I'm German, and something I've so many people have called me is a Nazi without knowing me or knowing what a true Nazi even is. German history is so much more than just good and evil it's emotional and really deep and I have to say, when I played that campaign I was genuinely taken away by how well it was made to the point where I almost cried. The way all of the crew members acted was really well played and the actors did an amazing Job. Thank you for bringing this up again.
I am sorry for all the non German speakers because the voice actors are crazy good. They nailed this so good, it's the only story I remember well from any battlefield campaign.
@Sturm Toons Must've been some really horrible fucks then if this was how they were treated, most German units that surrendered were taken prisoner with the exception of particularly infamous units or SS
@@rileygladue3362 its common knowledge that allies had "no pow" after the camps were found if I recall. Hell I recall it being taught unless ive been mandela'd
@@funbro99 Within the Soviet Red Army there is without a doubt that officers and higher ranking officials probably did pursue such a policy after the discovery of the camps, though this can be seen as an extension of the Red Armies animosity towards the Reich. The Western Allies didn't pursue it to nearly the same degree as the Soviets and while there are incidents of it, they were usually committed towards Waffen SS, of which most of Nazi Germany's atrocities were and can be attributed to their doing
Exactly like damn every WWII game we get it the allies stormed normandy what about the axis perspective. I dont sympithize with such people but we need more games and movies from the axis perspective that history is just as important as the allie view point
@@triforceninja13 True, But maybe there can be a plot like a historical fiction type thing where it's a nazi stormtrooper realizing what they are doing is wrong and he rises to the ranks of SS and gains hitlers trust and when the battle of berlin happens he goes into the bunker with hitler and kills him while the battle is happening and he has to kill nazis and soviets to escape. And right as he is about to get to safety he is shot in the leg and the soviets take him as a P.O.W. so there wouldnt be a happy ending like in a lot of WW2 games. Like at the end of games campaigns it's always yay you won it's victiorious but i would like to see an ending where the person has redeemed themselves but doesnt get a happy ending.
@@triforceninja13 Why not? Are they not human? Did they not fight for their countries and their families like the allies did? My great grandfather was a soldier in the axis. I will never say that he was evil, or that he didn't fight for what he believed was right.
@Mirage_Panzer wdym by that? The ending wasn't really unrealistic. Just because the kid wasn't shot from the German soldier doesn't mean its unrealistic. A lot of germans towards the end of the war were done with the war in general. Its also a notion that the kid checking underneath the tank wasn't a volunteer because towards the end of the war germany conscripted any able body to be sent to the frontlines. So its entirely possible that ending could occur.
@Mirage_Panzer those i can agree with you on. However there could be some very very situational conditions that could make them semi realistic. Like the tiger scene, tigers were said to run out of ammo before they destroyed all enemy armor combatants because of how weak Sherman's are against enemy armor. So a tiger commander seeing only 3 shermans might get extremely arrogant or cocky and challenge them head on even though charging enemy armor is never advised. however tigers could face entire American armor battalions and still live. As for the elite battalion, this is towards the end of the war, training is being cut short due to resource shortages and more bodies being needed to the front so its entirely possible that some if not most of that battalion is undertrained and has little combat experience. Both the Wehrmacht and SS had poor training towards the end of the war because of these issues. As for the scene itself bullets barely do anything that is medium armor or better, grenades as well unless bundled together like AT grenades are. As for anti tank weaponry they are usually stored on supply trucks or other various vehicles and sometimes tanks. So the first 2 or 3 supply trucks that were destroyed in the beginning was detrimental to that battalion and would take more time for the other supply trucks to reach them and get the panzershreks or panzerfausts to the soldiers. Again these events are not likely but plausible. It would take a very skilled and highly trained crew to be able to pull of this stunt. Onto your statement about the German kid, he's a kid. SS battalion or not, that might of been his first engagement at all in the war. The Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany as opposed to the SS who were fighting for hitler. So a very few amount of Wehrmacht officers/high ranking officials knew about the holocaust. As opposed to the SS. However towards the end of the war The SS got a hold of the Wehrmacht conscription list and was able to force conscript from there. So the later in the war, the less the SS were fighting for Hitler. It can be also speculated that the German kid represents Machine from before he killed germans. He didn't want to kill anyone because he was scared to until he was forced to and it represents acts of karma. That being said not every German was a monster born from hell. There were plenty of nice Wehrmacht officers who treated everyone with respect including those from the opposing side, SS officers too however these numbers would be extremely small. Either way fury isn't very realistic but also could be plausible under certain circumstances.
@Mirage_Panzer forgot to add but moving while shooting severely hinders the accuracy of tanks. So its also plausible that the very poor accuracy was due to the tank in motion rather than standing still. Especially the shermans as they were not reliable and were possibly one of the worst tanks in WW2
Something about DICE is really confusing to me. Sometimes they just absolutely nail their storytelling. Just like they did here or with the campaign in BF1. And then sometimes they screw up tremendously. You can say what you want about this game, but this here is also an example of DICE's great storytelling skills.
DICE usually stick to realistic story even that mean was boring to its core, sorry but to me BF3 & 4 despite being boring, it still believable story if we take into consideration of realistic(kinda) soldier
This campaign needs to be an entire Battlefield game. Imagine playing a long German campaign from the build-up and beginning of WWII down to the end. Characters develop from the enthusiastic recruit, progressing to the disillusioned veterans. The other side POV is so interesting since it's rarely ever talked about.
Its not a game, but I recommend you watch Generation War. Its a French-German show about a group of young Germans, two of them soldiers, one a combat nurse, the other a jew. Its exactly what you described, and its fucking amazing. It does a good job of conveying the suffering of the German soldiers and civilians during WW2.
I know the kid was a evil little shit, but I think his character was one of the most enduring elements of this story. Especially when he says "the weak don't survive, Those were your words! Say it! It was like that!" He was so confused and scared, because his entire life he was brainwashed to think like that. At the end of it, he was just a confused child who was mislead to think that what was going on around him was acceptable. It also helps understand the grief that Peter was probably feeling in that moment. "Those were YOUR words." The sentiments he was fooled into believing helped form the monster that shot Kurtz.
He was so brainwashed that he was possessed by the ideology. He was more a victim than a wicked person though... just a kid, and simply a tool of the Nazi regime, like millions of others.
The ending scene was just a perfect showcase about the end of the war, for Germany... everything just burning and falling apart, with no hope of mercy, but some people were still fighting until the last breath
I have never heard how many German troops got executed by the SS but I know my great grandpa deserted and hid in a forest where the SS was searching for him and his wife had to go out there with food and a loaded pistol to give him food until he surrendered to the Americans because he was good at English.
@@DaOideRassl that’s great he survived did you ever get to meet him my great grandpa was in WII he was a sapper and he and some other soldiers ambushed some Japanese soldiers the Japanese soldiers had their tanks stuck in the mud and the captured the tank they all carved they’re name into the tank it is in the Australian war museum now but it’s in the storage room sadly He survived but I never met him (Edit: thanks for the likes )
@@travisbickle4360 think about what inhumane things the Germans did, then try and cry for them, leaving the ones who endured the suffering from the Germans cold hearted.
@@SAADBK8774 no he did he has his Luger but I think he toss it or put it away, either way, they knew he would already surrender cause he's on the open damn
@@gkmginger56 bc the Americans were shooting at the other guy bc he was shooting back, they both want it to end, you can tell by the Americans yelling "JUST GIVE UP DAMNIT!"
“In the end... there will be no one left. “We are no longer innocent..., We are lost from this world...; From home. “We no longer believe in such things... We only believe in war...” This quote from the BF1: Apocalypse trailer perfectly sums up the Last Tiger
didnt mean to ruin the emotion but that "we are no longer innocent" my mind just read that as "we are no stranger to love" lol i guess i got rickrolled by my brain
This scene reminded me of this quote. "The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human." -Aldous Huxley
It’s sad because it’s true, hell one of the nazi commanders in charge of the battle of Berlin went against his orders and turned it into a rescue operation to save as many civilians as he could so they could surrender to the west because he knew the Russians weren’t gonna show much mercy.
well you know, when the country you're referring to has done nothing but start a global conflict the destroyed other people's homes, ruined a chance at people being individuals, killed swaths of people to where it would keep the morticians busy for years to come, it's pretty fucking hard to look at them and go "where were the good ones in this fight?" I'm very well aware of how not all of them were Nazi's, but people who keep saying stupid shit like "history is written by the victors" or "they will never tell this/these stories/story for xyz reasons" have a great tendency to forget what the warmongering nations had done to where it doesn't surprise me that there'll never be an influx of stories/representation for them to sift through the trash heap of fanatics that did start the war, that spilt the blood of millions. Granted, if we don't look at our former enemy in a different light, we'll also forget how they too were victims of evil seducing them. that i do understand. but i still don't blame many for not jumping at the idea of trying to showcase to the world that our former enemies weren't dotted with blood thirsty fanatics.
I don't care what anyone says if battlefield is good or bad, one thing we can all agree is that it is beautiful from WW1 apocalypse to the sands of Iwo jima, from falling skyscrapers and frosty mountains. I will never forget it
It's always interesting to see the views of Germans at the end of the war. Veterans and others seeing the futility and the brainwashed generation still fighting on
Oh my god. The sadness of that tanker realizing he had poisoned the mind of that young one. We’re all just human. Capable of both horrifying terrors and awesome truth and beauty.
