I went to the Armorer course in Hawaii. It was 4 weeks. I was considered the weapon specialist in our scout platoon. You are right, gunsmithing comes easy. I work/taught on a lot of systems. I told EOTech to unf**k their stuff. We needed their quick range finding capability for the 240 as a modified SDM. But the site has to work first, ya know. Seems like they corrected their stuff since then.
These are all great courses! Especially EOCA, so many outside of the EOD and Engineer communities know this course exists. You were spot on with UMO, MRT, and Battle Staff. They all expand one's wheelhouse.
SOTACC (JTAC certification) was definitely useful for my team. I was responsible for coordinating anything air related. Not only for CAS, but for ISR, fixed/rotary-wing logistics, and jumps. it didn’t matter if we were dropping bundles for resupply in combat, dropping bombs on the enemy, or coordinating our exfil platform. I planned it all and worked with all branches of the military. It was a huge piece as far as logistics in combat was concerned.
Air Assault School!!! learning how to hitch to choppers and Fast Roping before you get into SF. I was a Bat boy 3/75th in the nineties and can tell you that this school is a must have for helo operations no matter where you go in the Military. Any Land Nav Courses are also a must especially for anyone in the infantry, especially radio operators and officers calling in strike coordinates. Another good school is Sere school to prepare you for not just the threat of capture, but also survival training. Try to take all of the Sere courses. Ranger school is great also, because not only do you learn in depth infantry tactics, but the leadership skills and testing your mental and physical endurance to find your limits really pays off in the end, not to mention the promotion points. ( Although I understand why most SF guys that did not come from RANGER BATS find this course a waste of time as they already get all of the benefits of RANGER school on a daily basis). Also, going airborne before SF is great to help get ready for those operations you will face as an operator. ALOT has changed since I was in the army of course. But I am sure these will help anybody getting into the SF Career before they ACTUALLY make that choice to dive in deep.
I think AA is definitely a good course to attend, but I don't think SF or even infantry troops should push hard for it. Rappelling and fast-roping should NOT be tied to a course for SOF and infantry units. Those skills should be trained at the unit level to get everyone certified on those specific methods, not sling loading. AA is a course that I think is more suitable for troops who are in HQs or in support units (like the riggers and forward support units) who would do most of the sling load ops. When I was in the 82nd, my section got tasked with being on the Pathfinder team for the brigade and we got trained up by the qualified Pathfinder and we had a couple of AA qualified NCOs who taught us sling-loading. We were working lass tac jumps, AA operations in the field, and sling load ops during CORPS EDRE or other large exercises where 80% of us weren't school qual'd. Now, I'm not saying that infantry and SOF shouldn't have AA qual'd troops, only that it shouldn't be a priority for them because in the end, it is a tasking that support troops should be handling most of the time. Hell, you could send troops to Fort Gregg-Adams (Fort Lee) or request a mobile course for their Sling Load Inspector Certification Course (SLICC). Yeah, people want to get a badge, but there is an alternative option that skips all of that and get people trained to do the tasking which is most important. Now, your views on Ranger and airborne may not be applicable. SF is very unique and it really doesn't matter what unit you serve in. You simply have to be competent, mature, and prepare yourself to go through the process. The SF pipeline will prepare you for the job, so you could have been a cook for 6 yrs in leg land and still have just as much of a chance than someone who spent 4 yrs in Ranger Regiment who happens to lack maturity or isn't a team player. All the little things get exposed in selection, so the best thing you can do is be the best soldier you can be in whatever unit and MOS you may be in, and then fully prepare yourself for selection. SF soldiers are created through their process and they seek well rounded individuals who may have a bunch of schools or are simply great soldiers at their units.
I was once offered Air Assault School when I was a PFC… But it would’ve cut into my leave… I chose leave instead. 🤷🏻♂️ This isn’t a school that helps your career.
Air Assault School's curriculum should be restructured. You could leave out rappelling and sling loading, and just have fast roping, spie rigging, and culminate with a airmobile assault and follow-on objective. With that being said, Air Assault should be mandatory before Airborne, and part of the process to go ARSOF. Rangers, SF, and even conventional units do air assaults all the time, might as well have the badge. Any soldiers that fail Ranger or SF selection would go to the big army with not only airborne wings for the scouts, but Air assault also. Everyone gets skills, everyone gets another badge, everyone's happy.
My goals on my way to earning my green beret are to go to air assault, pathfinder,halo, and combat diver. Once i complete my time on team i want to go to DS school.
Sgt I’m shocked you didn’t mention SFARTAETC. Even as a leg with my training with SF I was told this was one of the best schools in the Army. Looked up the qualifications to go and they were CRAZY elite. Please do a video on SFARTAETC.
I have a subject that is off-topic that some may have something to say about. I was told that the Army no longer uses the DA photo for your official file...it used to be part of the promotion packet process. The reason I was as told is because they have transgendered members in the military now and their photo would hinder them. It's a crazy military now.
