, do you think my rifle would be safe to fire using modern 8mm?
I have a Danzig 1904 and have shot it with PPU ammo i bought from Cabelas. The only problem wrong with mine was my stock split where some previous owner "Sporterized" it. Trying to get a new stock for the gun.
This sounds like a example you see before you read about somebody's face getting wrecked.get somebody that knows what there doing to inspect your rifle best free advice your gonna get.
I have a 1936 sauer and sohn k98, and I shoot it often. What is important is using good, hi quality ammo. No steel case, no old milsurp. The only issue is after about 50 rounds, the barrel gets very hot, expands, and puts stress on the wood stock and barrel Bands. It is an old rifle and can’t be handled roughly or excessive rounds fired. Just be aware of this and I don’t think you should have any problems.
Better figure out the difference between the .318" and .323" diameter ammo, FIRST! Your rifle is chambered(from the German arsenal, anyhow) for .318 ammo.
This is only useful for hunting. By WWII, air power was so prevalent that most man-to-man engagements took place at very close range, hence the Germans invented the 7.92x33mm Stg 44, the Russians came up with the 7.62x25 PPsh-41(after their defeat, primarily, to a Finnish SMG), and the Americans with the M3. An American General, Hal, deemed the PPsh-41 the miracle weapon of the Korean war. 7.62x39mm AK47 outperformed the American M-16 only because it was smaller, even though the 5.56x45 M-16 was better in every respect. The AK47 still couldn't be easily controlled on auto, so they down-calibred to the 5.45x39mm AK-74. As far as hunting is concerned, the longer/larger the cartridge, the narrower and not too light the bullet(the heavier the bullet, rhe greater the energy, and the lesser the trajectory influenced by wind, provided the cross-sectional area isn't too large to induce a large drag, and provided the recoil of the propellant can be offset via other means), the longer the range. Good optics, of course, make the package complete.
Back in the late 70's when I was a Marine Sgt, I had two rifles I bought at Woolworth's in San Diego. I had a K91 Argentine Mauser in 7.92mm, complete with a huge bayonet, and a K95 Steyr
My first rifle was a gew 98, unfortunately the previous owner sporterized it, I do plan to return it to its former glory, it didn't serve two world wars to have its dignity stripped from it
I can tell you i was glad 2 weeks ago that they put those safety features on the k98. The S&B crap primer was pierced by the firing pin and my face was saved by that gas shield. Thank you Mauser (and i'll never buy s&b ammo again)
The SMLE was overall a better rifle. It was more ergonomic, with the bolt handle located immediately over the trigger. The bolt handle was also turned down, allowing the firer to operate the bolt without their hand coming into their field of view and taking their eye off of the target.
The infinite debate, Gewehr 98 or Enfield MK3. I personally prefer the Gewehr 98, it looks very cool, and classy. The Enfield is way more utilitarian and heavy. The over-trigger sight may be infinitely more practical, you gotta admit, the bolt action in the Gewehr is overall sexier. Truly Paul Mauser's greatest achievement.
Depends on who you ask, and who you are. Honestly SMLE, Mouser, and 1903 Springfield were all good. Which one is best depends more on a shooter than anything else. Reliability, accuracy, power, etc.. were for all practical purposes the same.
No the smle is a 10 shot. The smle cocks when you close the bolt it's faster. Is the mauser better made, better quality,a guy could make a good argument for that.
The Mauser 98 service rifle is beautiful and has a strong front locking action that can be readily rechambered for a wide range of rimless hunting rounds like the 9.3x62mm big game round, but was a second-rate service rifle. The simpler and more robust Mosin-Nagant (pronounced ‘Mo-seen Na-gon’) - which was affectionately called the “Mosinka” by Russian soldiers - is a much better service rifle thanks in large part to its quick release magazine floorplate that allows quick and easy cleaning if dust, sand, dirt or mud gets into the action without the use of tools. Even better is the Lee-Enfield service rifle which had a rear locking action that was far easier to clean if dust, sand, dirt or mud got into the locking lug recesses, and uses easily cleaned quick detachable 10 round magazine (double the capacity of the 98 and Mosinka which use non-detachable magazines). You can also single load a round directly into the chamber of the Mosinka and Lee-Enfield if something went wrong with the magazine without a problem, but try doing so with the 98 and you will likely break the extractor. The best Mauser type rifle is the contemporary CRF Winchester Model 70 which has a quick release magazine floorplate, a coned breech, an easy to use 3-positon side-swing safety that facilitates the use of a low mounted telescopic sight, and a bevelled extractor that allows you to single load a round directly into the chamber without breaking the extractor. That said, if I had to grab one of these rifles for use in any conditions I would grab a Lee-Enfield (No. 5 “Jungle Carbine”), but would favor a Mosinka (M38 Carbine) if I wanted the most rugged rifle; though the M70 is arguably better for use against dangerous game thanks to its CRF action (better feed reliability) and a safety that is much easier to use than those used by the 98 and the Mosinka (if not the Lee-Enfield which has an excellent safety). If debris gets into the front locking lugs recesses of the 98, Mosinka or M70 you will want a toothbrush and a water canteen to clean it out. Lee-Enfield rifles in good condition are no longer readily available but Mosinkas are. The Molot KO-91/30 M hunting rifle is essentially a refurbished Mosin-Nagant M91/30 service rifle with a shorter barrel, a turned down bolt handle to facilitate the use of telescopic sights, and a quick detach side mount like that those fitted to AK-47 assault rifles.
Mister, why you aren't on nationwide television is beyond me. I used to foolishly think l knew a lot about firearms before l started watching - and became addicted to - your video's. You are extremely knowledgable and your video's hold my interest throughout your presentation. Outstanding work, sir!
