Rolex Submariner or Omega Seamaster Professional?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @caktaylor
    @caktaylor 5 месяцев назад +61

    Excellent choice. Even if the Submariner were available and was the same price, I would still pick the Seamaster.

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 5 месяцев назад +3

      Do you have a Seamaster?

    • @rustydrog
      @rustydrog 5 месяцев назад +2

      Ha. No. You wouldn't.

    • @caktaylor
      @caktaylor 4 месяца назад +4

      @@rustydrog Perhaps you’re right. But I didn’t buy the Submariner when I had the opportunity to buy one (below MSRP before everything got crazy) and didn’t because I don’t think it’s a very good looking watch. The only thing appealing was the name on the dial. I do however own a Seamaster Professional.

    • @lordhumungous7908
      @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад

      @@SaintWill70 Haha, here you are again!

    • @CodyVella
      @CodyVella 4 месяца назад

      @@rustydrogI did

  • @hendrikmarais9092
    @hendrikmarais9092 5 месяцев назад +14

    The Seamaster is almost exclusively the only other diver that still has it’s own DNA, where everything else is basically just a Submariner homage.
    What’s more, I bought the black dial Seamaster and Tudor Black Bay Bronze for the same price that I would have paid for a vintage 16610 sub.
    No brainer, as long as you don’t allow the Rolex marketing team to live rent free in your head.

    • @lordhumungous7908
      @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад

      @@SaintWill70 You're all over these comments, haha. What's your agenda? Why are are so passionate about trashing the SMP in flavour of Rolex?

    • @AZadeh-nd8vx
      @AZadeh-nd8vx 2 месяца назад

      Lol I think you mean if you can live with the fact that you don't have a Submariner living rent free in your head! 😅
      I own bith these watches and the Goldeneye Quartz 300m. Every time I put the new Seamaster on I miss the Sub. Will probably sell the new one and keep the Goldeneye as it wears so much better

  • @Hitman4seven-zv1pu
    @Hitman4seven-zv1pu 5 месяцев назад +7

    The SMP300 is my first luxury watch and i love it. I have to admit the Sub is timeless, more versatile and elegant.
    The Omega has great wrist presence and has great specs.

  • @jgkg
    @jgkg 5 месяцев назад +6

    Both great watches. I wore a Sub yesterday and a Seamaster today, but the Sub wins for me, just feels different, iconic, wears the best, bezel, glide lock and the look for me, if I had to keep one, the sub all day.

  • @scollyutube
    @scollyutube 5 месяцев назад +9

    Both, they are different enough to own. Pelegos for the most comfortable alternative too.
    My Sub is more accurate than my SMP but Omega has the better lume.

  • @Nick-im3ym
    @Nick-im3ym 5 месяцев назад +22

    I’ve had my blue seamaster 300 for two years. Daily wearer, absolutely love it and keeps perfect time. In the two years I’ve owned it I haven’t seen one on someone else’s wrist, however I see Rolex submariners all the time. It’s funny how the watch that is “so exclusive” is the most common watch out in the wild. Just my two cents

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад +1

      SEAMASTER 🔥🔥🔥

    • @lordhumungous7908
      @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад

      @@SaintWill70 Dude, you're trolling hard on every comment.

    • @Nick-im3ym
      @Nick-im3ym 4 месяца назад

      @@SaintWill70 do the dogs wear them on their paws or their collars? Just wondering, as an omega owner I guess I need to put one on my dog too.

    • @patrickjean-philippe7679
      @patrickjean-philippe7679 3 месяца назад

      Rolex are plenty in the wild. I prefer other brands which are more exclusive in the wild… I have an Omega Seamaster NTTD, it’s great 😊 I did try a Rolex Submariner but I found it clunky and fairly heavy so I don’t think I’d ever buy one unless they were doing a light one in titanium…

    • @myronas
      @myronas Месяц назад

      How many of those subs out there are fakes? No-one knows.

  • @angelacosta466
    @angelacosta466 5 месяцев назад +7

    It’s a great choice, I own that Seamaster model and it works great. It’s my daily. It’s definitely better than a Rolex. I went into the store, gave them the money and walked out with the Seamaster. No AD games, just pay for the watch. Didn’t have to buy things I didn’t want to qualify to buy it.

    • @nhbmk
      @nhbmk 5 месяцев назад +3

      Agree, the buying experience is far superior.

  • @frankygamaliano7058
    @frankygamaliano7058 5 месяцев назад +3

    I have submariner and have been eyeing for white dial Seamaster diver 300 for sometimes. I hesitated due to the size, finally traded my panerai for black dial Seamaster and couldn’t be happier. It fits my 6.3” wrist better than my sub. The bracelet is indeed heavy and clasp is larger than I’d like and certainly makes you feel aware you’re wearing a heavy watch but I still like it. I also add short rubber strap when I get bored of the bracelet. I certainly wear my Seamaster more frequently than my sub.