And we never learn from history. Never. Even when the cyclical and repeating factors are OBVIOUS in the present day, we still refuse to learn until it's too late.
@@flyingsquirrel1135 I’m not talking about anything genocide, I’m only referring to a human Soldier forced to defend their country whom only has that goal at heart I do not and will never condone the actions of the Nazi party as far as the genocide they committed
peter actually survived. The gun sound at the end when the black came up was the sound of the m3 greese gun that the americans used suggesting that it was the kid who got shot, not peter
I don't think so. Listen to MP40 when the teen shoots Kertz (1:43) and listen to the gunshots at the end (3:07). So the brainwashed teen does kill Peter.
I'll admit as much as I hate what battlefield v was I give my respect to the devs for still including this, it's extremely rare to see the German perspective of the war in any capacity and with the last tiger I think they nailed it pretty damn well.
@@wacky3486 The truth is there were no baddies. All sides were about equally bad, and the opportunities and the severety of their situations decided what went on. Human action, from worst to best. The Germans got the blame as the loosers of the war. All sides had camps. The Sowjets used most of the German ones without pause after capture. They already had killed a higher number of people than died in the 2 WW before it even started. The Brits starved about 4 million people in India in a man-made famine though their war policies and 'priorities'. After the war the western allies used German forced labour in the millions. Not only prisoners of war were forced. The French were vindictive, letting people clear mine fields without the proper care, their government citing that about 2000 prisoners were killed monthly by that. Small numbers add up. The food situation in Europe was catastrophic in the 1940s in and after the war, you can find pictures of civilians who look like from the death camps. While The good guy American narrative can hold some water. The pow camps of the Americans have officially the lowest numbers of deaths, but they were the shortest in existence. And they were usually really only that pow camps, not forced labour ones. In the end, there are still missing people in the low millions. Probably dead somewhere in France in a limited number and a higher one in the Sowjet Union. Like the Reich wanted to starve the Russian country side, the Allied forces had a plan to starve the germans and reorganize the land in the middle of Europe. This was a possible scenario. And it was not abondoned because of good will but because the western allies wanted Germans to be a wall against the Sowjets. The US took all the inhuman experiments findings, be it German or Japanese. Took the most scientists in. And according to now declassified documents, that they probably mistakenly didn't destroy, a lot of people continued their research on US black sides. Well, that's about the random bits of stuff there which is kinda ignored. It's also about time and year. In the war and right after, you had situations like stated above from France. Just put a gun to their head and let them 'clear' the mine field. Later you had volunteers for that because of good pay, the still terrible food situation, needed equipment, treatment in case of injury, and a rent to widows.
@@iwankazlow2268 I don't think you fundamentally understand why there's a narrative of the Nazis being the super evil bad guy that they're portrayed as. So I'll try to explain it as concisely as possible. So when it comes to camps, people never really complain about Germany's pow camps, as it's pretty accurate to say that everyone's pow camps were about as awful as everyone else's. The big thing here is the concentration camps, y'know, the imprisonment of millions of Jewish citizens who were systematically and actively genocided, numbered, used for science experiments and executed for no other reason then being Jewish. This is something that is insanely well documented to an absurdist point, if you want more information on those crimes against humanity, you can always look at the Nuremburg trials. We of course also have an ideology that was introduced by Germany which wasn't only incredibly heinous, but surprisingly stupid and incomprehensible. Good ole fascism and it's odd child, Nazism. Fascism stating that the only reason for people to live is to die for the godly power of the state, to sacrifice one's individuality and personhood for it and to take everything away from anyone who dared reject it. Just imagine the world of 1984 and you've imagined fascism. And Nazism which is basically the same thing that it's for the race and the state, of which is also entirely arbitrary because they're literally unable to tell who is and who isn't a part of the glorious Aryan race due to everyone following the ideology being unable to do anything without someone telling them. Basically just 1984 but somehow worse. While I am making fun of their ideologies, it's mostly due to how incredibly stupid they are when you do the smallest amount of research, fuck me dude they couldn't even bring themselves out of economic austerity after starting a war and genociding millions of people due to how incompetent they were. Couldn't even do that. Regardless, as bad as some of the war crimes that were committed by the Allies were, they don't have shit on all of the incredibly fucked up shit Germany did (also consider the fact that Germany literally started the war by invading poland lmfao, even their own sources confirm they did), and we haven't even touched on everything the entirety of the axis powers did during that time. I haven't even touched on all the shit Germany did. So considering all of this, I'd say that Germany rightfully deserves it's title of the super big bad guy of ww2 and I wish more games actually went into those atrocities
We need more games of the German perspective in the war. It's something that if done right can really bring Battlefield to the top for a couple of years just like BF1
Like 1/3 of the German soldiers were forced into conscription or hanged by the neck, and those hated the SS which is why a group of Wehrmacht soldiers fought against the SS with the Americans near the end of the war to rescue French hostages. So it’d be interesting to see the point of view of a Wehrmacht solder who was forced into conscription.
I wanted to see the end of the story, I feel it was cut short before after everyone dies in tiger I know the war still goes on for the other remaining Germans.
That ultimately was the big difference between the First and Second World Wars. There was no real German retreat in 1918. The invasion of France failed, the Kaiser knew it was all over and just surrendered. Hitler on the other hand was a madman who felt that Germany deserved to burn if it wasn’t victorious and his army was basically forced to fight to the death.
Certainly the ideology played a part, but there is another huge factor. In WW1, they knew surrender was an option. They signed an armistice and faced harsh terms, but that would be the end. For the German leaders in WW2, this was not the case. The allies demanded only unconditional surrender. No terms. Those who surrendered, especially to the Soviets, faced oblivion. For the whole German leadership, surrender meant execution, as happened at Nuremburg. The Germans were given the choice "Surrender and die, or fight and die." Their response was only human.
The Mole, that’s a very 2021 way to look at wwll. I don’t feel like typing out a long lengthy response because I’m kinda tired. So instead I’ll just say this, I challenge you to read up on and study wwll from a German perspective. Then look back at your comment and tell me if you still agree with it.
@@program4215 the Germans should have surrendered to the Allie’s only on the condition that the Allie’s help push back the soviets, which is PRECISELY what Patton wanted to do, instead of send all the captured Axis forces to POW camps he wanted to push the soviets back who he saw as the greater threat. And he was right, and the establishment who wanted to use communism to their benefit(look at the word today) killed Patton for it. Believe nothing you read in the history books, they were written by the victors, and we lost not the Axis, but to our own governments.
@@Rpg39_ I'm presuming by German perspective you mean what Program above you was summarising. Well as he said there were multiple factors at work and I don't doubt for a second that (at least with the Soviet advance) the Germans felt they had no choice but to fight to the death, as the Soviets had before them. Bottom line however you look at it though, is by the end of the war Hitler was clearly losing it and if anyone with a cooler head had been in charge it might have ended less bloodily.
The last tiger is quite easily the best battlefield campaign ever, on par with the tank one from bf1. But I remember when I first completed the last tiger I had to take like half an hour to just sit there and be in awe at how good it was. I still get goosebumps now after doing it so many times
Same afterwards I just took a break from gaming for a few days. I don't know really why but that story was just so sad that I just couldn't keep playing for a while.
Last tiger and the friends in high places from battlefield 1 are some of the best war stories. Friends in high places had such a brilliant twist in the end
@@borris3768 Well that's your opinion mate. It was different in that it wasn't just one main campaign but honestly I think it was better. I really enjoy single player and story games so seeing not just both sides perspectives but individual perspectives aswell was just so amazing to me I think they really smashed it out of the park
Die meisten wollten garnichts damit zu tun haben aber wenn man nicht ins Militär gehen wollte wurde man wegen "verrat" ins Gefängnis gebracht oder sogar schlimmer ins KZ Sry but my english is not the yellow from the egg pls use Google translate
That scene was something else. Kerts realising the truth, Peter beginning to realise it, and insanely brainwashed Schroeder killing him, his humanity replaced with loyal obedience to the Reich, Peter giving up,and then the end
Can't Remember Tbf to this Sturm guy, the US-UK did trade German prisoners to the soviets as part of a series of prisoner exchange deals in 1945. There still is a big hole in his argument though. The USSR mostly took prisoners that served mostly in the east front but was captured in the west front. This way, they can judge those POWs for their actions in the eastern front where they mostly served rather than the western front where their combat action was minimal. Peter, the commander of the tiger tank in this story, never served in the eastern front however since he only served in N. Africa and the western front. Thus, the Soviets would have little interest to inflict a reprisal sentence on him because they never even saw him in combat. It wouldnt make sense for the Soviets to write down tons of paperwork, set up a plane in Berlin and create a new extensive court trial just to send a guy they barely know about to a gulag.
@Sturm Toons strum toons clearly shows that you are German, or have a liking to German culture. “Strum” especially shows that you are interested in ww2 and all your other comments show that you are a obvious nazi sympathizer. Please use your brain for more useful things
Dice definitely had a completely different team of writers working on The Last Tiger because they absolutely nailed that war story and the rest were a bit meh
@@TechnoMinarchist imagine taking a Battlefield game this seriously. Judging by your logic all BF games spit in the face of the people who went through this in real life.
@@thatangrygerman2076 The Norwegian story is based on a real story where real men lost their lives and they chose to replace them with a woman for a political agenda.
@@ChandranPrema123 like the Germans said "One German tank can kill 20 American Tanks, but the Americans always had 21." but in this case it's 100 tanks but they always had 200.
