I generally use a bevel to rough in my bevels pre heat treat then free hand to final bevel thickness after ward. My hands aren’t steady enough to freehand the whole time. I know many knifemakers that scoff at ppl that use bevel jigs. But if it makes the job easier then why not.
Nice work mate. I definitely need more practice grinding bevels so thanks for the tips as always. Now that I'm working my plan is to save for a decent grinder instead of getting another cheap one.
Mate I spent 18 months with one mounted on an underpowered grinder, still got it bigger bench grinder and it might be a decent set up. The big boys toys cost some coin but worth it in the long run.
I just figured out the very “obvious “ rule to keep the jig at a consistent angle. I was losing my mind. Just seeing this would have saved me 4 blanks.
Free hand and jig grinding both have their place. The jig method is great for beginners, you don't have to worry about keeping the angle consistent and can concentrate on getting the pressure and the way you approach the grinder (left to right angle). The Jig is also great for repeatability so production work and speed of grinding. Freehand though can not be beaten for odd grinds so convex grinds which is also one of the best on a standard chef knife. The other day i was doing a grind on a spear including working the grind up into the socket area, there is pretty much no way to manage that on a jig and it comes back to free hand work. Lastly there is another option that i don't have yet which is a high angle work rest, this one is ideal for concave grinds and setting up S grinds which start with a concave that then leads into a convex of full height flat grind. S grinds are particular to some profiles of Japanese edge geometry. Lol long winded but yes start with Jig grinding, but never be scared to add some of the other methods into your toolbox as they certainly all have their place.
Yeah I like the single slot, the newest one has a lot more flexibility though. The budget one looks a little too unsupported for my tastes I like something firm behind the blade when I am grinding.
@DownunderFarmandForge that's what I thought about the budget one also. I have one I bought from OBM but I can't use my file guide with it. I tend to booger up my false edge. I need more practice grinding freehand.
Freehand comes with time and practice like anything else, despite what the doubters will tell you the skills picked up with jig grinding will help with the freehand. Can't really help much with false edge as they have never really been part of my designs.
@@DownunderFarmandForge thanks man. I was thinking about making a jig for filing false edges. I saw a video on it. Looks pretty slick. I could make it for around 20-25 bucks.
Honestly I have never once measured the angles, I prefer to have a small secondary bevel than a full Scandi, first sharpen someone does to a Scandi will give you the same result. so best to start there than have a blade that is design for a profile it will never have again. My secondary bevel on these was about 20degrees
Not sure which one was in the video, if the single slot for the clamp then it is discontinued, but they now make one with 2 slots by the same maker. You can get it from Nordic Edge in Australia nordicedge.com.au/bevel-jig-for-use-with-file-guide-v2/ they also have a new budget model or Knife Kits dot com in the States www.knifekits.com/vcom/sandergrinder-bevel-jig-stainless-steel-p-16186.html?osCsid=7ef5bb9a560804883aa28005ed9d0ba4 . No commission for me either way just really love the products and Bjorn the owner of the company is a really great guy.
This was a fun watch and I learned a bunch, very well explained and AWESOME craftsmanship
Glad you enjoyed it once we get set up I will be looking for guinea pigs for lessons😉
Excellent - very helpful. I am just getting into grinding my own bevels and this will assist me considerably. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Hit me up with any questions
Thanks for sharing your process, be safe and well. 👏👏🤞
Cheers Wayne, Knowledge shared is harder to lose. You take care of yourself to mate
I generally use a bevel to rough in my bevels pre heat treat then free hand to final bevel thickness after ward. My hands aren’t steady enough to freehand the whole time. I know many knifemakers that scoff at ppl that use bevel jigs. But if it makes the job easier then why not.
COOL file guide!
They are one of the best designs I have come across.
