In Australia the Victorian government made a line raised above the ground like this to get rid of level crossings and it was very controversial because people were worried about the way it would look. Do Japanese people think this style of railway is ugly or are they used to this type of infrastructure?
Mr.TRAINing the world 【Google Japanese-English translation】 Hi! I'm Oldman Hankyu. I worked for this railroad. This is my old nest. 😊 I am using a translator, so please forgive me for strange English. 😅 Well, thank you for watching this video from a distant country. And thank you for your question. I will answer briefly. Railroad viaducts certainly look bad, but given the national situation in Japan, it can't be helped.へ(´ω`)へ There is a big city in a small land, and people live there in a concentrated manner. The houses are built right next to the railroad site. There are places where that is not the case. However, there are great benefits to making the railway three-dimensional. Because there are no railroad crossings and traffic is not obstructed there. So, the railroad company chooses between underground railroad tracks and elevated railroad tracks, but if a new railroad track is laid in another place, it is an underground railroad track, but in the example of this video, the railroad company wanted to lay the railroad track in the same place. It looks bad, but the company adopted an elevated railroad. Besides, there are two big rivers nearby, so I don't want the tunnel to be submerged by the flood. Elevated railroad tracks are used in other areas of the railway as well as in other lines, but there is also an old underground railroad track that was built in the 1930s on Kyoto's main street "Shijo-dori" and then extended. Because, if an elevated railway runs in the middle of that "Kyoto", it will look bad and will have a bad effect on the cityscape. 😱 For that reason, railway companies use different construction methods, elevated railways or underground railroads. My answer to your question looks like this. If you still have any questions about this railway company or other railways in Japan, please leave a comment. If you notice, I will reply as far as I know. Thank you for reading the long text. Please pay attention to Coronavirus! When the turmoil is over, please come visit us in Japan. Goodbye.Sayonara 🤗
@@Midori-Clover Thank you for the very detailed reply and yes the English was good thank you. Yes I can see how space is a problem in Japan and how this 3D viaduct solves the problems of level crossings. In Australia we are not used to large infrastructure like this one for Hankyu railway. I lived in Nara city back in 2003 and I loved the railway system in Japan. I mainly used Kintetsu and JR. Yes I hope to come back and visit the Kansai area again when this Coronavirus has finished! Please come to Australia some time and see our railways!
@@trainingtheworld5093 さん Oh! Thank you for your prompt reply. Did you live in Nara until 2003! It's very coincidental. I also live near JR Nara Station in Nara City. It seems that you are familiar with the situation in Japan and Kansai. You also know the Kintetsu Railway. I'm not familiar with the railway situation in your country, Australia, but since railroad crossings in urban areas hindered road traffic and became a problem, did you try to solve the problem by constructing an elevated railway? Was the viaduct design a problem rather than cool?😅 Also, as for local news in Nara, recently, Nara Prefecture announced a plan to convert the Kintetsu Railway track into a subway and relocate it under the road on the south side of "Heijo Palace Remains Park" that you know. Where does that money come from⁉︎😱 The "Yamato-Saidaiji" station will definitely be affected by the underground, so it will be difficult to understand what the plan will look like when the underground railroad, the elevated railway, and the garage of the train are mixed‼︎😅 In this video, various architectural plans are uploaded, including the Kintetsu Railway plan, so please have a look if you like. Coincidentally, I am very happy that you know Nara and Kansai. I would like to know about Australian railways in another video.😊 Please be fine ❣️
In Japan, there is such a term "unopened railroad crossing". This does not mean a "malfunctioned crossing", it refers to crossings that rarely open because of too many trains flow. A famous example is "Shinagawa No.1 crossing" on the Keikyu-Line. It happens almost daily. ruclips.net/video/O7v8hTLPSec/видео.html And there is a similar problem at the place in this video, it is a serious problem for the road users and the residents in the area. In the worst case, it will open only few minutes in an hour. Of course, ambulances and other emergency vehicles also have to wait. There is no afford to argue about the landscape. The decision on whether or not to elevate the railway is based on whether or not the construction is physically possible.
