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I'm older and never had half these problems with exception of a very youthful "one-ittis" and shy around girls I liked--going promiscuous for a few yrs cured all that....put book in shopping cart finally anyway. :D
i would realy like to know.. you say men go and date multiple woman.. but woman dont date multiple men.. you said its another topic.. i would realy like to hear that.
My ex wife went from being with me for 26 years to moving in with her boyfriend in two months. I thanked him and send him a cigar and flowers every divorce anniversary
They’re all dating that same dude, you know the one you’re striving to become, except they are there already, whether born into it or made the money moves
gentleman this guy only knows half the story. society stopped setting you up for success. you should only trust half of what he says. it would be easier if he was total bullshit. but he’s not. bless you guys who are also focusing on yourself to be better to increase your personal MMV. you have to work way harder and be way luckier to end up with a successful marriage. i once talked to a discouraged party chick about the power of sex; the only force powerful enough to create humans. She replied that “sometimes sex is just sex. no big deal.” She was dumbfounded when i asked her “its no surprise that sex can lose its power; but after its lost its power, how does it get it back?” if anyone does read his book, read the bible too. take the hypergamy from him and your understanding of the bonding power of sex from the bible.
There was a joke about a woman telling another woman about her dream: "I want a man to be handsome, rich, athletic, witty, popular, good dresser, good f*ker, generious, I want him to love my children and to love me, to be faithful and devoted; but the main thing is I do not want all those men to know about each other".
This is a mistake I made in the past, becoming too invested in one girl too quickly. It's a terrible mistake to make but I did learn from it. I always date and talk to multiple girls at once now, and they are plentiful. Another lesson I learned which Rich touched on in this video is, the woman should always be the one who asks to become exclusive. If she wants me to stop spinning plates and just be with her she has to ask me and accept my response. A man should never ask a woman to become exclusive. She must always be required to come to him.
One thing I've learned about women is there is ALWAYS another guy. I don't care how strong you think your relationship is. She has a few Chads in her phone who she'll go to if you piss her off. Chad doesn't care if she's your girlfriend or wife. He'll invite her over to "chill".
If she does that dump her. Women with no integrity will drop you in a second. Not all women. True there is an orbiter but girls with morals will give you a shot. If she has any history or is dishonest who she is texting DUMP her! Seriously if she is a liar she is Chad chasing
This guy I know said his ex girlfriend who's 24 has a house and a kid with her boyfriend and she's still messaging him on the low about "meeting up", even though he's in a relationship and also has a kid now. It's insane how girls will never be happy with what they've got, and not only that, they also see that their ex is in a relationship and has a kid, but still shoot their shot.
When I was dating I never wanted a “girlfriend” or a “relationship” because I knew of this as a teenager. Pay attention, see the signs, and don’t let a nice pair throw you off your goals.
One thing I learned in life so far: No girl is so perfect that she cant be replaced. If she isnt treating you right, its better to see the red flags early rather than realizing 5 years later that she lost interest in you 4.5 years ago. Talking from experience. Those are some hard life lessons. If a girl makes you feel bad, leave. I left a girl after pining over her for 4 years. She was pretty and charming but she wasnt interested in a relationship. I wanted to be with her but realized that I had to go to protect myself and create new opportunities elsewhere. Since then, I never fell in the same trap again.
The more desperate and horny you are, the harder that will be. You will never get rid of horny, so you have to work on being desperate. TBH, most dudes won't be able to pull this off, and then they will be bitter and angry about blowing their chances.
"Women are never single." So simple, yet so true. You're always on a "The Bachelorette" dating show, you just don't realize that. They are always, at the VERY least, talking to 2-3 guys. And that's at the VERY least. It's usually many more.
Wow! I’m shocked that the men in these comments actually think this about women. Maybe I’m a strange woman or especially ugly lol but I am not talking to or dating any man and I haven’t for nearly 3 years. Men never approach me so I never go on dates or get asked for my number… maybe other women out there are sluts but please don’t think we all are. Also everything this guy is saying about men being is scarcity mind set and getting played by women is the exact same for women. Yes we should all date multiple people when it’s strictly just dating, but I can assure you when a woman is into a man she has no interest in other men. She might pretend she has if she feels the man doesn’t feel the same… but honestly not all women are like what this guy describes.
Hi! This Is a blanket statement. This channel seems negative and paranoid. Just be a nice person and date nice women and have the exclusivity talk when you (or her) realize they are different and special to you so you can lock them down.
i call on ALL men to delete all dating apps ... uninstall them all. it's time to take our choices back and this is a good place to start. watch what happens
I found out recently that there’s less males than females. This means males are more valuable and more rare. WHY THE FUCK are males acting like females are the rare treasure?!?!
“Women choose who they sleep with and men sleep with who they can.” Unless if the man is top tier, most guys will have a starving mindset with women. Most men may already know she is not the best option but will try to justify and complicate their life by force fitting her.
Thats why its important for a man to have things going for him. Not to impress women but there is a certain type of energy that women find attractive when a man is on his purpose.
Yeah, can't have that, for real. I've got standards for a woman, and I do my own stuff on the side. If she doesn't meet them then I'm not gonna beg or try to "change her", just move on. If it means a long search through dozens of them, so be it, but I'm not gonna waste my time with a woman who's not a decent human being
@@targetegrat Yep, true. I've got goals and ideals in mind, and while a great wife would be ideal for my plans to hopefully have kids, well, women won't be my priority as of now. Definitely have stuff going for me right now, for real 💯 so if any women want in on it later on, they gotta make the effort too. Men need to have higher standards, ask for what they're worth, cause many men undervalue themselves, and it's tragic
I see this line "Women are never single" everywhere and it's not that it's wrong, but there is one word at the beginning, that's always missing and it's "attractive".
I guess those do not count because those who are not attractive (at least in Eastern or in Central Europe) are not even visible. They are like ghosts, most men do not even see them even if they come to their face literally.
Ah no, you see, (pardon my prejudice) you will find that the fat goth girl is already married to a celebrity in her dreams, like a stalker, because of her inner beauty and chutzpah. There is a bonus layer, which is that you can make jokes with the less attractive ladies - they are allowed a sense of humour by the women's groups. Now... how's about this as an idea - why not go watch dating advice for women by women, if you really want to get the psychology... Don't listen to this guy, he's perfectly horrible. I am a fat lesbians. I'm not* but I might be** in fact I speak with the voice of the almighty, buried in my thighs, it's almighty nice to pull the left of the cosmos until the joke falls off (cue: "the front fell off" by Clarke and Dawe about concealment of negligence in the mining industry... mine's a conflict mineral hidden in a smartphone saying "help! Help! Get me out of here! It's haunted!"
Girls usually say that they are single, knowing that at any given time they want they can go back in the game and have a line of dudes begging for her attention ; On the other hand, when dudes say they are single, it's 100% true, because if they quit the game, no one is going to come and knock at their doors. So you have two different notions or perspectives on what being single is depending on who is talking.
" the average Joe downloads a dating app, gets a match then he goes all in on that girl" That's because the average Joe is lucky to get even a single match on the apps.
This is so true, I remember being in a gas station one time and there was an attractive woman in there and she was talking with the older guy behind the counter and being flirty. It was clear they had talked before and at least knew each other but also clear they were not an item. When the woman left a shopper who was noticing the woman asked the man behind the counter "she gotta boyfriend"? The man behind the counter said "they always do"...it was then I had the epiphany.
Women date like that all the time. They go out with one guy for coffee and then another guy for dinner and sex in the evening. I know this from multiple women and I saw it happen so many times. It totally blew my mind and I realised how stupid I was this whole time for over complicating my relations and going so far so fast in a relation instead of just chilling and doing what they do.
while this is true, women do NOT, I repeat do NOT have an abundance mindset like alpha males. If that were the case, male and female nature would be more similar. Women are afraid to be lonely, and will go after another guy if they can't seem to tie down the alpha with the abundance mindset with whom they deeply desire. This is called monkey branching. In fact, they will even settle with the 2nd or 3rd option until their 1st becomes available and drop him on a whim. Moreover, it is not like it is difficult for women to get another guy since they are the guardians to their own gate and since they are the ones responsible for committing to dates. You make some valid points by showing how women's actions make it seem like they live in a life of abundance. They simply love attention. They will talk to guys they have absolutely zero intent of going out or sleeping with via text or dating apps. That is NOT an abundance mindset. That is manipulation for them to receive validation through attention. Can we stop backing female nature like it is some religious doctrine and as men select for better traits in women?
ironically everyone's grandparents did courting. It was basically radical ruthless plate spinning. only difference was no one got physical or if they did it was on the lowdown.
@@dogsandyoga1743 He does...belongs right in the streets with his logic. It's just red pilled nonsense that these clown dudes want to hear to justify their trash behavior.
@@georgesontag2192 at what point do you determine to let one or two of them go? Especially if you are searching for a wife. It shouldn't take that long to figure out if some is compatible or worthy.
This is so true. I was with a woman for 2 years and we stopped talking for 2 months and we ended up talking again and she admitted to me she went on 8 dates with 8 different men. I was shocked… either she had those men as back up or she was serial dating whoever asked her to date. Either way it turned me off and made me realize women r for the community now.. I never took any woman serious since. Thanks for the message!
Every ex girlfriend or afair I had was immediately dating other guys or even got a relationship the next weeks or months after our break up. She is never yours, it's only your turn.
