2:08 this is such a good observation, because even if fraxure lacks sexual dimorphism they do have the rivalry ability, meaning that them using their tusks for gendered competition is 100% an intended design aspect which is very cool
A neat concept for a video. One detail though: Golett and Golurk wouldn't be in the food chain, at least not anywhere as specific as where they were placed. Their nature as golems, alongside the fact that the pokedex explicitly stating that their power source is unknown, indicate that it wouldn't feed off of electricity. *If* it feeds off of anything, it is probably souls or some other ghostly energy, but it seems equally if not more likely that the power source is entirely self contained, either being infinite as some pokedex entries might suggest, or at the very least running for long enough amounts of time it functionally doesn't matter.
Sometimes I forget that you need more space than you think for many creatures, especially those who need to travel large distances as their food source gets diminished in certain areas. Takin in over two dozen evolution lines, some partitioning niches with members of their family in an area with low plant material and as small of a space as the polar biome, this may sound confusing or be grammatically incorrect, but I think Blueberry bit off more than they could chew with this one.
Oh absolutely! Some of the other biomes might do a little better, but the Polar Biome in particular probably has to supplement all the Pokémon diets there
It is important to remember that the whole "Pokemon regions are canonically bigger than they look in game" rule likely applies to the terrarium as well.
@@Articfoxgamez That's a great point to consider, especially since we can fly on our chosen legend, making traversal even quicker and in turn making the biome seem smaller. If it were shown off in the anime though, I would expect it to be many times larger than in the games.
@@eikonokyttaro2035 every pokemon city/town (which is usually like less than 20 houses ingame) usually is shown to be absolutely huge cities in the anime, so I kinda guess that the terrarium in the anime would just be around thrice the ingame size, or even bigger
It’s so strange to think Duraludon(on of my fav mons) as an apex predator! I thought it would be like Aggron where it’s actually an herbivore, but it makes sense Another thing, I was watching a streamer run through this Terrarium, and my first thought was “What does this place smell like?!” It’s just a bunch of blocks separating these locations, but they’re still all somehow temperature controlled, and animal make quite the smell >_>
@@Dragmiredraws That's a great question! Probably can't smell great but if they are feeding the Pokémon I'm assuming they are also removing some of their waste, so that has to help a little?
Awesome to see you back and uploading full videos! Always a treat :D I will say i think you dismissed duraludons nieche in the ecosystem a bit. Its very much adapted to cold places since it needs to vent heat often, and while this is conjecture i do think it might be able to at least supplement its diet via electivory (at least its animations suggest this). It might not have its preffered prey but hey maybe thats why it unlocked a new evolution in this environment
Its evolution does certainly make me suspicious of its ability to consume electricity! But it also drastically changes its body plan so maybe there is some niche partitioning going on there?
They could probably be both depending on how they generate their electricity. Some Pokémon must absorb electricity to fuel their attacks or their body (consumers) according to their Pokédex entries-but it's unclear if they must regularly charge up or if they just opportunistically absorb it (could potentially be producers).
My opinion on why you can feed berries to Pokémon that seem to be entirely mechanical (magnemite, golurk, Klink, etc.) is that they’re not deriving any actual nutrients from it, they just appreciate the gesture from the trainer
Porygon eating berries is a simulation of eating I think. It could be a program it has to promote bonding in ways similar to already existing pokemon, like a tomagachi or, well, a pokemon 😅
yknow: even though they arnt seen in game I wouldnt be suprised if the starter pokemon could manage to evolve all the way or the occaisonal fraxure becomes a haxorus, and despite the type advantage i could easily see a haxorus bully a beartic out of a kill, especially if a wild individual has some other species as ancestors and got iron tail as an egg move
Unless it's a translation thing, the Dex entries only say that fish Pokémon populations decline in areas with too many Lapras. Which may be a food competition thing instead of predation
Yeah I thought that too when he said it but most version of lapras now don’t have that. I like to think of it as a sort of adaptation of eating meat previously and then progressively moving towards plants and such changing the form of descendants to be more of an herbivore. I could be wrong but I’m glad someone else thought of that too.