I don't care what people say about BFV but the shit they did in this game was amazing. Never in a COD would a cutscene make you feel it to your core like this. Regardless of the ratings, this scene alone makes battlefield what it is, amazing.
@@tommythetemplar yup, COD always dead game after 7 month of release while BFV to this date as most failed game still had many decent player lolz heck even to this date BF3 & 4 still populated while COD 4, 2, 3 and even ghost are near dead game
@@karsten3360 it seems like you are not aware about how story campaign are being delivered in BFV, the prologue and the last tigers are not full blown campaign, they took some inspiration cut off the political crap put it in the game. Yes Germany committed war crimes but not all. We could go all day talking about those individual or units that didn't commit wars crimes. The point is they were able to pull Off 2 german side stories and it's good, the idea was to focus on one soldiers perspective it doesn't Matter if you can see them as a hero or not , it's just their story on one particular scenario
@@karsten3360 “huge amount of war crimes by the germans” Soviet raping of women from captured territories, Americans killing surrendering Germans, Japanese killing American, British, New Zealand, Australian and Asian medics would like to have a word with you
It's so hard to take someone seriously when they think every German soldier was a horrible Nazi. In there mind they were fighting for their country against countries that were threatening its existence
Atesz222 the regular German soldier was not different to the regular american soldier. There are always extremes but most of them just fought because they had to.
@@wallace3930 Alright the Wehraboo rhetoric here is pissing me off a little. Statistically, most German soldiers on the Eastern Front where caught up in war crimes of some kind. Early in the war many joined the Wehrmacht voluntarily, non conscripted, in spite of the clear propaganda used by the Nazi regime. This makes them awful people regardless if they commited war crimes or not, the the fact they enlisted for an army that was genociding entire races of people. For those who were forced to fight, who had to serve on the frontlines, but didn’t want to, fine, they have my sympathy. For all the other German soldiers though, they can rot in hell.
This reminds me of my grandfather in the GDR at the so called "Grenzwache" where they watched the border. It was about 10 years after the war and he was there with his friend, when a family tried to escape and he needed to shoot them... But he didn't, his friend noticed it of course and immediately reported it to the headquarters. "Luckily" my Grandfather wasn't shot, but he was sent to a concentration camp (they still existed in the GDR while Stalin reigned) and only got out thanks to Stalin dying. My Mother told me he was never the same after that. (He spoke perfectly Russian tho)
In a perfect world, Germany defeated the Soviet Union and then Hitler was succesfully assassinated in Operation Valkyrie. I really can't tell who were worse: the nazies or the commies. Props to your grandfather for having the courage to do the honorable thing despite the risk to his own well being...
@@Jaeger_89 Ah yes, in this perfect world of yours the Holocaust would have been barely the start of something bigger. Besides, of course, that Operation Valkyrie wouldn't have happened if the general saw Hitler winning.
It hit me too hard. The end was amazing, the whole campaign was amazing. The characters that were created, whole storyline of tiger commander slowly realising that their fight does not have any point. Great job DICE.
Between Nordlys, Under no Flag and Tirailleur, The Last Tiger is my favorite: it shows the unawareness of soldier of what they were doing, the sadness and shock of raising a brainwashed monster that will shoot you in the end following the ideas YOU told him. DICE did a good job in this campaign and Tirailleur.
> unwareness of what they were doing lol they weren’t unaware. the atrocities of the third reich were very well known. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
@Sturm Toons You clearly didn't get the point of my comment. This isn't about political justifications for hatred, it's about the children who were called upon to kill and die for rich, meth-addicted, dog killing, liars. Fuck national socialists, all my homies hate national socialists.
I really hate what happened to Hartmann earlier in the mission, he was just a scared helpless kid and then got killed by his own fellow soldiers for being a deserter. Peter knew what they were doing wrong and you could see it in his facial expression when he saw what they did to Hartmann.
"Ordinary people" i can't recommend this book enough. Shows that even civilian middle aged Germans were committing war crimes even when they were given choice not to.
Yep.Almost everyone would have acted the same if they were in their shoes. Ordinary People, Machete Season, Gulag Archipelago are books that truly shows our proclivity for evil. "Dont read history as a victim but as a perpetrator" -Jordan Peterson
@@hankhill2154 on the other hand we have example of cultures/mentalities like Poles who were first to fight Germans, went to war with childlike optimism, during war endured Holocaust, created whole underground state with army counting half milion soldiers who were fighting all over Europe, who not only helped the most Jews but even created whole organisations that had sole purpose of saving Jews. All this while the terror in occupied Poland was unlike anywhere else. Including death sentence for whole family and sometimes even neighbours, for aiding jews in any way. I understand Peterson sentiment but I think he underestimates the power of culture, and mentality which is result of it.
@@Olhor10 not gonna lie bro I just started studying world history about two months ago...twelve years of school and learned nothing but our countries history. Got any books, videos and movies to get me up to speed.
@@NguyenTran-mf9gj I think that's mainly because it feels the most realistic or new, the others felt like generic action story's with unremarkable characters for the most part and while the last tiger has its fair share of generic fighting, the perspective and conclusion of it rings way louder than any of the other campaigns. To me at any rate
@@NguyenTran-mf9gj i would've loved to have like a 10 hours campaign with only the last tiger, to learn more about Germany's point of view. The soldiers, the generals, the citizens. That would've been a masterpiece.
Genuinely one of my favourite missions of a WW2 game. It was the first time I'd ever seen the human side of nazis shown. They were fathers and sons and many were forced to fight
They weren't forced to fight. Sure, in the last few months of 45' there were drastic measures taken but alot joined voluntarily and knew the cause well. around 10 millions soviet civilians were killed during the war most killed by wehrmacht's soldier take the 6th army for example in one day it killed 30,000 soviet civilians and raped tens of thousands more.
@@spitfire8790 German soldiers you idiot!!!! The Nazi party was a political party, and the soldiers were simply sent out to fight for them. Do you call American soldiers "Republican soldiers," when Bush was in power? Now about being forced or not, betwen 1935-1939, 1.3 million were conscripted and 2.4 were not.
history never remembers when people realize they made a grave mistake . most of the time its too late by then anyways because everything you cared about is gone .
That's something I love about battlefield Germans speak German Japanese speak Japanese Englishmen speak English And Americans speak what ever the f*** they speak but its not the Queen's English.
Yet the game has censured swastikas The characters were very good and charismatic, i just wish it wasn't censored and actually showed that even that they were fighting for an murderous regime, they were still humans, probably not even fighting for the Führer, but fighting for survival.
not really, this campaign was quite the circle jerk for the wehrboo's. while it is good this campaign tells people that most German soldiers were innocent and it was all the SS and those who weren't innocent are brainwashed which is far from the truth. most voluntarily committed war crimes without being brainwashed and the thing is most of them are Wehrmacht's soldiers.
@@spitfire8790 what is a war crime?? did the allied air force not "voluntarily" commit war crimes when bombing the fuck out of German civilians? war is nothing but death, there is no good or bad......
@@parkerhaynes4913 'Waaaaaaaah Even Though I bombed you, you can't do the same to me!" Good, Remember Coventry. Kill them. Wanna Bomb the UK? Just don't bitch when the RAF return the favor tenfold.
The men realizing their fighting on the wrong side, the young boys being brainwashed into thinking they are fighting for good, and the cold bitter stain on the lives of those who fought. "People often forget that the first country Germany invaded was its own" - Dr. Erskine
this whole story is based of his beginning line “no… but you were there” signifying that no peter wasn’t a nazi no peter didn’t agree with hanging deserters and no peter didn’t agree with the war, but he was there amongst them. guilty by association even tho he never did anything wrong. this was such a beautiful story about a man who was doing what he thought was right and fighting for his brothers and sisters back home, but realized he was wrong too late.
"Some" is a good word here because CoD has pulled some serious stories in the past. First Modern Warfare and World at War come to mind as some of the best shooters in history, with WaW being arguably one of if not THE most brutal depiction of WW2 in video games. Especialy the Eastern Front, showcasing the attrocities commited by both Germans and Soviets.
You know, when I started playing this one I expected to be fighting Soviets or something. I was surprised it was the Americans. For some reason, it almost felt relieving to see the script flipped on its head like that. And it was particularly amusing to have a better grasp on what my enemy was saying for once.
This is why I love the battlefield series. Especially the WW1 and WW2 one. This was actually a bit heartbreaking to watch honestly even though it’s just a scene from a game, then again it’s based off a war that happened so this could have happened
I clicked on the video cos I thought from the title it was going to be a funny game breaking bug. What I got was tears and lots of empathy for humans that died during a terrible conflict
The thing thats great about this is that it has an inception like ending. You have almost no idea what couldve happened. The outcome is entirely yours to decide. This is what makes a story really special.
From what I've been told, my great grandfather was one of those that fought until the end. He had volunteered for the Eastern front when all hope of holding it had already been lost and believed in the "Endsieg" until the end of the war.
@@faurtracstv715 I believe he didn't die in combat. He was captured by the Soviets (argueabely a worse fate considering how POWs were treated in the USSR)
@@Micsmit_45 "(argueabely a worse fate considering how POWs were treated in the USSR)" an entirely justifiable fate that the Germans brought on them selves for commiting millions of war crimes.