@@aspalt228gold doesn’t matter if she was single. The fact that she bounced around like that within 2 months shows there’s a possibility of her collecting more bodies to her count matters and is a complete turn off.
@@blair5475 oh I already know that I’m 34 years old I’ve been in the market long enough to know how these women operate. I am not a bird brain to this here game
You need to be a player if you want an LTR that is 100% spot on. Funny thing, when my parents asked me how my dating life is going and I told them I'm spinning plates, they completely lost it on me. Told me it's very immoral and that I should see only one girl at a time. I love em dearly but they're dead wrong about that.
I think its the shock really, they were raised in a more ideal time when not all guys had to be players Now I see that if you're not one, then many women somehow see that as "weak" or "not manly", even if all a guy wants is a good wife and mother to his kids. But hey, if spinning plates with how ever many women is the only way to keep a lady attracted with you, or rather "the thought that you COULD cheat if you wanted too", well, so be it. Just treat them as a friend and no more, and they'll treat you better for it. Crazy how inverted/backwards so many of their minds work tbh, finding a sane one is like a needle in a haystack It's like they WANT what's not best for them, it's all "in the moment" stuff for them
Spinning plates is fine, but do not tell whoever you are dating that you are spinning plates. You spinning plates is for your OWN mindset! Dont sit there and have the nerve to rub it in your dates face. You can carry yourself as if you have abundance, you can act as if you have abundance, but dont tell her, you wont get anywhere with it.
On the contrary. I make sure they know its going on behind their back. I just never do it in their face. Some of them have asked me about my conquests because it turns them on to hear those stories.
Had a crush on this girl a few years ago. She had a background in comedy (major coping mechanism for a lot of women/people who have daddy issues or had sad upbringings). She would create characters and make silly scripted videos acting as them. One day she told me she was gonna make a fake dating profile as one of her characters. She answered all the survey questions jokingly and chose silly pictures of herself dressed as the character. Do you think that prevented hundreds of men from matching with her? Nope. She received hundreds if not thousands of matches ON A JOKE dating profile. It's a losing game, boys. And we're all playing whether we realize it or not. Stay safe out there, gentlemen. And remember, there isn't a woman alive that's worth your peace of mind.
The one thing I learned too late in life is that when something seems wrong with the girl you’re dating, get the hell out of there. Don’t look back, don’t try your best to figure her out, don’t try harder to please her. If she isn’t 100% into you you are not going to by some wave of the wand change that.
@@Notfiveo0 it's so true. I recently had to walk away from a woman because things just stopped making sense and no amount of talking about it is gonna fix things. If you feel that somethings wrong, I believe you should address it, but if things don't change after you've addressed it then just leave.
@@Notfiveo0, that's been my advice to many people over the years. Most WON'T take the advice, though, I've found. If you "need" her too much, your relationship will have all the power vested in HER, which is a recipe for disaster.
Why men are so resistant to the idea that women can never be trusted because they are always open to the next best deal…. Blows my mind! Stop! Giving you undying loyalty to someone who will never earn it is just silly!!
That's because they (woman) are made out to be perfectly innocent 'angels' that can do no wrong. You see it being portrayed in movies, tv shows, and other media outlets - women who do 'cheat' are always seen to be victims whereas men who are 'players' or have 'affairs' are seen as pigs and dirtbags....but they always forget to mention that these are the types of dudes that women love to be around! Everything is in reverse with the female mind..
Thats your western society problems in muslim or conservative countries when mariage forms a coupne its a link between their two families and its there to last
You have to remember that yes, you're poaching her from someone else. There's timed where YOU will be better than the other guy, and there's times where the other guys will be better than YOU. It's her preference. Forming a full on relationship that WORKS and for a good while, is actually kinda difficult. They end up revealing SOEMTHING fd up about themselves, and it ends.
I agree. If I go out with and sleep with a girl, she’s already met the basic criteria and is on “potential gf track”. It’s up to her to simply not F it up from that point….yet they almost ALWAYS manage to F it up.
@@usarmymedic07 this is very true. But what's happening, is the women take that exact same stance that you're taking. If a woman has genuine desire for you and not using you to waste time, get free stuff, you WILL know. They'll try to make u happy, they'll be thoughtful, kind etc. A woman has to love the man's character. His base character. This may change, but it suppose to _"Refine"_ over time. Honed in and slowly improve. He grows into a very great Man. As long as he stays true to himself, she will "Always" have attraction for you. Even if something better may come along, she can't see herself without YOU in it. It feels daunting to her. Dread. Fear. Hopeless and very sad. She will easily cut out the world, just for YOU. This means she's content and happy. Feminist have corrupted and eroded away the word "content" and shamed a woman labeling her as "settling". This is why they don't like being content. They must be deprived of the spoils they have, so they can find a new appreciation for them. Sets a marker in their minds from that point on. _"I better not do THAT. Last time I lost EVERYTHING and life sucked very badly for me. Let me behave myself. I'm not a teenager, I'm a full grown woman now."_
Spinning plates is what I learned from dating apps. I'd go some time without any matches then I'd get 2-3 matches at once. I'd chat with those women for several days, getting to know them and then inviting them on a date. Once I had two dates in one day, one in the morning, one in the evening. The next day I had one more date in the morning, but by then I was emotionally tired :D and I didn't even plan it that way, but that's the free time those 3 women had for me. I'm not bragging either, I didn't sleep with any of those women, I'm looking for something more. It's good for the mental health though. It's good to feel you're in the game and trying. Even with mixed results, you're still in it and not wasting your time alone at home, feeling worthless. You get to know yourself better, your priorities become clearer, and you see the variety of personalities all around you.
I think alot of men mistakenly believe most women are like their mom so they put them on pedestals ignoring that most modern women themselves are natural plate spinners. EIC is right; women are never single so spin those plates men!
This is just a tragic viewpoint... No, there are many women who are NOT "plate spinners" as you call them, and if you are spinning too many plates you will end up with nothing but broken china. There are many women who are like your moms - honest, faithful, and committed. Perhaps it is where you are looking that is the issue.. But spinning plates gets one nowhere.
You are so right. A girl/ woman will never stop looking around for other men till she find a man who has “everything” she wants a man to have. I am talking about material things. It does not matter if a man is nice, the best listener, can understand her, can walk with her and look for shoes/shopping for hours… she will stay with the man who has the biggest house, the largest apartment, has the best financial/ social status, unless she is 30 + and still have no children, then she start to become more desperate to find a man. The only time when HOW a man is, nice, good listener and so on, becomes important, is when she had children with this financial /high status man, and she is over 40, and divorce, and does not want more children. That is the time when a woman is mature enough to look for a nice man, who does not necessarily have a big house etc. of course there are more men to every woman. We men are not looking for the same as women are. A man can be a doctor but marry a nurse, or a pilot can marry a stewardess. But a female doctor would never even date a male nurse, also because of her friends will say “you can get a so much better man then him”.. in a sense a much more “successful and rich” man. “Men are looking for beauty, and women are looking for money to secure her offspring”. And it does not matter if she is successful herself. She will always look for a man who is in “same or higher” social and financial situation as herself is. And no “feminism” has changed that. When I was a pilot, I could date women who were engineers, doctors and even law graduates. When I was driving bus, no one in that category of women even wanted to know me. So I have experienced this at first hand. I am the SAME man, nice, good listener and have the patience to go out shopping for ours. But it does not matter unless you have a profession and the MONEY: that comes with it. Sad, but true.
Another important thing to note is that even if you are only seeing one woman, whether casually or as a girlfriend/wife, she must always BELIEVE you have other options. She needs to SEE you flirt with other women, she needs to be fearful of her chances to keep you all to herself all of the time. Every time I reflect on the subject of preselection, it goes up in my list of importance when it comes to things a man needs to obtain a woman's monogamous investment. So much so that if a woman you're seeing views you as her ultimate alpha and she asks you whether you're seeing/interacting with other women, if you give her a flat-out no, her attraction for you will DIE in that exact moment if not shortly thereafter. The social circle/hierachy is a woman's ENTIRE existence. They are created by nature to maintain the cohesion and unity of the group, as individuals they are completely worthless and they all know it. This is not a blight on women, this is just an objective, facts-and-science based description of the truth. Every single decision a woman will ever make will require verification by friends, family, colleagues, you name it... she needs to be reminded WHY you are her ultimate alpha, and the best way to cement that in her mind is to have other women that want you.
The man I wanted seriously for the first time in my life got options but I didn’t cared that much, I don’t know why. Once he even asked me if I cared and got confused when I said no. Maybe I was not in the right moment mentally but that was funny asf lol
Soooooo true, hilarious. Every guy spends weeks assessing the pros and cons of cars. 12 levels of in-depth comparison and analysis, but no time whatsover evaluating women.
Most guys really do need to realise that most women will always be in communication with other guys, even ones that are in relationships or married. It could be an ex or a potential future conquest, or even just a thirsty admirer they will communicate with to get some kind of validation. It was also a great point about the social media of women, as social media accounts for men and women are completely different. The only way most guys could understand this would be if they were to create a female profile to see what it’s like then be shocked by the tons of daily messages from thirsty strangers saying they love you and want to talk to you and of course loads of dick pics. It is a totally different world, and that’s why women get so addicted especially to things like Instagram as it gives them the validation they need so bad. Another thing I think guys need to understand is that most if not all women could go and be intimate with another guy and not give a damn about you or how you feel. As they are just acting on emotion in the moment, this is why a lot of guys struggle to go with other women. As they are not programmed that way. It’s kind of true what they say about Cats being like women as you can try to keep one as a pet but the minute it gets outside it will just go and find a better parent/family who will take care of it and give it all it needs. Where as dogs are more loyal like men for the most part. And don’t ever think they are sweet and innocent either. Just some good pointers.