Also I find it funny that metagros can be 25% shiny and/or Metang can be 50% shiny bc they involve merging w. Another member of their evolution line Yes the shiny ones usually tend to merge/fuse w. Other shinies but they r super rare so it might never find other shines. So it’ll settle I guess w. The normal ones
assuming that a habitat like this cannot function at this scale assumes a lot about the microbiology of pokemon. From what we can tell, gaseous bodies and “floating” or flying animals are fairly common in almost all habitats, meaning there could be an entire hyper-dense clouds of “aeroplankton” as an entire additional producer. Also the existence of the frosmoth line and durants frequently occurring and sustaining in colder regions could mean there’s entire phylogenies of smaller invertebrates and even subterranean biomass “wells” that could handily provide enough for any large bodied animals able to subsist near them. Ultimately we don’t know enough to make any claims about the intricacies of pokemon ecosystems, because all we are ever shown if animals larger than mice and the abiotic factors around them.
Maybe like a hawk or bird of prey it would pick up prey n then drop them from way up high since it can float/hover n it can use its psychic powers to help it move the body or break necks/bones. Lol
A head cannon I have is Pokemon simply do not need to eat as much as organisms in our reality. That's why they can live in such seemingly extreme and empty environments. They are magical why would they follow all of our logic anyways.
For Duraludon's diet, it basically only has minior to feed on, but the minor are so abundant that I think they might be enough.
2:08 this is such a good observation, because even if fraxure lacks sexual dimorphism they do have the rivalry ability, meaning that them using their tusks for gendered competition is 100% an intended design aspect which is very cool
that meand than both the male and female fight for mates
A neat concept for a video. One detail though: Golett and Golurk wouldn't be in the food chain, at least not anywhere as specific as where they were placed. Their nature as golems, alongside the fact that the pokedex explicitly stating that their power source is unknown, indicate that it wouldn't feed off of electricity. *If* it feeds off of anything, it is probably souls or some other ghostly energy, but it seems equally if not more likely that the power source is entirely self contained, either being infinite as some pokedex entries might suggest, or at the very least running for long enough amounts of time it functionally doesn't matter.
Sometimes I forget that you need more space than you think for many creatures, especially those who need to travel large distances as their food source gets diminished in certain areas. Takin in over two dozen evolution lines, some partitioning niches with members of their family in an area with low plant material and as small of a space as the polar biome, this may sound confusing or be grammatically incorrect, but I think Blueberry bit off more than they could chew with this one.
Oh absolutely! Some of the other biomes might do a little better, but the Polar Biome in particular probably has to supplement all the Pokémon diets there
It is important to remember that the whole "Pokemon regions are canonically bigger than they look in game" rule likely applies to the terrarium as well.
@@Articfoxgamez That's a great point to consider, especially since we can fly on our chosen legend, making traversal even quicker and in turn making the biome seem smaller. If it were shown off in the anime though, I would expect it to be many times larger than in the games.
@@eikonokyttaro2035 every pokemon city/town (which is usually like less than 20 houses ingame) usually is shown to be absolutely huge cities in the anime, so I kinda guess that the terrarium in the anime would just be around thrice the ingame size, or even bigger
I love the concept of organizing Pokémon into food webs, really interesting!
It’s so strange to think Duraludon(on of my fav mons) as an apex predator! I thought it would be like Aggron where it’s actually an herbivore, but it makes sense
Another thing, I was watching a streamer run through this Terrarium, and my first thought was “What does this place smell like?!” It’s just a bunch of blocks separating these locations, but they’re still all somehow temperature controlled, and animal make quite the smell >_>
@@Dragmiredraws That's a great question! Probably can't smell great but if they are feeding the Pokémon I'm assuming they are also removing some of their waste, so that has to help a little?
Joltik picking is a nice idea! Glad to see a new video!
I really liked your approach on milcery great vid
Thanks! I really enjoyed trying to think through that one!
I had no idea these kind of vids existed and I'm so grateful! Gonna binge all of it!
Awesome to see you back and uploading full videos! Always a treat :D
I will say i think you dismissed duraludons nieche in the ecosystem a bit. Its very much adapted to cold places since it needs to vent heat often, and while this is conjecture i do think it might be able to at least supplement its diet via electivory (at least its animations suggest this). It might not have its preffered prey but hey maybe thats why it unlocked a new evolution in this environment
Its evolution does certainly make me suspicious of its ability to consume electricity! But it also drastically changes its body plan so maybe there is some niche partitioning going on there?
I love the idea of electrovores acting as primary comsumers (or would they actually be producers?)
They could probably be both depending on how they generate their electricity. Some Pokémon must absorb electricity to fuel their attacks or their body (consumers) according to their Pokédex entries-but it's unclear if they must regularly charge up or if they just opportunistically absorb it (could potentially be producers).