Thanks!
Another yea vote.
Yes, I agree. it's a pleasure to listen to someone who has such a thorough grasp of his subject.
Gun Jesus could talk about just anything and ill watch it
It's pretty obvious why gun TV isn't widespread. Cuz guns are bad right?
Ain't going to lie, the Germans made some nice looking bolt action rifles.
Tiles Murphy Oh snap! Imma need some examples!
Gun Porn. And the Gewehr 98 is a recognizable pornstar. 😏
Just look at anything made between late '44 to the end of WW2. Any of the last ditch rifles, made for the Volksturm.
The VG 2 actually looks kind of bad ass though
bolt actions? MG-15, MG-38, MG-42, FG-42, MP40, MP-38, STG-44, P-38, luger. All are beautiful.
"then Hans jumped out his fox hole and made a 360, no scope, headshot at 2000 meters..."
It is very optimistic to have your standard sights go out to 2 km tbh xD.
@@BytinMcHawk sit down
@@mojolotz These weapons were designed at the turn of the century (late 19th century). The Napoleonic wars were not too long ago, and in fact right up through WW1, massed volley fire remained a standard infantry tactic. The sight was just to ensure your gun was pointed in the correct general direction and area, rather than to aim the gun at individual targets. That's why rifles continued to use such long-range, full power rounds even though infantry combat had (especially by WW2) evolved so as to take place largely within 100-300m, rather than 1-3km...
@@mojolotz. I believe the idea was for volley fire for suppression. You just had to get close enough.
Can you believe that and mtn dew helped win the war
"You though this was modern, the Germans had this a century ago"
As usual.....
Fun fact: You will find the exact same thing on the rear-end of an MG 42 sling (and consequently on the MG3). Although the forward hook is done as a karabiner for more secure fastening at the two different hook-spots beneath the barrel.
Just wait for 2039 :)
Kyle! Give us the location of your secret moonbase!
The Stoned Videogame Nerd even the Galactic Empire outfitted the Stormtroopers with MG34 's .!
;D
Pretty sweet little story, my dad found the stock of one of these in an old apple bin when I was a kid. Through shear luck we held onto it all these years, now that I'm old enough (and a big enough gun nut) to understand what I've got, I plan on rebuilding the rifle piece by piece.
How is the rifle going? I have been working on a mauser 1893 for a few years, parts for the old rifles are getting kinda hard to find.
@@fieryfive0127 Going to shit sadly. It's a weird rifle because some parts are easy to find but others are a nightmare. So I didn't want to risk putting money in if I can't complete it.
@@justinmorgan4568 What i am trying to find is a sporterized gun with a full length barrel, then you just need to find some of the more common parts
whats about finding a gunsmith willing to rebuild these parts
@@dieser4377 Possibly. At the moment I just don't have money for it. I can see this becoming a very expensive project haha.
I actually love the breakdowns of the more common weapons. Nobody does this better than Forgotten Weapons!
funfact: "Spitzer" in German just means "more pointy"
and also "a peaking one"
It also means "pencil sharpener".
@@catavar9921 no, that's an Anspitzer
@@eriktransformer Very true. I just love these discussions in the youtube comment section :-)
Ja ja...
Every nation changed from a round nose to a pointed nose
Italy: "cries in carcanno"
Renato Ernesto isn't it carcano? Wow, I don't even know the rifles of my own country
@@antaridae yeah. He spelled it wrong lol
@Александр Субботин shut up stupid bot
Austria-hungary: doesn’t care in m95
Japan: "cries in arisaka"
the sound of this bolt action is amazing you can hear the craftsmanship
they sold this thing plus 5 other guns for $2000? i gotta get to these auctions man
Came here to say this! Somebody got a great deal.
ONE GUN FOR $2000.00 OR ALL 5 GOR $2000.00?
@Rad Baeron THAT'S A SMOKIN DEAL, THAT'S WHAT I GOT MINE FOR FROM A LOCAL GUN STORE A MONTH AGO, ALL MATCHING MINT BORE!! GOT LUCKY RAN INTO A COLLECTION A MOM WAS SELLING THAT HER SON HAD. CAPS LOCK IS THE NEW WAVE BUDD.😉👉
Hey Sam
Stop typing in CAP lock
I've seen G98 for usually between 300 and 500
I got mine for 3
@@kyleh3615 👍TNX
A beautiful piece of superbly engineered art, the Mauser bolt action! They are part art, part historical relic and a wonderful firearm!
I got one of these from my grandfather after he passed it's a beautiful rifle. also got several other mauser types like a K98 made in 1917. Pretty awesome and accurate guns.
oh a bolt-action Spandau...
I will take this to the logical extreme. *_PUMP ACTION AR15_*
F U L L A U T O F L I N T L O C K
So this rifle can fill in for a MG34?
semi-fully automatic weapon
dat noob it is fully semiautomatic
Love the sights of WWI era rifles. As if anybody is able to aim beyond 800 Meters with bare eye.
Haramasch Abrasir as if anyone should
Haramasch Abrasir it was meant for volley fire, an entire company could aim high and create a barrage of bullets
It goes up to 2 km.
Thats optimism
Simo Häyhä
@@dog209 please, hold Simo's beer
Haha, when I saw the proof marks I thought: "funny, these must be a Japanese or Chinese production batch" I am german, so not complely unfamiliar with the old lettering lol.
Good to see it wasn't just me.
Thanks Ian, you always make very informative and brilliantly narrated videos. I really enjoy them!
