HE IS A DRUGGED-OUT MAN BABY! Why People Are Talking About Joe Rogan, Zack Snyder, Climate Change, &
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00:36 - Joe Rogan Faces Backlash For Remarks About Homeless People
05:15 - Report Alleges Snyder Cut Movement Was Aided by Bots and Zack Snyder Himself
09:37 - Spanish Man Filmed Escaping Wildfire Treated for Serious Burns
11:14 - Young Children in Florida Struggle to Find Vaccines
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Joe Rogan Faces Backlash For Remarks About Homeless People:
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Report Alleges Snyder Cut Movement Was Aided by Bots and Zack Snyder Himself:
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Spanish Man Filmed Escaping Wildfire Treated for Serious Burns:
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Young Children in Florida Struggle to Find Vaccines:
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Edited by: James Girardier, Maxwell Enright, Julie Goldberg
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I think it's clear that Phil just doesn't want to wear pants.
No one wants to wear pants, it’s too hot out
Letting the crown jewels air out just feels so good😪
I think Phil wants us to wonder... It's like Schrodinger's Pants: Is Phil wearing them or is he not?
Exactly 😂
I think this is the truth
Screw the "camera angle", Phil, you've been looking younger every show for like two months. Proud of you, thanks for continually giving us the news.
I agree
Cheers from the Dominican Republic
May more balance and blessings come to us all *praying hands emoji* (sry im on my latop)
He's a skinny legend for sure.
He is returning to baby
@@antonio20123
If you press the Windows and the dot button at the same time it opens an emoji window if you're on a Windows OS laptop or PC :) 👍
Don't know if it works for Apple if that's what you're using.
At the start of the video I've also thought to myself "Does Phil look like a couple years younger or is that just me?"
He looks fantastic!
"The world is on fire" gets increasingly more literal with every passing second. I feel so goddamn jaded about the future.
The people who car the least are the people who won't have to deal with the aftermath. Sadly, these are often the people in power. Luckily these will slowly get replaced by people who need to change to ensure their own future as they will ahve to live with the effects. Sadly the change is slow and many countries are actively working againsta ny meaningfull change as it changes were the money goes to.
The only thing we can hope for is that it can be fixed before it is too late.
Don't allow it to cover your mindset. Our minds control what happens in our lives. What you confess you possess......
It was almost 40 degrees celsius, which is like 104 fahrenheit in germany a day or 2 ago.
I thought "Oh at least it's gonna cool down the next days" which is still 30 celsius or 86 fahrenheit and still pretty high temps for us.
We're not used to those kind of temperatures, it's crazy.
Monday it's gonna start climbing again to around 35 degrees (95 Fahrenheit) and possibly higher.
Someone please take me out, I don't want to slowly melt into a puddle.
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Its finally here
Every day of left wing rule is another tinder added to the flaming dumpster fire of made up grievances about made up identities.
100% Joe was giving an example of the police's priorities being whack
Not to mention he's with a good friend Tom Segura, whose comedy is structured in the very same way
lol spelled wack wrong lol
@@DJXBOYRD lol lol
@@DJXBOYRD idk what to tell you dude, different dialects maybe but whack is very much a spelling of whack
@@DJXBOYRD who fuckin CARESSSSS
That dude driving through a wildfire is the most badass thing I've seen in a long time. Glad he made it out alive
Hes alive. Hes not ok.
@@joeyjoejoejrshabadoo4311 there changed it. Happy ? 😂
He is fucking awesome. I really hope what he was doing made a difference
There is a fine line between heroism and insanity. I’m not sure what this guy is.
Micheal bay moment
As someone who was Homeless for 6 years, I am offended that Homeless is being changed to Unhoused. Partially a joke but at the same time it actually diminishes severity it is in a Homeless person's life it is to be Homeless. It feels like Unhoused is said to make people feel better about talking about a shitty situation, and in all honesty, their fucking comfort is bullshit when it comes to the discomfort of those who are Homeless.
And I'm also curious... Who decides to change these words? Was it homeless people that unanimously decided to change the word? Or was it "housed" people who took control of that?
Oh you were unhoused? Congratulations on getting out my man!
George Carlin was right yet again.
He didn't die...
He passed away!
Well said bud.
I was homeless for 3 and really don't care about that word. If anything it is more accurate. I had a home, it was a crappy Korean car that was rusted and made a lot of noise. Sure as shit was no house though.
Phil, you're wrong. It's not "If we don't do better, things will get far, far worse.", it's "things will get far, far worse. The degree of worse will be determined by how much better we do, today."
A lot more people are going to die from climate events, probably every year, from now on.
Also good to reassure that bad is still better than worse.
Don't lose hope y'all
go Vegan
I get what your you're trying to say, but people have been dying from climate events for as long as people have existed.
Go nuclear & tell communism to fuck off. We'll get much farther quicker.