Golett and golurk don't interact with the food web due to them having perpetual energy and no mouth
But they would in theory be a prey species to pokemon that feed on energy though
No way, I followed you early on TikTok and now you're popping up in my YT recs! Glad to see you doing longer form content!
@@ajmentel2453 Ayyy, glad I made it here!
Porygon probably just digitizes the berries. It is a digital lifeform that is able to go in and out of cyberspace whenever it wants.
Sure, it can download berries, but WOULD IT DOWNLOAD A CAR!?
@@geekecology why would it even want to?
@@geekecologyPirating Porygon is WILD
My opinion on why you can feed berries to Pokémon that seem to be entirely mechanical (magnemite, golurk, Klink, etc.) is that they’re not deriving any actual nutrients from it, they just appreciate the gesture from the trainer
Just wanted to say for fraxure is that the tusks might be used to secure a food source from others.
Wow, he's like a Pokémon professor irl!
Hah, what would be he's "wood" name? lol
Porygon eating berries is a simulation of eating I think. It could be a program it has to promote bonding in ways similar to already existing pokemon, like a tomagachi or, well, a pokemon 😅
This is incredibly interesting I must find more
Boy do I have the channel for you!
great video, I love seeing people tackle this stuff in pokemon
I would LOVE to see a subnautica food web
You should definitely do generation 7!!🎉
yknow: even though they arnt seen in game I wouldnt be suprised if the starter pokemon could manage to evolve all the way or the occaisonal fraxure becomes a haxorus, and despite the type advantage i could easily see a haxorus bully a beartic out of a kill, especially if a wild individual has some other species as ancestors and got iron tail as an egg move
Some dex entries say that Lapras eat fish Pokémon.
Unless it's a translation thing, the Dex entries only say that fish Pokémon populations decline in areas with too many Lapras. Which may be a food competition thing instead of predation
I'll will say this many of the pokedex will usually mention. Rather it's prey or predator.
Finally an ice biome ! 🙌🏾
3:38 lapras has sharp teeth in early pokemon card art
Yeah I thought that too when he said it but most version of lapras now don’t have that. I like to think of it as a sort of adaptation of eating meat previously and then progressively moving towards plants and such changing the form of descendants to be more of an herbivore. I could be wrong but I’m glad someone else thought of that too.
Okay, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Now, how would Walrein slot into this?
Probably a similar diet to Oshawott - lots of marine invertebrates
@@geekecology I see. Yeah, not too many analogues for what real life Walruses eat in the Pokédex
Do a video discussing the food web of D&D´s underdark
Need a collab with Shelby onsafari
The Pokémon are living just fine.
Also I find it funny that metagros can be 25% shiny and/or Metang can be 50% shiny bc they involve merging w. Another member of their evolution line
Yes the shiny ones usually tend to merge/fuse w. Other shinies but they r super rare so it might never find other shines. So it’ll settle I guess w. The normal ones
New here, are there other videos like this? I'm very, very, intrigued
@@PirvateerKurei Absolutely! I have a few more Pokémon food webs on my channel and lots of other ecology/biology based videos!
assuming that a habitat like this cannot function at this scale assumes a lot about the microbiology of pokemon. From what we can tell, gaseous bodies and “floating” or flying animals are fairly common in almost all habitats, meaning there could be an entire hyper-dense clouds of “aeroplankton” as an entire additional producer. Also the existence of the frosmoth line and durants frequently occurring and sustaining in colder regions could mean there’s entire phylogenies of smaller invertebrates and even subterranean biomass “wells” that could handily provide enough for any large bodied animals able to subsist near them. Ultimately we don’t know enough to make any claims about the intricacies of pokemon ecosystems, because all we are ever shown if animals larger than mice and the abiotic factors around them.
Maybe like a hawk or bird of prey it would pick up prey n then drop them from way up high since it can float/hover n it can use its psychic powers to help it move the body or break necks/bones.
Lol
But metang doesn’t have a mouth. So wouldn’t it also just eat electricity instead ?
I love this so much
A head cannon I have is Pokemon simply do not need to eat as much as organisms in our reality. That's why they can live in such seemingly extreme and empty environments. They are magical why would they follow all of our logic anyways.
You forgot artibax line and the cetitan aswell as possibly frosmoth and sneasle
Very _COOL._
Nice
I just found ur channel I love pokemon lore stuff and free Palestine 👍
Found you
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If you look at the dex photo for Eelektrik you see it chasing a joltick, and in the background galvauntla chasing 2 Eeletriks
This checks out