This means a lot to me... it is great to see Ashkenazy performing this darkest, loneliest, apparently unluckiest of the Sonatas, with no obvious ill effects. What an incredible imagination lay behind these harmonies, and what sort of experiences or memories were being manifested/exorcised here? Vlad is absolutely onto it all. Thank you for making my evening by posting this.
I really want to enjoy music like this, because it’s so dynamic, but it’s also very slippery and amorphous, like it’s defying any attempt to make sense of it. A structureless story, a jumble of colors…it’s the ultimate in chaos.
The piano does not give up its secrets easily! I'm learning this for the second time...still haven't got it. I keep looking forward to the day it really makes sense and will be as easy to play as a Mozart sonata...I know it will someday. There's no hurry....just be patient.
Scriabin’s Sonatas are every bit as organized and logical as classical sonatas. It’s just that the material seems elusive, sinuous, amorphous… but it’s not. Sonata 6 is probably the most complex and difficult to understand, but well worth many listenings and study to really get into Scriabin’s esthetic and mentality!
@bill Bloggs Yes. I think Hamelin is actually the greatest pianist, since Liszt. But I prefer Ashkenazy to all others for this Sonata.... It's just a feeling, it needs to be ultra urgent and terrifying.
SCRIABIN point blank refused to play this sonata all the way through, citing mysterious forces or a jinx. Having listened to this performance by Ashkenazy, I can see why. Utterly transfixing.
Quotes by Scriabin on the subject (I asked AI): "I have never been so terrified by my own music before. It is nightmarish, murky, unclean and mischievous." "I feel as if I am playing with the devil." "I am afraid to play it in public. I do not want to unleash this demon on the world."
ruclips.net/video/ofLqtG6xNCI/видео.html this one is even worse in terms of complexity and lenght. If you want to take a look at the sheet music, visit this link ruclips.net/video/AhqkJ33Wpf8/видео.html
sounds pastiche ... not dark. bc. enormous number of quotes to Debussy's Isle of the Dead, and Ravel's Scarbo, and maybe 10:45 ? inspired Cziffra's transcription of RimskyKorsakov's BumbleBee ruclips.net/video/_4ous8bo990/видео.html (
Dude, first of all, this piece is written in 1911, Cziffra wasnt even born when this published. About the Debussy's isle of the dead (???? I hope you mean L'isle Joyeuse) I didn't hear any inspiration or quotes from it. Also for the Scarbo, I think you are the only one "noticed" it.
![Scriabin - Piano Concerto in F sharp minor, op. 20 (Vladimir Ashkenazy/Maazel) [Complete]](/img/1.gif)
i'm gonna play this down the pub
This means a lot to me... it is great to see Ashkenazy performing this darkest, loneliest, apparently unluckiest of the Sonatas, with no obvious ill effects. What an incredible imagination lay behind these harmonies, and what sort of experiences or memories were being manifested/exorcised here? Vlad is absolutely onto it all. Thank you for making my evening by posting this.
He looks a little dizzy at the end !
Scriabin was a singular force. An original musical conception that stands alone. Ashkenazy plays this so beautifully.
There is Szymanowski, perhaps the only composer to compose on the same style and even develop it.
Sebastian-Benedict Flore also the composer Nikolai Roslavets
Szymanowski composed similarly in terms of texture, very impressionistic, however his harmony is really different, it mostly consists on bitonality
Ashkenazy perfectly enters into the mystique of Scriabin's dark and complex writing.
Thank you for your comment!
This performance is from 1985.
This is spectacular. Thanks so much for sharing.
What a find this is... I never even knew Ashkenazy performed Scriabin sonatas in recital. I thought they were strictly done in the studio.
I really want to enjoy music like this, because it’s so dynamic, but it’s also very slippery and amorphous, like it’s defying any attempt to make sense of it. A structureless story, a jumble of colors…it’s the ultimate in chaos.
The piano does not give up its secrets easily! I'm learning this for the second time...still haven't got it. I keep looking forward to the day it really makes sense and will be as easy to play as a Mozart sonata...I know it will someday. There's no hurry....just be patient.
The more you listen to it you pick up on the harmonies and nuances.
Scriabin’s Sonatas are every bit as organized and logical as classical sonatas. It’s just that the material seems elusive, sinuous, amorphous… but it’s not. Sonata 6 is probably the most complex and difficult to understand, but well worth many listenings and study to really get into Scriabin’s esthetic and mentality!
wonderful & cool...... thanks for posting
Ashkenazy's 6th is the one to pick, in a list of top ten Scriabin sonatas. The coda is unbelievable, hyper-intense, not equalled even by Hamelin.
I love the Richter version even more
@bill Bloggs Yes. I think Hamelin is actually the greatest pianist, since Liszt.
But I prefer Ashkenazy to all others for this Sonata.... It's just a feeling, it needs to be ultra urgent and terrifying.
Richter also does a good performance in this sonata ^^
Otherwise known as “ode to the dominant seventh chord”.
Hahaha
When you practice or play through this sonata you get the weird impression that the music is stalking you.
What an eerie experience, I might try to learn this sonata in the future (If I get the courage to do so)
SCRIABIN point blank refused to play this sonata all the way through, citing mysterious forces or a jinx. Having listened to this performance by Ashkenazy, I can see why. Utterly transfixing.
Quotes by Scriabin on the subject (I asked AI): "I have never been so terrified by my own music before. It is nightmarish, murky, unclean and mischievous."
"I feel as if I am playing with the devil."
"I am afraid to play it in public. I do not want to unleash this demon on the world."
a beautifully committed musician. I was completely unaware this video existed, thank you, do you know what year this performance is from?
He plays it just right ughhh
This electric sound is too scary
It's sounds a lot better than his sterile Decca studio recordings.
Who's here from top 10's?
Veronica Solorzano me
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How does one even remember this note for note??? Just the looks is it is scary
ruclips.net/video/ofLqtG6xNCI/видео.html this one is even worse in terms of complexity and lenght. If you want to take a look at the sheet music, visit this link ruclips.net/video/AhqkJ33Wpf8/видео.html
Muscle memory that comes from rigorous practicing
@@karl.t.d.ear before all...
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sounds pastiche ... not dark. bc. enormous number of quotes to Debussy's Isle of the Dead, and Ravel's Scarbo, and maybe 10:45 ? inspired Cziffra's transcription of RimskyKorsakov's BumbleBee ruclips.net/video/_4ous8bo990/видео.html (
Dude, first of all, this piece is written in 1911, Cziffra wasnt even born when this published. About the Debussy's isle of the dead (???? I hope you mean L'isle Joyeuse) I didn't hear any inspiration or quotes from it. Also for the Scarbo, I think you are the only one "noticed" it.
I noticed that approximately two hours after the audience left, Scriabian totally plagiarized "4'33"... That man really had no genius at all...
Totally original; no "quotes."
"I'm a guy." -quoted from a statement from my dad
He confused dance of the dead and isle of joy but we're supposed to listen to his opinion?
I'm unimpressed.
You are very impressed