Great video I love wide beveled blades. Gives you a lot to work with
Yes it does! and thank you
G'day Darren, great information! Thank you for sharing! Blessings to you and your family!🕊✝🙏🏼💖
Thank you Cynthia, God Bless you and yours
one of the best videos on this topic that Ive seen. and youre an Aussie, on ya mate.. im subscribing..
Thank you kindly
Nice work mate. I definitely need more practice grinding bevels so thanks for the tips as always. Now that I'm working my plan is to save for a decent grinder instead of getting another cheap one.
Mate I spent 18 months with one mounted on an underpowered grinder, still got it bigger bench grinder and it might be a decent set up. The big boys toys cost some coin but worth it in the long run.
Very cool…. Jigs help a lot
Doing one off, freehand does work, but takes time, production style is hard to do without them. And they are easier for a beginner for sure.
Well done 👍from US
Cheers Mate, thanks
Thanks
No dramas
I just figured out the very “obvious “ rule to keep the jig at a consistent angle. I was losing my mind. Just seeing this would have saved me 4 blanks.
It takes some time and lots and lots of practice but it will become second nature. It does transfer to freehand grinding with time too.
I've been thinking about learning to free hand grind but what's the point. The jig works great so no reason to change. Great video 👍
Free hand and jig grinding both have their place. The jig method is great for beginners, you don't have to worry about keeping the angle consistent and can concentrate on getting the pressure and the way you approach the grinder (left to right angle). The Jig is also great for repeatability so production work and speed of grinding. Freehand though can not be beaten for odd grinds so convex grinds which is also one of the best on a standard chef knife. The other day i was doing a grind on a spear including working the grind up into the socket area, there is pretty much no way to manage that on a jig and it comes back to free hand work. Lastly there is another option that i don't have yet which is a high angle work rest, this one is ideal for concave grinds and setting up S grinds which start with a concave that then leads into a convex of full height flat grind. S grinds are particular to some profiles of Japanese edge geometry.
Lol long winded but yes start with Jig grinding, but never be scared to add some of the other methods into your toolbox as they certainly all have their place.
Thank you. I couldn't find the single slot jig anywhere.
Yeah I like the single slot, the newest one has a lot more flexibility though. The budget one looks a little too unsupported for my tastes I like something firm behind the blade when I am grinding.
@DownunderFarmandForge that's what I thought about the budget one also. I have one I bought from OBM but I can't use my file guide with it. I tend to booger up my false edge. I need more practice grinding freehand.
Freehand comes with time and practice like anything else, despite what the doubters will tell you the skills picked up with jig grinding will help with the freehand. Can't really help much with false edge as they have never really been part of my designs.
@@DownunderFarmandForge thanks man. I was thinking about making a jig for filing false edges. I saw a video on it. Looks pretty slick. I could make it for around 20-25 bucks.
Awesome, give it a sot on a practice piece or three and see how you go
Great job.
How many degrees inches was the Scandi made? . I'm planning a hunting knife for going out.
Honestly I have never once measured the angles, I prefer to have a small secondary bevel than a full Scandi, first sharpen someone does to a Scandi will give you the same result. so best to start there than have a blade that is design for a profile it will never have again. My secondary bevel on these was about 20degrees
do you have a link to your chinese belt supplier please
their website is www.hightoptool.com, send them an email and an English speaking rep will email you back
I like it
Thanks Jenn
Is that model of jig discontinued?
Not sure which one was in the video, if the single slot for the clamp then it is discontinued, but they now make one with 2 slots by the same maker. You can get it from Nordic Edge in Australia nordicedge.com.au/bevel-jig-for-use-with-file-guide-v2/ they also have a new budget model or Knife Kits dot com in the States www.knifekits.com/vcom/sandergrinder-bevel-jig-stainless-steel-p-16186.html?osCsid=7ef5bb9a560804883aa28005ed9d0ba4 . No commission for me either way just really love the products and Bjorn the owner of the company is a really great guy.
That's not a knife
well it ain't a spoon 😂
@DownunderFarmandForge lol this was a great video, thanks keep up the excellent content
thanks