Mr.@@popozz Hi ❣️ You commented for the first time. I'm sorry I was late to notice. I'm Oldman Hankyu. A long time ago, I worked for the railroad shown in this video. I'm using a translator, so it may be strange English, but please forgive me. ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー I watched the video you sent me. This railway is the "Keikyu Electric Railway" in Tokyo, Japan. In addition, the railroad crossing in the video is near Shinagawa Station, next to the JR Tokaido Line, Yamanote Line, Keihin Tohoku Line, and the iron bridge that crosses the Tokaido Shinkansen. I confirmed the location from the sky above the site. Of course, it's not an airplane. Google map. 😅 After reading your comment, I commend you for your insight. Your observations are accurate and 100% sure.😊 Why are you so familiar with Japan? Maybe you are a resident of Tokyo, Japan? Oh ... the story flew somewhere, so let's get it back. From what I observe, this railroad is a powerful railroad that connects Yokohama and Tokyo. And many trains transport commuters on weekday mornings and evenings. This is because all the railroads near the big cities in Japan play the same role. However, it has changed a little in Coronavirus. This railroad crossing is close to Shinagawa Station, and while the preceding train bound for Tokyo City is stopped on the platform, the train behind it will be put on standby at the traffic light in front of the station. And I predict that another train that follows the waiting train will also be waiting in front of the railroad crossing. On the other hand, trains heading for Yokohama safely pass through curves with a small radius before and after the JR crossing iron bridge, so it seems that the passing speed is limited. I think it's about 40-50km / h. For the above reasons, the road will be blocked for a long time at the railroad crossing. In order to solve this, we would like to make the railroad tracks viaducts, but construction while operating is very difficult. If I were a planner, I would build a road bridge over the railroad crossing in question so that the road could get over the railroad tracks. You also need an elevator for pedestrians and bicycles. As a side road, it is possible to reduce the railroad crossing to a smaller size and leave it. In Osaka City, where I used to live, there is a "Tenma-Bridge(天満橋)”that spans the river in the city, and another road bridge is built on top of the road bridge. The main purpose is to avoid traffic congestion that occurs before and after the bridge. For reference, I will attach two pictures of the bridge. 【Tenma-Bridge over the river in Osaka(大阪市の天満橋)】 images.app.goo.gl/K4f9JdCGJ67PvqAY8 images.app.goo.gl/YRWKhXScQ8qiTnWQ7 In the plan I drew in my head, I would cross the Keikyu line and the JR line. Probably, the construction cost will be cheaper than the elevated railway. Thank you for reading the very long text. If you have any questions, please comment. I will reply if I notice. Thank you very much.Arigatou Gozaimasu.🤗
東京やったら渋谷駅の大工事とか下北沢駅周辺の大型再開発とか見てきたけど、鉄道を含む既存のシステムを全部スムーズに新しいシステムに切り替えるのがどれだけ大変かってのがわかる。だからこそ、阪急もすげえなあって思って見てるわ。見ることしかできひんけど。
東側土地区画整理事業内に住んでます。長い長い時間がかかってできている街だからこそ、いつかはわざわざ「淡路に足を運ぶ」という、大阪市内で唯一無二なエリアになって欲しいと願ってます。
下新庄駅の高架化で新幹線を見下ろすって結構スゴクない？
最後まで継子扱いされてた感があった淡路駅だが、いよいよ本格化か？
周辺道路も整備が進んでるし、別の町みたいに変貌しそうだな。
千里線の信号待ちと一緒の感覚で高架完成待ちですw
ちょっと遅くなりましたが、
２万人突破‼️おめでとうございます🎉💐
いつも楽しみに視聴しています。
幅広いジャンルの開発計画・新規建設、よくも次から次へと見つけてこられるものねぇと感心しています。
あと、この BGM が好きです。
他のどんな動画でも聴かれません……😌
あと6年もかかるのか・・まだまだ長いな
高架に移管した場合は旧駅舎には駅前にロータリーを併設してバスターミナルを設置して周辺のバス路線を新設してほしいですね、
更に新大阪方面や周辺の幹線道路の拡充工事も進められますからね。
いつも興味深く拝見しております。
美原ロータリーの立体交差の工事が途中で終わってます。
是非調べていただけたら嬉しいです。
まさに要塞ですね。
完成が楽しみです。
安全な環境になれば私も直接見に行きます。
むかしはさらにこれに、十三神崎川連絡線が計画されていたんですよね。もし実現していたらもっととんでもなくすごいことになったかもしれませんね。
かなり形になってきているとはいえ
まだ完成の想像がつかないですね。