This ending and overall story really did hit me It’s one of the best war stories in battlefield history and I’d even say in the WW2 shooter category Being able to see the Germans perspective for once was really cool even though everything they done Gameplay wise…..eh it was Aight
What I love about this scene is how it humanizes the taskmasters of fascist regimes while not holding back any criticism of the fascist system that compels them, or even of the people it humanizes. Fascism is a deeply inhuman ideology that only begets self-destruction, and this scene does an incredible job of portraying that.
@@doge_ram7234 I like how people literally just read my username and refuse to give any more thought, which is ignorance. This post is a complete cope.
@@idontbelieveinthealliespro4426 go ahead and explain your reasoning then, I'm genuinely interested in how you think fascism is in any way humane or moral.
This game has the best music ever and you cant change my mind. The immersion of starting a match of twisted steel and hearing the begging of round music is so good.
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I'm on break now rank every bf1 worst to best video from worst to best
When all’s done and good, you realize that behind ever gunsight, a human being, as likely as you or me
This was definitely the Saddest mission
I'm German, and something I've so many people have called me is a Nazi without knowing me or knowing what a true Nazi even is. German history is so much more than just good and evil it's emotional and really deep and I have to say, when I played that campaign I was genuinely taken away by how well it was made to the point where I almost cried. The way all of the crew members acted was really well played and the actors did an amazing Job. Thank you for bringing this up again.
COD WWII???
“Murderers are not monsters, they’re men. And that’s the most frightening thing about them.” -Alice Sebold
Bruh
@@savagepeasantiv8805 wtf do you mean "BrUh" it's facts
@@natorious9091 meanwhile that one women that kill ppl just to bath in it "hmm yes im a men"
@@natorious9091 Maybe he thinks women can also be murderers not just men
@@destroyertashkent5713 youre either baiting or doing your best to find something to get mad about. Either way f*** you
I am sorry for all the non German speakers because the voice actors are crazy good. They nailed this so good, it's the only story I remember well from any battlefield campaign.
The French voice actings with senegalese accent was pretty damn good
Ausgezeichnet 👌
Voice actors are great. The translations are a bit off but not bad lol
I speak a little bit of german and still felt the emotion in the actors' voices. Dice really nailed this one. Shame it wasn't a longer story
Voice actor is Germany man tho.
Really love the part we're the GI yells "just give up dammit", it really shows that both sides at this point just want it to end.
@Sturm Toons yes because u were there and we all know there were no POWs at all
@Sturm Toons Must've been some really horrible fucks then if this was how they were treated, most German units that surrendered were taken prisoner with the exception of particularly infamous units or SS
@@rileygladue3362 its common knowledge that allies had "no pow" after the camps were found if I recall. Hell I recall it being taught unless ive been mandela'd
@@funbro99 Within the Soviet Red Army there is without a doubt that officers and higher ranking officials probably did pursue such a policy after the discovery of the camps, though this can be seen as an extension of the Red Armies animosity towards the Reich. The Western Allies didn't pursue it to nearly the same degree as the Soviets and while there are incidents of it, they were usually committed towards Waffen SS, of which most of Nazi Germany's atrocities were and can be attributed to their doing
@@rileygladue3362 D-day is a famous example of it not just being reserved for the ss..doubt hitler youth was spared either.
We need more games from this perspective. Storming Normandy actually gets boring around the 50 thousandth time
Exactly like damn every WWII game we get it the allies stormed normandy what about the axis perspective. I dont sympithize with such people but we need more games and movies from the axis perspective that history is just as important as the allie view point
Execpt nobody want’s to play as a nazi
@@triforceninja13 True, But maybe there can be a plot like a historical fiction type thing where it's a nazi stormtrooper realizing what they are doing is wrong and he rises to the ranks of SS and gains hitlers trust and when the battle of berlin happens he goes into the bunker with hitler and kills him while the battle is happening and he has to kill nazis and soviets to escape. And right as he is about to get to safety he is shot in the leg and the soviets take him as a P.O.W. so there wouldnt be a happy ending like in a lot of WW2 games. Like at the end of games campaigns it's always yay you won it's victiorious but i would like to see an ending where the person has redeemed themselves but doesnt get a happy ending.
I sympathize with the axis and I don't want any games where you play as them tbh it's just gonna be historical fanfic like most of these games are
@@triforceninja13 Why not? Are they not human? Did they not fight for their countries and their families like the allies did? My great grandfather was a soldier in the axis. I will never say that he was evil, or that he didn't fight for what he believed was right.
Fury's ending: relief
This ending: pain
Putting myself in Machines shoes...the ending of fury is absolutely devastating
They are the same ending with almost the same meaning. The only diffrence is, Fury showed the Allied Side, while BF showed the Axis side
@Mirage_Panzer wdym by that? The ending wasn't really unrealistic. Just because the kid wasn't shot from the German soldier doesn't mean its unrealistic. A lot of germans towards the end of the war were done with the war in general. Its also a notion that the kid checking underneath the tank wasn't a volunteer because towards the end of the war germany conscripted any able body to be sent to the frontlines. So its entirely possible that ending could occur.
@Mirage_Panzer those i can agree with you on. However there could be some very very situational conditions that could make them semi realistic. Like the tiger scene, tigers were said to run out of ammo before they destroyed all enemy armor combatants because of how weak Sherman's are against enemy armor. So a tiger commander seeing only 3 shermans might get extremely arrogant or cocky and challenge them head on even though charging enemy armor is never advised. however tigers could face entire American armor battalions and still live. As for the elite battalion, this is towards the end of the war, training is being cut short due to resource shortages and more bodies being needed to the front so its entirely possible that some if not most of that battalion is undertrained and has little combat experience. Both the Wehrmacht and SS had poor training towards the end of the war because of these issues. As for the scene itself bullets barely do anything that is medium armor or better, grenades as well unless bundled together like AT grenades are. As for anti tank weaponry they are usually stored on supply trucks or other various vehicles and sometimes tanks. So the first 2 or 3 supply trucks that were destroyed in the beginning was detrimental to that battalion and would take more time for the other supply trucks to reach them and get the panzershreks or panzerfausts to the soldiers. Again these events are not likely but plausible. It would take a very skilled and highly trained crew to be able to pull of this stunt. Onto your statement about the German kid, he's a kid. SS battalion or not, that might of been his first engagement at all in the war. The Wehrmacht were fighting for Germany as opposed to the SS who were fighting for hitler. So a very few amount of Wehrmacht officers/high ranking officials knew about the holocaust. As opposed to the SS. However towards the end of the war The SS got a hold of the Wehrmacht conscription list and was able to force conscript from there. So the later in the war, the less the SS were fighting for Hitler. It can be also speculated that the German kid represents Machine from before he killed germans. He didn't want to kill anyone because he was scared to until he was forced to and it represents acts of karma. That being said not every German was a monster born from hell. There were plenty of nice Wehrmacht officers who treated everyone with respect including those from the opposing side, SS officers too however these numbers would be extremely small. Either way fury isn't very realistic but also could be plausible under certain circumstances.
@Mirage_Panzer forgot to add but moving while shooting severely hinders the accuracy of tanks. So its also plausible that the very poor accuracy was due to the tank in motion rather than standing still. Especially the shermans as they were not reliable and were possibly one of the worst tanks in WW2
Something about DICE is really confusing to me. Sometimes they just absolutely nail their storytelling. Just like they did here or with the campaign in BF1. And then sometimes they screw up tremendously.
You can say what you want about this game, but this here is also an example of DICE's great storytelling skills.
DICE usually stick to realistic story even that mean was boring to its core, sorry but to me BF3 & 4 despite being boring, it still believable story if we take into consideration of realistic(kinda) soldier
There might be different teams producing these story lines and details and other teams making multiplayer world
My mistake.
Wokeness vs story telling
@@onjimana nobody said it wasn't.
This campaign needs to be an entire Battlefield game. Imagine playing a long German campaign from the build-up and beginning of WWII down to the end. Characters develop from the enthusiastic recruit, progressing to the disillusioned veterans. The other side POV is so interesting since it's rarely ever talked about.
The developers would be walking on a lot of egg shells if ever a game was made.
Its not a game, but I recommend you watch Generation War. Its a French-German show about a group of young Germans, two of them soldiers, one a combat nurse, the other a jew. Its exactly what you described, and its fucking amazing. It does a good job of conveying the suffering of the German soldiers and civilians during WW2.
Maybe try the movie Generation War
@@G4meBust3rLP Its not really a movie, more of a mini-show but yeah
Even if it was done well with no bias towards the Germans the critiques will claim that the developers are normalizing nazis
They nailed this so well. I only wanted to play Battlefield V for this story, and it was awesome.
I know the kid was a evil little shit, but I think his character was one of the most enduring elements of this story. Especially when he says "the weak don't survive, Those were your words! Say it! It was like that!" He was so confused and scared, because his entire life he was brainwashed to think like that. At the end of it, he was just a confused child who was mislead to think that what was going on around him was acceptable. It also helps understand the grief that Peter was probably feeling in that moment. "Those were YOUR words." The sentiments he was fooled into believing helped form the monster that shot Kurtz.
He was so brainwashed that he was possessed by the ideology. He was more a victim than a wicked person though... just a kid, and simply a tool of the Nazi regime, like millions of others.
If that kid is evil then spoons make people fat
THAT was good character development on their behalf
He wasnt evil he was just a good listener ...........
@Sturm Toons In his perspective sure but it's war dude, expect to see some warcrimes
Seeing a game where you play as the Germans is quite a rare sight enough.. But this game not only did that.. It also did it amazingly..