$1,840 with 5 other rifles is such a steal
Depends on what the other 5 were
I paid 300 for my 1918 production and my friends who also have them paud similar prices
This 400m meter zero thing isn't quite as massively huge an issue as going clear over someones head(unless you aimed at their head) it could hit about 10 inches higher in the worst case scenario. An 8mm mauser is much flatter shooting than for instance the 7.62x39 out of an akm and its sighting system had a 300m "battle zero" setting which would pretty much hit any standing target from 100-300m, standard soviet doctrine at the time was to aim for the guy's belt buckle and you would be assured to hit the torso somewhere.
If it's a guy just peeking over the top of a trench, then shooting 10 inches high is a big deal.
In a trench you'd count yourself lucky if you had just enough of the Enemies Helmet to kill him
I beg to differ, as I have encountered some crazy high shooting early Milsurps in my life...
So, they gave the soldiers weapon that with proper aiming would not hit the target ?
@@Robert...Schrey Check his video on the Long Lee for another example.
Thanks for all your good work. You are the gold standard of weapon history. Your videos are useful research information.
Forgotten or not, doesn't matter. Forgotten Weapons was and will remain your unique theme Ian, but now I want to see your takeaway of every gun, bazooka, and slingshot that turns your fancy. Keep up the awesome work.
I really love German made weapons that were made from 1880-1950.
Same
Don’t forget the widespread G3 and iconic MP5. It may not be as prevalent as it used to be due to the pacification of Germany and its wartime industry, but german engineering lives on
@@lebendigesgespenst7669 Things have really changed, though. The newer guns don't have the same charm as the old ones.
Well technically Mauser 1871, grandparent to this rifle and was a standard issue as a sniper until 1960 in germany so this rifle was used for a good 80 to 89 years.^^
More you know, good line and legacy for a family to say the least, and as a standard untill military rifle for military service was actually till 1970 to 1972 in south Africa smaller countrys as well as south America and oceanic countrys so the Muaser rifle might be arguably the longest serving rifle with the least amount of change to it over all.
Rifle used as a standard, Mauser:
100 to 89 years, longest rifle service compared to the brown bass Enfield rifle which was 110 to 105 years. For English use.
Meant to say manufacturer without much change.
Question for Ian:
have you ever bid on one of the weapons you introduced in this channel?
Yes, I do occasionally.
+Forgotten Weapons successful in any? If so which video?
+scroggsie1 Some show up on inrange
@@russellweber3466 go away
@@timmebruer5205 For ever.
That's a beautiful example of this rifle.
Especially for an early prewar one.
These videos bring such relaxation and joy after a long day. Thank you Ian.
The Mauser 98's manufactured by Husqvarna of Sweden are excellent hunting rifles for winter treetop bird hunting @ up to 400m and are often rebuilt into modern composite stocks with bipod mount.
What a horrible thing to do to a beautiful piece of history
YT channels like this are what I've been missing since the History Channel went to shit in the 00s. and videos like this and The Great War channel are much, much better than peak History Channel. thank you for all of the wonderful videos!
Excellent! Thank you for the video. It helps those of us with WWII K98's understand them better.
This is my dream rifle, can't wait to get some money to buy one!
Ian this is another fine video. I Love and respect your work.
I research old weapons and kinda document them in my 'journals of sorts' but I don't have access to the firearms you show Us all here.
I think you must be working crazy hours to bring all of this to the viewers. You are one of the absolute best on weapons and I truly enjoy your videos on the off the wall BS, that folks made to peddle off on American buyers. They are the modern 'Snake-oil' salesmans and it is You who helps the average individual from wasting their time and money on the junk they have to peddle! Thank You and I pray you Well!
I just wanted to clarify something about the G98 rifle, here. I think that you may have accidentally confused veiwers about.
Like you said, back in the day, ruptured cartridges were more common and always a bad thing, especially with smokeless powder. The G98 protected the shooter very well.
In the video, you mentioned that the slots in the bottom of the bolt vented a potential gas issue down but it really didn't. The vents were in the bottom of the bolt, so when the bolt rotated 90* right into lock-up/firing/exploding cases mode, they were pointed to the left. The ejector slot, firing pin hole and any seepage would direct this blast thru those slots into the solid slot of the receivers left bolt lug slot. This could vent rearward and exit out of the big relief on the left of the receiver in front of the receiver bridge. The bolts shroud, carrying the safety pretty well sealed this from the shooter's face, with this Avenue of escape!
I hope this helps the veiwers understand this better.
Again, Thank You for Your Excellent Work. Great Video!
Bolt action rifles don't have barrel heating and expansion issues because of a painstakingly slow rate of fire. Semi-automatic weapons also might not suffer to the same degree from heating barrels, as automatic weapons do.
Barrel heating and expansion, though, is a major problem in AKM/AK74 and M16, etc.
Some of the earlier machine guns, like the Maxim, used water cooled barrels, but those made them too heavy, so, now, they're all air-cooled, but come with multiple barrels, which you have to swap whenever they heat up, usually after 400 to 3000 rounds of sustained fire, depending on how long the non-firing intervals are.
One could also use liquid nitrogen for cooling, but that would be another layer of complexity and another point for potential failure and servicing.
If the barrel expands with heat, the gases will leak(to slow the propulsion) and even the bullet will lose the initial angle of its trajectory, so rifling helps keep the bullet on its axes through the barrel.
Rifling also makes the bullet spin for greater in-flight stability against wind, for greater energy, and also for greater penetrative power.
Unless the barrel expands a little to dissipate some of the heat, it could heat the bullet to a point whereby the bullet would lose shape even though heat smaller than the melting point would help the bullet in flight by creating a low pressure around it.
