He basically said Roxy was a fake and going to hell. Everyone in that room is a sinner and the church is supposed to be a hospital. Roxy came back and tried to reunite with what should have been her religious family and he insulted her. Then insulted her family by saying she wasn’t raised right when he won’t let Chris produce music.
Damn that is so horrible and mean. But yeah it is a harsh truth, there are preachers who do act like this, so I commend Disney for actually showing this.
Im so used to this kinda talk in church I honestly didn't realize what he was saying and how much it hurt Roxxie till now. I knew he was being mean but I didn't know he was straight up calling her out like that!
unfortunately that’s how a lot of Christians think like this... however that’s the point of this scene, to show how flawed Christians are but also how being a Christian helped him see her from a better perspective in the end. Anybody who thinks this movie is slandering the church is wrong and a hypocrite. It says in the Bible that everyone is a sinner and is flawed even the most righteously seen people and that’s exactly what this scene displays.
@@kathryncanaguier2557 The bible actually says we have all sinned and come short of the glory of god. Actually. That means that we aren't all perfect in life.
@@thanos7459 Because Roxie reached out because she missed her home and her church, and the pastor basically spit in her face for it by not so suddenly calling her a heretic in front of the whole church. It’s not cool no matter how you slice it.
Although the sermon was directed to just one person and he should not have done it in this manner at all. He should have took her to the side at the beginning of the service and told her what she was doing wrong.
Rebekah Chapman Roxie never did anything wrong, she wasn't a bad person and she came to church, so she was obviously willing to be with God and learn and sing and all that
@@thanos7459 but if someone is coming to the church you should sit and try to help them not run them away that’s why a lot of people dont go to church cause they pick and choose who they wanna judge
He was speaking in general. She only felt offended because the shoe fitted her. We not supposed to sugarcoat the truth just because it might hurt someone’s feelings
@@dimitrifranckExactly he was out of line during this entire scene and it seems like only a few judgemental christians in these comments automatically agree with him smh
This is why people are afraid to go to church but they wanna say all are welcomed and the people who are saying the pastor was right for this? Sickening Yeah it's a movie but this is real
why criticize ppl at all. why is cursing so bad. y’all idiots have better than to worry about and fyi ppl sin everyday y’all are all going to hell LMAOO
Honestly, I think he was wrong for that. When it comes to being in the house of God, it doesn't mean for insulting people, but BRINGING people together to come to Christ. Jesus didn't call the righteous but sinners to repentance and salvation.
Dude why you gotta hurt the girls feelings man shes singing for the lord and when she said its good to be home she meant good to be with god.i hate t swift but im useing a line from a song of hers."haters gonna hate,hate,hate:(
First of all I’m used to this because I gotta uncle that’s a pastor and he does this same thing. For two her music wasn’t even bad music she kept it pg13 and she wasn’t smoking, drinking, partying or none of that so what is he talking about. For three it wasn’t her fault that she been gone for so long she probably did want to be a star but her manger was controlling her and wouldn’t let her be who she wanted and you can see that through out the whole movie
@@aricartercx His message was basically “You love the church so much? Then you never should’ve left.” When the reason she left was because she wanted to move past her mother’s death.
River Wing There’s a difference between painting the truth and being a criticizing-judgmental asshole He was criticizing her because of her career, pastors do that shit, they look at a “”flawed”” person and call them out for no reason and make them an example of “sinning”
@@Will-pl4tp Oh, so like the advice I got from an unfiltered coworker (UC), I guess. He's a college man l find immature and kind of obnoxious. He just likes to kid around, but it's not always so obvious to me. For example, he once mentioned a coworker's sagging belly, face-to-face. I don't think said coworker resented that--and I think they've been buds for a while--but you can see how the weight joke made me think less of UC's character. He had also once snuck up on the guy with a loud scream and fingers in the waists. And me...he dissed my "bowl hair" a couple of times, though I will admit the first time his girlfriend said he was just having fun with me. Still, I guess I officially decided he's hardly anything more than a jack@ss, who pretty much has no feelings; the more you clown around, the harder you can be taken seriously, right? I think that's why I once told him to "put a sock in your @ss...I mean your mouth." See, I was about to tell a coworker something when UC interrupted me, I think with some playful diss. I can't remember. I guess I was annoyed with the _way_ he interrupted me. I think he said I can't speak to him that way. Maybe certain people? He's _ironically_ a student leader. I can't remember his response so well, but either way, he was upset. Later, I said, "Hey, I'm sorry for saying [said quote]." From what I remember, he replied, "You're good man. You just need to learn how to speak to people." I should've pointed out his tip was hypocritical, referencing his weight and bad hair jokes. And I also should've mentioned it's not fair to give me a lecture after I sincerely apologized. That kind of defeats the purpose of implying he forgives me, you know?
