I coughed up that SX module for £300 and then a massive 800mb HDD for another £300. 800MB for £300. Jeez, things were super expensive back then. Ran my CD32 on the internet via the SX and a robotics 28k modem. Cost me a small fortune for the BT line too as it was the 2-line speed so was the full 28k "experience" lol. Got a few of my home made programs on AmiNet too, a module for MAXsBBS as I ran a BBS from home prior to the internet, my module was a CD reader, Aminet was on CD back then before the internet was widely available. Took weeks to go through all the files on a CD as they stored so much comparatively speaking, when dealing with tiny file sizes. Oh, those were the days.
Even as an amiga enthousiast I have always been disappointed with the CD32. It just didn't work as a competitor for the consoles and for any other usecase a a1200 with cd-rom drive was a better option.
this what I learned programming on LOL. doing line based stuff render man was sick. what's crazy is I still have my render man floppy and apparently it sells for $10,000
I remember using a CD32 as a slave CD drive for my MS-DOS PC when I didn't have a built in drive at the time. Installing Descent and Heretic etc. Slow but amazing it worked at all.
I could also imagine writing something as lucrative as a screenplay, novel etc while offline being a good option. No chance it can leak unless someone you know has access to your machines.
I still need to hear into your current Retro Hour episode, the podcast is amazing to listen to! As for the video, I really enjoy setting those old computers being connected to a network and be it a retro network just for multiplayer rounds. Sadly I have not much of a usecase but seeing people using their Amigas, Apples or old DOS and Win9x computers makes me nostalgic for that experience too.
I've just got tf330 for my CD32 and it just gave it a new life... one thing I am missing is easy file transfer like I have in A600 via PCMCIA, connecting to the internet might be just what I need! Thank you!
I actually got a Video Toaster to boot up on a CD32 back in the early 90s. NewTek tried to buy up the stock from the bankruptcy and experimented with getting the toaster running on the hardware. I had a CD set up that could boot into it and start up the toaster software as a basic tests.
I had an A500 and later an A1200 using a 56k modem to dial into an ISP with www access...I remember having to put DNS and Hostname etc in the various browsers I was using (IBrowse was a year behind the others, but I ended up using it most of the time...each browser had limitations, so it depended on what website you were accessing). I don't remember having to install a TCP/IP stack (whatever came with the Amiga was enough to get me online to download the browsers I needed etc...a lot of Xmodem/Zmodem stuff in those days I barely remember)...is that specifically because you are connecting to a network, and not through a modem?
I just miss the days when social media wasn't a thing and the internet was just an amazing source of information. Now, people are using it to start virtual war along with people speaking their minds on unmoderated platforms a bit too much.
Great video. I dug out the Acornsoft View wordprocessor cartridge for my Acorn Electron a few months ago, I should see if I am more productive on the Electron than a PC.
I wonder if this is where Firefox got their "reader view" idea from. It doesn't work on every webpage but it strips t hings down to just the text and I assume links as well.
Hi I had an idea for a video. I've been curious for some time to know what the difference of the Amiga 500 and A1200 were in games, loading and just generally overall. I only ever owned the Amiga 500, so I wish to know if my games on the A500 would look better on the A1200 or not. I can't seem to find a comparison video on RUclips. So would it be something you would consider making a video on?
Excellent video! I recently got this all working on my CD32 - sort of. I find the ESP8266 resets itself a minute or less into large file transfers, whether that's FTP, SMB, or whatnot, at any baud rate. I've tried power supplies with more amperage but no luck. I have another 8266 on the way from amazon since they're cheap, and with it a proper 2x4 female header block as the ones on my TF are male and I'm currently just using female-female JTAG wires to run the 8266 out the back of the unit. Perhaps that's my problem. Have you experienced similar issues?
I remember My uncles Amiga 500 back in the early 90s and i watched him connect to the internet and set his first download which was a UB40 Album which took 4 days.
