@@CheLanguages Yeah they aren’t. I saw some videos of people speaking Razihi and Faifi and I couldn’t understand anything except a couple of words like Ijlis which means sit.
@@CheLanguages Here is an example of Razihi ruclips.net/video/j2gh5EF5ONI/видео.html This language is very very influenced by Arabic. Some Yemenis may understand it a bit and may be able to get the gist of what they’re saying. We don’t even understand Yemenis half of the time because their dialects are so influenced by South Arabian languages.
Most interesting. Long ago I worked with a guy who had been in the Peace Coops in Tunisia (he had to learn Arabic). He was dating a girl from Italy at the time (she taught him Italian). He told me that when they went to Malta on vacation, between Arabic and Italian, he could mostly understand Maltese.
If there is enough data available, a separate video about the remaining minority languages (Mehri, Shehri etc) in mainland Yemen and Oman could be interesting, including how much they are influenced by Arabic.
Hi, I'm an Amharic speaker. The Harari text is quite unintelligible, but there are a few words that look familiar (correct me if I'm wrong). One is መትሌ'መድ ('matlemad') which I think means 'teach'. I inferred it as it sounds similar to the Amharic ልመድ, which means 'get used to', 'familiarize', etc. ወልዳችዚናው ('Waldachzinaw') looks like an inflection of a corresponding word of the Amharic ወለደ is ('gave birth') and I think it means 'children'. There is ሰቢ ('sabai') and it sounds like 'people', and I think combined with either the previous or next word it is supposed to be 'students'. What surprised me though is the word for 'Ethiopic' ('Hararbe'). I don't know how it evolved far from the original word, but it's fascinating. The numbers are quite similar, but I think that's the case for most Semitic languages.
Fascinating, I've never actually met an Amharic speaker. Matlemad looks very similar to Hebrew Melamed, similar root of course as they're both Semitic languages.
4 in Harari is "harat", it's still related to Hebrew "arba" but has an aspiration as the first sound that the Hebrew doesn't have and the b has been elided, compare with 4 in other Ethiopic languages which is often "arbat" and the connection becomes clear.
Yeah I came across that in my research, I didn't realize it was still related, I can see it when comparing with Amharic now! But Arbin and Arba'im were too close not to mention. Thank you for your comment!
Do we have any speakable proto-afro-asiatic reconstructions or preservations? Some of these lesser known semitic languages are ringing bells in Hausa that I know arent loan words from Arabic.
I don’t get notifications that you’ve posted, so when you recommended this video, I looked at your video list - I’ve missed so many! I’m rectifying that now 😊
Thanks for covering Maltese, my mum's native language - Maltese dialects aren't always that clear-cut, but Gozitan is definitely easy to identify even for non-speakers like me, as are 'village' registers like Żejtuni (which my mum's best friend spoke). Just a small thing - I was wondering why I'd never heard of the word 'Maltrian' before (no online references either) - but it does look like some people use the word 'Maltralian' to describe the way Maltese people speak the language in Australia.
That's awesome, if it's your mother's mother tongue, do you speak it too? I know you said you're a non-speaker, but like, do you use phrases and stuff at home? If not, learn it! It's such a cool language. I'd like to see more what the differences between the dialects are, I don't usually delve into dialectal differences here though...
@@CheLanguages I was discouraged from learning languages as a kid (misdiagnosed speech issue), so mum was understandably reluctant to teach me, despite my enthusiasm. As an adult I’ve tried - I’m now multilingual, but have made less progress with Maltese up to now. My wife and I are both half Maltese, so we do throw around a few key phrases, especially when dealing with her mum or nanna (who unusually for a Maltese person speaks very little English). Dialect differences (as far as I know) are mainly lexical, though there’s also phonological differences too between Gozitan, some villages (like Zejtun) and more urban registers. I don’t know enough about the syntax, I'm afraid. Coming home one day and telling mum that I ate ‘stuffut’ (a stew) with her Zejtuni friend, rather than more standard ‘stuffat’, became a running joke for years!
@@robertlindsey3596 ah, thank you for the anecdote! It's interesting to hear about your situation, how you use certain things at home. I hope someday you'll reclaim the language fully!
Certain dialects at least of Hebrew certainly had the Welsh ll for the letter sin. The evidence is Kasdim became Chaldaioi in Greek (sin becoming lambda) and bosem became balsam in Latin (sin becoming LS combination).