The barrel has to transfer heat, via convection, to the ambient environment, but cuts could make the weapon clog up with dirt.
The barrel has to also lose some heat, via conduction, to the slide and the rail, but if both expand disproportionately, they'll jam. The rail and the casing have to lose heat, via convection, to avoid transferring too much to the chamber, the magazine, and the handgrip.
You can't have smaller automatic weapons with powerful cartridges, because the weight of the gun, the muzzle brake, the counteracting cylinder and/or weight, and shock absorbent materials would either prove insufficient or add too much bulk and complexity or frailty; when complexity malfunctions, it is very tedious to fix it. Frailty needs frequent maintenance.
On the contrary, you also can't have light, long-range weapons with smaller cartridges.
Except for rocket propelled munitions(which have no recoil because the mass of gases escaping at the back counteracts the forward propelled mass of the munition), all chambered weapons would have a recoil proportionate to the size of the propellant.
These days small arms, tanks and even artillery have turned inconsequential to modern armies, which rely primarily on air power and either smart/non-smart and shoulder-fired single-barrel or vehicle- mounted multi-barrel rockets.
SMGs, like the Ppsh-41(75 round capacity) or MP5, are still relevant in close quarter combat because they deliver a portable rate of fire power equal to that of a machine gun.
Portable grenade launchers and shotguns are also relevant in close quarter combat because of the spread or broad destructive power.
Pistols can be useful in enclosed spaces, where police and special forces experience most of their combat.
Long range rifles are still useful for sniping.
Assault rifles bridging the gap between the SMGs and sniping rifles and long-range munitions are still required, though, rarely used, unless these come with collapsible butts.
Even tanks and howitzers/guns are obsolescent on the modern battlefield.
Tanks and howitzers/guns have very large profiles/silhouettes that make them visible from a long distance. These are also very noisy.
Seismic, thermal, acoustic, EM, and image-recognition sensors can pinpoint these from a very long distance.
Satellites and surveillance aircraft and drones can easily spot these from the skies.
Projectile tracking radars can pinpoint them, the minute they fire even a single round, sensors.
They have a very low rate of fire, and are very slow to aim and move, so these don't stand a chance against combat aircraft(almost unlimited range, exceptional evasive maneuverability and speed, and multiple simultaneous engagement capacity from stand-off distances) attack helicopters, drones or even shoulder-fired guided or unguided munitions.
Ground forces and small arms are only required if you can't make an enemy surrender with overwhelming air power or flatten out the entire place with air- or missile-delivered conventional or nuclear weapons, and have to physically hunt the enemy in a densely populated civilian area.
5 year wait for this video; worth it.
Honestly I would have to say that based on the amount of confusion I've seen people display with regards to the Mauser "98" series of rifles, that anything which isn't a mid-late WWII production still easily counts as "forgotten" in some ways.
I have a Gew98 made by schilling, dated 1916, serial # 4898 with a symbol that resembles a capital A under it. fun to shoot and still very accurate.
If only all things are explained well like this.. I really like how specific Ian can be and same time interesting!! And this is your every video..
Greetings from Finland
Excellent video! A few things, this is a particularly interesting 1905 Spandau. If you look at the bayonet lug, you will notice that the it's the early unrelieved style. Later ones will be machined down at the 'H' part of the band. 1905 is fairly late for this feature to as most were later style by this time. Most likely a left over part, left over 200M sight bases do appear randomly during the 1905-06 time frame especially at the state arsenals. In regard to the finish, at the end of 1917 a rust blued finish with white bolt was ordered. This began to appear in the August 1918 time frame. It is possible to find 1918 dated gew 98s from most of the producers that maintained production that late with rust blued receivers, such guns are very rare and demand a premium. I have seen a half dozen or so myself. In addition to normal production with these rifles you have a lot of off standard production. Not only Sterngewehrs produced by the state arsenals, but also 'H' Spandaus produced at the Hanover Depot in a non-factory setting. Acceptance patterns show this, these rifles will only have the first of the three proofs on the right side of the receiver, most are made from subcontracted receivers. Saxon Sterngewehrs were produced at a ammunition plant in Dresden. Don't quote me as I don't remember exactly but German rifles didn't roll over serial numbers until around 1905. They just kept going, which for years mislead information about how many of these early guns were actually made. I can tell you about this particular rifle that the bolt is not factory matching. It could have been renumbered in a wartime rework. If you look at the firing proof on the underside of the bolt root you will see rearing lion. This is the Amberg arsenal's firing proof. Were there any numbers on the buttplate that would indicate a wartime rework? Re-numbered bolts from this era during the war are very common I have owned a bunch with this feature.
My rifle is marked Berlin 1915 and is exactly like the gun shown in every way , except the added hole through the stock for tool . It seems the manufacture or assembly at Berlin was somewhat behind time .
Finally bought one I've been looking at for 6 months thus past Saturday. Very happy to have the old G98 in my collection.
Beautiful specimen. I own a Suhl made 8mm dated 1916...
i really hate how youtube moved the comments im so used to going all the way down that i do it on instinct UGH love the video btw
Fun Fact: The manual for Castle Wolfenstein (AKA the original Wolfenstein game from 1981) describes the gun that the player uses as a "Mauser M-98 pistol fully loaded with ten bullets". Ironically, no rifles are actually seen or used anywhere in the game.
T he broomhandle mauser pistol is the basis for the game not the rifle!
I played it on the Atari 800 in about 1986, never could beat it but I did get all the way to the final room full of guys at he table.