I don't think the cd32 gets too much hate. On the contrary, everybody wants one. Its the best way to play Amiga games. Even on emulation is the best way to play Amiga games. Merry Christmas.
I dunno where I'm failing. ESp01 flashes ok (on Windows 10) Amiga is all setup, roadshow, slip.device, netshowstatus is fine. But I can't telnet from the amiga to the esp01 to set it up. Which is also not shown in the video (not even in the linux bit). The linux bit only does the flashing.. and afterwards when talking about dctelnet, you say you'll show that on Linux. I'm kinda lost.. I guess I'll setup rasbian and try it in linux.
you're mad, i remember connecting my 1200 to cd32 it said "cooked.." i use that still in my own apps when they connect. amazing video mate, sold my cd32 last year, is that sntandard cd32? seems fast and ram not running out
Oh I had the SX-1, CDTV keyboard even a little 30MB hard drive in there. Great days. Sold the lot so I could buy an SVGA monitor for my Pentium PC. Hindsight is 20:20
Same here, but sadly the Amiga brand in general here in the US far as the consumer side of things never really took off with the C64 & C128 selling by the bucket loads long after there expected EOL, IBM & PC clones catching on so quickly, bad marketing, higher prices points, along with Apple's hold on the education sector, thus the Amiga was relegated to the dedicated fans, and those doing more professional work with the higher end more costly models like the full blown A2000 with addons such as the video toaster, and software packages such as lightwave.
@@maxxdahl6062 That's true too far as some business, I should have also mentioned industrial type setups as even in 00 when I got out of high school my school systems( I took Comp. Network Tech class, and got to see the backend of everything) was still using Amiga A500 systems in a back office to automate the Heating and HVAC systems. Far as Jack Tramiel, he did not just leave Commodore, he was forced out by one of his financial partners Irving Guild who had a controlling stake in the company, and the 2 could never see eye to eye, and If you have not see it yet out the documentary "The Commodore Story" from 2018 as has interviews with people who worked at the company, and even Jack's son Leonard who also worked at Commodore under his father for a brief time.
Hey, can you help me find that program that had a full setup of UAE and was setup for a RTG graphics card, max memory, storage and had a tcp/ip stack that allowed the machine to use the internet connection, albeit at 128k baud, which was the max speed of the amiga's port? It came with a retooled firefox to browse which and although it was painfully slow on 20 years ago when I tried it, so it's going to be slower now, I just want to see. I'd run a BBS if I thought it'd be useful, I ran a few back in the C64 and Amiga days.
Hah, very nice. I would have loved to have my Amiga 500 on the internet in the 90s. I find it curious that the Roadshow boasts that it is the fastest TCP/IP stack for Amiga, achieving 2000kb/sec! Why so slow, is that a limitation of the serial port? Thanks again!
I SUPER HELLA wish too go back in time and tell my PAST self too hold on too & take good care of The (NOW RETRO) gaming consols I had back then. Among other issues.. Alas, that is NOT yet viable for the average consumer.
Internet is awesome...but modern phones are the problem. In the 2000's I swore never to own a cell phone and I was happier for it. Then I preggo'd my wife, and she demanded I get a cell phone in case she is about to pop. And now I am addicted...I have the fanciest Samsung phone and it eats up so much of my time. I once lived in a single bedroom apartment, only dial up internet, no TV, only my books and music stuff with a Amiga500, crappy PC, and an SNES. No car..I road a bike. My rent was $250 and my only bill was a $10 land line. Happiest time of my life. Now I have everything I ever wanted...and a gillion million bills and responsibilities. Those simpler times were the best. I was truely happy.
What did we do on them? play games and do work, the internet has ruined games and our ability to connect with humans, way to upload baby photos on your facebook page and let it get lost on your wall. i wish games weren’t online eg gta, all its done but bring stupidity/racism/hate online, i miss amazing offline games
I loved my Amiga CD-32 with SX-1, CD-TV keyboard and all the devices connected turning it into a Frankenstein machine. I was so happy with the controllers back then compared to the one button joysticks that most other people used on their Amiga. When I sold my Amiga to replace it with a PC I regretted it for a long time (Even tho I knew Amiga was at it's end), because most games looked and sounded a lot better back then on my Amiga and going from Workbench to MSDos was also a big downgrade as well.