  • @PhilipRichard-u6h
    @PhilipRichard-u6h 5 месяцев назад +3

    Wore a sub as my daily driver for 11 years, and recently received the SMP 300 Summer Blue as a gift from my girlfriend. I prefer the Omega to the sub, and it has become my go-to watch. I'm going to go against popular opinion and say that I love the fact that the bracelet doesn't taper. Like you said in the video, it gives the watch a more aggressive look. I have found it to be a very comfortable bracelet. Unlike Rolex, Omega also offers various strap options. I also have the rubber strap with deployant clasp. I'm indifferent about the helium escape valve. The Omega is also much less likely to attract unwanted attention from thieves. Quite honestly, between Omega and Tudor, I'll probably never own another Rolex again.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад

      You are not going against the popular opinion about the BRACELET. Only TUDOR fanboys and social media content creators who are on TUDORs payroll think the bracelet needs to be tapered 😂😂😂😂 BRACELET IS ICONIC. LEAVE IT ALONE 😊

  • @marcorigali8843
    @marcorigali8843 5 месяцев назад +13

    I have both and love them equally although the Omega is probably the best looking (mine is white dial, black bezel)

  • @TheBrah808
    @TheBrah808 5 месяцев назад +6

    Seamaster! The dial is something else

  • @mikehiggins4079
    @mikehiggins4079 5 месяцев назад +6

    The Seamaster all day every day.
    The nearest you get to Helium Escape is from the balloons on your birthday

  • @niqpw
    @niqpw 5 месяцев назад +8

    I like your reviews - honest opinions, great video quality and editing, clear audio, childish humour and unlike some other watch reviewers videos, the perfect length (which is coincidentally what your Mum said the other night) 😉

  • @MrPleers
    @MrPleers 5 месяцев назад +8

    Seamaster. As cool as the Submariner is. The overkill of text on the dial completely ruins it for me.

    • @lordhumungous7908
      @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад

      @@SaintWill70 I can easily afford a Sub and have both. What are you? A gansta rappa money flex dude?

    • @ALL-il1sw
      @ALL-il1sw 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lordhumungous7908not every Rolex fan is a douche, but every douche is a Rolex fan

  • @scoutandscooter
    @scoutandscooter 5 месяцев назад +3

    My wife bought me an Omega 007 as a birthday present. I never wore a watch other than a Timex Ironman for training. Funny, I'm retired and dress pretty much like a bum, but people still comment on the watch.

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 5 месяцев назад +6

    100% Seamaster all day. Now for me, it’s Watchdives version, but Omega all the way! Thanks!

  • @magna750
    @magna750 5 месяцев назад +9

    I love Rolex AND Omega. But in this instance, Omega has the best technology and the best price. Those co-axial movements are at least a generation ahead of the 3135. The Sub is a great watch, but kind of boring. On another note; ultra fine Scotch-Brite (if applied carefully) can removes those scuffs on that clasp.

    • @DanielDahl-i9p
      @DanielDahl-i9p 5 месяцев назад +2

      Rlex updated the 3125 several years ago to the 3225.
      Better accuaracy and doubled the power reserve

    • @tudorserban111
      @tudorserban111 5 месяцев назад

      @@DanielDahl-i9p *3235

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@DanielDahl-i9pSuch a shame you can’t spell. WTF is accuaracy? 🤦🏻

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@DanielDahl-i9pPity evolution didn’t double your brain cells. What on earth is accuaracy?

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@IrishScribblerThe superlative standard is literally plus 2 minus 2 a day whereas the METAS is 0 to plus 5. It’s a second better than the Omega lol

  • @denis888red
    @denis888red 5 месяцев назад +15

    I own both of these watches. (Well, the 16610 and a 3rd gen Seamaster). I had the Sub serviced by Rolex in Jan while the 2103 Seamaster has never been serviced, yet the Seamaster keeps better time. I reckon that's down to the George Daniels Coaxial Escapement. Genius. I also find the Seamaster just that bit more interesting visually. The Sub has just become so homaged (to put it very kindly). And the other and perhaps biggest hoo-ha is I find myself having to be 'aware' when I wear it and really, who really needs that? I also own a blue BB58, which while perhaps not as good is a very cool shout for the money.
    P.S. One of the things I like best is that the bracelet doesn't actually taper. You can spot a Seamaster on the far side of a room and in these days of samey watch styles, anything that stands out and has it's own gig is a big plus for me.

    • @sevbhatti5517
      @sevbhatti5517 5 месяцев назад +2

      Totally agree!! I love the helium escapement value too, it’s these features that make it so iconic. In my opinion of course.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад +2

      I agree and I love everything about the SEAMASTER INCLUDING THE BRACELET 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @lordhumungous7908
      @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад +1

      I own both, too. (Well, 14060m). And the Seamaster is just so stunning to look at. The Submariner looks classic but plain in comparison. Of course I love them both, though.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 4 месяца назад

      @@lordhumungous7908 SEAMASTER is a GOAT WATCH🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @denis888red
      @denis888red 4 месяца назад +2