Basically if u have watched the movie then u know how he doesn’t like hip hop or rap and thank it’s devils music kind of so he was just referring it to that
God, you guys taking this literal, Its a movie, and even worse, A disney movie. So they can't put anything that requires a certain religion. Otherwise the complaints would be flying in.
She literally had just sang about love & home & he just up & humiliated her
The song had pure gospel too. No hip hop at all.
He just hates outgoing people
@@shakeitup4513 I know, right?! That's not cool.
Jacob was such a jerk in this movie🎬🎞🎥🎦📽!
In case y’all haven’t noticed that him and Angela Bassett are both married in real life
He basically said Roxy was a fake and going to hell. Everyone in that room is a sinner and the church is supposed to be a hospital. Roxy came back and tried to reunite with what should have been her religious family and he insulted her. Then insulted her family by saying she wasn’t raised right when he won’t let Chris produce music.
There’s a difference between a sinner and someone who’s turned away from their sin
When a person comes back embrace them not run them away and say they should have never left. This showed what’s wrong with most churches.
Amen 😭💔
You can't dance like a vixen and then ask God to do the fixen. Great line there
He was rude here, but he's good with words. He got some bars you gotta admit, and that's probably where Cyrus got it. I absolutely loved 1:10 🤣
He was a toxic father, so don’t try to justify anything 🙄
...or should I say HIP HOPcrisy heh. 😂😂😂😂 01:25
It wasn't funny :C
It was really funny.
it is not funny
Childish for that one😭😭
bro i was crying
Damn that is so horrible and mean. But yeah it is a harsh truth, there are preachers who do act like this, so I commend Disney for actually showing this.
Its just a movie. calm down
You mean recommend??
No, commend is giving credit for. Recommend is putting something forward or giving advise on.
ThisPowWowYT are you always this annoying
@@thispowwow6574 calm down bro
Im so used to this kinda talk in church I honestly didn't realize what he was saying and how much it hurt Roxxie till now.
I knew he was being mean but I didn't know he was straight up calling her out like that!
"Hip-hopcrisy" 😂 he is a killer
unfortunately that’s how a lot of Christians think like this... however that’s the point of this scene, to show how flawed Christians are but also how being a Christian helped him see her from a better perspective in the end. Anybody who thinks this movie is slandering the church is wrong and a hypocrite. It says in the Bible that everyone is a sinner and is flawed even the most righteously seen people and that’s exactly what this scene displays.
Sierra Brown People really said that about the movie
But the bible also says love the sinner hate the sin.
@@kathryncanaguier2557 The bible actually says we have all sinned and come short of the glory of god. Actually. That means that we aren't all perfect in life.
@@TCRIcey Yeah i know i never said we were perfect
@@kathryncanaguier2557 My bad
if i were roxie i would literally not know a damn thing he wa stalking about ,shoot i would already be sleep lol!!!
Same i wouldn't know what he was talking about eaither
Me too. I’d be too dumb to realize he was talking about me
@@notnero5280 😂
for a pastor that was real evil
but its the truth. i don't understand why everything has to be sugar coated
@@thanos7459 Because Roxie reached out because she missed her home and her church, and the pastor basically spit in her face for it by not so suddenly calling her a heretic in front of the whole church. It’s not cool no matter how you slice it.
@@thanos7459 sugar coated? Wdym? Literally the whole premise of the clip is bullshit.
No he just had a bias toward a subjected his religion got wrapped with a wrong world view
that is so rude and as a Christian he should know better
Church leaders are told they are to rebuke overt sinners in front of the congregation.
Although the sermon was directed to just one person and he should not have done it in this manner at all. He should have took her to the side at the beginning of the service and told her what she was doing wrong.
right
Rebekah Chapman Roxie never did anything wrong, she wasn't a bad person and she came to church, so she was obviously willing to be with God and learn and sing and all that
Its a movie...
that scene made me mad. Sadly this happens in real life.
it sholl do.