Hmm interesting but I'm still not quite convinced. /ɬ/ doesn't really sound too much like L, despite it's similar look on the IPA, I would have thought to the Greeks it would seem more like an aspirated S or something. Also why does K become Kh in the Greek version? Have you got anymore examples to prove this?
@@CheLanguages Ancient Greek chi was simply an aspirated unvoiced velar plosive like the c in "cool" in the majority of English dialects and was often used for Hebrew kaf.
@@CheLanguages If you compare cognate words in Hebrew and Soqotri and other South Arabian languages, the Hebrew sin corresponds to lateral fricatives in these, so it's not simply based on European borrowings like balsam.
@@M.athematech Most fascinating, I will look into it further. I still think it's just far-fetched for Hebrew to have had such a unique sound, especially considering all the borrowings into Greek where they understood that the same letter Sin makes an S sound. Maybe it was a specific dialect, as we know they existed (see the origin of the word Shibboleth in English)
@@M.athematech That's true, I often forget that Khi was an unaspirated K not a Kh like in Hebrew. Similarly, Phi was an aspirated P not an F, and Theta and aspirated T not a Th like in Modern Greek or English. These preservations can still be found in the Coptic script (at least in Old-Bohairic pronunciation, which is one of the two accepted liturgical pronunciations).
No no, I'm not one of those people. I just talk about languages. Harari is also the surname of a very good professor at the Hebrew University of Yerushalayim, but there's no link I can find between them.
I liked maltese the moast with its heavy romance influence, further maybe a video of aramaic, sirunian, and syriac and galdean would be nice in the next one, (im not sure whith the naming of the mentioned languiges) , greetings
Syriac is an Aramaic language, that's the thing, Aramaic is not one language, but a group of languages. I want to make a whole separate video on it instead
I didn't know Navajo had it? Nahuatl (Aztec) famously has it too, but in conjunction with /t/, represented by the tl digraph you see everywhere in Nahuatl
Ik some silti and shi'isht is usually pronounced as shæsht you might find that more similar to hebrew Something to note; wheneve you see ti at the end of ethiosemitic numerals try to ignore the i , its a common mistraslation from the ge'ez script(which is an abugida), as such ham'misti should be pronounced as ham'mist and shi'ishti as shi'isht
@@CheLanguages it's a cuss word hehehe I just heard that from a Maltese woman dissing a conservative politician... As a Filipino I can relate to Maltese culture and politics.
will you ever do a video on forgotten dead Semitic languages like those once spoken in the lands of Mesopotamia and Phoenicia. Before Rome, Persia (Iran) And the Arabs conquered them.
@@CheLanguages yea I Like the writing system of them like the Cuneiform used for all their writing. its different to what survived but being on clay allowed it to survive all the harshness of time unlike paper which rots faster.
@@CheLanguages you are absolutely right. It would be well done to go from old precursor to Imperial Aramaic, Imperial Aramaic, then the later derivations so the language tree remains clear.
Proper name for Phoenician language is Punic. It was spoken in the Phoenician heartland and it was the language of Carthage and it's colonies across the Western Mediterranean basin. Edit: Geography correction.
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Finally, I made this video! Which was your favorite? Tell me what you want to see next time!
Soqotri is so underrated!
But I like Maltese too
@@AvrahamYairStern as I mention in the video, Maltese is my favorite Semitic language beside Hebrew
@@AvrahamYairStern and I agree, Soqotri needs more attention
@@CheLanguages it certainly does
Fun Fact: There are 2 speculated descendants of Old South Arabian still spoken in Saudi Arabia: Faifi and Razihi.
That's awesome, I didn't actually know about that! I read during my research that Old South Arabian had gone extinct so that's potentially good news
@@CheLanguages Speakers of these languages call their languages dialects of Arabic.
@@alyaly2355 clearly they wouldn't be though if it's Old South Arabian
@@CheLanguages Yeah they aren’t. I saw some videos of people speaking Razihi and Faifi and I couldn’t understand anything except a couple of words like Ijlis which means sit.
@@CheLanguages Here is an example of Razihi
ruclips.net/video/j2gh5EF5ONI/видео.html
This language is very very influenced by Arabic. Some Yemenis may understand it a bit and may be able to get the gist of what they’re saying. We don’t even understand Yemenis half of the time because their dialects are so influenced by South Arabian languages.