Had a stay kitten walk into our house one summer. We fed it, cared for it and outright took it in. When my brother and his wife moved in next door for a year (internship) the cat figured out they would feed it indiscriminately. Cat ended up spending more time over there than at home. When my brother moved out a year later he and wife asked if they could keep the cat. We happily let it go with them. That’s how you should deal with women who start eating off of someone else’s plate.
I agree that when a guy pines for a woman he just met, it's a red flag. I had a guy say to me, "I wish I could share my [physical] pain with you." I had only known this guy for approximately two weeks at the time and it freaked me out, because he never asked questions that would allow him to get to know me as a person. It was a red flag that spelled the beginning of an unhealthy relationship, because he was getting too intimate and too personal way too fast before I knew him and he knew me.
I liked this answer. I’m 34 no kids never married with plenty of options. Still I have this desire to find one women. That being said I usually feel guilt when going on multiple dates in a week toward a woman I was starting to like. I then find a woman I like more. This video makes me feel great about the path I’m on. Keep in mind once red pulled, blue pill tendencies always want to creep back in. I keep watching your videos to stay red pill strong
And women have been using this for ages, but to satisfy their hypergamy. I am 39 and I remember dating an older female when I was 16 that clearly explained her positive view of casual dating. She was basically spinning plates, just with a different name.
I been with a lot of females that always ended up having a boyfriend or they were talking and getting to know dudes. I remember one time this chick finished a date with a nice guy who took her out to eat and then I got called up hours later to clap her cheeks and she even told me she was entertaining him for free food. Even married women be cheating out here. She can be single or in a relationship but they always got dudes in the sidelines or looking for a replacement in case things go bad with you.
Lol i remember the brain surgeon who's wife had an escort service going for years. He made millions and she still was on the C Carousel even after marriage
@@nathansky6513 Go overseas to South America or Africa or Asia and make sure that country you are picking don’t have bad marriage laws like the one in the USA that make men lose all there assets even with prenup. And make sure the women you find is family oriented has a job and is not influenced by social media nonsense.
@@RealJayNice Nothing but the truth! If you really want someone to make a home with look at those countries. Easier to find one than in a western country
The funny thing about men who competently and successfully spin plates to avoid committing pre-maturely, is that they are the ones who actually appreciate the seriousness and consequences of a monogamous relationship. People will accuse them of having no appreciation for monogamy, when in reality it is precisely the opposite. That's why they do it. An LTR is a catastrophe waiting to unfold unless the boundaries and expectations are clearly defined with someone who's all in and capable of walking their talk. It's basically marriage without the legal liability, and thus not to be taken lightly.
It's crazy...I did this in high school and thought I found the one. I dated different girls but found one I put in all the effort with and we ended off on a bad note. Afterwards I stopped dating with effort entirely.(about 7 years) I'm not a big muscular guy or some rich kid, but this has been more of a hard wakeup call to the soul tbh. Like I got a little mad at myself because of how on point this is. You nailed it on the head though and I thank you for making this upload :)
Personally loyalty means everything to me. I have never dated more than one man. I rarely date anymore, because there's always some scam. I haven't bothered dating in years. I see how unhealthy hook up culture is. Why would I want that mess in my life for myself or in others? I want what doesn't seem to exist in today's hustle culture a real emotional connection. I'm probably wasting my time stating this. I prefer a friend before a relationship is considered. I'm old fashioned, I guess. My Personal peace comes first, if you bring all kinds of self created problems into my life, I'll probably leave. I like to help, but there's a point where it's just who they are and I know better than to think I can change someone's habits. I learned this from dealings with family over the years. You can't help someone who won't help themselves too.
I agree with most of what you are saying. As an older man, I dated for two years and around 200 women in that time. For me, dating doesn't mean sex. It is only dating and getting to know the person. Often times, I would not allow it to get past the first date. There were even times when the woman I was seeing wanted intimacy and when I said no, I was called all kinds of names and my sexual preferences were often challenged. I didn't want to get into the intimacy part until I was sure the woman in question was the one I wanted to be in a relationship with. Many women could not wrap their head around the idea that I was choosing the woman in my life and I was not the one being chosen, where I was settling for a woman I did not want. I am very successful financially. I own my home outright and I have very good morals but I also dated 5 to 7 women at a time. It was quite exhausting. I finally did find the woman I wanted. She does everything for me and she is very feminine, never argues and is very fit.
@Archabolt i get what you are saying. And i think there are men out there that value the 'spiritual' part of the relation more than the sexual part. I say that because i for one do. Obviously I like sex, but plain sex just doesnt do it for me. I had friends with benefits twice. Both times i gave up on them because meaningless sex is just not satisfying me at all. I seek that friendship connection. I think most of this hook up culture is because of our times of social media and all those advertisements that make it a very materialistic world.
Wise words. A lady colleague at work was telling me how she receives 100 likes every day on a dating app, and over 2500 likes every month. She told me exactly what Richard says, it fine to date more than one person. This has changed my way of thinking for the better.
@@negroantonio28 That's how you end up with a piece of sh 1t scumbag society. If she asks if you are "spinning plates" tell her. Don't lie, don't make fake promises you don't know you can hold. Same applies to women. You are dating other guys at the moment? If you get askes and lie about it you are a p o s. Saying "it's none of your business" "I don't wanna talk about it" are always options. Big lies like that are not acceptable.
@@negroantonio28 telling a woman what she wants to hear doesn't separate you from other men. you want to be different from the other thousands of guys, that tellings her the same lines "ur special or i cant live w/o babe"over & over
So much wisdom packed into such a concise package. Wish I had practiced this years and years ago. The part about so many guys getting too excited about and focusing on one woman really resonated with me. Thanks a lot for this.
i dont care if you are rich, middle class, poor, or even completely homeless vagrant. No woman is loyal completely, its not wise to totally devote yourself to one. Any time down the road she will blow it all up and leave you holding the bag.
"holding the bag" - like what? If they leave, NEXT and so on. Not sure her leaving or me leaving her would be any different. Just keep all financial items separate
I’ve had my fill of crazies for the last few decades as well. It was like a parade of routine, useless broken American whores for 15 years. Now I have a peaceful, pleasant life with no lunatics or NPCs👍🏻✌🏻
"Nice guys finish last" has been around a long time for many reasons. If you're a nice guy, it can be hard to change that, but 'nice' can be nuanced in ways.
It's good to finish last if that means you're not tied to bimbos, narcissists, and predatory manipulators. There is victory in losing out on all the garbage and unsublimated illusions.
I've watched Rich's entire video. I was in a relationship with a woman for a long time. Never got married. We broke up after more than a decade of being together. What Rich had said in this video is very concerning. If I were to date again, according to Rich, the woman is likely seeing other men. Nothing new, but I'm used to being with one woman. With what Rich has said, I'd rather live alone. I don't want to go through the disappointment of thinking this one woman likes me, only to find out she has stopped talking to me because she was dating someone else, too, and chose that other guy. I don't really need a woman in my life, especially if we're going to go through a lot of arguing, whining, and nagging. I'll wait for the right one, and if I have to wait a lifetime, oh well.
If you date multiple women, the odds of that disappointment diminish. It sounds like you are going in too deep from the start. Whether she accepts you should be a secondary goal. The primary goal is to find the most acceptable one, to you. And the more women you date, the better your chances of that.
@@brunetteordie agreed that’s my game plan too and just be open to the other dates that your meeting other women too (that is if they ask since no obligations or commitments as Rich mentioned in the video..)
@@angiehitch6807 Thank you for that hope. I, myself, if I were to go out with a female, I'd be available to her only. I'm not going to go "female-shopping". Going female-shopping (dating) maybe the efficient way to go for a lot of guys and girls, but I wouldn't be able to do it. I've got hobbies, an important job, a house to clean, and last but not least, mental resetting (sleep) to do, that I don't have time to go out with several women. I understand I'm missing out on potential mates, but I'm not going to lose my mind over females.
@@joebeta1837 I am glad that there is good men out there like yourself joe! Not all women are like that. this is just insane This Society lacks morals/values it’s just shameful smh 🤦♀️
I didn't know that I was an alpha male when I was young. After two 4 year relationships I became a Beta. You just reminded me of who I was. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've taken my Red 💊.
Ok guys, I’m 61 years old and I’ve been around. Listen to this fellow. I know of what he speaks and every word is truth. Had I realized this decades ago my life would have been far better. It’s too late for me. But not for you. So pay attention!
I am 61 myself, no children and never married. I feel NO regret about being single and I learned no woman is worth the time when she flakes. Change the way you think and motivate to be a better person.
I think it’s important to note that dating multiple people is vital to your own mental health your not over investing and depending on the person’s you are dating they have an agenda to move things quickly to have you become more invested to eliminate competition. I was dating 3 different women just coffee and conversations and two of them after two months were already expecting a a full relationship status. I set boundaries and found out all 3 were single parents. I was not sleeping with anyone. I like to get to know people for 3-4 months before I do anything for this reason. I gave up dating the normal way. I have a girlfriend from my Harley owners group that I was just mates with and went on rides with as part of the chapter.
It's actually to your advantage not to hide that you're seeing multiple women. It will spur their sense of competition as all women want what another woman has.