      @@SaintWill70 I own both (and an OP) but bet dollars to doughnuts you almost certainly don't. Watching RUclips videos is not the same experience of hands-on wear. They are both great watches but... Timekeeping? No comparison. The Omega is better. Movement? Co axial v 3135. The Omega is better. I'll grant you the Rolex bracelet is 'probably' better and Rolex is certainly good when is comes to spending their punters money on major cache sporting events...;) Visually? Personal choice. But I certainly prefer the look of the Seamaster. And finally..... One thing I absolutely can guarantee.... If I'm sitting at a bar with a bloke on either side wearing one and the other, I know which guy is FAR more likely to know what he's talking about rather than be a dilletante giving it the 'big I am'. One cost 9,000 and the other 5,600.. Certainly in terms of bang for buck there really is no comparison

  • @stephanboxall4541
    @stephanboxall4541 Месяц назад

    Nice review, but I wish that these comparisons excluded purchase availability and the price, and just focused on the watch features and functionality.

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. 5 месяцев назад +6

    Mate: I'll make it short: correct answer!! I got myself a Seamaster Professional by the end of last year. With its female end links it fits like a glove!

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 5 месяцев назад

      Female end links only help fit if the watch is too big for you.
      So funny sizes of Omegas get a free pass on all levels.

    • @alfieakaronaldog
      @alfieakaronaldog 5 месяцев назад +1

      The Submariner is easily the better watch, but if you prefer the SMP300 then good for you buddy.
      Better choice is a completely different thing.
      Guy on here says the Omega is the better watch……. but bought a Steeldive 🥴

    • @AlexanderB.
      @AlexanderB. 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@alfieakaronaldog On my 7 inch wrist the Seamaster fits really well

    • @AlexanderB.
      @AlexanderB. 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@alfieakaronaldog I beg to differ. What makes the Submariner a better watch than the Seamaster? It's hardly the movement. And please don't say because it's a Rolex 😀

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@AlexanderB.Sadly old Pete “Simpleton” Simpkins is a bit of lonely figure and is rather obsessed with Rolex. He’s been trying for years to convince everyone that they are wrong if they challenge his royal proclamation of the brand and everything they do. But this is a man who still allows his dog to play with his balls so I’d take his wisdom with a pinch of salt.

  • @danielpowers2413
    @danielpowers2413 5 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve owned both, and I regret selling the Seamaster. My favorite diver is my Sea-Dweller 43mm, however

  • @commentjedi
    @commentjedi 5 месяцев назад +3

    Sub in the morning.
    Seamaster in the afternoon, evening and night.

  • @leemartin2978
    @leemartin2978 5 месяцев назад +2

    I bought the Submariner (no date) 18 months ago, and love it. Tried the Omega , it’s beautiful , literally just a preference. Obviously try both on. I believe the Submariners are not that hard to get now, it’s definitely worth physically calling in to an AD and having a face to face conversation

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      I applaud you for posting what is easily the most sensible comment I’ve read on this post so far. Nice one 👌

  • @robertmcnee682
    @robertmcnee682 5 месяцев назад +5

    Seamaster for me

  • @Koishishibaman
    @Koishishibaman 5 месяцев назад +1

    I like the look of the seamaster better. Better price also. I have a newer railmaster, great daily and work watch. Just got a 2011 seamaster titanium. Real impressed by the quality!

  • @darranwatson1840
    @darranwatson1840 5 месяцев назад +1

    I bought my first seamaster back in 1996 for £950 And a coke gmt for wait for it £1850. The prices now are ridiculous

  • @imranbecks
    @imranbecks 5 месяцев назад +2

    If I got paid for every Rolex vs Omega video I come across, I'd probably be able to get myself another Omega 😅😅😅

  • @betog.6229
    @betog.6229 5 месяцев назад +2

    Funny enough, I'd get the Seamaster 300 but not the Pro. The vintage version is amazing. It's beautiful, it doesn't have the stupid helium scape valve, you can see the amazing caliber and you can actually buy it that very day. If it's between the Rolex and the Omega, I'd go Omega every single time.

  • @KAM77901
    @KAM77901 Месяц назад

    24 years ago no one wanted a sub, and everyone was screaming for an Omega Seamaster. Lots of Subs were available at the AD, whereas i had to wait for my seamaster for 2 months. Bought a sub in 2017 but still prefer my first Seamaster !

  • @mendipfox1650
    @mendipfox1650 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Seamaster is a wonderful watch. I have a 9900 chronograph variant. Beautiful. I also have a Railmaster Denim Blue. These more than scratch my dive watch/field watch itch. The reality is, the Sub whilst classic, is massively overpriced for what it is. I would avoid, and try and get a GMT Master II instead @ retail to scratch that Rolex itch. I appreciate, easier said than done, but the market is changing. 👍🏻

  • @frankmirandosr875
    @frankmirandosr875 2 месяца назад +1

    I have Not Owned a Submariner, I have Tried one on at a AD several years ago , I bought a Ulysses Nardin Diver Instead of the Sub, I just Purchased This Seamaster with the white dial and I truly Blown away on how Beautiful it is , I have a large collection of Watchs and this piece is one of my Favorites! I pick Omega Diver Over the Rolex for Many reasons. Just a Stunning Watch. 😊

  • @davidhoeppner8346
    @davidhoeppner8346 3 месяца назад +1

    The challenge honestly is if it’s a sub you want and this was a long time goal this will not scratch that itch I promise …. I have both I bought the 300 first.