@@justforever96 I just told you exactly what it said in the manual. I am sure it was supposed to be the C96 though.
Nice workmanship and engineering design you couldn’t expect less from the Germans
Awesome vid! Would love to see a history/progression of Mausers
ਕੁੱਝ ਵੀ ਹੋਵੇ ਵੀਰੇ ਦੂਜੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵ ਯੁੱਧ ਦੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਜਬਰਦਸਤ ਅਸਲਾ ਤਾਂ ਜਰਮਨੀ ਕੋਲ ਹੀ ਸੀ ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਵੱਖਰੀ ਆ ਕਿ ਹਿਟਲਰ ਨੇ ਯਹੂਦੀਆਂ ਦੇ ਉਪਰ ਇੰਨੇ ਅਤਿਆਚਾਰ ਕੀਤੇ ਉਸ ਦਾ ਹੰਕਾਰ ਅਤੇ ਗਲਤ ਟਾਈਮ ਤੇ ਓਪਰੇਸ਼ਨ ਬਾਰ ਬਰੋਸਾ ਅਤੇ ਅਪਣੇ ਜਰਨੈਲਾਂ ਦੀ ਸਲਾਹ ਤੋਂ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਗਲਤ ਰਣਨੀਤੀ ਕਰਕੇ ਜਰਮਨੀ ਦੀ ਹਾਰ ਹੋਈ ਜੇ ਗੱਲ ਹਥਿਆਰਾਂ ਦੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਾਵੇ ਤਾਂ ਕਿਸੇ ਮੁਲਕ ਦੇ ਕੋਲ ਜਰਮਨੀ ਵਰਗੇ ਹਥਿਆਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਨ ਦੂਜੇ ਵਿਸ਼ਵ ਯੁੱਧ ਦੇ ਦਰਮਿਆਨ ਵੀਰੇ ਜੋ ਇਹ ਰਾਈਫਲ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਦਿਖਾ ਰਹੇ ਹੋ ਮੈਂ ਸੁਣਿਆਂ ਇਸ ਨਾਲ ਜਰਮਨ ਦੇ ਫੌਜੀ ਲੜਾਕੂ ਜਹਾਜ਼ ਵੀ ਲਾਹ ਲੈਂਦੇ ਸਨ ਕਹਿੰਦੇ ਇਸ ਮਾਰ ਬਹੁਤ ਦੂਰ ਤੱਕ ਹੈ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ ਲਈ ਧੰਨਵਾਦ ਜੀ
I thought this was de-monetised? If so, isn't it unfair (for Ian) that RUclips are still showing ads on this channel?
I intentionally watch the ads on some channels so they can get revenue, I’ll be pissed if that’s going to RUclips and not the creators.
@@briankosmicki611 Ian should have moved to watchnebula.org already, along with host other creators who also have presence there.
I have a sporter that someone built off of this action, and oh boy does it shoot. It’s one of two guns that I own that I’d never consider selling.
I'm Canadian and don't know much about gun but your helping me learn, great content you have here keep up the good work
Mauser 98 will never be forgotten as long as humans live on earth.
12:10 it says "LOL" In the butt stock lmao
ruslan mam
The human brain can see things that are not really there!
Those are random coincidental marks that merely resemble LOL.
ruslan mam
“You thought it was modern, the Germans had it 100 years ago”
@Reck Fredreck look closely
dude I love this dude. All of these guns Ive always wanted to know about. I learn something historical everytime
I so want one of these. Used by a pickelhauben wearing, fancily curled mustache German.
I have one...but my grandfather cut it down to hunting carbine size back in the 70s. Kind of a dick move. No bayonet, no long ass barrel. It's likely less accurate and the sights are not compatible with the barrel length but it's still beautiful.
@@LawlCam24 interesting.... I never thought about cutting down a rifle..
@@TomFromRUclips I'm not surprised. I could never cut down one of these beauties. They're nearly ceremonial in appearance. Now I've got an uncannily handsome looking standard hunting rifle. At least the sights are also aesthetically pleasing
Indeed my Kamarade...
@@TomFromRUclips Please don't, just don't, it will ruin the gun for anyone that comes after you.
Fascinating! Thank you for posting!
I had a 1917 all matching spandau. The thing would leave bruises on my shoulder about after two clips. This is a real mans rifle
Then youre holding it incorrectly
They weren't able to change the rear sight when they switched to the new ammo. One wonders why they didn't just install taller front sights to solve the problem. Admittedly, the markings on the rear sight would no longer correlate with real ranges, but you wouldn't have to aim ridiculously low at short ranges.
I'd guess, from my experience with similar calibers, that, with a 400 yd setting on the rifle, you would have to aim between the hips and knees to hit a man in the sternum at 100 yds.
Just a correction, Peru also used the lange vizier rear sight on their Mauser Model 1909 (which was otherwise identical to the Argentine 1909).
And also use the lange sigth in their 1891 mausers
I'm evaluating this for practical hunting. I have no interest in its historical value.
1- This uses the same 7.92x57mm cartridge with a longer barrel, so should have a longer range, a smaller recoil, and even a smaller flash than the Kar98(which is a carbine, or a shortened variant of this).
The Kar98, though, should be lighter and easier to aim if you're not resting it on anything.
The Kar98 should also be easier to move laterally in woods because it is shorter.
The sights set at minimum 400m is also a drawback for the G98, even though one would prefer to use long barrel rifles only at longer ranges, unless suprised by prey at shorter ranges.
The walls of the sight blocking peripheral vision are another drawback.