The last tiger is what I believe to be the best story in all of the singleplayer stories. The other stories to me did not at all have the same impact
@@Egitheegg agreed
@@Egitheegg agreed
Need more games to play as Germans
@@xeon39688 there are dozens
The ending scene was just a perfect showcase about the end of the war, for Germany... everything just burning and falling apart, with no hope of mercy, but some people were still fighting until the last breath
I have never heard how many German troops got executed by the SS but I know my great grandpa deserted and hid in a forest where the SS was searching for him and his wife had to go out there with food and a loaded pistol to give him food until he surrendered to the Americans because he was good at English.
Good
@@DaOideRassl that’s great he survived did you ever get to meet him my great grandpa was in WII he was a sapper and he and some other soldiers ambushed some Japanese soldiers the Japanese soldiers had their tanks stuck in the mud and the captured the tank they all carved they’re name into the tank it is in the Australian war museum now but it’s in the storage room sadly
He survived but I never met him
(Edit: thanks for the likes )
I read a lot about WW2 the germans we’re strong as hell
@Arizona my grandfather make bread :)
"I can't believe he didn't cry during Titanic."
"Do men even have feelings?"
Men:
How many times do you copy and paste directly from Reddit and into RUclips comments sections?
You saw this heartbreaking scenes and this is the only thing you could come up with
@@rhodesianwojak2550 How the fuck is this from reddit
@@travisbickle4360 think about what inhumane things the Germans did, then try and cry for them, leaving the ones who endured the suffering from the Germans cold hearted.
thought exactly the same
"It's over peter" Those were the last words of our beloved man "KERTZ"
The amercan soldiers saw the whole thinh they didn't even try to shoot Peter an Kertz only the kid damn that's hard to watch
@@gkmginger56 they knew that peter would surrended cuz he didn't have a gun and he didn't attack thel he just accepted their great loss
@@SAADBK8774 no he did he has his Luger but I think he toss it or put it away, either way, they knew he would already surrender cause he's on the open damn
@@gkmginger56 Ikr-
@@gkmginger56 bc the Americans were shooting at the other guy bc he was shooting back, they both want it to end, you can tell by the Americans yelling "JUST GIVE UP DAMNIT!"
“In the end... there will be no one left.
“We are no longer innocent...,
We are lost from this world...;
From home.
“We no longer believe in such things...
We only believe in war...”
This quote from the BF1: Apocalypse trailer perfectly sums up the Last Tiger
didnt mean to ruin the emotion but that "we are no longer innocent" my mind just read that as "we are no stranger to love" lol
i guess i got rickrolled by my brain
The most terrifying thing is thag we don't fight against monsters, we fight against human who fight for their lives
Pretty sure it was a letter written in WW1 by some general or something but I need a fact check
Battlefield 1 apocalypes word
I believe that it is from All Quiet on the Western Front by Erik Maria Remarque.
This story was one my favs and this part in the story gave me goosebumps, tremendous storytelling on Dices part
Yeah
Lol , 2 penguins from 2 different political ideologies 😂
@@rooseveltingudam6354 we just need the facist pinguin now
Didn’t they sell this story as an add-on?
@@dannylojkovic5205 no? BFV DLC’s were free
This scene reminded me of this quote.
"The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human."
-Aldous Huxley
It’s sad because it’s true, hell one of the nazi commanders in charge of the battle of Berlin went against his orders and turned it into a rescue operation to save as many civilians as he could so they could surrender to the west because he knew the Russians weren’t gonna show much mercy.
Do you mind if I quote that in a history essay? That’s a really good quote
@@romanharding8352 Sure, it's not mine. It's from Aldous Huxley. I definitely think more people should hear it.
well you know, when the country you're referring to has done nothing but start a global conflict the destroyed other people's homes, ruined a chance at people being individuals, killed swaths of people to where it would keep the morticians busy for years to come, it's pretty fucking hard to look at them and go "where were the good ones in this fight?" I'm very well aware of how not all of them were Nazi's, but people who keep saying stupid shit like "history is written by the victors" or "they will never tell this/these stories/story for xyz reasons" have a great tendency to forget what the warmongering nations had done to where it doesn't surprise me that there'll never be an influx of stories/representation for them to sift through the trash heap of fanatics that did start the war, that spilt the blood of millions. Granted, if we don't look at our former enemy in a different light, we'll also forget how they too were victims of evil seducing them. that i do understand. but i still don't blame many for not jumping at the idea of trying to showcase to the world that our former enemies weren't dotted with blood thirsty fanatics.
I don't care what anyone says if battlefield is good or bad, one thing we can all agree is that it is beautiful from WW1 apocalypse to the sands of Iwo jima, from falling skyscrapers and frosty mountains. I will never forget it
Wait is this battlefield?
@@Beanosexe yeah its a campaign mission from battlefield 5
This is call of duty wwII
@@gavynmantilla4722 no it’s battlefield
@@gavynmantilla4722 COD WWII was so bad it tried to deceive people this game is their's
It's always interesting to see the views of Germans at the end of the war. Veterans and others seeing the futility and the brainwashed generation still fighting on
Because they are fighting for their country
@@AzukaSenseii Exactly. Many Germans, especially towards the end of the war, were fighting for Germany, not Hitler.
@@financialprofessionals yeah exactly. They saw the devastation of Germany and were scared for their own, fighting out of desperation
Brainwashed? The enemy was on the soil of the reich.
@@mobilegamereviewer.1936 They were on the soil of their homeland.
Oh my god. The sadness of that tanker realizing he had poisoned the mind of that young one. We’re all just human. Capable of both horrifying terrors and awesome truth and beauty.
"Those were YOUR words" would hit me like a ton of bricks once it would dawn on me.
He left me speechless when he said "those were _your_ words"
Oh Peter, how tragic the war was
And we never learn from history. Never. Even when the cyclical and repeating factors are OBVIOUS in the present day, we still refuse to learn until it's too late.
Poisoned? Not really, the commander just had a change of heart midway through. Now if he had kept the mentallity then yes
@@AverageAlien I assume you're talking about postmodernists aka leftist ideology
We need an entire game based off this idea/perspective. There’s a huge difference between a German soldier and a Nazi.
and half hose german soldiers were brainwashed into white supremacy
The Wehrmact committed a larger volume of war crimes than the SS, though mainly due to being a larger army than the SS.
@@aintshii7039 Hitler was definitely not a big fan of the Treaty of Versailles
@@socialNrocker that is no justification for genocide…
@@flyingsquirrel1135 I’m not talking about anything genocide, I’m only referring to a human Soldier forced to defend their country whom only has that goal at heart
I do not and will never condone the actions of the Nazi party as far as the genocide they committed
peter actually survived. The gun sound at the end when the black came up was the sound of the m3 greese gun that the americans used suggesting that it was the kid who got shot, not peter
Dayum, didnt notice
I don't think so. Listen to MP40 when the teen shoots Kertz (1:43) and listen to the gunshots at the end (3:07). So the brainwashed teen does kill Peter.
I mean he is telling us the whole story isnt he? So he has survived
@@Heitzi31 never thought about that. However, the player is never shown what happens and most automatically assume that it was Peter who was killed.
@@fortius3361 The shots from the ending were more fast than the other one so it's hard to tell
The censorship was ridiculous but Dice didn't have to do this and could've just sidelined Germany like every other WW2 game so kudos to them.
I'll admit as much as I hate what battlefield v was I give my respect to the devs for still including this, it's extremely rare to see the German perspective of the war in any capacity and with the last tiger I think they nailed it pretty damn well.
@YourRationalWorldisaCircleJerk yeah but that can make neo nazis
@YourRationalWorldisaCircleJerk could you explain to us what that truth is exactly? I'm curious as to what exactly you mean here
@@wacky3486 The truth is there were no baddies. All sides were about equally bad, and the opportunities and the severety of their situations decided what went on. Human action, from worst to best. The Germans got the blame as the loosers of the war. All sides had camps. The Sowjets used most of the German ones without pause after capture. They already had killed a higher number of people than died in the 2 WW before it even started. The Brits starved about 4 million people in India in a man-made famine though their war policies and 'priorities'. After the war the western allies used German forced labour in the millions. Not only prisoners of war were forced. The French were vindictive, letting people clear mine fields without the proper care, their government citing that about 2000 prisoners were killed monthly by that. Small numbers add up. The food situation in Europe was catastrophic in the 1940s in and after the war, you can find pictures of civilians who look like from the death camps. While
The good guy American narrative can hold some water. The pow camps of the Americans have officially the lowest numbers of deaths, but they were the shortest in existence. And they were usually really only that pow camps, not forced labour ones. In the end, there are still missing people in the low millions. Probably dead somewhere in France in a limited number and a higher one in the Sowjet Union. Like the Reich wanted to starve the Russian country side, the Allied forces had a plan to starve the germans and reorganize the land in the middle of Europe. This was a possible scenario. And it was not abondoned because of good will but because the western allies wanted Germans to be a wall against the Sowjets. The US took all the inhuman experiments findings, be it German or Japanese. Took the most scientists in. And according to now declassified documents, that they probably mistakenly didn't destroy, a lot of people continued their research on US black sides.
Well, that's about the random bits of stuff there which is kinda ignored.
It's also about time and year. In the war and right after, you had situations like stated above from France. Just put a gun to their head and let them 'clear' the mine field. Later you had volunteers for that because of good pay, the still terrible food situation, needed equipment, treatment in case of injury, and a rent to widows.