I am an old married lady. I don't get it: back in the day it was just assummed men and women were spinning plates and often times it was explicitly communicated. Too many games being played now days.
9:10 I agree with 95 % of what you have to say and teach. In this case I don't agree. I've had an incredible amount of success telling the women I'm dating that I'm actively dating. The first question they each have asked every time is "how many?" I don't answer directly because I've shown the level of respect they are entitled and they're really not entitled to know more. I'll say the truth but not give numbers. I'm going on dates with some and some I'm in the first date stage. or just started talking. In each case they've thanked me for being candid and each asked the same question again..."Will you please let me know if you are getting serious with another person?" I always say "yes of course. I'm trying to keep it real and respectful." The question I have after I tell them is, "Are you going to show me the same respect ? OR are you going to do the same exact thing I'm doing except lie to each guy your dating that your not dating anybody else?" About 10% told me they're dating other people too when I'm sure it was 100% of them were dating other people. You know what happened and what happens? Some will say thank you and then act in a way that says they will leave without it being exclusive yet no conversation about exclusivity has taken place... but they don't really leave. They're pretending to try to gain control. Don't let them. If they try to take control let them go. But most will fall in line and actually be ok with you dating other women as long as you're not exclusive. In most cases the women become MORE interested in you. They instinctively know you're a high quality Man if so many women are also interested AND because you aren't a needed beta boy who can't walk away. The importance of self respect is critical to being a healthy Man. So just because you, or me, or anybody has the option to fuck them all doesn't mean you should. That may seem like a good idea, but it's not. That's a porn fantasy and you're not a porn star, and you shouldn't try to be. You'll end up hurting a lot of people starting with yourself.
“It’s impossible to develop an unhealthy connection if you’re dating more than one woman at a time” Facts. It’s amazing that men need to be told not to fixate on one woman… it’s only natural to sample and compare in all aspects of life.
Women are never single, many of my dates already have a boyfriend or husband, at that time it didn't bother me, I enjoyed it and so did they. Listen to Cooper !!
The last two women I dated made way more money than I did. The first relationship lasted six months and she ended up leaving because she was tired of being the one with more money. The second one dated me for three years and I don’t know why exactly she left but I do know that me making less money was part of it. It really motivated me and inspired me to build my business and put the pressure on. I somehow attracted financially wealthy women into my life twice in a row. Thanks for all that you share
Awesome advice...this is definitely the way to go moving forward having experienced what I have in the past. All it takes is acknowledging there's no wrong being done playing the game the same way they do...after all, these girls do the exact same thing but only so very naturally without any notion of guilt...two can play😉!
....I've had many cars the last 32 years, but only 1 wife...we're both in our fifties, married at 21. So yeah, I'm the one who went all in on one. Love is much more than a pleasant emotional feeling. What did i get for that 32 years with the same woman...3 daughters, 1 son...2 sons in law, 1 daughter in law, 2 grandsons, and 1 granddaughter...all worth it, especially at the holidays
A big thanks to Rich ! His book is simple, easy to read and is very popular now. It's like red pill in a nutshell for the public. Very good contribution.
I was watching someone else's video covering Tik Tok videos and one girl showed: She had downloaded Bumble the night before, and she was maybe a 7 in looks. She showed her phone in the morning and she had over 1800 messages waiting.
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I'm older and never had half these problems with exception of a very youthful "one-ittis" and shy around girls I liked--going promiscuous for a few yrs cured all that....put book in shopping cart finally anyway. :D
Dating IS the mistake!! U are like an atheist schilling for the Vatican!! U know nothing is there so why bother?
i would realy like to know.. you say men go and date multiple woman.. but woman dont date multiple men.. you said its another topic.. i would realy like to hear that.
@@soydansogukcesme470 He said "'it's a given that women ARE dating multiple men'"...how'd you manage to get that backwards?
You will never achieve happiness through a woman. Find your life purpose and go fo it. Women will follow, if not, you'll still be happy
Best comment I've seen here so far.
Well said brother!!!
Untrue… married my high school sweetheart at 20 years old, best decision I ever made. She is a massive source of my happiness!
@@zbrown72 but not true for all of us.
True for men and women
My ex wife went from being with me for 26 years to moving in with her boyfriend in two months. I thanked him and send him a cigar and flowers every divorce anniversary
That's epic
😂
Beautiful
he must be thinking damn what'd she do?
Nice work.
I’ve been single now for over five years and to be honest I’ve given up on the dating scene.These days I just focus on myself.
Unintentionally single
They’re all dating that same dude, you know the one you’re striving to become, except they are there already, whether born into it or made the money moves
23 and I've never ever been in the dating scene
Same 😁
gentleman this guy only knows half the story. society stopped setting you up for success. you should only trust half of what he says. it would be easier if he was total bullshit. but he’s not.
bless you guys who are also focusing on yourself to be better to increase your personal MMV.
you have to work way harder and be way luckier to end up with a successful marriage.
i once talked to a discouraged party chick about the power of sex; the only force powerful enough to create humans. She replied that “sometimes sex is just sex. no big deal.”
She was dumbfounded when i asked her “its no surprise that sex can lose its power; but after its lost its power, how does it get it back?”
if anyone does read his book, read the bible too. take the hypergamy from him and your understanding of the bonding power of sex from the bible.
There was a joke about a woman telling another woman about her dream: "I want a man to be handsome, rich, athletic, witty, popular, good dresser, good f*ker, generious, I want him to love my children and to love me, to be faithful and devoted; but the main thing is I do not want all those men to know about each other".
Original🙄 ......wow
🤔😁
They got betas during the week and Alphas on the weekends too.
Looking for Mr Right is more of Mr Right now
@@metalmike570they also make rules for betas and break rules for alphas
This is a mistake I made in the past, becoming too invested in one girl too quickly. It's a terrible mistake to make but I did learn from it. I always date and talk to multiple girls at once now, and they are plentiful. Another lesson I learned which Rich touched on in this video is, the woman should always be the one who asks to become exclusive. If she wants me to stop spinning plates and just be with her she has to ask me and accept my response. A man should never ask a woman to become exclusive. She must always be required to come to him.
Exactly, she has to ask for the commitment given she is the one who has it 30,000% easier finding sex. Only then can she "cheat".
Easy since majority men checking out. Don’t blame them
FACTS…. I’ve made the mistake and it’s unattractive to women when guys ask the girl to be exclusive
I do exactly the same and I´m a woman😂😂😂and I also made the exact same mistakes😉
The fact that the world got to this that exclusivity has to be asked at all, is sad. Humans are disgusting.
"See women don't want to be with a guy that nobody wants."
All so true.
Story of my life haha
Well this generation is diffrent
Idk if anyone wants me
They are disgusting people
Cause she can’t brag about it to other women.
One thing I've learned about women is there is ALWAYS another guy. I don't care how strong you think your relationship is. She has a few Chads in her phone who she'll go to if you piss her off. Chad doesn't care if she's your girlfriend or wife. He'll invite her over to "chill".
If she does that dump her. Women with no integrity will drop you in a second. Not all women. True there is an orbiter but girls with morals will give you a shot. If she has any history or is dishonest who she is texting DUMP her! Seriously if she is a liar she is Chad chasing
Not true
This guy I know said his ex girlfriend who's 24 has a house and a kid with her boyfriend and she's still messaging him on the low about "meeting up", even though he's in a relationship and also has a kid now. It's insane how girls will never be happy with what they've got, and not only that, they also see that their ex is in a relationship and has a kid, but still shoot their shot.
What if "Chad's" just stopped doing that? Would the world be a better place?
@@cccbeats_ wild
When I was dating I never wanted a “girlfriend” or a “relationship” because I knew of this as a teenager. Pay attention, see the signs, and don’t let a nice pair throw you off your goals.
I had a nice pear the other day. That'll do.
Word! Women are goal kryptonite
It's hard to tell when one that respects you likes you. I can appreciate the quiet ones.
@@JeffreyGillespie yep. you need to focus.
Damn nice pair 😉 can be titillating and distracting
One thing I learned in life so far: No girl is so perfect that she cant be replaced. If she isnt treating you right, its better to see the red flags early rather than realizing 5 years later that she lost interest in you 4.5 years ago. Talking from experience. Those are some hard life lessons. If a girl makes you feel bad, leave. I left a girl after pining over her for 4 years. She was pretty and charming but she wasnt interested in a relationship. I wanted to be with her but realized that I had to go to protect myself and create new opportunities elsewhere. Since then, I never fell in the same trap again.
Abundance mindset.
Chuck norris doesn't date. He makes children by himself.
Great job man,, god bless😤😤💪🏽👏🏽
Yeah that's a bad sign right there: If you're pining, she's not synchronizing and you want her too much.
The more desperate and horny you are, the harder that will be. You will never get rid of horny, so you have to work on being desperate. TBH, most dudes won't be able to pull this off, and then they will be bitter and angry about blowing their chances.
"Women are never single." So simple, yet so true. You're always on a "The Bachelorette" dating show, you just don't realize that. They are always, at the VERY least, talking to 2-3 guys. And that's at the VERY least. It's usually many more.
Wow! I’m shocked that the men in these comments actually think this about women. Maybe I’m a strange woman or especially ugly lol but I am not talking to or dating any man and I haven’t for nearly 3 years. Men never approach me so I never go on dates or get asked for my number… maybe other women out there are sluts but please don’t think we all are. Also everything this guy is saying about men being is scarcity mind set and getting played by women is the exact same for women. Yes we should all date multiple people when it’s strictly just dating, but I can assure you when a woman is into a man she has no interest in other men. She might pretend she has if she feels the man doesn’t feel the same… but honestly not all women are like what this guy describes.