@@thispowwow6574 no it actually happens in real life
not everything needs to be sugar coated
@@thanos7459 except cookies
@@thanos7459 but if someone is coming to the church you should sit and try to help them not run them away that’s why a lot of people dont go to church cause they pick and choose who they wanna judge
I just realized the mom was Jaleesa from A Different world
Bruh
She was so heartbroken and was crying she even left the church but I ain’t mad at her.
I think you hurt Roxie’s feelings, Jacob. That was very mean 😭.
He killed this scene 👏🏿.
And this is exactly why some people backed away from the church.
It has become such a judgmental place
🎯💯
What gives him the right to ridicule and criticise her especially in front of everyone like that.
He was speaking in general. She only felt offended because the shoe fitted her. We not supposed to sugarcoat the truth just because it might hurt someone’s feelings
@@kalahbabyytwhat truth ? Does he know her? And why was he looking at her specifically? Judgmental and disgusting
@@dimitrifranckExactly he was out of line during this entire scene and it seems like only a few judgemental christians in these comments automatically agree with him smh
They're people like this in every church you go trust me, but it's not gonna stop us from growing."
So disrespectful. She just sang to the church, what the heck.
This is why people are afraid to go to church but they wanna say all are welcomed and the people who are saying the pastor was right for this? Sickening
Yeah it's a movie but this is real
I hated Paster Jacob. But I loved that Disney showed this scene
cyrus dad is so mean he should not of had said that that was really wrong and he owe her apology for treating poor roxie like that
Or should he say HipHopCrisy😂😂😂
This just shows most not all of how SOME pastors act today
Omg I hated him for doing that to Roxy, she didn't deserve that at all
That preacher is rude..... she wasn’t even cursing in her music yet he criticizes her, critize the people who curse in their music.
why criticize ppl at all. why is cursing so bad. y’all idiots have better than to worry about and fyi ppl sin everyday y’all are all going to hell LMAOO
😂😂I still b sayin “hip-hopcrisy” outta nowhere
This scence is very accurate to how some elders act against rappers today
Preachers always make their sermons personal. Art imitating life!!!
That lil laugh at 1:34 takes me out
He says devil well he acting like one
Don't run away from the truth?😂
Ulysses Grant lmao fr
so sad he shouldn't say that to her
Right
He was so childish for that what kind of preacher is he
He was spot on on people who don’t realize that are leading a life of sin. Called her out for the truth
The girl has dreams don't understand how humiliation is of God
I know this was just a film, but that was low.
Honestly, I think he was wrong for that. When it comes to being in the house of God, it doesn't mean for insulting people, but BRINGING people together to come to Christ. Jesus didn't call the righteous but sinners to repentance and salvation.
Yeah, that pastor's words are a bunch of BULL!😠
"You may not like him, but you can't deny....... Pastor Jacob gat styyylllee" (only legends get this joke)
Jacob hates rap but he was spitting. 1:03
He was imitating Roxie😰😭
That was cold
1:26This Scene Really Hit Me Hard When I First Saw It😿😓😔😞😟😢😥😭😿"
Messed up there are preaches like this out there and why most people don’t want to go to church or just choose not to go to church.
Roxie Outfit is not something you should wear to church i mean don't get me wrong it cute but it looks like she going to a party
Kirk Franklin: *how dare u disrespect me*
My favorite scene in the movie 🤣🤣
Dude why you gotta hurt the girls feelings man shes singing for the lord and when she said its good to be home she meant good to be with god.i hate t swift but im useing a line from a song of hers."haters gonna hate,hate,hate:(
That's some good preaching right there
HIP-HOP! Crisy
The man’s got bars tho ngl
poor Roxie
he's a jerk for humiliating roxie in front of everyone
This was absolutely hilarious, LMAO.
How?
I don't see how it's funny
Roxie, don't run away from the truth!
😂 🎶Don't run away.. Don't run away from the truth, cuz I'm not giving up on you🎶
He was right though 🤷🏻♂️😂
But the church doesn't judge? It's all loving? What a joke lol
0:58 He insulted Roxie because she’s curved😭
That was so mean 😪!