@@iwankazlow2268 I don't think you fundamentally understand why there's a narrative of the Nazis being the super evil bad guy that they're portrayed as. So I'll try to explain it as concisely as possible.
So when it comes to camps, people never really complain about Germany's pow camps, as it's pretty accurate to say that everyone's pow camps were about as awful as everyone else's. The big thing here is the concentration camps, y'know, the imprisonment of millions of Jewish citizens who were systematically and actively genocided, numbered, used for science experiments and executed for no other reason then being Jewish. This is something that is insanely well documented to an absurdist point, if you want more information on those crimes against humanity, you can always look at the Nuremburg trials.
We of course also have an ideology that was introduced by Germany which wasn't only incredibly heinous, but surprisingly stupid and incomprehensible. Good ole fascism and it's odd child, Nazism. Fascism stating that the only reason for people to live is to die for the godly power of the state, to sacrifice one's individuality and personhood for it and to take everything away from anyone who dared reject it. Just imagine the world of 1984 and you've imagined fascism. And Nazism which is basically the same thing that it's for the race and the state, of which is also entirely arbitrary because they're literally unable to tell who is and who isn't a part of the glorious Aryan race due to everyone following the ideology being unable to do anything without someone telling them. Basically just 1984 but somehow worse. While I am making fun of their ideologies, it's mostly due to how incredibly stupid they are when you do the smallest amount of research, fuck me dude they couldn't even bring themselves out of economic austerity after starting a war and genociding millions of people due to how incompetent they were. Couldn't even do that.
Regardless, as bad as some of the war crimes that were committed by the Allies were, they don't have shit on all of the incredibly fucked up shit Germany did (also consider the fact that Germany literally started the war by invading poland lmfao, even their own sources confirm they did), and we haven't even touched on everything the entirety of the axis powers did during that time. I haven't even touched on all the shit Germany did. So considering all of this, I'd say that Germany rightfully deserves it's title of the super big bad guy of ww2 and I wish more games actually went into those atrocities
We need more games of the German perspective in the war. It's something that if done right can really bring Battlefield to the top for a couple of years just like BF1
I completely agree. If you want to teach history proper you should learn about both sides of the war.
Yes not all German soldiers were horrible people some were so young and scared and they had to join and if they tried to escape they were killed
Like 1/3 of the German soldiers were forced into conscription or hanged by the neck, and those hated the SS which is why a group of Wehrmacht soldiers fought against the SS with the Americans near the end of the war to rescue French hostages. So it’d be interesting to see the point of view of a Wehrmacht solder who was forced into conscription.
So the game campaign will be like
At first, we are good but the logistics is shit
After Stalingrad, we shit
I wanted to see the end of the story, I feel it was cut short before after everyone dies in tiger I know the war still goes on for the other remaining Germans.
That ultimately was the big difference between the First and Second World Wars. There was no real German retreat in 1918. The invasion of France failed, the Kaiser knew it was all over and just surrendered. Hitler on the other hand was a madman who felt that Germany deserved to burn if it wasn’t victorious and his army was basically forced to fight to the death.
Certainly the ideology played a part, but there is another huge factor. In WW1, they knew surrender was an option. They signed an armistice and faced harsh terms, but that would be the end. For the German leaders in WW2, this was not the case. The allies demanded only unconditional surrender. No terms. Those who surrendered, especially to the Soviets, faced oblivion. For the whole German leadership, surrender meant execution, as happened at Nuremburg.
The Germans were given the choice "Surrender and die, or fight and die." Their response was only human.
The Mole, that’s a very 2021 way to look at wwll. I don’t feel like typing out a long lengthy response because I’m kinda tired. So instead I’ll just say this, I challenge you to read up on and study wwll from a German perspective. Then look back at your comment and tell me if you still agree with it.
@@program4215 the Germans should have surrendered to the Allie’s only on the condition that the Allie’s help push back the soviets, which is PRECISELY what Patton wanted to do, instead of send all the captured Axis forces to POW camps he wanted to push the soviets back who he saw as the greater threat. And he was right, and the establishment who wanted to use communism to their benefit(look at the word today) killed Patton for it. Believe nothing you read in the history books, they were written by the victors, and we lost not the Axis, but to our own governments.
Just like the Japanese
@@Rpg39_ I'm presuming by German perspective you mean what Program above you was summarising. Well as he said there were multiple factors at work and I don't doubt for a second that (at least with the Soviet advance) the Germans felt they had no choice but to fight to the death, as the Soviets had before them. Bottom line however you look at it though, is by the end of the war Hitler was clearly losing it and if anyone with a cooler head had been in charge it might have ended less bloodily.
After years of asking for a German campaign in a WW2 game we finally got one, and a damn good story it was.
Is this game cod WW2 or vanguard?
@@underworldhunter6530 this is battlefield 5.
@@Animal_veil23 ahh sorry sir
There were a lot more of games with axis tematic
@@underworldhunter6530 are you serious?
The last tiger is quite easily the best battlefield campaign ever, on par with the tank one from bf1. But I remember when I first completed the last tiger I had to take like half an hour to just sit there and be in awe at how good it was. I still get goosebumps now after doing it so many times
Same afterwards I just took a break from gaming for a few days. I don't know really why but that story was just so sad that I just couldn't keep playing for a while.
Last tiger and the friends in high places from battlefield 1 are some of the best war stories. Friends in high places had such a brilliant twist in the end
Lmfao, this campaign sucked. This game sucked
@@borris3768 Well that's your opinion mate. It was different in that it wasn't just one main campaign but honestly I think it was better. I really enjoy single player and story games so seeing not just both sides perspectives but individual perspectives aswell was just so amazing to me I think they really smashed it out of the park
@@joshbarber3931 this mission was ok. I think the reason everyone loved it was because it was different to what we used to-playing as the other side.
The Video : *show Battlefield 5*
RUclips : ah yes Call Of Duty: WWII
Oh no 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
looking for this comment
This is why a susan the gold digger shouldn't become a CEO of youtube
The person at RUclips who said this video is call of duty needs to quit
I wish more people would teach off the Axis powers perspective. There’s a lot to learn from it. More than just the teaching from the Allied side.
they are afraid of showing the allies' war crimes, that's the only reason.
I watched a long video on if the U.S. joined the axis powers, it was fascinating.
SAYS THE TROLL
The point of view in this video is fake and fantasy
Go to a doctor, you pathetic clown
@@overlord5068 man up, your daddy loves you.
Best cutscene in game history ! That shows not all German soldiers were bloodthirsty evils , good work DICE !
Die meisten wollten garnichts damit zu tun haben aber wenn man nicht ins Militär gehen wollte wurde man wegen "verrat" ins Gefängnis gebracht oder sogar schlimmer ins KZ
Sry but my english is not the yellow from the egg pls use Google translate
@@Timo_-kp9zg
@@Timo_-kp9zg facts
Except the one on the eastern front or the ones working in camps.
@@ionutbalta6607 how were the eastern front bad?
That scene was something else. Kerts realising the truth, Peter beginning to realise it, and insanely brainwashed Schroeder killing him, his humanity replaced with loyal obedience to the Reich, Peter giving up,and then the end
@Sturm Toons says the one who called himself "Sturm Toons" aight mate...
Can't Remember
Tbf to this Sturm guy, the US-UK did trade German prisoners to the soviets as part of a series of prisoner exchange deals in 1945.
There still is a big hole in his argument though.
The USSR mostly took prisoners that served mostly in the east front but was captured in the west front. This way, they can judge those POWs for their actions in the eastern front where they mostly served rather than the western front where their combat action was minimal.
Peter, the commander of the tiger tank in this story, never served in the eastern front however since he only served in N. Africa and the western front. Thus, the Soviets would have little interest to inflict a reprisal sentence on him because they never even saw him in combat. It wouldnt make sense for the Soviets to write down tons of paperwork, set up a plane in Berlin and create a new extensive court trial just to send a guy they barely know about to a gulag.
@Sturm Toons strum toons clearly shows that you are German, or have a liking to German culture. “Strum” especially shows that you are interested in ww2 and all your other comments show that you are a obvious nazi sympathizer. Please use your brain for more useful things
@Sturm Toons Friends with fucking StoneToss. Tell me you're a Nazi without telling me you're a Nazi
@Sturm Toons Lets just all agree that committed war crimes( Because they did, even the Americans) And go on with our day
This story was seriously the best thing about Battlefield V.
Not really. Stupidly unrealistic mission
@@borris3768 it's more about the message from the Germans perspective. The mission itself was not amazing, but the dialogue was.
@@borris3768 Stupidly unrealistic? You know understand that it's a video game right? The purpose of the campaign wasn't to be realistic.
@@borris3768 hahaha. You think anyone cared about the mission? It's about the cut scenes. The Tiger tanks were insanely powerful though, btw
@@VanquishedAgain those tiger tanks would have been destroyed in the first 10 minutes
For a game that mainly got shitted on for its goofy ass multiplayer, this was really good
It has a great multiplayer
@@_-ghostfps-_8651 No, it really didn't.
@@Jaimyoutubing not that bad of a game at all, launch was dreadful though
@@_-ghostfps-_8651 it has horrible multiplayer
@@_-ghostfps-_8651 ikr
Dice definitely had a completely different team of writers working on The Last Tiger because they absolutely nailed that war story and the rest were a bit meh
I really like them all. This was my favourite along with the Norwegian story.