  • @gavinwhite9743
    @gavinwhite9743 5 месяцев назад +1

    Omega Ads are offering healthy discounts (20%) off list price, making 2nd hand prices not quite the deal they appear on the surface. I got my Seamaster No time to die for only £500-£1000 more than second hand. However, prices on this particularly watch are too high to start with, and are crashing relatively🙈 I own a sub too, but the old 5 digit reference. In fairness, I think they are very different watches and both are lovely to wear. The seamaster makes more of a statement for sure, although Rolex is more recognised by Muggles( non watch enthusiasts ) Id be surprised if you were unhappy with either.

  • @WaterJake
    @WaterJake 3 месяца назад +1

    I've long gone back and forth on this, but am firmly back on the Submariner side. I love all the different options available with the SMP300, but the Submariner wins on so many levels it's hard argue otherwise.
    The Omega has the price advantage, and the accessibility advantage.
    But if you can get the Sub, it is better sized, much thinner, better movement, better bezel, far better bracelet and clasp. Looks are also subjective, but the Sub is also a design icon that the SMP300 is (loosely) based on. And it doesn't have the awful helium escape value and obnoxious marketing.
    Overall, it is a matter of preference and price of course, but the Sub wins it for me.

  • @lordhumungous7908
    @lordhumungous7908 4 месяца назад

    I've seen lots of Sub vs SMP videos. In Australia, the price difference is not as much as I'm hearing in the international watch community.

  • @willsmeg1967
    @willsmeg1967 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve the white version of this and the new summer blue version also, I’ve a sea dweller 4000 and it’s a beautiful timepiece but
    Seamaster all day long.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад +1

      SEAMASTER 🔥🔥🔥

  • @robertfeast7691
    @robertfeast7691 5 месяцев назад +2

    Not a dive watch fan but, I love the Seamaster. The design and the co axial movement sell it to me. The Submariner just looks like any other generic diver. That's not the fault of Rolex but that it's been copied by every man and his dog. Although I have to say I'm slightly put of by Rolex as a brand.

  • @AZadeh-nd8vx
    @AZadeh-nd8vx 2 месяца назад

    I own both these exact watches and also an older "Bond" Seamaster 300m. Hace to say i completely disagree. The Sub gets all the wrist time and feel so much more premium. It also gets way more noticed and mentioned (nit that i care). I much prefer the older Seamaster 300m, its much better proportioned and just feels better on the wrist.
    If you can afford a Sub especially at retail, get the Sub. If you can't, then get the Seamaster. Or ideally, if you can afford both get both!

  • @manfred2434
    @manfred2434 4 месяца назад

    Glass base vs. metal lid
    Even if I give in to the nostalgic arguments in favor of a mechanical watch, I also want to be able to see the “magic of mechanics”.
    A look through the glass base provides an insight into the inner workings - with subtle to open-hearted clock designs. One of the most beautiful moments for watch enthusiasts is to look at the clockwork at work through the display back.
    It is all the more surprising that manufacturers like Rolex install a tasteless metal lid instead of a display back.
    To this day, the Rolex Group “defends” itself vehemently against the use of glass backs: there is (almost) no model at Rolex or its subsidiary Tudor that has more than a plain steel back.
    There is a lot of manual work behind the timepieces and it's just a shame if watch enthusiasts never get to see these little works of art.
    This is perhaps because the Rolex calibers are not among the most beautiful in the watch market and Rolex does not want to invest anything in beautifying its calibers.
    A steel floor is cheaper to produce because a viewing window requires a significant increase in precision in production, for example for the seals and the glass.
    Just the idea of ​​knowing that a mechanical caliber is built in isn't enough for me personally, I want to be able to see it at work. Without a visible back, it doesn't matter to me which caliber is installed, I can't see it!
    I praise the display backs of my Omega Planet Ocean GMT 600M or my Breitling Navitimer B01, it's always a feast for the eyes to watch the caliber at work.

  • @thomascole9308
    @thomascole9308 5 месяцев назад

    I’ve had two sea masters and wore them daily, so no bias. I now have a sub 41. The sub is a different league.

  • @wristopia4101
    @wristopia4101 5 месяцев назад

    Weird you mentioned list and used, but omitted to say a man man enough to wear a 42mm diver should be able to get a brand new SMP300 from a non boutique AD for at least 20% off.

  • @jtwu8931
    @jtwu8931 3 месяца назад

    I am going back to 40mm GMT2 after 41, 42, and 44mm various rolex and omega. I can’t even look at panerai without gagging.

  • @sotos21308
    @sotos21308 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love the submariner date. Better dimensions for my wrist.

  • @seanhickling7340
    @seanhickling7340 5 месяцев назад +6

    I'm definitely not a dive watch nut job like most people appear to be but out of those two I do prefer the Sub. Saying that, I'd rather have the Fifty Fathoms.