Got the same configuration here and it's working like a charm ^^ even IRC with the last version of AmIRC. The only minus of this solution is the speed, limited to 10 kb/sec (up or down) but it remembers me my A1200 with my old rtc Internet connection of the last 90's 😉 Great video! Only Amiga Makes It Possible! 😁
23 kb here ! but I'm just on amiga 1997 I remember it being like an Escom Power PC with Draco Parts my cousin was a computer scientist. he had taken it all apart and still had it working somehow. I was around 6 years old.
Another Awesome video Dan!. Nice to see the CD32 getting some love. Tip - if you even need to change the wifi network settings you can do it from the Amiga side via telnet to the ESP8266.
Damn, someone must've been a basement dweller to name their console "girlfriend" in Spanish. *(Word actually means "female friend" in Spanish but close enough...)*
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You should connect with this to india help desk scammers
how bout a magnetic data reel for a 1979 IBM mainframe. been needing a few... LOL
I wonder if you'd consider doing a video on how far back can you go in retro PCs till you can run RUclips in 480p?
I loved my amiga cd32 back in the 90,s and when i bought another one 2 years ago i found i still love it a very underrated console ❤️
I coughed up that SX module for £300 and then a massive 800mb HDD for another £300. 800MB for £300. Jeez, things were super expensive back then. Ran my CD32 on the internet via the SX and a robotics 28k modem. Cost me a small fortune for the BT line too as it was the 2-line speed so was the full 28k "experience" lol. Got a few of my home made programs on AmiNet too, a module for MAXsBBS as I ran a BBS from home prior to the internet, my module was a CD reader, Aminet was on CD back then before the internet was widely available. Took weeks to go through all the files on a CD as they stored so much comparatively speaking, when dealing with tiny file sizes. Oh, those were the days.
@Claude Speed not to mention a better version of like every CD32 game is on another system lol
@Claude Speed its called nostalgia and people around these parts get high on it
Even as an amiga enthousiast I have always been disappointed with the CD32. It just didn't work as a competitor for the consoles and for any other usecase a a1200 with cd-rom drive was a better option.
this what I learned programming on LOL. doing line based stuff render man was sick. what's crazy is I still have my render man floppy and apparently it sells for $10,000
I remember using a CD32 as a slave CD drive for my MS-DOS PC when I didn't have a built in drive at the time. Installing Descent and Heretic etc. Slow but amazing it worked at all.
amiga: NOOOOOO THE CD32 IS A CONSOLE!
you circa 1990 i guess: haha CD32 go whrrrrrrrrrrrr
This is the first video of yours I've seen and this sort of content is right up my alley!
I could also imagine writing something as lucrative as a screenplay, novel etc while offline being a good option. No chance it can leak unless someone you know has access to your machines.
no hacking too, think of your resume having your address taken, not that they would need too, just getting your ip address you’re screwed
Thanks for including all the extra stuff about using the internet on old machines! Really interesting!
I'm glad you found my guide on tumblr useful :)
I still need to hear into your current Retro Hour episode, the podcast is amazing to listen to!
As for the video, I really enjoy setting those old computers being connected to a network and be it a retro network just for multiplayer rounds.
Sadly I have not much of a usecase but seeing people using their Amigas, Apples or old DOS and Win9x computers makes me nostalgic for that experience too.
Woo hoo! Nice shoutout to Cottonwood BBS, one of my favorite regular #Color64 hangouts... thanks for the great video Dan!
I've just got tf330 for my CD32 and it just gave it a new life... one thing I am missing is easy file transfer like I have in A600 via PCMCIA, connecting to the internet might be just what I need! Thank you!
I remember the Amiga with love. I can say it's part of my infancy and the best times of my life.