@@pja8901 I liked the Norwegian story a lot, too. Thought she was badass and it was fun skiing around and mowing down Nazis with an MP40
@@thatangrygerman2076 The Norwegian story is a spit in the face of the real people it was based on.
@@TechnoMinarchist imagine taking a Battlefield game this seriously. Judging by your logic all BF games spit in the face of the people who went through this in real life.
@@thatangrygerman2076 The Norwegian story is based on a real story where real men lost their lives and they chose to replace them with a woman for a political agenda.
The Last Tiger was such a great War Story
Yes in terms of Story it was so damm good.But in terms of gameplay it's just One Tiger tank against 100Shermans.Other than that it's pretty good
Yes a war story
Why can't they make a full blown campaign
Not some short 2hr shit of amazing storytelling but stupid gameplay
@@ChandranPrema123 like the Germans said "One German tank can kill 20 American Tanks, but the Americans always had 21." but in this case it's 100 tanks but they always had 200.
@Sturm Toons that's just partly true. Look up the M4A3 E8 "Easy Eight" Sherman 👍🏼
@Sturm Toons you mean the M4A1, but both are Shermans nonetheless
The pain in the Kertz’s voice and the look on the commander’s face when they realized they was on the wrong side
naw they were on the right side
They were not on the wrong or right side. They were on the losing side, and it is completely pointless to keep fighting and waste more innocent lives.
@@darnit1944 naw they were on the right side
@@uhhyeacoolman2786 Im not going to answer any further. Your opinion is yours.
@@darnit1944 lol k
This and the story from BF1 about Black Bess were my favorites. "She likes it when you swear, boy!"
There is something endearing with the comradship of tank crews.
the one with Lawrence was good too
I don't care what people say about BFV but the shit they did in this game was amazing. Never in a COD would a cutscene make you feel it to your core like this. Regardless of the ratings, this scene alone makes battlefield what it is, amazing.
the multiplayer is still shit thou
@@jayy7842 better than cod no matter what.
@@jayy7842 say what you want, but multiplayer BFV still held as the best of the best graphic and visual near photorealistic game to this date.
@@tommythetemplar yup, COD always dead game after 7 month of release while BFV to this date as most failed game still had many decent player lolz heck even to this date BF3 & 4 still populated while COD 4, 2, 3 and even ghost are near dead game
CoD does better stories
The end of this campaign made me cry.... :(
Edit: Wtf is this reply section.
@@krystiano1545 Weard thing to say but ok
@@krystiano1545 if you're polish you have no rights to talk
@@krystiano1545 Germany lost and is still so much more relevant and stronger than your disgusting country
@@schemsch_1692 yea this dude was a b**ch but ya don't have to diss Poland like that. They legit had the most dangerous Cavalry soldiers in history
@@krystiano1545 Fucking Poland…
Now this campaign, as a history nerd, I loved to the end, it was perfect!, no alter in history, telling how a soldier feels when the end is nigh
It is altered history, as this army was under a different flag.
Look at that one snow mission. That one is just straight altered really bad.
@@kaziqta5053 yeah the censorship is ridiculous
this story made me cry and hit my soul deep. i had goosebumps and tears In my eyes
It’s nice to here peters somewhat realistic dialogue about how he did things he regrets and how he wished to protect his crew
3:03 when the Medal of Honor Theme comes in it is just beautiful, and Sad
That's not the medal of honor theme?
“Just give up dammit” best quote by US soldier
Imagine if this campaign was more than a half baked set of tutorials.
Liggopammanuttez
For me, Peter didn't die. The allies shot his comrade because he was still armed. "Happy end" yay. Peter survived wowowowowo
I wish it was like that 😔
And Kurtz not die, he got medical from ally medic and survive with Peter, but unfortunatelly they being war prisoner
@Tageslicht exactly, whatever the ending is, Its gonna be sad ending anyway, they all in the middle of war duh
A guy in the comments said that the sound the 2 shots Made were actually from a grease gun, heard it a couple of times and i think he's roght
No,you have made it worse for Peter. Now hes living in agony of his lost comrades
If the entire damn game just focused on german side, this would've been a major success
Mabye, mabye not. You have to be really careful when the doing the Germans in ww2
@@karsten3360 yes because who owns the media? The fucking @@@
@@Hoang-88 no not because that
its because a huge amount of german history at that time includes war crimes and other terrible things
@@karsten3360 it seems like you are not aware about how story campaign are being delivered in BFV, the prologue and the last tigers are not full blown campaign, they took some inspiration cut off the political crap put it in the game. Yes Germany committed war crimes but not all. We could go all day talking about those individual or units that didn't commit wars crimes. The point is they were able to pull Off 2 german side stories and it's good, the idea was to focus on one soldiers perspective it doesn't Matter if you can see them as a hero or not , it's just their story on one particular scenario
@@karsten3360 “huge amount of war crimes by the germans”
Soviet raping of women from captured territories, Americans killing surrendering Germans, Japanese killing American, British, New Zealand, Australian and Asian medics would like to have a word with you
Every single time, I get goose bumps seeing this.The music, the dialogues, everything in this scene is perfect.
*Me trying to explain to people that most soldiers on the Axis side were not cartoon evils.*
The guys listening to me: 2:07
It's so hard to take someone seriously when they think every German soldier was a horrible Nazi. In there mind they were fighting for their country against countries that were threatening its existence
@@wisemonke194 Sadly, from my experience, the people you described are the vast majority
Like the tirailleur said in that one war story “not everything written down is true and not everything true is written down” -deme cisse
Atesz222 the regular German soldier was not different to the regular american soldier. There are always extremes but most of them just fought because they had to.
@@wallace3930 Alright the Wehraboo rhetoric here is pissing me off a little. Statistically, most German soldiers on the Eastern Front where caught up in war crimes of some kind. Early in the war many joined the Wehrmacht voluntarily, non conscripted, in spite of the clear propaganda used by the Nazi regime. This makes them awful people regardless if they commited war crimes or not, the the fact they enlisted for an army that was genociding entire races of people. For those who were forced to fight, who had to serve on the frontlines, but didn’t want to, fine, they have my sympathy. For all the other German soldiers though, they can rot in hell.
This reminds me of my grandfather in the GDR at the so called "Grenzwache" where they watched the border. It was about 10 years after the war and he was there with his friend, when a family tried to escape and he needed to shoot them... But he didn't, his friend noticed it of course and immediately reported it to the headquarters. "Luckily" my Grandfather wasn't shot, but he was sent to a concentration camp (they still existed in the GDR while Stalin reigned) and only got out thanks to Stalin dying. My Mother told me he was never the same after that. (He spoke perfectly Russian tho)
In a perfect world, Germany defeated the Soviet Union and then Hitler was succesfully assassinated in Operation Valkyrie. I really can't tell who were worse: the nazies or the commies. Props to your grandfather for having the courage to do the honorable thing despite the risk to his own well being...
@@Jaeger_89 Ah yes, in this perfect world of yours the Holocaust would have been barely the start of something bigger. Besides, of course, that Operation Valkyrie wouldn't have happened if the general saw Hitler winning.
@@Jaeger_89 In a perfect world we would not be killing ourselves for fucking ideologies and instead we would live with our loves one in peace
@@dhaz4455 a world of complete stagnation is anything but perfect
@@Jaeger_89 In a perfect world the second world war would haven't happened at all.
And the communism in Russia would haven't been the mess it was.
It hit me too hard. The end was amazing, the whole campaign was amazing. The characters that were created, whole storyline of tiger commander slowly realising that their fight does not have any point. Great job DICE.
Between Nordlys, Under no Flag and Tirailleur, The Last Tiger is my favorite: it shows the unawareness of soldier of what they were doing, the sadness and shock of raising a brainwashed monster that will shoot you in the end following the ideas YOU told him. DICE did a good job in this campaign and Tirailleur.
Yeah, I enjoyed The Last Tiger.
> unwareness of what they were doing
lol they weren’t unaware. the atrocities of the third reich were very well known.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
this was an emotional rollercoaster even without story context
Shouldn't have watched the doge version of this before the actual cinematic lmao
same
Same
"It is not about Berlin, it is not about the Reich
It's about the men, who fought for them
What peace can they expect?" -Sabaton
@Sturm Toons Anti-NS?
@Sturm Toons You clearly didn't get the point of my comment. This isn't about political justifications for hatred, it's about the children who were called upon to kill and die for rich, meth-addicted, dog killing, liars. Fuck national socialists, all my homies hate national socialists.
@@airvent6199 based
@Sturm Toons Is that a new term for minor attracted person or something?
they weren't brainwashed...they fought for the cause which is the nazi cause.
I really hate what happened to Hartmann earlier in the mission, he was just a scared helpless kid and then got killed by his own fellow soldiers for being a deserter. Peter knew what they were doing wrong and you could see it in his facial expression when he saw what they did to Hartmann.
That last mission was so awesome. Seeing those red flares falling and knowing that the Americans were calling in an air strike.
"We are stonger together, right?"
*Proceeds to shoot Peter anyways*
Surprisingly, like all other history, you can actually read about this in history books.
Cap
Cap
I wish there were more games set in world war 2 that had stories like this
There are. Cod just really saturated the market.
"Ordinary people" i can't recommend this book enough. Shows that even civilian middle aged Germans were committing war crimes even when they were given choice not to.
Yep.Almost everyone would have acted the same if they were in their shoes. Ordinary People, Machete Season, Gulag Archipelago are books that truly shows our proclivity for evil.