  • @andrewm9669
    @andrewm9669 5 месяцев назад

    The movement looks great, the wave dial, the anti reflection, oem strap options, the different colour lume... these all make the watch fantastic. The submariner is still the only choice though.

  • @margaretmula1315
    @margaretmula1315 2 месяца назад

    Seamaster in blue on bracelet gets my vote.

  • @theadventuresofwolf5.77
    @theadventuresofwolf5.77 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have both. The seamaster is the better watch. I'm selling the sub I'm over it and I hardly wear it

  • @filipstevanovic6383
    @filipstevanovic6383 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you want to suprise other - buy Rolex
    If you want to suprise yourself - buy Omega

  • @josepauloneuparthvieirafer4449
    @josepauloneuparthvieirafer4449 4 месяца назад

    I got a Sub recently in a shop by the official retailer So it is possible. I am an old client I bought a few watches (not Rolex) by them, so I took some primacy. I don't negotiate in watches, I don't flip watches so I got mine.
    I don't see the Seamaster as an option to a Submariner. The only think you get is you get a new watch, but not your Grail watch. And after a while you realize that it was the Sub you always wanted. And you've spend your money.
    So the only way you'll find yourself happy with a Seamaster is if the Seamaster is indeed your Grail watch.
    For me it was never an option. The only Omega I'm into is the Speedy.
    Greetings

  • @Spit87
    @Spit87 5 месяцев назад

    Any chance Omega would consider bringing out a more modern, thinner/slightly less chunky Seamaster in a 38-39mm size ala BB58? That thing would break the Internet surely

  • @navegandolejanooriente6268
    @navegandolejanooriente6268 5 месяцев назад

    Glad you like your Seamaster, they are incredible watches but for me their isn't comparison anymore. Rolex wins hands down and it's not because it's a better watch. The increase in size and weight on the Seamaster just gives me wrist fatigue after wearing it all day vs the Submariner, despite the 150 some odd grams, I barely notice it on the wrist. I would get another Seamaster in a second if it had the old dimensions and weight with the new tech of ceramic and co-axial movement.

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  5 месяцев назад +1

      Great shout! I would like that too 👌🏻but it’s not my Seamaster - I just borrowed it for a month or so!

  • @8544tom
    @8544tom 4 месяца назад +2

    Always Seamaster!

  • @charliekennedy91
    @charliekennedy91 5 месяцев назад

    If availability and price were the same I’m going with a Sub but that’s only because of the bracelet and HE valve. That being said the white dial SMP is stunning and will probably be my next watch

  • @robworthington7431
    @robworthington7431 5 месяцев назад +7

    Even though the submariner is an older design, the seamaster looks dated (90s). That weird extra crown and lack of taper. The submariner is iconic and does look premium.

    • @tomislavm2873
      @tomislavm2873 5 месяцев назад +2

      submariner looks aliexpress

    • @robworthington7431
      @robworthington7431 5 месяцев назад

      @tomislavm2873 I know, I got robbed in Barcelona a few weeks back for my San Martin!

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 5 месяцев назад

      1. The Seamaster doesn't look dated.
      2. The Seamaster is iconic.
      3. The Seamaster definitely looks premium.
      On the other hand, if you're into Submariner, no Seamaster can scratch the itch.

  • @LooptroopRocker
    @LooptroopRocker 5 месяцев назад

    I wanted to get a sub for a long time and no watch could replace it no matter how good of a deal and arguably better value than the sub it was. Getting one after 5 years didn't change my mind. It is a perfect watch for me. Nothing comes close to it IF the Submariner is what you want. Seamasters are great watches but do nothing for me personally.

  • @JaxWatchesandEDC
    @JaxWatchesandEDC 5 месяцев назад

    I prefer the Omega clasp all day over the Rolex clasp.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад

      SEAMASTER 🔥🔥🔥

  • @robynsjp
    @robynsjp 5 месяцев назад

    Both. A 1967 Sub 5513 no date with original bracelet here, as a collection piece, not for in the water. For the water, my sword hands Omega SMPs (I have a couple).

    • @cecaju9516
      @cecaju9516 5 месяцев назад

      I have the exact same Sub. Great watch.

  • @bowiechan9851
    @bowiechan9851 5 месяцев назад

    Hmmm.... Citizen Promaster would a good affordable option 😅

  • @bobotmeister
    @bobotmeister 3 месяца назад

    if you find the rolex at retail... get that. the omega is better bought used unless you don't mind the loss getting it new.