Most interesting.
Long ago I worked with a guy who had been in the Peace Coops in Tunisia (he had to learn Arabic). He was dating a girl from Italy at the time (she taught him Italian). He told me that when they went to Malta on vacation, between Arabic and Italian, he could mostly understand Maltese.
That definitely makes sense, especially considering Maltese's closest living relative is the Tunisian variety of Maghrebi. Thank you for your comment!
@@CheLanguages Love your videos. Keep them coming.
@@gazoontight I will do!
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There are ~400,000 Maltese in Malta.
200,000 in Australia.
Yeah, it's crazy!
For god sake. 😮
Good video, I think Harari is my favourite one in this video! Keep it up
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
If there is enough data available, a separate video about the remaining minority languages (Mehri, Shehri etc) in mainland Yemen and Oman could be interesting, including how much they are influenced by Arabic.
I'll talk about them more in part 2
They influenced Arabic? Like the whole language or just dialects in those regions?
Shehri is in Oman not Yemen
The part two video is now live and it includes Shehri!
@@danielheckel2755Yes, it is.
Semitic will always be my favourite language family. Very interesting video!! Also, do you know of any recordings of the Maltrian dialect?
There are recordings, I didn't want to go into detail of it though, I thought it was worth mentioning though
Semitic will always be my favorite too!
I've been waiting for this video for so long, dzięki Cze!
No problem Grzegorz, I hope you enjoyed it!
@@CheLanguages I definitely did!
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewicz991 great!
Hi, I'm an Amharic speaker. The Harari text is quite unintelligible, but there are a few words that look familiar (correct me if I'm wrong).
One is መትሌ'መድ ('matlemad') which I think means 'teach'. I inferred it as it sounds similar to the Amharic ልመድ, which means 'get used to', 'familiarize', etc.
ወልዳችዚናው ('Waldachzinaw') looks like an inflection of a corresponding word of the Amharic ወለደ is ('gave birth') and I think it means 'children'. There is ሰቢ ('sabai') and it sounds like 'people', and I think combined with either the previous or next word it is supposed to be 'students'.
What surprised me though is the word for 'Ethiopic' ('Hararbe'). I don't know how it evolved far from the original word, but it's fascinating. The numbers are quite similar, but I think that's the case for most Semitic languages.
Fascinating, I've never actually met an Amharic speaker. Matlemad looks very similar to Hebrew Melamed, similar root of course as they're both Semitic languages.
Oh wow, first viewer. Never this early
Nice video btw, I had no idea 2/3 these languages existed until now!
I hope you enjoy the video!
Enjoyed watching this video thanks grazzi ħafna ❤🇲🇹
I'm very glad you enjoyed it, grazzi to you too
4 in Harari is "harat", it's still related to Hebrew "arba" but has an aspiration as the first sound that the Hebrew doesn't have and the b has been elided, compare with 4 in other Ethiopic languages which is often "arbat" and the connection becomes clear.
Yeah I came across that in my research, I didn't realize it was still related, I can see it when comparing with Amharic now! But Arbin and Arba'im were too close not to mention. Thank you for your comment!
Do we have any speakable proto-afro-asiatic reconstructions or preservations? Some of these lesser known semitic languages are ringing bells in Hausa that I know arent loan words from Arabic.
I don’t get notifications that you’ve posted, so when you recommended this video, I looked at your video list - I’ve missed so many! I’m rectifying that now 😊
Well I hope you enjoy catching up! Turn notifications on so you don't miss it next week
I never heard of Harari before this video, cool
I'm glad you learned something new!
Me neither
Maltese is so cool! Plus, I just learned about two additional languages I knew nothing about.
Well I'm glad to hear you learnt something new! I hope you enjoyed the video
What is your favorite Semitic language would you say?
@@CheLanguages I don't know. 😅
@@Artur_M. ah that's OK
Could you do a video about the Quechua languages?
At some point, yeah
Thanks for covering Maltese, my mum's native language - Maltese dialects aren't always that clear-cut, but Gozitan is definitely easy to identify even for non-speakers like me, as are 'village' registers like Żejtuni (which my mum's best friend spoke). Just a small thing - I was wondering why I'd never heard of the word 'Maltrian' before (no online references either) - but it does look like some people use the word 'Maltralian' to describe the way Maltese people speak the language in Australia.