2- If the Kar98 has scopes specifically made for it, since a hunting rifle of the same specs is still in production in Germany, and still good at 1000 meters, then the Kar98 would be preferable.
3- The prices for the SVD63(Dragunov) have really shot up in my part of the world, so I have to choose between the 7.92x57mm G98, Kar 98, rhe 7.62x54R Mosin Nagant, the 7.7x56R Lee Enfield, or the 7.62x63mm M1 Garand.
I believe that within the 20 to 24inch barrel category, the M1 should be a better choice because of its semi-automatic fire and muzzle-brake/flash supressor.
The longer barrels would only be useful with scopes specifically made for those rifles.
0.308 H&K G3s, over here, are expensive and as heavy as the vintage weapons, even though the 0.308 has a very god ballistic trajectory over intermediate distances.
gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/
1000m isn't much. The foesight of the 0.303 covered a man at 1000 meters, so scopes should be good for deer.
Any thoughts?
As always excellent video Ian, thank you sir.In the video you state that the extractor will snap over case heads for single loading. Since I have never shot a Gew 98 I have to ask is this correct or a slip? I love 98 Mausers but the flat extractor face sometimes gives me fits when I forget to single load by inserting the round in the magazine. This feature once cost me a Vintage service rifle match when shooting my IDF K98.Stuck cartridge in chamber=too much time to clear.
Quick reminder: You don't aim at something at 400+ meters, you aim the direction of something at 400+ meters.
I have always and will always love German firearms! They do weapons right!
That`s why there are so many in almost every country of the world . They were all brought home as war souvenirs .
..I've got a Kar 98 that began life as a Gew 98 made in Spandau in 1916...amazing because it survived the Great WAR. The Weimar Reoublic, WWII and the worst enemy, Bubba...no import marks..
so all germans where aiming really low during to whole war? So let's say they'd spot head in the other trench, would they aim into the dirt under it to make a hit? Did I misunderstand this? It sounds super irritatiing to be a german soldier a hundred years ago.
yeah basically you'd have to aim at the dirt
Yes I have a G98, an Amberg 1918, and at 75-100 yards you have to aim pretty low.
indeed, that must have been annoying as hell
Emil Maxén well the Russians had the same problem with their guns
You ever heard of Kentucky windage?
I just bought an all matching Gew 98 Mauser from 1915 I am super excited. Thank you battlefield 1 for making this rifle live rent free in my head for years now. I am so happy to have one I will add it to the wall of the rest of my WW1 rifles and WW2 rifles. Side note I like to put the rifles that fought against each other side by side on my wall. Maybe one day I will over hear a distant insult from the other side.
Aren't more rounded nose bullets better (ballistic coefficient wise) at slower speeds?
If so, what is the speed at which a pointed bullet profile becomes more efficient?
Round is better subsonic, pointed is better supersonic. Pretty much all full rifle rounds post smokeless powder are supersonic except for oddballs made for suppression like the .300 blackout.
Also, round or flat noses are pretty much required for tube magazines for obvious reasons which is why lever action rounds like 30-30 have round/flat noses.
Quality and workmanship.
I have one of those too the best rifle I've ever had
A- I think the 7.92x57mm caliber is still very good for hunting and sniping.
But, even the 7.62x51mm and 7.62x39mm calibers are not very suitable for automatic fire from personal defense weapons because of uncontrollable recoil.
The sub-5mm cartridge isn't a novelty.
I've been studying encyclopedias, books, journals and magazines on national security, defense, and war for over 50 years, since the age of 9, and have practically used most of these weapons long before I earned my BS degree in engineering, and embarked on an executive career more than 34 years ago.
I first read about the 4.73x33mm HK G11 that fired caseless ammunition in 1978, 1979 or 1980.
I never got to use it because it never went into production.
It was a scoped, bull-pup design somewhat like the French FAMAS and the British SAR80.
It failed only because the logistics and use of careless ammunition was very complicated.
I still believe the 4.6/4.7mm calibre holds great promise for close quarter combat.
The German Kurz was 7.92x33mm, and it was still practical for controlled automatic fire.
The German 7.63x25mm was controllable even with short barrel lengths.
The German 4.73x33mm with. 21 inch barrel was good even at assault ranges of 300 to 400m.
I believe anything under 5.8mm with a case length of 33mm should be good for controlled fire even with short barrel lengths and even good at assault ranges of around 300 to 400 meters.
For close quarter combat, I think magazine capacity of 75 to 90 rounds, like the PPsh-41, would be preferable.
For sniping, barrel lengths of 24 to 30 inches do help with larger ammo.
Hybrid assault/close quarter combat rifles like the AK74/M-16 carbine have barrel lengths of around 14.5 to 15.5 inches.
I, personally, would want a bullpup with a 21inch barrel.
For close quarter combat, 7 to 10 inch barrels can be easily used even in enclosed spaces.
With a bullpup design, it might be easier to even use a 10 to 16 inch barrel in enclosed spaces.
A pistol with 6 to 7 inch barrel might be handy in a vehicle, giving one a range of around 100m.
Anything over 4.4 inches might be too inconvenient for concealed carry.
B- Every caliber would have diminishing returns in range, once the optimal barrel length for that particular caliber is exceeded.
1- The 9x19mm MP5 delivers a muzzle velocity of 400 m/S with an 8.9 inch barrel at an effective range of 200m.
9X19mm parabellum doesn't exceed an MV of 400 m/s regardless of barrel length because of the smaller cartridge/propellant.
2- The 4.6x30 mm MP7 delivers an MV of 735 m/s with only a 7 inch barrel to penetrate body armor at 200m.
It also delivers a controlled rate of fire of 950 rounds/minute.