  • @MZ-1981
    @MZ-1981 Месяц назад

    by over 6000$ I personally think, the OMEGA Seamaster is the best choice ever in that Budget, the Case is 42mm, and the combination of Ceramic and Enamel Bezel is the Amazing industrial & Art revolution, the domed Sapphire Christal in front with 2 sides anti reflected coated is amazing and the open case back which shows the beauty of caliber 8800 is stunning; the "HELIUM ESCAPE VALVE" is one of the major Weak point of the OMEGA Seamaster 300 Diver, what you've been waiting for? what else do we need by that budget?. There is no doubt that this watch is the best choice over Rolex

  • @acousticwalnut
    @acousticwalnut 5 месяцев назад +1

    Rolex is the only brand that is famous among those people who do not know anything about watches, which is why it is sought after by all those people who are *not rich or wealthy* but who want to *make people believe* that they are rich or wealthy.
    For the same price, Omega offers mechanically superior watches. Those who buy an Omega do so because they are so wealthy that they don't care about people's opinions or the future value of the watch, and especially they don't need a watch to show off to prove their wealth because its already clear.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад

      SEAMASTER is a GOAT WATCH🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @brianmurphy8154
    @brianmurphy8154 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love it man! Congrats!!! Gorgeous piece…now don’t stop with the San Martin reviews for us common folk 😂

  • @micaljimenez7381
    @micaljimenez7381 5 месяцев назад +1

    Bkth are very nice and iconic,but i predere the rolex,more retro fashion look

  • @JAB771
    @JAB771 5 месяцев назад

    Both good watches yes, but personally I’d save a few quid & buy the aquaracer. Despite what vloggers have to say they too are an excellent timepiece 👍

  • @billymania11
    @billymania11 5 месяцев назад

    In my cohort, nobody wears these two brands. They are considered old-school and are far too pricey. Nomos and Sinn seem to the consensus choices around here.

  • @BrettinLux
    @BrettinLux 5 месяцев назад

    Neither!!
    I had the SeaMaster and the helium escape valve hurt my wrist after a few hours.
    I tried getting a Rolex Sub 41mm but was put on a waiting list.I was told to buy a Rolex Oyster Perpetual for my wife and they’ll bump me up the list.
    I then Bought myself a Glashutte Original SeaQ Date Panorama at a duty free shop for less than retail on the Sub.Neither of the above come close in quality and feel.
    As for the strap….the Sub isn’t the best.Try the clasp on the Glashutte 👍👍

    • @Roy-vh9rp
      @Roy-vh9rp 5 месяцев назад

      The Glashütte Original SeaQ Panorama Date is on a different level compared to the Submariner or the Seamaster, without a doubt. Comparing the SeaQ Panorama Date to the Submariner is like comparing the Submariner to the Oris Aquis. However, most people aren’t aware of this because they have never handled a truly high-end watch

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 5 месяцев назад +1

      How HEV can hurt your wrist is beyond my comprehension. It's been my daily driver since 2017 and there's no such thing.

    • @BrettinLux
      @BrettinLux 5 месяцев назад

      @@zsb707 Ok,you have my wrist and know what my day involves.Good for you😃

  • @MP-zi6nz
    @MP-zi6nz 5 месяцев назад

    I have both

  • @wristopia4101
    @wristopia4101 5 месяцев назад

    So the two best things about the watch (price and availability) are nothing to do with the actual watch?
    The Planet Ocean is the real Submariner alternative anyway.
    Buy the Omega (at a discount) while you wait for a Sub from the same AD.
    Simples 😉

  • @raymondnoya5653
    @raymondnoya5653 3 месяца назад

    I like both

  • @victorcatch
    @victorcatch 5 месяцев назад

    Omega vs Rolex ......classic❤

  • @waynebruce2551
    @waynebruce2551 5 месяцев назад +3

    The Sub is extremely overrated I will go with the Seamaster any day for the price and movement

  • @johncoyle8191
    @johncoyle8191 5 месяцев назад

    There's a good reason why the sub is probably one of the most iconic watches ever.

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      It’s called marketing.

    • @SB-Kiwi
      @SB-Kiwi 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@IrishScribbler😂exactly

  • @JamesBond-o2w
    @JamesBond-o2w Месяц назад +1

    Seamaster!

  • @horstkaniny3614
    @horstkaniny3614 5 месяцев назад +1

    Just try one at retail, surprise it’s possible, and you will find out in the end, there really is a big difference, but both are beautiful ❤

  • @JuanSegarra-td6yr
    @JuanSegarra-td6yr 5 месяцев назад +1

    I picked up the Starbucks after waiting for the call from AD $10,800. I have an Aqua Terra blue dial and bracelet sucks.

    • @maitrehg
      @maitrehg 5 месяцев назад

      Omega's made in China bracelets are so bad.

    • @nhbmk
      @nhbmk 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@maitrehgOwn a few omegas and Rolex, then come back and comment about the bracelets. Thanks!

    • @maitrehg
      @maitrehg 5 месяцев назад

      @@nhbmk If we absolutely had to own the objects we comment on on RUclips, life would be really boring. By the way, I have 5 Tudors and have handled Subs and SMPs.

    • @nhbmk
      @nhbmk 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@maitrehg bruh… why u massing tudors? Amongst my multiple tudors Rolex omegas that I have extensively tested for daily wearing, I would argue bracelet quality is similar and each have their own pros and cons

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      @@maitrehgSo no, you don’t have any idea of what it feels like to actually one or wear one. That’s a bit like me saying that just because I’ve sat in a Ferrari I know how it feels to drive one. Go back to school, knobhead.