You were so worried about whether you could but didn't stop to think if you should.
I actually got a Video Toaster to boot up on a CD32 back in the early 90s. NewTek tried to buy up the stock from the bankruptcy and experimented with getting the toaster running on the hardware. I had a CD set up that could boot into it and start up the toaster software as a basic tests.
Wow this is extremely epic and weirdly satisfying to see !!!
IBrowse was one of the first ways I accessed the net! Think I need to get this again for the nostalgia!
super interesting vid, so cool to see old hardware online!
Great video Dan! WHDLoad has an option to use the network! It will tell you if a newer .slave is available for the game you launch!
I had an A500 and later an A1200 using a 56k modem to dial into an ISP with www access...I remember having to put DNS and Hostname etc in the various browsers I was using (IBrowse was a year behind the others, but I ended up using it most of the time...each browser had limitations, so it depended on what website you were accessing). I don't remember having to install a TCP/IP stack (whatever came with the Amiga was enough to get me online to download the browsers I needed etc...a lot of Xmodem/Zmodem stuff in those days I barely remember)...is that specifically because you are connecting to a network, and not through a modem?
I agree, when I had no internet I studied more and learned myself some programming..
No internet sure has its + points.
Imagine coming to this after watching the AVGN ep for the CD32
You had me at Amiga... 🤣
Amiga be like "Oh god, its full of stars"
Excellent video once again Dan👍🏻
Side observation... Your monitor shots have a haze on them, is there a finger print on your lens?
Great video - the CD32 doesn't impress me but watching this made me reconsider. 🙂
Only Amiga makes it's possible
Imagine if GRRM had internet on his computer...we'd have to wait 35 years in-between books instead of 15.
I just miss the days when social media wasn't a thing and the internet was just an amazing source of information. Now, people are using it to start virtual war along with people speaking their minds on unmoderated platforms a bit too much.
Great video. I dug out the Acornsoft View wordprocessor cartridge for my Acorn Electron a few months ago, I should see if I am more productive on the Electron than a PC.
I wonder if this is where Firefox got their "reader view" idea from.
It doesn't work on every webpage but it strips t hings down to just the text and I assume links as well.
U sir...are a relic of the gaming world liked nd subscribed 🕹
I miss my gateway 3000 computer with my gateway keyboard, mouse and computer itself
I had a CD32 with the SX1 back in the day.
*Alternate title I was expecting*
“Amiga CD32 connects to internet, immediately begins mining bitcoin”
Hi I had an idea for a video. I've been curious for some time to know what the difference of the Amiga 500 and A1200 were in games, loading and just generally overall. I only ever owned the Amiga 500, so I wish to know if my games on the A500 would look better on the A1200 or not. I can't seem to find a comparison video on RUclips. So would it be something you would consider making a video on?
It's really a shame this never took off over here in the states it was ahead of it's time. People just weren't ready.
Excellent video! I recently got this all working on my CD32 - sort of. I find the ESP8266 resets itself a minute or less into large file transfers, whether that's FTP, SMB, or whatnot, at any baud rate. I've tried power supplies with more amperage but no luck. I have another 8266 on the way from amazon since they're cheap, and with it a proper 2x4 female header block as the ones on my TF are male and I'm currently just using female-female JTAG wires to run the 8266 out the back of the unit. Perhaps that's my problem. Have you experienced similar issues?
I remember My uncles Amiga 500 back in the early 90s and i watched him connect to the internet and set his first download which was a UB40 Album which took 4 days.
Without even starting watching I can answer the question - of course it is possible 👍🏾
I don't think the cd32 gets too much hate. On the contrary, everybody wants one. Its the best way to play Amiga games. Even on emulation is the best way to play Amiga games.
Merry Christmas.
The internet of the 90s such a relic
Dan the man does it again 🙂
This reminds me of a guy who made his Atari Jaguar run TOS but I don’t think he connected it to the internet.