That's awesome, if it's your mother's mother tongue, do you speak it too? I know you said you're a non-speaker, but like, do you use phrases and stuff at home? If not, learn it! It's such a cool language. I'd like to see more what the differences between the dialects are, I don't usually delve into dialectal differences here though...
@@CheLanguages I was discouraged from learning languages as a kid (misdiagnosed speech issue), so mum was understandably reluctant to teach me, despite my enthusiasm. As an adult I’ve tried - I’m now multilingual, but have made less progress with Maltese up to now. My wife and I are both half Maltese, so we do throw around a few key phrases, especially when dealing with her mum or nanna (who unusually for a Maltese person speaks very little English).
Dialect differences (as far as I know) are mainly lexical, though there’s also phonological differences too between Gozitan, some villages (like Zejtun) and more urban registers. I don’t know enough about the syntax, I'm afraid. Coming home one day and telling mum that I ate ‘stuffut’ (a stew) with her Zejtuni friend, rather than more standard ‘stuffat’, became a running joke for years!
@@robertlindsey3596 ah, thank you for the anecdote! It's interesting to hear about your situation, how you use certain things at home. I hope someday you'll reclaim the language fully!
Certain dialects at least of Hebrew certainly had the Welsh ll for the letter sin. The evidence is Kasdim became Chaldaioi in Greek (sin becoming lambda) and bosem became balsam in Latin (sin becoming LS combination).
Hmm interesting but I'm still not quite convinced. /ɬ/ doesn't really sound too much like L, despite it's similar look on the IPA, I would have thought to the Greeks it would seem more like an aspirated S or something. Also why does K become Kh in the Greek version? Have you got anymore examples to prove this?
@@CheLanguages Ancient Greek chi was simply an aspirated unvoiced velar plosive like the c in "cool" in the majority of English dialects and was often used for Hebrew kaf.
@@CheLanguages If you compare cognate words in Hebrew and Soqotri and other South Arabian languages, the Hebrew sin corresponds to lateral fricatives in these, so it's not simply based on European borrowings like balsam.
@@M.athematech Most fascinating, I will look into it further. I still think it's just far-fetched for Hebrew to have had such a unique sound, especially considering all the borrowings into Greek where they understood that the same letter Sin makes an S sound. Maybe it was a specific dialect, as we know they existed (see the origin of the word Shibboleth in English)
@@M.athematech That's true, I often forget that Khi was an unaspirated K not a Kh like in Hebrew. Similarly, Phi was an aspirated P not an F, and Theta and aspirated T not a Th like in Modern Greek or English. These preservations can still be found in the Coptic script (at least in Old-Bohairic pronunciation, which is one of the two accepted liturgical pronunciations).
Maltese is one of my favorites, Soqotri too now
That's awesome! I'm glad you enjoyed the video
@@CheLanguages I did!
@@QuandaleDingleGoofyAhh123 awesome!
Another Semitic language that often goes forgotten by those interested in the Afro-Asiatic family is Mandaean.
Certainly! It might end up in my next video....
NO WAY! FINALLY!!!!
I hope you enjoy the video!
@@CheLanguages thank you
Also I disciverd Wolene or Wolane language o Abbysinian (Ethio semitic language)
Yes, of course
For a split second I thought you were trying to insult the Harari endonym
No no, I'm not one of those people. I just talk about languages. Harari is also the surname of a very good professor at the Hebrew University of Yerushalayim, but there's no link I can find between them.
I liked maltese the moast with its heavy romance influence, further maybe a video of aramaic, sirunian, and syriac and galdean would be nice in the next one, (im not sure whith the naming of the mentioned languiges) , greetings
Syriac is an Aramaic language, that's the thing, Aramaic is not one language, but a group of languages. I want to make a whole separate video on it instead
But yes, more Forgotten Semitic Languages videos are coming!
Harari, such amazing language with so little speakers
Hopefully it will grow
Very good
Thank you!
Based Soqotri
Based Semitic languages
I love that /ɬ/ gets called "the Welsh 'L'" or "the Navajo 'L'" by the linguists I follow.
I didn't know Navajo had it? Nahuatl (Aztec) famously has it too, but in conjunction with /t/, represented by the tl digraph you see everywhere in Nahuatl
7:00 unintelligible
Me or the text?
@@CheLanguagesThe text is completely unintelligible. It’s easier to understand Tigrigna than Harari.