  • @Roy-vh9rp
    @Roy-vh9rp 5 месяцев назад

    Hold up, wait a minute, something ain't right! A. Lange & Söhne Odysseus and most watches from Glashütte Original have the best clasps with micro-adjustment - and the few others who use the same patent as them. Not Rolex.

  • @Phidz-x9h
    @Phidz-x9h 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do you know why Rolex/Doxa invented the automatic helium escape valve? Because deep sea divers kept forgetting to unscrew the crown to release the gas. Do you see how stupid it is to "invent" an additional crown that you have to manually unscrew as opposed to just unscrewing the crown that doesn't solve the original problem? It's too silly for me to even consider the Seamaster as a serious watch. For me, mechanical watches are about heritage and story - since they are obsolete. If the story is so silly, then it makes the watch silly.

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      Which is why the Seamaster was issued to those serving in the Royal Navy and military intelligence in WWII and has been the official timekeeper for the Olympics for nearly a century. Oh, and let’s not forget the moon landing and safe return of Apollo 13 thanks to the Speedmaster. But nah, you’re right, it has no story or heritage. 🤦🏻

    • @Phidz-x9h
      @Phidz-x9h 5 месяцев назад

      @@IrishScribbler how does that invalidate the point I'm making? I mean talking about watches like the Speedmaster that doesn't even have the extra crown or past watches pre-Bond that also didn't have the extra crown is irrelevant.

    • @vincenzostr4488
      @vincenzostr4488 5 месяцев назад

      Look at the Sea dweller it has the helium escape valve but there it opend automatically without needing to be unscrewed

    • @ALL-il1sw
      @ALL-il1sw 4 месяца назад

      This isn't entirely true. 1 unscrewing the crone to let gas out, can also let other unwanted things in, this is not good, which is why HE valves are one way valves. 2. Not sure about older saturation divers, but current ones, don't forget. I know most people might, but when you work in an environment that can kill you, procedures are paramount. Saturation divers are exactly like that, they don't forget things and everything is planned out and executed.
      Finally the heritage does matter. Omega's heritage is unrivalled

    • @Phidz-x9h
      @Phidz-x9h 4 месяца назад

      @@ALL-il1sw It is true. I am aware that the Seamaster's HE crown, once unscrewed, functions similarly to the Rolex He escape valve in that it doesn't allow water ingress, but He escape valves function in a chamber filled with air, not water. The original divers never complained about water going into their watches when they unscrewed the regular crown, they complained about forgetting to unscrew the crown in the first place.

  • @JoeSmith-np6nz
    @JoeSmith-np6nz Месяц назад

    I hate the seamaster bracelet, get it on the rubber and you’re set 👌🏽

  • @phmwu7368
    @phmwu7368 5 месяцев назад +1

    Tooth paste cap at 10 o'clock while Rolex patented a far better solution.

  • @cj.6988
    @cj.6988 5 месяцев назад

    Yes how in life does it come to that choice! Its completely subjective off course, imo the sub is more timeless and conservative a little less under radar and if it wasn't for the AD games and huge price difference it would be the sub for me. That said the seamaster isn't a poor second choice it's a different iconic design that stands on its own and the quality is on par and it's more playable youthful and fun plus it's has many color iterations therefore sub aside it's a great luxury watch too there's no right or wrong choice!

  • @BosworthMcG
    @BosworthMcG 5 месяцев назад +4

    It needs a 40mm case with 12.5mm thickness, and a bracelet that doesn’t look like something my grandad would wear. Then I’d buy it .

    • @denis888red
      @denis888red 5 месяцев назад

      @@Pler1978 🤣

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      It’s never been 40mm. Ever. The only models below the standard 41.5mm prior to the 42 were the ladies’ 36mm and 32mm pre ceramic. Are you a girly? Do you like to dress up in pretty frocks and high heels?

    • @nhbmk
      @nhbmk 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@IrishScribblerthe problem is probably his wrists, I imagine he has

    • @nhbmk
      @nhbmk 5 месяцев назад +1

      For men with men size wrists, the seamaster wears like a dream.

    • @BosworthMcG
      @BosworthMcG 5 месяцев назад

      @@nhbmk ohhh hurr durr sux to be you.

  • @TaiwanLYC
    @TaiwanLYC 5 месяцев назад +1

    As much as i love omega, let's face it, people are buying the seamaster 300m simply because they cannot buy a sub nowadays. Sub is a better watch, period. I used to own a 114060, however i did not expect rolex to become so hard to buy only several years later. Otherwise i wouldn't have sold it. The seamaster 300m is a very nice watch don't get me wrong, but sub is just better. Currently i hav 2 omegas and are my only 2 watch. Omega is a very good brand I'm not saying omega isn't good but in this comparison sub is just a better watch

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂😂 You’re seriously funny. Clown. So tell me, if the Submariner is so much more advanced (which it isn’t; any horological expert will tell you that the co-axial escapement is the most significant advancement in watchmaking over the last 250 years) why are people who are more than financially able to buy Rolex buying Omega instead? As a journalist I reckon I meet more people of influence than you do and they’re certainly not stupid. Many captains of industry buy Omega for the heritage, the quality and simply because they just like the design of the watch. Maybe when you’ve finished grade school you might be mature enough to understand that.