First of all I’m used to this because I gotta uncle that’s a pastor and he does this same thing. For two her music wasn’t even bad music she kept it pg13 and she wasn’t smoking, drinking, partying or none of that so what is he talking about. For three it wasn’t her fault that she been gone for so long she probably did want to be a star but her manger was controlling her and wouldn’t let her be who she wanted and you can see that through out the whole movie
Good day Sir. Please I am interested in downloading the complete movie of Let it Shine. Please how can I download it?
He was spittin fax
Jacob was a jerk in this movie📽🎦🎥🎞🎬!
I don't see how the stuff that he said had anything to do with Roxie though?🤔
Seriously? Lol hip hopcricy
How was he talking about Roxie
He was looking directly at her for most of the “sermon”, call out the hip hop genre (which she’s apart of) and her dancing specifically.
@@immanuela209 I see
She cried because the pastor reminded her about her mom and how she died
I don't think that was why
How did you come to that conclusion lmao
@@aricartercx His message was basically “You love the church so much? Then you never should’ve left.” When the reason she left was because she wanted to move past her mother’s death.
Why did he do that
He dislikes rap and hip hop music
Was spitting facts tho
Glad everybody thinks its ok that this poor girl was humiliated but they believe theyre people of god
Yeah right
Poor Roxie😟😔😔😔
Oh No
He should go to hell for that
He's so annoying
This is what cogic did to the Clark sisters
This is shit, not because he called her out, church is about confessing your sins, not letting them fade away so they can come back after a while.
Its just a movie. calm down
“It’s just a movie calm down”
I smell hypocrisy 👀
ThisPowWowYT “iTs jUst a MoViE cAlM dOwN”
ItS jUsT a MoViE cAlM dOwN 🤡
Why would he do that
She was probably embarrassed
The best
I didn't get 😕
Nice one from the pastor. He gave it raw. You don't have to paint the truth in the Church because someone will get offended
He literally criticized it to mainly Roxie (or Roxy not sure about the spelling) after she came and sang about being home. It was unecessary and rude
River Wing There’s a difference between painting the truth and being a criticizing-judgmental asshole
He was criticizing her because of her career, pastors do that shit, they look at a “”flawed”” person and call them out for no reason and make them an example of “sinning”
bro sshutup
And Christians like you is why no one wants to turn to your hypocritical religion, gtfo. Christianity is about firgiveness and love, you are not that
that is so rude
august 3rd my birthday
So rude and mine
What's hypocrisy?
Imagine someone telling you not to do something only to later see them doing the thing they told you not to do. That's hypocrisy
@@Will-pl4tp Oh, so like the advice I got from an unfiltered coworker (UC), I guess. He's a college man l find immature and kind of obnoxious. He just likes to kid around, but it's not always so obvious to me. For example, he once mentioned a coworker's sagging belly, face-to-face. I don't think said coworker resented that--and I think they've been buds for a while--but you can see how the weight joke made me think less of UC's character. He had also once snuck up on the guy with a loud scream and fingers in the waists. And me...he dissed my "bowl hair" a couple of times, though I will admit the first time his girlfriend said he was just having fun with me. Still, I guess I officially decided he's hardly anything more than a jack@ss, who pretty much has no feelings; the more you clown around, the harder you can be taken seriously, right? I think that's why I once told him to "put a sock in your @ss...I mean your mouth." See, I was about to tell a coworker something when UC interrupted me, I think with some playful diss. I can't remember. I guess I was annoyed with the _way_ he interrupted me. I think he said I can't speak to him that way. Maybe certain people? He's _ironically_ a student leader. I can't remember his response so well, but either way, he was upset. Later, I said, "Hey, I'm sorry for saying [said quote]." From what I remember, he replied, "You're good man. You just need to learn how to speak to people." I should've pointed out his tip was hypocritical, referencing his weight and bad hair jokes. And I also should've mentioned it's not fair to give me a lecture after I sincerely apologized. That kind of defeats the purpose of implying he forgives me, you know?
Hip Hopcracy? What's that supposed to mean?
Basically if u have watched the movie then u know how he doesn’t like hip hop or rap and thank it’s devils music kind of so he was just referring it to that
Idk if that made sense
God, you guys taking this literal, Its a movie, and even worse, A disney movie. So they can't put anything that requires a certain religion. Otherwise the complaints would be flying in.
This is funny!!!
Pastor was speaking nothing but fact
No he wasn’t
He had a point