Hi! This Is a blanket statement. This channel seems negative and paranoid. Just be a nice person and date nice women and have the exclusivity talk when you (or her) realize they are different and special to you so you can lock them down.
@@yeahdallasSaying pretty much the same thing, you just say it more eloquently. ;
@@yeahdallaslmfao who tf are you💀💀💀💀 hope nobody listened to the bs you just wrote lmao
Well said 👏👏
i call on ALL men to delete all dating apps ... uninstall them all. it's time to take our choices back and this is a good place to start. watch what happens
I wish they would do that AND .....STOP friggin' simping !! This is why even the most mediocre woman tends to have a huge ego !
I found out recently that there’s less males than females. This means males are more valuable and more rare.
WHY THE FUCK are males acting like females are the rare treasure?!?!
@@kevinward3088 exactly pimpin never simpin
Imagine all men in the world stopped giving af about vvomen and their needs? B* es would literally die.
lmao imagine everyone would do that and stop liking girls pictures on Instagram. mass suicide 😂
She’s never yours, it’s just your turn
to clap her cheeks before the man on her phone texts her and she hops on him next while telling you she has to go home early for "work" tomorrow
Boom 💥
Now you know why the Bible say's men should rule over them.
BRAVO. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Upvote for you. Here you go.
POW!
“Women choose who they sleep with and men sleep with who they can.” Unless if the man is top tier, most guys will have a starving mindset with women. Most men may already know she is not the best option but will try to justify and complicate their life by force fitting her.
Thats why its important for a man to have things going for him. Not to impress women but there is a certain type of energy that women find attractive when a man is on his purpose.
Hmmm, wonder how all those jobless non-top tier guys managed to find women they impregnated.🤔
Yeah, can't have that, for real. I've got standards for a woman, and I do my own stuff on the side. If she doesn't meet them then I'm not gonna beg or try to "change her", just move on.
If it means a long search through dozens of them, so be it, but I'm not gonna waste my time with a woman who's not a decent human being
And we decide when to make her our girlfriend wife. We have more power
@@targetegrat
Yep, true. I've got goals and ideals in mind, and while a great wife would be ideal for my plans to hopefully have kids, well, women won't be my priority as of now.
Definitely have stuff going for me right now, for real 💯 so if any women want in on it later on, they gotta make the effort too. Men need to have higher standards, ask for what they're worth, cause many men undervalue themselves, and it's tragic
I see this line "Women are never single" everywhere and it's not that it's wrong, but there is one word at the beginning, that's always missing and it's "attractive".
I guess those do not count because those who are not attractive (at least in Eastern or in Central Europe) are not even visible. They are like ghosts, most men do not even see them even if they come to their face literally.
Even ugly women have men thirsting for them.
Ah no, you see, (pardon my prejudice) you will find that the fat goth girl is already married to a celebrity in her dreams, like a stalker, because of her inner beauty and chutzpah. There is a bonus layer, which is that you can make jokes with the less attractive ladies - they are allowed a sense of humour by the women's groups.
Now... how's about this as an idea - why not go watch dating advice for women by women, if you really want to get the psychology...
Don't listen to this guy, he's perfectly horrible.
I am a fat lesbians. I'm not* but I might be** in fact I speak with the voice of the almighty, buried in my thighs, it's almighty nice to pull the left of the cosmos until the joke falls off (cue: "the front fell off" by Clarke and Dawe about concealment of negligence in the mining industry... mine's a conflict mineral hidden in a smartphone saying "help! Help! Get me out of here! It's haunted!"
Girls usually say that they are single, knowing that at any given time they want they can go back in the game and have a line of dudes begging for her attention ;
On the other hand, when dudes say they are single, it's 100% true, because if they quit the game, no one is going to come and knock at their doors.
So you have two different notions or perspectives on what being single is depending on who is talking.
" the average Joe downloads a dating app, gets a match then he goes all in on that girl"
That's because the average Joe is lucky to get even a single match on the apps.
this is 100 percent correct. i’ve seen it happen to multiple friends of mine
thats true lol
Then become Better than Average. Be the best you that you can be.
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica amen 🙏
Dating apps are eventually going to become passe when a critical mass of average men come to realise they don't work for them.
This is so true, I remember being in a gas station one time and there was an attractive woman in there and she was talking with the older guy behind the counter and being flirty. It was clear they had talked before and at least knew each other but also clear they were not an item. When the woman left a shopper who was noticing the woman asked the man behind the counter "she gotta boyfriend"? The man behind the counter said "they always do"...it was then I had the epiphany.
Really, an epiphany? You hear people say shit like that all the time about women.
THIS IS SAD. SO MANY JADED MEN ON HERE, PERHAPS THAT'S WHY THEY ARE WATCHING THIS CHANNEL.
@@LindaLovesLofts - jaded? Experience will do that.
@@LindaLovesLofts So why are YOU watching?
@@LindaLovesLofts Nah your in the far side of this spectrum, he's just declassified information we all knew but NOW it's declassified 🤣
Women date like that all the time. They go out with one guy for coffee and then another guy for dinner and sex in the evening. I know this from multiple women and I saw it happen so many times. It totally blew my mind and I realised how stupid I was this whole time for over complicating my relations and going so far so fast in a relation instead of just chilling and doing what they do.
Rich said once "a woman will keep her rules for a beta and break them for an alpha". How true
I'm the guy for dinner and sex in the evening, and it ain't fun to be used as an object....NOT. lol
while this is true, women do NOT, I repeat do NOT have an abundance mindset like alpha males. If that were the case, male and female nature would be more similar. Women are afraid to be lonely, and will go after another guy if they can't seem to tie down the alpha with the abundance mindset with whom they deeply desire. This is called monkey branching. In fact, they will even settle with the 2nd or 3rd option until their 1st becomes available and drop him on a whim. Moreover, it is not like it is difficult for women to get another guy since they are the guardians to their own gate and since they are the ones responsible for committing to dates.
You make some valid points by showing how women's actions make it seem like they live in a life of abundance. They simply love attention. They will talk to guys they have absolutely zero intent of going out or sleeping with via text or dating apps. That is NOT an abundance mindset. That is manipulation for them to receive validation through attention. Can we stop backing female nature like it is some religious doctrine and as men select for better traits in women?
bro they saying "just chill" we mens r emotional fools always
Are you serious? Such women are sheer losers.
I'm Not Looking Anymore I'm Done
ironically everyone's grandparents did courting. It was basically radical ruthless plate spinning. only difference was no one got physical or if they did it was on the lowdown.
What a disgrace!!! Comparing starting a relationship with a women with buying a new car. Cars are sacred man.
Lol
Had me in the first half.
It sounds like the idea of "spinning plates" is what used to be known as "playing the field. "
He's for the streets 😂
trash.... no self-respecting woman with class and morals wants a dude who is a player. It's a 100% turn off.
@@dogsandyoga1743 He does...belongs right in the streets with his logic. It's just red pilled nonsense that these clown dudes want to hear to justify their trash behavior.
I have dated 4 or 5 women at one time. It's a big aggravation. Expensive, time consuming, mental drain...... I chose not to do that again.
@@georgesontag2192 at what point do you determine to let one or two of them go? Especially if you are searching for a wife. It shouldn't take that long to figure out if some is compatible or worthy.
This is so true. I was with a woman for 2 years and we stopped talking for 2 months and we ended up talking again and she admitted to me she went on 8 dates with 8 different men. I was shocked… either she had those men as back up or she was serial dating whoever asked her to date. Either way it turned me off and made me realize women r for the community now.. I never took any woman serious since. Thanks for the message!
Every ex girlfriend or afair I had was immediately dating other guys or even got a relationship the next weeks or months after our break up. She is never yours, it's only your turn.
But she’s single...? U guys broke up right?
@@aspalt228gold doesn’t matter if she was single. The fact that she bounced around like that within 2 months shows there’s a possibility of her collecting more bodies to her count matters and is a complete turn off.
I'm sorry to tell you this but she was also dating some of those men/other guys while she was with you.
@@blair5475 oh I already know that I’m 34 years old I’ve been in the market long enough to know how these women operate. I am not a bird brain to this here game
When woman says I am single, I am hearing she is seeing multiple guys
"You are poaching them from some other guy anyway". Invaluable truth. 100% true.
You need to be a player if you want an LTR that is 100% spot on. Funny thing, when my parents asked me how my dating life is going and I told them I'm spinning plates, they completely lost it on me. Told me it's very immoral and that I should see only one girl at a time. I love em dearly but they're dead wrong about that.
Don’t sweat them, they’re tied up in Bluepill myths like the majority of people.
Tell them times have changed.
@@AbhishekKumar7
Well, what if they're religious?
I think its the shock really, they were raised in a more ideal time when not all guys had to be players
Now I see that if you're not one, then many women somehow see that as "weak" or "not manly", even if all a guy wants is a good wife and mother to his kids.
But hey, if spinning plates with how ever many women is the only way to keep a lady attracted with you, or rather "the thought that you COULD cheat if you wanted too", well, so be it. Just treat them as a friend and no more, and they'll treat you better for it.
Crazy how inverted/backwards so many of their minds work tbh, finding a sane one is like a needle in a haystack
It's like they WANT what's not best for them, it's all "in the moment" stuff for them
I’m so glad I broke away from the traditionalist mindset.