    • @fj7509
      @fj7509 5 месяцев назад

      @@IrishScribbler What an Omega fanboy lol.
      The Co-Ax isn’t even better than a normal Rolex movement. It’s less accurate, has less power reserve, and ticks slower. It’s GARBAGE. Omega is DEAD.

    • @IrishScribbler
      @IrishScribbler 5 месяцев назад

      @@fj7509I’ve just seen your photos on Facebook 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh my god. How many trees have you fallen out of? 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @user-tx5dy1fz4g
    @user-tx5dy1fz4g 23 дня назад

    Sea master 4 ever

  • @u.u.u9969
    @u.u.u9969 4 месяца назад

    The seamaster 300M were too puffy and clumsy compared to the sub. Sub all day.

  • @marko8698
    @marko8698 5 месяцев назад +1

    Both because like your aunt Sandra I will take everything that’s going 😉

  • @RansonJoe
    @RansonJoe 5 месяцев назад

    Nice review

  • @tl2192
    @tl2192 3 месяца назад

    Your funny 🤣 good review mate

    • @LumePip
      @LumePip  2 месяца назад

      Thanks, boss! 👍

  • @MichaelV89
    @MichaelV89 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sub no date and seamaster 300 titanium no date … if you can have both wny not

  • @BigFerg-hf6uv
    @BigFerg-hf6uv 5 месяцев назад +1

    Rolex and Subbies have a bit of a douchey vibe tbh 😮

  • @chaitanyakonduru2271
    @chaitanyakonduru2271 5 месяцев назад

    Given a choice between the two, I would always pick the Submariner. Not because of the "Rolex" name on the dial but for other reasons - 1) The Skeletonized hands of SMP 300 sometimes make it harder to read the time. 2) A bracelet without tapering does not look classy (at least from my eyes), 3) Submariner is aesthetically and proportionally a better made watch.
    If Omega makes the hands in SMP300 fully luminescent like in the Planet ocean collection (minus the thickness) I would definitely get the Omega here. Having said that if the comparison was between Submariner and Planet Ocean 39.5, my vote goes to Planet Ocean all day long.

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад

      BRACELET IS ICONIC

  • @metro2171
    @metro2171 5 месяцев назад

    The submariner is arguable the king of diver .

  • @kevin-ty4nm
    @kevin-ty4nm 3 месяца назад

    SMP for me all day every day and laugh at all the money I saved when seeing some one wearing an overpriced Sub ...

  • @natemiller770
    @natemiller770 5 месяцев назад

    Omega

    • @SIZZO76
      @SIZZO76 5 месяцев назад

      SEAMASTER 🔥

  • @JJPurp
    @JJPurp 5 месяцев назад

    Modern Sub. Better bracelet, better design, and just all around more handsome.

  • @alfieakaronaldog
    @alfieakaronaldog 5 месяцев назад +1

    You Omega obsessives are so funny lol.
    Enjoy your SMP300’s guys.
    They are pig awful, but you could get a gorgeous Planet Ocean (it comes in 38mm too) if a Rolex Sub (you know, the universally agreed best single watch in the world) is too offensive for you.
    It’s genuinely great if you genuinely prefer the SMP300. It’s not only cheaper and available (collecting dust in every single Omega AD), but hugely discountable at list and cheap as chips used.
    Why then do you keep mentioning the Sub??!! 😂

  • @BigT71
    @BigT71 3 месяца назад

    No date sub all day for me

  • @madprod3696
    @madprod3696 3 месяца назад

    La valve à hélium le bracelet tout est trop gros sur la seamaster moderne il y a peut être une nouvelle qui arrive en 40mm et sans date ça pourrait être interessant

  • @ioncaterinciuc1160
    @ioncaterinciuc1160 5 месяцев назад

    Where is the second one …the submariner ?

  • @marcelodietrich8674
    @marcelodietrich8674 5 месяцев назад

    Omega > Rolex.

  • @maitrehg
    @maitrehg 5 месяцев назад

    Sub by a mile. In my opinion, the SMP suffers from a goofy design. The superfluous crown, the weird handset, the pattern on the dial. It seems like they wanted to do too much. The bracelet is ugly and really lacks refinement. The movement is low beat and has a tiny power reserve.

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 5 месяцев назад

      Every single design cue makes the SMPc so characterful. Remove them one by one and you'll end up with a boring watch.
      Scalloped bezel, skeleton hands & HEV make this watch unique (I haven't mentioned wave dial - there's the no wave first gen SMP ceramic, bracelet - there's the rubber strap option, lyre lugs - other Omega watches also have them).

    • @maitrehg
      @maitrehg 5 месяцев назад

      @@zsb707 All these superfluous extravagances explain why the design of the SMP is a total failure. The Sub is pure perfection. A timeless classic. The most iconic watch ever.

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 5 месяцев назад

      @@maitrehg Sub - timeless classic & most iconic for sure
      SMPc - total failure ... definitely not

    • @maitrehg
      @maitrehg 5 месяцев назад

      @@zsb707 Total failure in my opinion obviously 😉