A longer barrel length could help extend the range, considering the high propellant to bullet-weight ratio.
3- The 5.7x28mm FN P90 delivers an MV of 715 m/s with 10 to 16 inch barrels for an effective range of 200m and a maximum range of 1.8 KM.
It does so with a breathtaking rate of fire of 1100 rounds/minute.
Down-calibering helps tremendously with controlled automatic fire.
It would take precious seconds to grab and point an FN P90, so I prefer HK MP designs.
4- Thinner bullets have a greater penetrative power. The Mauser 7.63x25mm has a greater penetrative power than the Luger 9x19mm parabellum. A longer bullet could also have the same or greater lethality because the imbalanced mass would tumble on impact, but in practical use larger bullets have greater stopping power to paralyze the nervous system because of a larger instantaneous impact energy.
3:58 Hi, don't think you're going to see this, but just to let you know, Ian, it's pronounced lah-n-geh vih-zee-ehr, not lah-n-j vi-zeer, sorry for the pedanticism
US troops felt the sting of the 98 Mauser during the Spanish-American War as they looked questioningly at their own inferior Kragg-Jorgensen rifles. The 1903 Springfield was a result of this experience and pretty much a copy of the 98.
Had a 1916 G98. It was beautiful, sold it, I was dumb.
I have an Amberg (Imperial armoury) made in 1918 production G98
Very comfortable rifle to shoot
I have a Mauser obendorf 1918 but it has a Turkish crescent
Battlefield One will seriously rape this weapon, by turning trench warfare to a yolo running spray and spray warfare. It'll be full of machine gun :(
I do hope they remember the chauchat tho
Yes, indeed. It will be the unique way to see it full auto without a failure :D
I'll stick to playing Verdun, thank you very much.
+tuck234 hopefully they use bf4 balancing. they already perfected it model wise and i hope they dont deviate to a new system thats fucks everyone over
Austin pierce I'd be more interested in a FPS that takes realism more seriously, with weapon jams, overheating, heavier weapons being harder to handle than light ones. What's the point of having an FPS that's set in an earlier war just to have it play just like every other military FPS?
"...definitely not a forgotten weapon"
But probably one that many people wish they could forget!!!
Best is perhaps debatable, but it might take the cake for most-rechambered - the one area where the Lee-Enfield falls down, due to the inadvisability of using the Lee action (especially the SMLE) for high pressure cartridges.
Can do a review on that other great First World War German rifle, namely the GOO 98? Iraqveteran8888 did one. It's like similar to the Gew 98, but different... :D
I have a beauty from 1917. First shot it over iron sites at 100 yards. 3 shots within 3 inches! Fantastic gun, and my favorite shooter!
Ian, is there a big spike in WW1 videos now that Battlefield 1 is released?
World War 1 took place a hundred years ago
@@richardcutts196 So?
Great video. Thanks for the video. Lots of great information.
I have a Danzig 1917 Gew98 with all matching serial numbers, save for the magazine follower, of all things. I've been wanting to take it out and shoot it so badly but I have had my doubts, seeing as how it is nearly 100 years old. The only issues I've seen with the rifle are purely cosmetic, though. I've stripped it down and cleaned it fully and the issues with it are a rusty butt plate, rust on the face of the trigger, and some pitting on the side of the bolt under the extractor. There is no rust or grit within the action itself and the bolt face, firing pin, and rifling are flawless. In your opinion and experience, do you think my rifle would be safe to fire using modern 8mm?
They are perfectly safe, pending your rifle doesn't have any issues. I have 13 Gew 98s and shoot them regularly.
I have a Danzig 1904 and have shot it with PPU ammo i bought from Cabelas. The only problem wrong with mine was my stock split where some previous owner "Sporterized" it. Trying to get a new stock for the gun.
This sounds like a example you see before you read about somebody's face getting wrecked.get somebody that knows what there doing to inspect your rifle best free advice your gonna get.
I have a 1936 sauer and sohn k98, and I shoot it often. What is important is using good, hi quality ammo. No steel case, no old milsurp. The only issue is after about 50 rounds, the barrel gets very hot, expands, and puts stress on the wood stock and barrel
Bands. It is an old rifle and can’t be handled roughly or excessive rounds fired. Just be aware of this and I don’t think you should have any problems.
Better figure out the difference between the .318" and .323" diameter ammo, FIRST! Your rifle is chambered(from the German arsenal, anyhow) for .318 ammo.
This is only useful for hunting.
By WWII, air power was so prevalent that most man-to-man engagements took place at very close range, hence the Germans invented the 7.92x33mm Stg 44, the Russians came up with the 7.62x25 PPsh-41(after their defeat, primarily, to a Finnish SMG), and the Americans with the M3.
An American General, Hal, deemed the PPsh-41 the miracle weapon of the Korean war.
7.62x39mm AK47 outperformed the American M-16 only because it was smaller, even though the 5.56x45 M-16 was better in every respect.
The AK47 still couldn't be easily controlled on auto, so they down-calibred to the 5.45x39mm AK-74.
As far as hunting is concerned, the longer/larger the cartridge, the narrower and not too light the bullet(the heavier the bullet, rhe greater the energy, and the lesser the trajectory influenced by wind, provided the cross-sectional area isn't too large to induce a large drag, and provided the recoil of the propellant can be offset via other means), the longer the range.
Good optics, of course, make the package complete.
The Germans had the best technology
My favorite rifle of both wars!