全体の完成はさらに延びそうかなと…
吹田に住んでいます。神崎川の新しい橋脚は下新庄側にかけて高さがかなり違います。これを登って新幹線を越えるのかと思って見ています。
おおさか東線on阪急京都線on阪急千里線？
鉄道の三段立体交差って凄いな。しかも新幹線も跨ぐのか。
立体交差の一番上は眺めが良さそう。
VPO本町セントラルも取り上げて欲しいです！
東京の小田急の下北沢みたいだけど、規模はこっちの方が大きいね。完成図みて、こんなのできるんかいって思ったけど、着実に進んでるね。完成が楽しみ！！
名鉄知立駅周辺も同じような感じになってきている。
完成するまでに3300系は全車廃車になってそうですね。
現状の淡路駅はホームが手狭で密になりやすいから早く移設してほしい
近鉄西大寺も早期着工を！まだ工事すらはじまってないもんな…
阪神淡路大震災がなければもっと早くに完成しているはずだったけど、、、災害の影響は計り知れないですね。あと下新庄駅南側の高架は新幹線の上空に高架を掛けるというなかなかレアな箇所なので、送り出し工法が採られると思います。ぜひその工事も動画に！！
崇禅寺や柴島付近は交通量ほとんどなかったから立体化の恩恵は少ないかも．．．
本当にやるべき所は南方だよなぁ
新御堂筋をオーバーパスしなきゃいけないしあそこも周りに仮線用地がないからだいぶ難工事になりそう。地下は御堂筋線の更に下をくぐらないといけないから相当時間とお金かかることになりそうだしまだ現実的なのは高架だな
南方は自殺が多いんですよね。。。
十三〜新大阪間の地下新線を延ばして淡路まで接続出来れば(昔はこの免許を持ってたらしい)十三〜淡路間の従来の京都線区間を廃止してスッキリ出来たのに。
完成までまだまだ遠すぎて想像すらつかないです(´・ω・｀)
構想は自分が中学生の時からありました。仕事をしているうちに完成が見られるのか？と不安になります。
天王寺界隈が別次元の街に化けた様に淡路も化けるんでしょうかね？？と言っても駅以西には大きな闇がありますが。
過去に淡路に半年ほど住んでましたが近所で拉致殺人やら発砲騒ぎやらでたまらずに引っ越しました💦
In Australia the Victorian government made a line raised above the ground like this to get rid of level crossings and it was very controversial because people were worried about the way it would look. Do Japanese people think this style of railway is ugly or are they used to this type of infrastructure?
Mr.TRAINing the world
【Google Japanese-English translation】
Hi! I'm Oldman Hankyu. I worked for this railroad. This is my old nest. 😊
I am using a translator, so please forgive me for strange English. 😅
Well, thank you for watching this video from a distant country. And thank you for your question. I will answer briefly.
Railroad viaducts certainly look bad, but given the national situation in Japan, it can't be helped.へ(´ω`)へ
There is a big city in a small land, and people live there in a concentrated manner. The houses are built right next to the railroad site. There are places where that is not the case.
However, there are great benefits to making the railway three-dimensional. Because there are no railroad crossings and traffic is not obstructed there.
So, the railroad company chooses between underground railroad tracks and elevated railroad tracks, but if a new railroad track is laid in another place, it is an underground railroad track, but in the example of this video, the railroad company wanted to lay the railroad track in the same place. It looks bad, but the company adopted an elevated railroad. Besides, there are two big rivers nearby, so I don't want the tunnel to be submerged by the flood.
Elevated railroad tracks are used in other areas of the railway as well as in other lines, but there is also an old underground railroad track that was built in the 1930s on Kyoto's main street "Shijo-dori" and then extended.
Because, if an elevated railway runs in the middle of that "Kyoto", it will look bad and will have a bad effect on the cityscape. 😱
For that reason, railway companies use different construction methods, elevated railways or underground railroads.
My answer to your question looks like this. If you still have any questions about this railway company or other railways in Japan, please leave a comment. If you notice, I will reply as far as I know.
Thank you for reading the long text. Please pay attention to Coronavirus! When the turmoil is over, please come visit us in Japan. Goodbye.Sayonara 🤗
@@Midori-Clover Thank you for the very detailed reply and yes the English was good thank you. Yes I can see how space is a problem in Japan and how this 3D viaduct solves the problems of level crossings. In Australia we are not used to large infrastructure like this one for Hankyu railway. I lived in Nara city back in 2003 and I loved the railway system in Japan. I mainly used Kintetsu and JR. Yes I hope to come back and visit the Kansai area again when this Coronavirus has finished! Please come to Australia some time and see our railways!