Spinning plates is fine, but do not tell whoever you are dating that you are spinning plates. You spinning plates is for your OWN mindset! Dont sit there and have the nerve to rub it in your dates face. You can carry yourself as if you have abundance, you can act as if you have abundance, but dont tell her, you wont get anywhere with it.
On the contrary. I make sure they know its going on behind their back. I just never do it in their face.
Some of them have asked me about my conquests because it turns them on to hear those stories.
That’s is so true. There is no such thing as a single woman. There are single men but no single woman.
There are. Fat, feminists.
Not true !!
@@kathyhernandez6733 hahahahaha
@@kathyhernandez6733 evidence, otherwise it’s just heresay
@@kathyhernandez6733 - What?
So true. You can never go wrong with an abundance mindset.
Had a crush on this girl a few years ago. She had a background in comedy (major coping mechanism for a lot of women/people who have daddy issues or had sad upbringings). She would create characters and make silly scripted videos acting as them. One day she told me she was gonna make a fake dating profile as one of her characters. She answered all the survey questions jokingly and chose silly pictures of herself dressed as the character. Do you think that prevented hundreds of men from matching with her? Nope. She received hundreds if not thousands of matches ON A JOKE dating profile.
It's a losing game, boys. And we're all playing whether we realize it or not. Stay safe out there, gentlemen. And remember, there isn't a woman alive that's worth your peace of mind.
The one thing I learned too late in life is that when something seems wrong with the girl you’re dating, get the hell out of there. Don’t look back, don’t try your best to figure her out, don’t try harder to please her. If she isn’t 100% into you you are not going to by some wave of the wand change that.
@@Notfiveo0 it's so true. I recently had to walk away from a woman because things just stopped making sense and no amount of talking about it is gonna fix things. If you feel that somethings wrong, I believe you should address it, but if things don't change after you've addressed it then just leave.
@@Notfiveo0, that's been my advice to many people over the years. Most WON'T take the advice, though, I've found. If you "need" her too much, your relationship will have all the power vested in HER, which is a recipe for disaster.
Thanks RiCH! I'm 44, but wish I believed this at 17yrs old. Now I can see ALL the chix "in love" with me. I don't have to do what I'm programmed 2do.
richard cooper the pooper scooper
Amen to that and ditto! Plus it mitigates getting completely FUCKED over!
Agreed. Knowledge is power and I was "powerless" late-teens to late-twenties.
How do women respond to you at 44? What aged girls do you date.
Nigga u should be retired. Not working on pickup lines
Why men are so resistant to the idea that women can never be trusted because they are always open to the next best deal…. Blows my mind! Stop! Giving you undying loyalty to someone who will never earn it is just silly!!
Because men love idealistically and think women work the same way. It's the romantic lie that was sold to men because it greatly benefits women.
That's because they (woman) are made out to be perfectly innocent 'angels' that can do no wrong. You see it being portrayed in movies, tv shows, and other media outlets - women who do 'cheat' are always seen to be victims whereas men who are 'players' or have 'affairs' are seen as pigs and dirtbags....but they always forget to mention that these are the types of dudes that women love to be around! Everything is in reverse with the female mind..
Thats your western society problems in muslim or conservative countries when mariage forms a coupne its a link between their two families and its there to last
Underrated comment.
Trust, commitment, respect are EARNED.
That which is not earned is not valued.
@@amrdel2730 western society is so degenerate and fucked up, its crazy...that kinda of society can't last long
You have to remember that yes, you're poaching her from someone else. There's timed where YOU will be better than the other guy, and there's times where the other guys will be better than YOU. It's her preference. Forming a full on relationship that WORKS and for a good while, is actually kinda difficult. They end up revealing SOEMTHING fd up about themselves, and it ends.
wise words. Great perspective
@@marcb1890 of course. I'm a very wise man.
Maybe when guys realize this, is when boys become men and start reevaluating how they carry themselves.
I agree. If I go out with and sleep with a girl, she’s already met the basic criteria and is on “potential gf track”. It’s up to her to simply not F it up from that point….yet they almost ALWAYS manage to F it up.
@@usarmymedic07 this is very true. But what's happening, is the women take that exact same stance that you're taking. If a woman has genuine desire for you and not using you to waste time, get free stuff, you WILL know. They'll try to make u happy, they'll be thoughtful, kind etc. A woman has to love the man's character. His base character. This may change, but it suppose to _"Refine"_ over time. Honed in and slowly improve. He grows into a very great Man. As long as he stays true to himself, she will "Always" have attraction for you. Even if something better may come along, she can't see herself without YOU in it. It feels daunting to her. Dread. Fear. Hopeless and very sad. She will easily cut out the world, just for YOU. This means she's content and happy. Feminist have corrupted and eroded away the word "content" and shamed a woman labeling her as "settling". This is why they don't like being content.
They must be deprived of the spoils they have, so they can find a new appreciation for them. Sets a marker in their minds from that point on. _"I better not do THAT. Last time I lost EVERYTHING and life sucked very badly for me. Let me behave myself. I'm not a teenager, I'm a full grown woman now."_
Spinning plates is what I learned from dating apps. I'd go some time without any matches then I'd get 2-3 matches at once. I'd chat with those women for several days, getting to know them and then inviting them on a date. Once I had two dates in one day, one in the morning, one in the evening. The next day I had one more date in the morning, but by then I was emotionally tired :D and I didn't even plan it that way, but that's the free time those 3 women had for me.
I'm not bragging either, I didn't sleep with any of those women, I'm looking for something more. It's good for the mental health though. It's good to feel you're in the game and trying. Even with mixed results, you're still in it and not wasting your time alone at home, feeling worthless. You get to know yourself better, your priorities become clearer, and you see the variety of personalities all around you.
I like how he delivers his video while driving. I take this as inspiration as it says he has better stuff to do.
I think alot of men mistakenly believe most women are like their mom so they put them on pedestals ignoring that most modern women themselves are natural plate spinners. EIC is right; women are never single so spin those plates men!
This is just a tragic viewpoint... No, there are many women who are NOT "plate spinners" as you call them, and if you are spinning too many plates you will end up with nothing but broken china. There are many women who are like your moms - honest, faithful, and committed. Perhaps it is where you are looking that is the issue.. But spinning plates gets one nowhere.
“Women choose the man who chooses another woman.”
more like women choose the man that other women want as well
Epic
Facts
Women want what they can't have. It's the chase.... Men also like the chase
@@20maxiloI never say yes to relationships with woman, and it drives nuts! They chase even harder when I tell them I’m not available
Interesting show. Much love from Lusaka Zambia. Africa is watching
Somewhere I was stuck but found your video and started to make sense. Keep moving never stop and try to settle.
You are so right. A girl/ woman will never stop looking around for other men till she find a man who has “everything” she wants a man to have. I am talking about material things. It does not matter if a man is nice, the best listener, can understand her, can walk with her and look for shoes/shopping for hours… she will stay with the man who has the biggest house, the largest apartment, has the best financial/ social status, unless she is 30 + and still have no children, then she start to become more desperate to find a man. The only time when HOW a man is, nice, good listener and so on, becomes important, is when she had children with this financial
/high status man, and she is over 40, and divorce, and does not want more children. That is the time when a woman is mature enough to look for a nice man, who does not necessarily have a big house etc.
of course there are more men to every woman. We men are not looking for the same as women are. A man can be a doctor but marry a nurse, or a pilot can marry a stewardess. But a female doctor would never even date a male nurse, also because of her friends will say “you can get a so much better man then him”.. in a sense a much more “successful and rich” man.
“Men are looking for beauty, and women are looking for money to secure her offspring”. And it does not matter if she is successful herself. She will always look for a man who is in “same or higher” social and financial situation as herself is. And no “feminism” has changed that.
When I was a pilot, I could date women who were engineers, doctors and even law graduates. When I was driving bus, no one in that category of women even wanted to know me. So I have experienced this at first hand. I am the SAME man, nice, good listener and have the patience to go out shopping for ours. But it does not matter unless you have a profession and the MONEY: that comes with it.
Sad, but true.
Don't be her shopping buddy. Screw that unless she gives you that time for your activities
Another important thing to note is that even if you are only seeing one woman, whether casually or as a girlfriend/wife, she must always BELIEVE you have other options. She needs to SEE you flirt with other women, she needs to be fearful of her chances to keep you all to herself all of the time. Every time I reflect on the subject of preselection, it goes up in my list of importance when it comes to things a man needs to obtain a woman's monogamous investment.
So much so that if a woman you're seeing views you as her ultimate alpha and she asks you whether you're seeing/interacting with other women, if you give her a flat-out no, her attraction for you will DIE in that exact moment if not shortly thereafter.
The social circle/hierachy is a woman's ENTIRE existence. They are created by nature to maintain the cohesion and unity of the group, as individuals they are completely worthless and they all know it. This is not a blight on women, this is just an objective, facts-and-science based description of the truth. Every single decision a woman will ever make will require verification by friends, family, colleagues, you name it... she needs to be reminded WHY you are her ultimate alpha, and the best way to cement that in her mind is to have other women that want you.
Bingo!
🎯.. well said
U do realize that’s borderline manipulation
@@aspalt228gold doesn't matter it works and women feel no shame manipulating men.
The man I wanted seriously for the first time in my life got options but I didn’t cared that much, I don’t know why. Once he even asked me if I cared and got confused when I said no. Maybe I was not in the right moment mentally but that was funny asf lol
Soooooo true, hilarious. Every guy spends weeks assessing the pros and cons of cars. 12 levels of in-depth comparison and analysis, but no time whatsover evaluating women.