Almost managed to type 'That isn't a forgotten weapon, et me gerd unsubscreebed!!!!!' but you beat me to it, Ian,
Back in the late 70's when I was a Marine Sgt, I had two rifles I bought at Woolworth's in San Diego. I had a K91 Argentine Mauser in 7.92mm, complete with a huge bayonet, and a K95 Steyr
Bought my 8mm at woolworths as well in the late 70's $59.95. I still have it and am about to gift it my soldier son
Is the Gewehr 98 an early version of Kar98k?
Yes.
Sanesi it was to make the gun more soldier friendly
Yup, it is essentially, the Karbiner's predecessor
@Forgotten Weapons
Really? I thought it was the Karabiner 98AZ that was an early version the Karabiner 98k.
I want to own both of these rifles
Excellent video ,,,thanks for your efforts ,the Gewehr 98 is a phenomenal weapon !
My first rifle was a gew 98, unfortunately the previous owner sporterized it, I do plan to return it to its former glory, it didn't serve two world wars to have its dignity stripped from it
One of the best looking rifles just like their uniforms.
It's a Nazi weapon
@ghgg so you're telling me the wehrmacht didn't use the g98? It can be frow 1898 and still be a Nazi weapon.
Damn. If that sight is only used by Germans that means my Gewehr 98 is probably Turkish
Fishbait 98 probably issued to Turkish soldiers who made their own modifications to the rifle.
Turkish Mausers are fairly hot collectors items man, take good care of that Mauser!
I can tell you i was glad 2 weeks ago that they put those safety features on the k98. The S&B crap primer was pierced by the firing pin and my face was saved by that gas shield. Thank you Mauser (and i'll never buy s&b ammo again)
The SMLE was overall a better rifle. It was more ergonomic, with the bolt handle located immediately over the trigger. The bolt handle was also turned down, allowing the firer to operate the bolt without their hand coming into their field of view and taking their eye off of the target.
The infinite debate, Gewehr 98 or Enfield MK3. I personally prefer the Gewehr 98, it looks very cool, and classy. The Enfield is way more utilitarian and heavy. The over-trigger sight may be infinitely more practical, you gotta admit, the bolt action in the Gewehr is overall sexier. Truly Paul Mauser's greatest achievement.
We have three of them in our Armoury in our Gun Club here in Svendborg,Denmark.Beautiful rifle,long and heavy but what a beauty.
'A whole bunch of decades' is that an official historical term?
yes
Of course
Small button behind the gas shield press it on a hard surface and spin off the back to inspect the mainspring or clean. Very nice design.
At 11:37 see that LOL????
SIMSA75
Mentioned months ago lol
Looks more like _La_ to me.
A complete history of the Mauser rifle might be a good video idea. Like you did for the 1911, Winchester lever guns etc.
better than smle?
eatthisvr6 yes
Depends on who you ask, and who you are. Honestly SMLE, Mouser, and 1903 Springfield were all good. Which one is best depends more on a shooter than anything else. Reliability, accuracy, power, etc.. were for all practical purposes the same.
No the smle is a 10 shot. The smle cocks when you close the bolt it's faster. Is the mauser better made, better quality,a guy could make a good argument for that.
A good SMLE is quite a nice rifle, for what that's worth.
The Mauser 98 service rifle is beautiful and has a strong front locking action that can be readily rechambered for a wide range of rimless hunting rounds like the 9.3x62mm big game round, but was a second-rate service rifle. The simpler and more robust Mosin-Nagant (pronounced ‘Mo-seen Na-gon’) - which was affectionately called the “Mosinka” by Russian soldiers - is a much better service rifle thanks in large part to its quick release magazine floorplate that allows quick and easy cleaning if dust, sand, dirt or mud gets into the action without the use of tools. Even better is the Lee-Enfield service rifle which had a rear locking action that was far easier to clean if dust, sand, dirt or mud got into the locking lug recesses, and uses easily cleaned quick detachable 10 round magazine (double the capacity of the 98 and Mosinka which use non-detachable magazines). You can also single load a round directly into the chamber of the Mosinka and Lee-Enfield if something went wrong with the magazine without a problem, but try doing so with the 98 and you will likely break the extractor. The best Mauser type rifle is the contemporary CRF Winchester Model 70 which has a quick release magazine floorplate, a coned breech, an easy to use 3-positon side-swing safety that facilitates the use of a low mounted telescopic sight, and a bevelled extractor that allows you to single load a round directly into the chamber without breaking the extractor. That said, if I had to grab one of these rifles for use in any conditions I would grab a Lee-Enfield (No. 5 “Jungle Carbine”), but would favor a Mosinka (M38 Carbine) if I wanted the most rugged rifle; though the M70 is arguably better for use against dangerous game thanks to its CRF action (better feed reliability) and a safety that is much easier to use than those used by the 98 and the Mosinka (if not the Lee-Enfield which has an excellent safety). If debris gets into the front locking lugs recesses of the 98, Mosinka or M70 you will want a toothbrush and a water canteen to clean it out. Lee-Enfield rifles in good condition are no longer readily available but Mosinkas are. The Molot KO-91/30 M hunting rifle is essentially a refurbished Mosin-Nagant M91/30 service rifle with a shorter barrel, a turned down bolt handle to facilitate the use of telescopic sights, and a quick detach side mount like that those fitted to AK-47 assault rifles.
It woud be realy great for us eurpean viewers, when you use the US measure system to show us the numbers in the metric system.
Great video though :)
This is the best looking bolt-action rifle ever. I'm gonna buy one
, someday
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Great video, especially looking details of construction
Hmm i wonder how many kiddies are thinking this channel started because of BF1
κοlεя κοмβμςнα there's this thing called dates
I actually just picked up a 1903 Swedish Mauser and I love it