@@trainingtheworld5093 さん
Oh! Thank you for your prompt reply. Did you live in Nara until 2003! It's very coincidental. I also live near JR Nara Station in Nara City. It seems that you are familiar with the situation in Japan and Kansai.
You also know the Kintetsu Railway. I'm not familiar with the railway situation in your country, Australia, but since railroad crossings in urban areas hindered road traffic and became a problem, did you try to solve the problem by constructing an elevated railway? Was the viaduct design a problem rather than cool?😅
Also, as for local news in Nara, recently, Nara Prefecture announced a plan to convert the Kintetsu Railway track into a subway and relocate it under the road on the south side of "Heijo Palace Remains Park" that you know. Where does that money come from⁉︎😱
The "Yamato-Saidaiji" station will definitely be affected by the underground, so it will be difficult to understand what the plan will look like when the underground railroad, the elevated railway, and the garage of the train are mixed‼︎😅
In this video, various architectural plans are uploaded, including the Kintetsu Railway plan, so please have a look if you like.
Coincidentally, I am very happy that you know Nara and Kansai. I would like to know about Australian railways in another video.😊
Please be fine ❣️
In Japan, there is such a term "unopened railroad crossing". This does not mean a "malfunctioned crossing", it refers to crossings that rarely open because of too many trains flow.
A famous example is "Shinagawa No.1 crossing" on the Keikyu-Line. It happens almost daily. ruclips.net/video/O7v8hTLPSec/видео.html
And there is a similar problem at the place in this video, it is a serious problem for the road users and the residents in the area. In the worst case, it will open only few minutes in an hour. Of course, ambulances and other emergency vehicles also have to wait.
There is no afford to argue about the landscape. The decision on whether or not to elevate the railway is based on whether or not the construction is physically possible.
Mr.@@popozz
Hi ❣️ You commented for the first time. I'm sorry I was late to notice.
I'm Oldman Hankyu. A long time ago, I worked for the railroad shown in this video.
I'm using a translator, so it may be strange English, but please forgive me.
ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー
I watched the video you sent me. This railway is the "Keikyu Electric Railway" in Tokyo, Japan. In addition, the railroad crossing in the video is near Shinagawa Station, next to the JR Tokaido Line, Yamanote Line, Keihin Tohoku Line, and the iron bridge that crosses the Tokaido Shinkansen.
I confirmed the location from the sky above the site. Of course, it's not an airplane. Google map. 😅
After reading your comment, I commend you for your insight. Your observations are accurate and 100% sure.😊
Why are you so familiar with Japan? Maybe you are a resident of Tokyo, Japan?
Oh ... the story flew somewhere, so let's get it back.
From what I observe, this railroad is a powerful railroad that connects Yokohama and Tokyo. And many trains transport commuters on weekday mornings and evenings. This is because all the railroads near the big cities in Japan play the same role. However, it has changed a little in Coronavirus.
This railroad crossing is close to Shinagawa Station, and while the preceding train bound for Tokyo City is stopped on the platform, the train behind it will be put on standby at the traffic light in front of the station.
And I predict that another train that follows the waiting train will also be waiting in front of the railroad crossing.
On the other hand, trains heading for Yokohama safely pass through curves with a small radius before and after the JR crossing iron bridge, so it seems that the passing speed is limited. I think it's about 40-50km / h.
For the above reasons, the road will be blocked for a long time at the railroad crossing.
In order to solve this, we would like to make the railroad tracks viaducts, but construction while operating is very difficult.
If I were a planner, I would build a road bridge over the railroad crossing in question so that the road could get over the railroad tracks.
You also need an elevator for pedestrians and bicycles. As a side road, it is possible to reduce the railroad crossing to a smaller size and leave it.
In Osaka City, where I used to live, there is a "Tenma-Bridge(天満橋)”that spans the river in the city, and another road bridge is built on top of the road bridge. The main purpose is to avoid traffic congestion that occurs before and after the bridge.
For reference, I will attach two pictures of the bridge.
【Tenma-Bridge over the river in Osaka(大阪市の天満橋)】
images.app.goo.gl/K4f9JdCGJ67PvqAY8
images.app.goo.gl/YRWKhXScQ8qiTnWQ7
In the plan I drew in my head, I would cross the Keikyu line and the JR line. Probably, the construction cost will be cheaper than the elevated railway.