Most guys really do need to realise that most women will always be in communication with other guys, even ones that are in relationships or married. It could be an ex or a potential future conquest, or even just a thirsty admirer they will communicate with to get some kind of validation.
It was also a great point about the social media of women, as social media accounts for men and women are completely different. The only way most guys could understand this would be if they were to create a female profile to see what it’s like then be shocked by the tons of daily messages from thirsty strangers saying they love you and want to talk to you and of course loads of dick pics. It is a totally different world, and that’s why women get so addicted especially to things like Instagram as it gives them the validation they need so bad.
Another thing I think guys need to understand is that most if not all women could go and be intimate with another guy and not give a damn about you or how you feel. As they are just acting on emotion in the moment, this is why a lot of guys struggle to go with other women. As they are not programmed that way. It’s kind of true what they say about Cats being like women as you can try to keep one as a pet but the minute it gets outside it will just go and find a better parent/family who will take care of it and give it all it needs. Where as dogs are more loyal like men for the most part.
And don’t ever think they are sweet and innocent either.
Just some good pointers.
Men are actually more romantic and think women are sweet and beautiful. All a facade of course.
Very deep and accurate observation
Women are more selective and keep their options open. Guys usually want to go from 0-100 straight away.
100% facts
Had a stay kitten walk into our house one summer. We fed it, cared for it and outright took it in. When my brother and his wife moved in next door for a year (internship) the cat figured out they would feed it indiscriminately. Cat ended up spending more time over there than at home. When my brother moved out a year later he and wife asked if they could keep the cat. We happily let it go with them. That’s how you should deal with women who start eating off of someone else’s plate.
One of the all-time great yt videos. This my friends is GOLD
I agree that when a guy pines for a woman he just met, it's a red flag. I had a guy say to me, "I wish I could share my [physical] pain with you." I had only known this guy for approximately two weeks at the time and it freaked me out, because he never asked questions that would allow him to get to know me as a person. It was a red flag that spelled the beginning of an unhealthy relationship, because he was getting too intimate and too personal way too fast before I knew him and he knew me.
I liked this answer. I’m 34 no kids never married with plenty of options. Still I have this desire to find one women. That being said I usually feel guilt when going on multiple dates in a week toward a woman I was starting to like. I then find a woman I like more. This video makes me feel great about the path I’m on. Keep in mind once red pulled, blue pill tendencies always want to creep back in. I keep watching your videos to stay red pill strong
Caffeinate the hamster in her head. :D
...and read the Rational Male book by Rollo Tomassi.
I'm exactly like this. But I take my dose of the pill every other time. I don't want to be a playa but it's the world we live in. The game begat us.
Same. Meeting the bitches parents today. And I’m just thinking about all the guys who ran through that didn’t meet them
women do what you do all the time! you are good, man!
And women have been using this for ages, but to satisfy their hypergamy. I am 39 and I remember dating an older female when I was 16 that clearly explained her positive view of casual dating. She was basically spinning plates, just with a different name.
I been with a lot of females that always ended up having a boyfriend or they were talking and getting to know dudes. I remember one time this chick finished a date with a nice guy who took her out to eat and then I got called up hours later to clap her cheeks and she even told me she was entertaining him for free food. Even married women be cheating out here. She can be single or in a relationship but they always got dudes in the sidelines or looking for a replacement in case things go bad with you.
Lol i remember the brain surgeon who's wife had an escort service going for years. He made millions and she still was on the C Carousel even after marriage
So how to get married and have kids?
@@nathansky6513 Don't get married. If you really wanna have kids you need to be able to afford an egg donor, a surrogate and a nanny.
@@nathansky6513 Go overseas to South America or Africa or Asia and make sure that country you are picking don’t have bad marriage laws like the one in the USA that make men lose all there assets even with prenup. And make sure the women you find is family oriented has a job and is not influenced by social media nonsense.
@@RealJayNice Nothing but the truth! If you really want someone to make a home with look at those countries. Easier to find one than in a western country
WOW...the car analogy...great insight and I am going to use it.
The funny thing about men who competently and successfully spin plates to avoid committing pre-maturely, is that they are the ones who actually appreciate the seriousness and consequences of a monogamous relationship. People will accuse them of having no appreciation for monogamy, when in reality it is precisely the opposite. That's why they do it.
An LTR is a catastrophe waiting to unfold unless the boundaries and expectations are clearly defined with someone who's all in and capable of walking their talk. It's basically marriage without the legal liability, and thus not to be taken lightly.
They appreciate monogamy, so they actively engage in polygamy. Are you listening to yourself???
It's crazy...I did this in high school and thought I found the one.
I dated different girls but found one I put in all the effort with and we ended off on a bad note.
Afterwards I stopped dating with effort entirely.(about 7 years) I'm not a big muscular guy or some rich kid, but this has been more of a hard wakeup call to the soul tbh. Like I got a little mad at myself because of how on point this is.
You nailed it on the head though and I thank you for making this upload :)
Personally loyalty means everything to me. I have never dated more than one man. I rarely date anymore, because there's always some scam. I haven't bothered dating in years. I see how unhealthy hook up culture is. Why would I want that mess in my life for myself or in others?
I want what doesn't seem to exist in today's hustle culture a real emotional connection.
I'm probably wasting my time stating this. I prefer a friend before a relationship is considered. I'm old fashioned, I guess.
My Personal peace comes first, if you bring all kinds of self created problems into my life, I'll probably leave. I like to help, but there's a point where it's just who they are and I know better than to think I can change someone's habits.
I learned this from dealings with family over the years. You can't help someone who won't help themselves too.
I agree with most of what you are saying. As an older man, I dated for two years and around 200 women in that time. For me, dating doesn't mean sex. It is only dating and getting to know the person.
Often times, I would not allow it to get past the first date. There were even times when the woman I was seeing wanted intimacy and when I said no, I was called all kinds of names and my sexual preferences were often challenged. I didn't want to get into the intimacy part until I was sure the woman in question was the one I wanted to be in a relationship with. Many women could not wrap their head around the idea that I was choosing the woman in my life and I was not the one being chosen, where I was settling for a woman I did not want. I am very successful financially. I own my home outright and I have very good morals but I also dated 5 to 7 women at a time. It was quite exhausting. I finally did find the woman I wanted. She does everything for me and she is very feminine, never argues and is very fit.
@Archabolt i get what you are saying. And i think there are men out there that value the 'spiritual' part of the relation more than the sexual part. I say that because i for one do. Obviously I like sex, but plain sex just doesnt do it for me. I had friends with benefits twice. Both times i gave up on them because meaningless sex is just not satisfying me at all. I seek that friendship connection. I think most of this hook up culture is because of our times of social media and all those advertisements that make it a very materialistic world.
@@robchurch881 - nothing wrong with that. whatever works best for you.
@@sheknows9704 - society thru media, etc., conditions many to be dysfunctional. why the world is the way it is.
Don’t give up, plenty of guys like me would appreciate that greatly. In fact we refuse from dating anything else.
well said, great explanation. A guy doesn't owe anyone the mentality of restricting his own options
Wise words. A lady colleague at work was telling me how she receives 100 likes every day on a dating app, and over 2500 likes every month. She told me exactly what Richard says, it fine to date more than one person. This has changed my way of thinking for the better.
Don't date harlots. Ovoid them. They will cheat.
Crazy man, you’re spitting facts. It’s over for these women now. This video is restoring power to men!
It all comes down to experience and getting out to the world. Experience is gonna be your best friend.
Rich, the father we didn't had but all need.
When I told the hottest woman shes one of many she got angry at me
It pretty much ended the relationship.
Legend 🤣👍
Dont tell them anything or just tell them what they want to hear.
Honesty doesn't get you anywhere in modern society.
Why would you tell her that? That is a beta move. Keep your options open and to yourself.
@@negroantonio28 That's how you end up with a piece of sh 1t scumbag society. If she asks if you are "spinning plates" tell her. Don't lie, don't make fake promises you don't know you can hold.
Same applies to women. You are dating other guys at the moment? If you get askes and lie about it you are a p o s. Saying "it's none of your business" "I don't wanna talk about it" are always options.
Big lies like that are not acceptable.
@@negroantonio28 telling a woman what she wants to hear doesn't separate you from other men. you want to be different from the other thousands of guys, that tellings her the same lines "ur special or i cant live w/o babe"over & over
So much wisdom packed into such a concise package. Wish I had practiced this years and years ago. The part about so many guys getting too excited about and focusing on one woman really resonated with me. Thanks a lot for this.
20 years old, I have never spinned plates, thank for your ultimate wonderful advices !
WIsh I had done that in my 20s, but I have another shot in my early 30s, and plates I will spin as soon as I get my wealth and fitness in order.
i dont care if you are rich, middle class, poor, or even completely homeless vagrant. No woman is loyal completely, its not wise to totally devote yourself to one. Any time down the road she will blow it all up and leave you holding the bag.
"holding the bag" - like what? If they leave, NEXT and so on. Not sure her leaving or me leaving her would be any different. Just keep all financial items separate
@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica - I think he's talking about married women.
@@Lvatopesado right. That the reason for a prenup : ) let them leave. Next. Have three or four or five wives. What is the issue?
Would have been nice to hear this 52 years ago when I was 17 / 18. At this stage, I don't even care anymore.
Enjoy retirement and maybe a young escort every so often. Back in your day, things weren't so complicated and use to be more enjoyable.