Just to put it out there, big army reduced EOCA down to two weeks. It is very watered down version of what it used to be and basically only covers ordnance identification
lol…. You don’t want to be at the mercy of Big Army. These schools can help outside of the military. Get as many schools as you can while you’re in. Even when you’re in retirement mode, they have training at the retirement center. Truck driver, welding, building manager…..get it all!!! Battle staff can relate to civilian life…you worked in a very high paced work environment, anywhere from 12 to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. And you learned all those computer programs like ArcGIS, guess who is using ArcGIS now? Police departments. Even if you don’t like the school or training, Just do it! You can make it all relate to civilian jobs.
I'm prior service and I have an 18X contract through the National Guard. My break in service is longer than 3 years. With that, I have to go through basic training...again. My biggest concern is if my basic training platoon isn't full of guys with 18X and Option 40 contracts. If that's the case, I fear I'll get out of shape before I hit SOPC. The kicker to those contracts, you can't have a bad day. One failed gate, contract voided.
@@Golgi-Gyges there's a difference between being disciplined and being forced to follow a training schedule. In BASIC TRAINING, you PT when they tell you to. You can't do your own thing. Unfortunately being behind a computer screen allows your type to keep breathing. I pray one day we meet face to face.
@@ejmolloy2954 you don't know anything about me, turd. I said what I said and it's true. How long is basic training? You must not be in good shape if you are afraid that you cannot bounce back after a month or two.
Wow...my UMO school was nothing. There was 1 slot left and my XO tossed me in. ZERO hazmat, focus was railhead and measurements between wheels and cars, that's it. Then I was told that skill is obsolete due to contractors doing it. Oh, it was civilian ran and taught on Ft Campbell.
😂 It's hilarious that you would put those two things in comparison. I wonder your ages... Unit Movement Officer is just a sit-down class inside of a building for a week or two Ranger School isn't that at all
I went to the Armorer course in Hawaii. It was 4 weeks. I was considered the weapon specialist in our scout platoon. You are right, gunsmithing comes easy. I work/taught on a lot of systems. I told EOTech to unf**k their stuff. We needed their quick range finding capability for the 240 as a modified SDM. But the site has to work first, ya know. Seems like they corrected their stuff since then.
These are all great courses! Especially EOCA, so many outside of the EOD and Engineer communities know this course exists. You were spot on with UMO, MRT, and Battle Staff. They all expand one's wheelhouse.
SOTACC (JTAC certification) was definitely useful for my team. I was responsible for coordinating anything air related. Not only for CAS, but for ISR, fixed/rotary-wing logistics, and jumps. it didn’t matter if we were dropping bundles for resupply in combat, dropping bombs on the enemy, or coordinating our exfil platform. I planned it all and worked with all branches of the military. It was a huge piece as far as logistics in combat was concerned.
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May God Bless you and your family for your service and your sacrifice to our beautiful country.
Were you a 18E?
Air Assault School!!! learning how to hitch to choppers and Fast Roping before you get into SF. I was a Bat boy 3/75th in the nineties and can tell you that this school is a must have for helo operations no matter where you go in the Military. Any Land Nav Courses are also a must especially for anyone in the infantry, especially radio operators and officers calling in strike coordinates. Another good school is Sere school to prepare you for not just the threat of capture, but also survival training. Try to take all of the Sere courses. Ranger school is great also, because not only do you learn in depth infantry tactics, but the leadership skills and testing your mental and physical endurance to find your limits really pays off in the end, not to mention the promotion points. ( Although I understand why most SF guys that did not come from RANGER BATS find this course a waste of time as they already get all of the benefits of RANGER school on a daily basis). Also, going airborne before SF is great to help get ready for those operations you will face as an operator. ALOT has changed since I was in the army of course. But I am sure these will help anybody getting into the SF Career before they ACTUALLY make that choice to dive in deep.
I think AA is definitely a good course to attend, but I don't think SF or even infantry troops should push hard for it. Rappelling and fast-roping should NOT be tied to a course for SOF and infantry units. Those skills should be trained at the unit level to get everyone certified on those specific methods, not sling loading. AA is a course that I think is more suitable for troops who are in HQs or in support units (like the riggers and forward support units) who would do most of the sling load ops. When I was in the 82nd, my section got tasked with being on the Pathfinder team for the brigade and we got trained up by the qualified Pathfinder and we had a couple of AA qualified NCOs who taught us sling-loading. We were working lass tac jumps, AA operations in the field, and sling load ops during CORPS EDRE or other large exercises where 80% of us weren't school qual'd. Now, I'm not saying that infantry and SOF shouldn't have AA qual'd troops, only that it shouldn't be a priority for them because in the end, it is a tasking that support troops should be handling most of the time. Hell, you could send troops to Fort Gregg-Adams (Fort Lee) or request a mobile course for their Sling Load Inspector Certification Course (SLICC). Yeah, people want to get a badge, but there is an alternative option that skips all of that and get people trained to do the tasking which is most important.