@@Zeyede_Seyum Ah interesting!
Ik some silti and shi'isht is usually pronounced as shæsht you might find that more similar to hebrew
Something to note; wheneve you see ti at the end of ethiosemitic numerals try to ignore the i , its a common mistraslation from the ge'ez script(which is an abugida), as such ham'misti should be pronounced as ham'mist and shi'ishti as shi'isht
That's good to know when reading Ge'ez, I need to study more into it actually. Also I think you meant transliteration?
@CheLanguages yes my english is not that good.
@@AMR_k400 that's OK, it was good enough to write out that whole explanation!
Best language family
I would agree 100%
@@CheLanguages Based
@@QuandaleDingleGoofyAhh123 😎
Harari is my favorite!
Awesome!
@@CheLanguages tak
Oooo semitic!
Oooo indeed
The best language family
@@CheLanguages totaly not biased amirite?
@@Rabid_Nationalist totally not LOL
Peter Griffin loves these videos !
That's great Peter Griffin!
Maltese people around the world: LIBAAAAAAAAAA!
What does that mean? Is it related to Hebrew Lev (Heart)?
@@CheLanguages it's a cuss word hehehe
I just heard that from a Maltese woman dissing a conservative politician...
As a Filipino I can relate to Maltese culture and politics.
It's a rude word 😢 used to offend people
What about the Amazigh (Berber) languages, they're like the cousins to the Semitics. THEY'RE AFRO ASIATIC LANGUAGES, FOR GOODNESS SAKE!
I already responded to your other comment, I'm going to make a video on them dw!
thats interesting
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
Any reason bnedmin and bredrin are similar? Or is it just a coincidence?
What is bredrin?
By the way, it's related to the Hebrew Bnei Adam
It's אחד עשרה not עשרה אחד
Ah yes that's true, got confused
will you ever do a video on forgotten dead Semitic languages like those once spoken in the lands of Mesopotamia and Phoenicia. Before Rome, Persia (Iran) And the Arabs conquered them.
Certainly yes, I want to cover living ones first, but I can't wait to talk about those no longer with us
@@CheLanguages yea I Like the writing system of them like the Cuneiform used for all their writing. its different to what survived but being on clay allowed it to survive all the harshness of time unlike paper which rots faster.
@@cillianennis9921 Cuneiform is awesome, a fully phonetic variant of it should be revived today I say!
@@cillianennis9921 though remember that Cuneiform was not originally a Semitic script, the Sumerians (not Semitic) used it before
@@CheLanguages is Sumerian Still Afro-asiatic right. Like Semitic languages.
I think you may have covered Aramaic in this yet if not then you can speak of the Aramaic language.
That's a whole other video unto itself as Aramaic is not one language
@@CheLanguages that I did not know. Maybe you can cover it.
@@sethfrisbie3957 I want to make a video on it yes. There are tons of Aramaic languages that are not mutually intelligible still around today
@@CheLanguages you are absolutely right. It would be well done to go from old precursor to Imperial Aramaic, Imperial Aramaic, then the later derivations so the language tree remains clear.
@@ellemueller so like the entire history of Aramaic? That's a possibility
Phoenician is also a forgotten language
I think he's talking about living ones
@@AvrahamYairStern exactly
Yes, but it has no speakers. I'll talk about dead ones another time
Proper name for Phoenician language is Punic. It was spoken in the Phoenician heartland and it was the language of Carthage and it's colonies across the Western Mediterranean basin.
Edit: Geography correction.
@@petergray7576 Phoenician heartland was not Libya, Phoenicia was Lebanon. You're jot getting confused by the two Tripolis are you?
Harari is spoken in Ethiopia. We call them Aderie Harari.
Cool. Which language do you speak?
And a lot of the old Mesopotamian languages like Akkadian were Semitic. Sumerian was not however as a language isolate to our best knowledge.
I go into more detail in my Semitic Languages Overview video
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Metal.
Metal.
the map is wrong for including north western somalia in the zone
Somaliland? No it doesn't, there is no language listed in that area, it is merely just the curve of the line to surround the South Semitic languages
@@CheLanguages habibi, it is northern Somalia.
@@ciceroalexandar6184 Somaliland.....
I speak several antisemitic languages.
Bruh, I hope you're joking
Hi I’m first
Shalom First, I'm Yair!
No you’re not
@@alyaly2355 LOL