I dunno where I'm failing. ESp01 flashes ok (on Windows 10) Amiga is all setup, roadshow, slip.device, netshowstatus is fine. But I can't telnet from the amiga to the esp01 to set it up. Which is also not shown in the video (not even in the linux bit). The linux bit only does the flashing.. and afterwards when talking about dctelnet, you say you'll show that on Linux.
I'm kinda lost.. I guess I'll setup rasbian and try it in linux.
Hi Dan, I hope you post a Christmas gaming video.
you're mad, i remember connecting my 1200 to cd32 it said "cooked.." i use that still in my own apps when they connect. amazing video mate, sold my cd32 last year, is that sntandard cd32? seems fast and ram not running out
When my workshop is up and running again, I have the figure out why the cdroms aren't spinning. 🏃🏃♂️🏃♀️
Oh I had the SX-1, CDTV keyboard even a little 30MB hard drive in there. Great days. Sold the lot so I could buy an SVGA monitor for my Pentium PC. Hindsight is 20:20
I totally wish we got these here in the US.
Same here, but sadly the Amiga brand in general here in the US far as the consumer side of things never really took off with the C64 & C128 selling by the bucket loads long after there expected EOL, IBM & PC clones catching on so quickly, bad marketing, higher prices points, along with Apple's hold on the education sector, thus the Amiga was relegated to the dedicated fans, and those doing more professional work with the higher end more costly models like the full blown A2000 with addons such as the video toaster, and software packages such as lightwave.
@@CommodoreFan64 And business sector too. Commodore as a company were incompetent at least the US branch after Jack Tramiel left.
@@maxxdahl6062 That's true too far as some business, I should have also mentioned industrial type setups as even in 00 when I got out of high school my school systems( I took Comp. Network Tech class, and got to see the backend of everything) was still using Amiga A500 systems in a back office to automate the Heating and HVAC systems.
Far as Jack Tramiel, he did not just leave Commodore, he was forced out by one of his financial partners Irving Guild who had a controlling stake in the company, and the 2 could never see eye to eye, and If you have not see it yet out the documentary "The Commodore Story" from 2018 as has interviews with people who worked at the company, and even Jack's son Leonard who also worked at Commodore under his father for a brief time.
The Controller still lives in the Tesla Plaid😂😁
I had one of these bad boys
Hey, can you help me find that program that had a full setup of UAE and was setup for a RTG graphics card, max memory, storage and had a tcp/ip stack that allowed the machine to use the internet connection, albeit at 128k baud, which was the max speed of the amiga's port? It came with a retooled firefox to browse which and although it was painfully slow on 20 years ago when I tried it, so it's going to be slower now, I just want to see. I'd run a BBS if I thought it'd be useful, I ran a few back in the C64 and Amiga days.
❤️ CD32. If only they had built the architecture around 3D chip
I loved Netscape, wish it would still have evolved to today.
Tried Seamonkey? www.seamonkey-project.org
I was online in 1987 with an Atari 800xl
Why though?...
Hah, very nice. I would have loved to have my Amiga 500 on the internet in the 90s. I find it curious that the Roadshow boasts that it is the fastest TCP/IP stack for Amiga, achieving 2000kb/sec! Why so slow, is that a limitation of the serial port? Thanks again!
Yep. Serial port can't go any faster. You only have so many bits to play with.
this thing is faster than my computer
This is true wizardry!
Had one of these in the 90s only had diggers and Oscar. Good times.
This video is insane
Thought this was a paradoxical conversation.. isn’t this supposed to bring on the rapture?
I'm disappointed that you didn't try some modern sites just to see what would happen :p
This remind me this movie about woman trapped in house with Ai what a Ted to be human
Was the cd32 as good or better than megadrive or snes ? Or could it have been if games companies put all their best efforts into it 🤔
So thats how Game of Thrones went down hill lol
I SUPER HELLA wish too go back in time and tell my PAST self too hold on too & take good care of The (NOW RETRO) gaming consols I had back then. Among other issues.. Alas, that is NOT yet viable for the average consumer.