"Dont read history as a victim but as a perpetrator" -Jordan Peterson
@@hankhill2154 on the other hand we have example of cultures/mentalities like Poles who were first to fight Germans, went to war with childlike optimism, during war endured Holocaust, created whole underground state with army counting half milion soldiers who were fighting all over Europe, who not only helped the most Jews but even created whole organisations that had sole purpose of saving Jews. All this while the terror in occupied Poland was unlike anywhere else. Including death sentence for whole family and sometimes even neighbours, for aiding jews in any way. I understand Peterson sentiment but I think he underestimates the power of culture, and mentality which is result of it.
@@Olhor10 not gonna lie bro I just started studying world history about two months ago...twelve years of school and learned nothing but our countries history. Got any books, videos and movies to get me up to speed.
Say what u want about bfv, The Last Tiger war story alone makes it one of the best WW2 games of all time
Shame that it's the only good and memorable story in the whole game.
@@NguyenTran-mf9gj I think that's mainly because it feels the most realistic or new, the others felt like generic action story's with unremarkable characters for the most part and while the last tiger has its fair share of generic fighting, the perspective and conclusion of it rings way louder than any of the other campaigns. To me at any rate
The gameplay is dogshit though
@@julbar25 who cares, its normal gameplay
@@NguyenTran-mf9gj i would've loved to have like a 10 hours campaign with only the last tiger, to learn more about Germany's point of view. The soldiers, the generals, the citizens. That would've been a masterpiece.
Genuinely one of my favourite missions of a WW2 game. It was the first time I'd ever seen the human side of nazis shown. They were fathers and sons and many were forced to fight
Keep in mind that German soldiers weren’t the same as Nazis. Many people conflate the two, but they’re not the same.
@@capncake8837 very true, that's an important distinction to make
They weren't forced to fight. Sure, in the last few months of 45' there were drastic measures taken but alot joined voluntarily and knew the cause well. around 10 millions soviet civilians were killed during the war most killed by wehrmacht's soldier take the 6th army for example in one day it killed 30,000 soviet civilians and raped tens of thousands more.
@@capncake8837 then what are they?
@@spitfire8790 German soldiers you idiot!!!! The Nazi party was a political party, and the soldiers were simply sent out to fight for them. Do you call American soldiers "Republican soldiers," when Bush was in power? Now about being forced or not, betwen 1935-1939, 1.3 million were conscripted and 2.4 were not.
This is probably one of the best campaigns I ever played
What you don't read about in history books is that at this point, this Tank should have a children crew.
Or that the tigers never worked
I read about it. My history teacher didnt fuck around. She taught everything.
That is a good teacher
I actually teared up when Kertz met his fate. That hit different for some reason.
I love it how in the beginning it feels like your winning...but then it gets worse and worse
history never remembers when people realize they made a grave mistake . most of the time its too late by then anyways because everything you cared about is gone .
Say what you will about BFV, I never got into the multi-player, but the war stories are an underrated success.
The best thing about this is they are not speaking English with German accents
I love this too. It makes the whole campaign that much more immersive. I wish every game did it.
That's something I love about battlefield Germans speak German
Japanese speak Japanese
Englishmen speak English
And Americans speak what ever the f*** they speak but its not the Queen's English.
Yet the game has censured swastikas
The characters were very good and charismatic, i just wish it wasn't censored and actually showed that even that they were fighting for an murderous regime, they were still humans, probably not even fighting for the Führer, but fighting for survival.
international release albeit lazy if they had them uncensored it would be illegal in Germany to own and play
This is exacly what Nazipropaganda did to people. This captures it pretty well
Compare everything they said with now and see how many check marks are next to them.
not really, this campaign was quite the circle jerk for the wehrboo's. while it is good this campaign tells people that most German soldiers were innocent and it was all the SS and those who weren't innocent are brainwashed which is far from the truth. most voluntarily committed war crimes without being brainwashed and the thing is most of them are Wehrmacht's soldiers.
@@spitfire8790 what is a war crime?? did the allied air force not "voluntarily" commit war crimes when bombing the fuck out of German civilians? war is nothing but death, there is no good or bad......
@@parkerhaynes4913 'Waaaaaaaah Even Though I bombed you, you can't do the same to me!" Good, Remember Coventry. Kill them. Wanna Bomb the UK? Just don't bitch when the RAF return the favor tenfold.
@@spitfire8790 The fact that you copied this text is hillarious
The chills are still there
The men realizing their fighting on the wrong side, the young boys being brainwashed into thinking they are fighting for good, and the cold bitter stain on the lives of those who fought.
"People often forget that the first country Germany invaded was its own" - Dr. Erskine
most weren't brainwashed tho...
Ye for the most part there was no "realising that they were fighting on the wrong side". Ppl were killing themselves because of Hitler's defeat.
You getting fooled into actually believing what you just wrote.
@@derbasierte4194 ?
this whole story is based of his beginning line “no… but you were there” signifying that no peter wasn’t a nazi no peter didn’t agree with hanging deserters and no peter didn’t agree with the war, but he was there amongst them. guilty by association even tho he never did anything wrong. this was such a beautiful story about a man who was doing what he thought was right and fighting for his brothers and sisters back home, but realized he was wrong too late.
The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men to do nothing. He was an enabler, and is therefore also guilty
In my opinion this war story is even better than some campaign in cod
"Some" is a good word here because CoD has pulled some serious stories in the past. First Modern Warfare and World at War come to mind as some of the best shooters in history, with WaW being arguably one of if not THE most brutal depiction of WW2 in video games. Especialy the Eastern Front, showcasing the attrocities commited by both Germans and Soviets.
You know, when I started playing this one I expected to be fighting Soviets or something. I was surprised it was the Americans. For some reason, it almost felt relieving to see the script flipped on its head like that. And it was particularly amusing to have a better grasp on what my enemy was saying for once.
I remember playing this story while blasting panzerlied on my consoles Spotify
Average wheraboo
@@baseduser1655 with the profile to boot, man clearly has tastes
@@Lewd-Tenant_Isan cringe
Watching anime objectively makes you a bad person
"Behind every gun sight is a human being"
As a person who likes history and reads history books, i can indeed confirm that this is true
No
@@arkhammemery4712 so they were all monsters to you? If you really think that then im sorry to break it to you, but they had no other choice.
@@Syzzus You're very assuming
@@arkhammemery4712 no
@@ichiroudesu_. lmao anime
My favourite war story out of all of them. Including BF1
Great music selection. The organ is such a beautiful and powerful instrument.
I like how youtube detects it call of duty, not battlefield 5
This is why I love the battlefield series. Especially the WW1 and WW2 one. This was actually a bit heartbreaking to watch honestly even though it’s just a scene from a game, then again it’s based off a war that happened so this could have happened
it didn't happen.
Best campaign that I ever played in a WWII game.
Nice touch there ❤️ actually made me cry
I clicked on the video cos I thought from the title it was going to be a funny game breaking bug. What I got was tears and lots of empathy for humans that died during a terrible conflict
Im kinda suprised that the tier didnt broke down on its own while going uphill
But then again, it's a Henschel, not a Porsche. No, then it wouldn't have even gone for like 5 minutes until the engine broke down or burned out
The thing thats great about this is that it has an inception like ending. You have almost no idea what couldve happened. The outcome is entirely yours to decide. This is what makes a story really special.
From what I've been told, my great grandfather was one of those that fought until the end. He had volunteered for the Eastern front when all hope of holding it had already been lost and believed in the "Endsieg" until the end of the war.
I am russian but do respect your great granfather) fighting untill the dead is heroic !
@@faurtracstv715 I believe he didn't die in combat. He was captured by the Soviets (argueabely a worse fate considering how POWs were treated in the USSR)
@@Micsmit_45 "(argueabely a worse fate considering how POWs were treated in the USSR)" an entirely justifiable fate that the Germans brought on them selves for commiting millions of war crimes.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor absolutely, I would never argue that.
Oh my God! He didn't even cry during the titanic?! Do men even have feelings?
2:20
The Last Tiger have the best ending in BFV, it really show how stressful of being pushed back so hard to Berlin by the allies forces
When this story came out I was so surprised. It was so good and it was in the same game that had some of the most bullshit stories of all time.
This ending and overall story really did hit me
It’s one of the best war stories in battlefield history and I’d even say in the WW2 shooter category
Being able to see the Germans perspective for once was really cool even though everything they done
Gameplay wise…..eh it was Aight
The music really takes this to a whole new level. It’s called devastation.
My father told me that they didn't accept "losers" in war, this game was a beautiful example, simply because I did a lot of research to make this game
What I love about this scene is how it humanizes the taskmasters of fascist regimes while not holding back any criticism of the fascist system that compels them, or even of the people it humanizes. Fascism is a deeply inhuman ideology that only begets self-destruction, and this scene does an incredible job of portraying that.
This!
Well you are completely wrong. And 2nd Hitler wasn't fascist either. Literal 4iq
@@idontbelieveinthealliespro4426 Username checks out.
@@doge_ram7234 I like how people literally just read my username and refuse to give any more thought, which is ignorance. This post is a complete cope.
@@idontbelieveinthealliespro4426 go ahead and explain your reasoning then, I'm genuinely interested in how you think fascism is in any way humane or moral.
finally a ww2 game where you can play as the good guys
*Oh no.*
@Videoms those are the baddies
This game has the best music ever and you cant change my mind. The immersion of starting a match of twisted steel and hearing the begging of round music is so good.