Just got "The Unplugged Alpha" on Audible, look forward to listening to it.
I love this content. Words from a wise man I couldn’t agree more. Good job brother!
I'm glad I'm at the point where I don't even care to spin plates. Most of them are already broken anyways.
That's what u men do to women .don't complain about brokenness.
I’ve had my fill of crazies for the last few decades as well. It was like a parade of routine, useless broken American whores for 15 years. Now I have a peaceful, pleasant life with no lunatics or NPCs👍🏻✌🏻
"Nice guys finish last" has been around a long time for many reasons. If you're a nice guy, it can be hard to change that, but 'nice' can be nuanced in ways.
It's good to finish last if that means you're not tied to bimbos, narcissists, and predatory manipulators. There is victory in losing out on all the garbage and unsublimated illusions.
Let your money do the talking . Go with where your money takes you or who your money will let you play with
I've watched Rich's entire video. I was in a relationship with a woman for a long time. Never got married. We broke up after more than a decade of being together.
What Rich had said in this video is very concerning. If I were to date again, according to Rich, the woman is likely seeing other men. Nothing new, but I'm used to being with one woman.
With what Rich has said, I'd rather live alone. I don't want to go through the disappointment of thinking this one woman likes me, only to find out she has stopped talking to me because she was dating someone else, too, and chose that other guy.
I don't really need a woman in my life, especially if we're going to go through a lot of arguing, whining, and nagging.
I'll wait for the right one, and if I have to wait a lifetime, oh well.
If you date multiple women, the odds of that disappointment diminish. It sounds like you are going in too deep from the start. Whether she accepts you should be a secondary goal. The primary goal is to find the most acceptable one, to you. And the more women you date, the better your chances of that.
@@brunetteordie agreed that’s my game plan too and just be open to the other dates that your meeting other women too (that is if they ask since no obligations or commitments as Rich mentioned in the video..)
Rich is wrong. There are truly single women who aren't talking to multiple guys.
@@angiehitch6807 Thank you for that hope. I, myself, if I were to go out with a female, I'd be available to her only. I'm not going to go "female-shopping". Going female-shopping (dating) maybe the efficient way to go for a lot of guys and girls, but I wouldn't be able to do it. I've got hobbies, an important job, a house to clean, and last but not least, mental resetting (sleep) to do, that I don't have time to go out with several women. I understand I'm missing out on potential mates, but I'm not going to lose my mind over females.
@@joebeta1837 I am glad that there is good men out there like yourself joe! Not all women are like that. this is just insane
This Society lacks morals/values it’s just shameful smh 🤦♀️
Bought your book today. Stoked for it's arrival, pretty sure I'm going to read it cover to cover in days.
Health, Wealth & Self-Fulfillment!!
I didn't know that I was an alpha male when I was young. After two 4 year relationships I became a Beta. You just reminded me of who I was. THANK YOU SO MUCH! I've taken my Red 💊.
What betatized you?
Ok guys, I’m 61 years old and I’ve been around. Listen to this fellow. I know of what he speaks and every word is truth. Had I realized this decades ago my life would have been far better.
It’s too late for me. But not for you. So pay attention!
It’s never too late for you.
Too late for me too. I'm 54 with nothing but 2 or 3 fond memories. Took the wrong road.
Never too late to become the best version of yourself if you're willing to try and give it your all.
I am 61 myself, no children and never married. I feel NO regret about being single and I learned no woman is worth the time when she flakes. Change the way you think and motivate to be a better person.
@@Larry-qz3es Yes, I’d be you if I had it to do over. Too soon old, too late smart.
I get frustrated when a lady doesn't answer questions and the they say "you didn't ask the specific way"? Women, you do that, you are on the curb.
This is controlling behavior. You're better off without them.
I think it’s important to note that dating multiple people is vital to your own mental health your not over investing and depending on the person’s you are dating they have an agenda to move things quickly to have you become more invested to eliminate competition. I was dating 3 different women just coffee and conversations and two of them after two months were already expecting a a full relationship status. I set boundaries and found out all 3 were single parents. I was not sleeping with anyone. I like to get to know people for 3-4 months before I do anything for this reason. I gave up dating the normal way. I have a girlfriend from my Harley owners group that I was just mates with and went on rides with as part of the chapter.
I knew you were near Stouffville looking at the background, I was like I know where that is lol
I got so much useful information from you Rich I wish I know about you and this whole information you provide before I got married
It's actually to your advantage not to hide that you're seeing multiple women. It will spur their sense of competition as all women want what another woman has.
That is wrong. You look so insecure telling it to her. A real man goes about his business and keeps it to himself
I am an old married lady. I don't get it: back in the day it was just assummed men and women were spinning plates and often times it was explicitly communicated. Too many games being played now days.
@@contourman6692
He didn't say "make a big dramatic point of telling them."
Just "not to hide it."
Big difference.
I had kids with the wrong women and it really put a toll on me and still is.. I'm focusing on myself and self-improvement..
Still your kids, better if they're not daughters.
9:10 I agree with 95 % of what you have to say and teach. In this case I don't agree. I've had an incredible amount of success telling the women I'm dating that I'm actively dating. The first question they each have asked every time is "how many?" I don't answer directly because I've shown the level of respect they are entitled and they're really not entitled to know more. I'll say the truth but not give numbers. I'm going on dates with some and some I'm in the first date stage. or just started talking. In each case they've thanked me for being candid and each asked the same question again..."Will you please let me know if you are getting serious with another person?" I always say "yes of course. I'm trying to keep it real and respectful." The question I have after I tell them is, "Are you going to show me the same respect ? OR are you going to do the same exact thing I'm doing except lie to each guy your dating that your not dating anybody else?" About 10% told me they're dating other people too when I'm sure it was 100% of them were dating other people.
You know what happened and what happens? Some will say thank you and then act in a way that says they will leave without it being exclusive yet no conversation about exclusivity has taken place... but they don't really leave. They're pretending to try to gain control. Don't let them. If they try to take control let them go. But most will fall in line and actually be ok with you dating other women as long as you're not exclusive. In most cases the women become MORE interested in you. They instinctively know you're a high quality Man if so many women are also interested AND because you aren't a needed beta boy who can't walk away.
The importance of self respect is critical to being a healthy Man. So just because you, or me, or anybody has the option to fuck them all doesn't mean you should. That may seem like a good idea, but it's not. That's a porn fantasy and you're not a porn star, and you shouldn't try to be. You'll end up hurting a lot of people starting with yourself.
I love the background. All that snow and trees! Haha. When you live in the desert, there is no change of seasons. Canada is a beautiful country.
Damn Rich your so right. The car comparison was spot on.
Rich woke up today and chose to speak facts🙏🏽
“It’s impossible to develop an unhealthy connection if you’re dating more than one woman at a time”
Facts. It’s amazing that men need to be told not to fixate on one woman… it’s only natural to sample and compare in all aspects of life.
Rich! You're so right! I am going to order your book! You are 1000% right!
This video was exactly what I needed to see. I am rewatching
As a woman i can say this is 100% true for high value women
I agree with this. High-value women are less humbled.
Women are never single, many of my dates already have a boyfriend or husband, at that time it didn't bother me, I enjoyed it and so did they. Listen to Cooper !!
If you spin plates be prepared for dysfunctional situations and anger. Just keep in mind……the age clock is ticking and there aren’t any redos in life.
The last two women I dated made way more money than I did. The first relationship lasted six months and she ended up leaving because she was tired of being the one with more money. The second one dated me for three years and I don’t know why exactly she left but I do know that me making less money was part of it. It really motivated me and inspired me to build my business and put the pressure on. I somehow attracted financially wealthy women into my life twice in a row. Thanks for all that you share
Needed a reminder, this video is absolute gold
That’s some real talk. Don’t lock in too fast. Don’t lock in with your emotions. Create options and date different women.
👍🏾
I locked in too fast. Wasted a lot of time. Now I know.😮
I just can’t be bothered talking to low value girls right now and developing a ‘relationship’ with them, I’m on the GRIND 💪
My Brotha literally about to drop a chick cause she's a distraction to the hustle!!!
Bro I spin plates even when I'm in a LTR. One very important lesson I've learned, always have an exit strategy. Keep spinning that shit
Yup. Never believe anything a woman says, and you'll never really know what she's getting away with on the side.
So your prematurely cheating on your girlfriend? Sounds like a shitty way to run a relationship
Coach Rich is AWESOME!!!
Awesome advice...this is definitely the way to go moving forward having experienced what I have in the past.
All it takes is acknowledging there's no wrong being done playing the game the same way they do...after all, these girls do the exact same thing but only so very naturally without any notion of guilt...two can play😉!
So true. There is no such thing to a woman as unconditional love. It is not a part of their soul, brain and body.
....I've had many cars the last 32 years, but only 1 wife...we're both in our fifties, married at 21. So yeah, I'm the one who went all in on one. Love is much more than a pleasant emotional feeling. What did i get for that 32 years with the same woman...3 daughters, 1 son...2 sons in law, 1 daughter in law, 2 grandsons, and 1 granddaughter...all worth it, especially at the holidays
A big thanks to Rich ! His book is simple, easy to read and is very popular now. It's like red pill in a nutshell for the public. Very good contribution.
I was watching someone else's video covering Tik Tok videos and one girl showed: She had downloaded Bumble the night before, and she was maybe a 7 in looks.
She showed her phone in the morning and she had over 1800 messages waiting.