A-what connects to the internet??
Internet is awesome...but modern phones are the problem. In the 2000's I swore never to own a cell phone and I was happier for it. Then I preggo'd my wife, and she demanded I get a cell phone in case she is about to pop. And now I am addicted...I have the fanciest Samsung phone and it eats up so much of my time. I once lived in a single bedroom apartment, only dial up internet, no TV, only my books and music stuff with a Amiga500, crappy PC, and an SNES. No car..I road a bike. My rent was $250 and my only bill was a $10 land line. Happiest time of my life. Now I have everything I ever wanted...and a gillion million bills and responsibilities. Those simpler times were the best. I was truely happy.
Does anyone have a web browser for windows xp that has https support?
Didn’t understand anything, but very interesting 🧐
Q.C PASSED !!
I remember Amirc an Zorak 😅
Neat
Pioneers years ago said if it weren't for porn the internet would be dead
I write work documents in Prowrite on my Amiga
Yet my windows 98 laptop straight up refuses to load sites when connected to the internet lol
Creamy Cranium ?
😎. Nice 👍
Love my ps4 jailbreak offline lol
I guess my comment wasn't PC enough.
Lost many hours playing diggers on this
14mhz not 25
The TerribleFire card includes an 030 accelerator running at 25mhz.
@@danwood_uk Why does yours run at only 25mhz? I've several of these TF330 cards including the earliest revision and they are all clocked at 50mhz.
what a pointless ordeal
What did we do on them? play games and do work, the internet has ruined games and our ability to connect with humans, way to upload baby photos on your facebook page and let it get lost on your wall. i wish games weren’t online eg gta, all its done but bring stupidity/racism/hate online, i miss amazing offline games
What did we do on our computers before the Internet? Play games. What do we do now on our computers with the Internet? Play games. Umm.. :P
^This
The CD32 is crap regardless
Painful slow
bit crap init.
It's fine. I remember the times when it didn't exist and all of it was put in to a CD to excite me which it never did since I was smarter than that.
Wheres your paint can attachment
AVGN reference?
everytime i see this downloads i cringe reminds me of downloading music back in the day its not secure lol
I loved my Amiga CD-32 with SX-1, CD-TV keyboard and all the devices connected turning it into a Frankenstein machine. I was so happy with the controllers back then compared to the one button joysticks that most other people used on their Amiga. When I sold my Amiga to replace it with a PC I regretted it for a long time (Even tho I knew Amiga was at it's end), because most games looked and sounded a lot better back then on my Amiga and going from Workbench to MSDos was also a big downgrade as well.
I think the internet is going to be a big thing in the coming years.
Fat chance, nerd.
The internet is a Fad, it’ll go away…
Got the same configuration here and it's working like a charm ^^ even IRC with the last version of AmIRC.
The only minus of this solution is the speed, limited to 10 kb/sec (up or down) but it remembers me my A1200 with my old rtc Internet connection of the last 90's 😉
Great video! Only Amiga Makes It Possible! 😁
That is blazing fast i still have my Tandy 300 Baud modem hehe
23 kb here ! but I'm just on amiga 1997 I remember it being like an Escom Power PC with Draco Parts my cousin was a computer scientist. he had taken it all apart and still had it working somehow. I was around 6 years old.
Draco Casablanca ? I think.
Another Awesome video Dan!. Nice to see the CD32 getting some love. Tip - if you even need to change the wifi network settings you can do it from the Amiga side via telnet to the ESP8266.
Lovely vid Dan! It feels so nice to connect the old to the new and somehow brings our past into the present. See, we’re not that old really!!
I loved my CD32, I had all the mods, used it as my main computer. Also my CDTV, had the black keyboard and mouse with it and expansion box.
Did people in the 90s actually use this thing to browse the internet.
Damn, someone must've been a basement dweller to name their console "girlfriend" in Spanish.
*(Word actually means "female friend" in Spanish but close enough...)*
diggers best game on it :) loved it, great upload thanks