Now, your views on Ranger and airborne may not be applicable. SF is very unique and it really doesn't matter what unit you serve in. You simply have to be competent, mature, and prepare yourself to go through the process. The SF pipeline will prepare you for the job, so you could have been a cook for 6 yrs in leg land and still have just as much of a chance than someone who spent 4 yrs in Ranger Regiment who happens to lack maturity or isn't a team player. All the little things get exposed in selection, so the best thing you can do is be the best soldier you can be in whatever unit and MOS you may be in, and then fully prepare yourself for selection. SF soldiers are created through their process and they seek well rounded individuals who may have a bunch of schools or are simply great soldiers at their units.
I was once offered Air Assault School when I was a PFC… But it would’ve cut into my leave… I chose leave instead. 🤷🏻♂️
This isn’t a school that helps your career.
@@SNAKEEATER1776 any school, especially those with badges help your career.
Air Assault School's curriculum should be restructured. You could leave out rappelling and sling loading, and just have fast roping, spie rigging, and culminate with a airmobile assault and follow-on objective.
With that being said, Air Assault should be mandatory before Airborne, and part of the process to go ARSOF. Rangers, SF, and even conventional units do air assaults all the time, might as well have the badge. Any soldiers that fail Ranger or SF selection would go to the big army with not only airborne wings for the scouts, but Air assault also. Everyone gets skills, everyone gets another badge, everyone's happy.
Battle Staff is a huge one for those seeking to become Senior NCOs.
Thanks for the information, can't wait to apply it
Glad it was helpful!
I agree 100% with this...good video!!
Also forBravos, 19k mos school. 3 weeks, is pretty good school
I was waiting to say Battle Staff. Trying to get in that now, and its 23 days
My goals on my way to earning my green beret are to go to air assault, pathfinder,halo, and combat diver. Once i complete my time on team i want to go to DS school.
I did umo with the nasty guard
Sgt I’m shocked you didn’t mention SFARTAETC. Even as a leg with my training with SF I was told this was one of the best schools in the Army. Looked up the qualifications to go and they were CRAZY elite. Please do a video on SFARTAETC.
This is more big army schools, not schools within SOF
@@GreenBeretChronicles that’s true
Not everyone has to go to this school, because you will have a few members go to the school and bring it back to the team, during team training.
I agree 100%
very informative thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a subject that is off-topic that some may have something to say about.
I was told that the Army no longer uses the DA photo for your official file...it used to be part of the promotion packet process.
The reason I was as told is because they have transgendered members in the military now and their photo would hinder them.
It's a crazy military now.
i wanna learn more about map and compass. ,pretty familiar with gps. but need more nave skills. have a good day.
Army Mountain Warfare School (winter & summer courses) in Vermont
Just to put it out there, big army reduced EOCA down to two weeks. It is very watered down version of what it used to be and basically only covers ordnance identification
lol…. You don’t want to be at the mercy of Big Army. These schools can help outside of the military. Get as many schools as you can while you’re in. Even when you’re in retirement mode, they have training at the retirement center. Truck driver, welding, building manager…..get it all!!! Battle staff can relate to civilian life…you worked in a very high paced work environment, anywhere from 12 to 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. And you learned all those computer programs like ArcGIS, guess who is using ArcGIS now? Police departments. Even if you don’t like the school or training, Just do it! You can make it all relate to civilian jobs.
hey jay i was wondering do these school just apply to special forces or can guys from ranger batt go to these schools too? thanks
Anyone can
Can prior service join the 18x program?
Yes
I'm prior service and I have an 18X contract through the National Guard. My break in service is longer than 3 years. With that, I have to go through basic training...again. My biggest concern is if my basic training platoon isn't full of guys with 18X and Option 40 contracts. If that's the case, I fear I'll get out of shape before I hit SOPC. The kicker to those contracts, you can't have a bad day. One failed gate, contract voided.
@@ejmolloy2954I would say that if you aren't disciplined enough to stay fit regardless of the situation, you aren't a good fit for SF.
@@Golgi-Gyges there's a difference between being disciplined and being forced to follow a training schedule. In BASIC TRAINING, you PT when they tell you to. You can't do your own thing. Unfortunately being behind a computer screen allows your type to keep breathing. I pray one day we meet face to face.
@@ejmolloy2954 you don't know anything about me, turd.
I said what I said and it's true. How long is basic training? You must not be in good shape if you are afraid that you cannot bounce back after a month or two.
Wow...my UMO school was nothing. There was 1 slot left and my XO tossed me in. ZERO hazmat, focus was railhead and measurements between wheels and cars, that's it. Then I was told that skill is obsolete due to contractors doing it. Oh, it was civilian ran and taught on Ft Campbell.
Oh wow!
Hey Jay can a 18C volunteer to be a sergeant for a standard 12 series unit?
Why would an 18C want to do that?
@@SNAKEEATER1776don’t know, just a random question that I had.
The answer is yes. However, not as an 18C. He would have to reclass out of 18 series. In all my time in SF I never heard of anyone doing that.
UMO school is harder than ranger school
Not really
I think that depends on location and instructor/s. My class had a 100% graduation rate. The hardest part was staying awake.
😂
It's hilarious that you would put those two things in comparison. I wonder your ages...
Unit Movement Officer is just a sit-down class inside of a building for a week or two
Ranger School isn't that at all
Not even close
@@dixonbourne youre right its much harder