Thank you for reading the very long text. If you have any questions, please comment. I will reply if I notice.
Thank you very much.Arigatou Gozaimasu.🤗
本来なら、淡路駅100周年と工事完成を同期させたかったんでしょうが、
粘る人たちがいましたね～ｗｗｗ。
かつての淡路駅とその周辺を知る者はだいぶ少なくなったでしょうね～ｗ
アルバイトしてアカシヤで買った腕時計はまだ健在ですわｗｗｗ
イズミヤの町田さん、まだ元気にしてるかな？
それどころか、自分が子供の頃から淡路高架計画があったので数十年越しのあれですね。
淡路駅周辺の高架工事もそうですが、崇禅寺駅に通過線を設けてほしかったです。えっ…相川の設備で充分だっけ？
京都線は建設経緯から元から阪急の神宝線より待避設備がある駅は充実してますよー。
言っても仕方ないけど崇禅寺駅から南方駅の区間は地下にして、南方駅は現在より新大阪駅に近づけて新大阪への連絡地下道を設け乗り換えを便利にし、南方駅の踏切を無くして欲しかったです
南方の踏切を無くすのは多いに賛同するけど、流石に新大阪との連絡通路案はないと俺は思う(現在南方↔︎新大阪の徒歩移動は健脚で約15分)
現在の場所と新大阪の中間くらいに新駅が出来たならという妄想デスw
おっ！1コメだw 淡路要塞がこれだけ大変なんだから、大和西大寺は無理だなw
いや、それをやってしまうのが大和魂だよ。
@@dobonful
その大和魂は周りが無理だ無理だ言ってるのも、きっと実現させるくらいの魂です！
これ本当に完成するのかな？
高評価ポチっ‼️
プラレールで、新旧淡路駅を其々再現するキットを販売したら、世界中で売れるかも。
？
完成予想イラストに6300の８連が・・・
欲を言えば新大阪経由の急行線を合わせて作ってほしかったけど。。。
今はJRがおおさか東線を作ったから「もういいや」ってなっちゃったのかな？
完成にあと100年はかかりそう💦
名鉄の知立の方が早よできるかも知れんわ。😥
知立駅は先に名鉄本線を高架化と２面４線化して（そこは早いな）、それから三河線を３階にと２段階だしな。
全線一気にやってる淡路駅と建て方が違う。全部終わらせるのは知立駅が遅いかも？
京阪が作ったものが、また無くなってゆく。
新京阪の「京阪間高速輸送」の夢を叶える為に必要なので仕方ないですな！！
1000年後 日本にもコロッセオがあったんだな
大阪のサグラダファミリア
下新庄の歴史を刻めの前を車が通るようになったら嫌やな
これを見るとモノレールの太い橋脚が街の見通しを悪くしている千葉駅前の景観を想起してしまう。工事の期待感は高いし、難度の高い工事現場に高揚感もありますが、「淡路要塞」と言われるだけあって見栄えの圧迫感はどうしても否めないですね。まちづくりの観点からはじわじわ問題が出てくる感じがします。地下化は検討したのかな？
阪急嵐山線を複線化、かつ地下化し、
JR嵯峨嵐山駅∼大覚寺南∼仁和寺·龍安寺∼金閣寺·立命館∼大徳寺·佛大∼上賀茂神社∼京産大∼叡電京都精華大
を造って欲しい
こまかい人ばかりやのに乗らんで。
バスで足りるな。
ひでぇ妄想w
近い妄想です。
少し修正させていただきます。
龍安寺 立命館 金閣寺 仏大 大徳寺
の順番で、
地下鉄北大路 から 洛北阪急スクエア 茶山 百万遍 京大 岡崎公園 祇園 京都河原町
まで、つながって欲しいよ。
祇園 清水寺 今熊野 東福寺 稲荷 京都駅 ていうルートがあれば、完璧に近くないですか。
完成すると強風時の運休が増えそうで心配です。
何言ってんだか…。
さすがに風対策は取ると思いますよ。
そうでなければ新幹線なんか運休続きですよ。
邪魔な阪急電車だよね。
最初から上に走らせてたらいいんだよね。
昭和初期の土木技術でこれ作らせるのか……
コメ主の方が邪魔w
工事は、永久中止です。
？？
意味不明w