@@littlemissink nope. Totally not gonna help.
While I agree he was clearly joking, I also agree that allowing advocates to talk about the unhoused is important. A lot of people fall into this situation and become invisible, and sadly too many Americans aren't joking when they express similar attitudes.
That's exactly why I wasn't sure if he was being satirical at first, because many people do say those sort of things and sincerely mean it. It's pretty horrible.
sounded to me like he was just pointing out the profound hypocrisy of the way LA enforces the law.
@@CandesamoTheGreat tasak ruclips.net/video/YatAytP-3_g/видео.html
😬
Just say homeless dude
Wasn’t clear that he was joking at all.. and to call Joe Rogan a comedian is a stretch
HAA!! For a SPLIT second I thought Phil was speaking into a hair dryer! 🤣🤣😂😂💇♀️
Yep I actually did a double take myself 🤣
It's literally the most common mic for podcasts. It sound way better than when he uses his cheap lav.
With that hair style, I’m not that surprised
I can see that LOL
What, doesn't everyone talk into their hairdryer while sitting on the floor?
I actually think it's kind of nice to see you just record stuff wherever available, even if you did them out at a park or something.
@John Doe moon lei ok l
A DeFranco in the wild would be a pretty cool video!
I live here in hollywood and it's literally reading about or hearing about yet another houseless person set on fire or shot to death during the pandemic.
Keep voting left lmao. Easy on crime and defunding the police all the while trying to crack down on everyday citizens having their guns.
Business losing business because COVID and then losing more business because of the homeless camps. And government refuses to help.
@@MrDoverfield taxes are high asf. Living expenses high asf. Crime high asf. Homelessness high asf. Woke mind virus running rampant. People leaving in droves. California is a shit show right now
Politicians aren't taking those homeless problems seriously because there aren't any encampments in front of their neighborhood. All these politicians are detached from our real world. They want our votes and our tax money but they don't face the danger of having their business constantly being robbed or having their home or car burn down because the homeless bonfires in front of their streets.
@L So anyone who moves to texas for their own self preservation is a piece of shit basically?
Big DC/Snyder fan here. People don’t realise that he took ZERO dollars from his cut of the film, he forfeit his entire pay in order to keep creative control. So it’s not about money. Not to mention after his daughters suicide, the Snyderverse fans started campaigns that raised over $500k for suicide prevention. That’s not something bots can do, but a passionate fanbase who care about a director and his work can and did. Snyderverse fans are extremely passionate but very well meaning, I can tell you because I was there. If anything i’d be way more inclined to believe that a small portion of the Snyderverse movement created bot accounts than Zack or WB did.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if WB are okay with pushing that bot narrative though, they’ve been trying to distance from Snyder for a while and focus on more “lighthearted” movies like Aquaman, Shazam, The Suicide Squad 2020, etc. The Flash movie is meant to wrap up all Snyder’s DCEU contributions and essentially hit reset so they can do whatever they want going forwards without affecting continuity. Even when they did greenlight his cut it felt more like they were just trying to get it over with so fans would stop asking for it, and so they could move on with their new vision for the DCEU.
Either way the film made lots of money, Zack got to make his film and the fans got to see it, so everyone involved should be happy.
There’s and 85% chance you’re real.
As someone who was homeless for over a year; it's very obvious that Rogen was making a point about gun crime. I'm not a great fan of him but I really can't see anything wrong with what he said.
its seemed like he was making a point for sure
@@theonenonly2060 for homeless advocates who are trying to battle the dehumanization of homeless people, it's like listening to comedians joking about lynchings of black people in the south, might not be in good taste.
Very obvious *to you*
Remember there are people who voted for Trump, twice. Intelligence isn't in abundance in the states...
@@sirlancegeo and joes point is nothin gets done about homeless killings but God forbid you move there stuff.
and the dude saying "the homeless are being killed by the homed" is just ridiculous. it's other homeless people killing them.
He was making a dark joke. Anyone pretending that they don't realize that is just being a dishonest scumbag.
A lot of love to Europe right now. Wildfire season is horrible and nobody should ever have to experience a heat wave this serious.
As a Californian that has had to evacuate my town three times in the past four years due to insane fires, European's are really experiencing something far worse than us; their homes aren't built for this heat and they're not prepapred for the fires. Hopefully they don't suffer too badly.
@@Fribee83 As someone who has been a Californian, TWO DAYS above 95 is nothing. And most places in California and the West Coast aren't built for 100 degree temps. Better get used to it because the planet goes through cyclical changes no matter whether there are humans present or not and has been much hotter.
@@Fribee83 thank you. Sadly we don’t have air conditioning and our homes and infrastructure isn’t prepared for any of this. It’s so scary that fires in the summer are now a reality across the world now. Even if you’re in an apparently temperate climate.
@@djchaiwallah we’ve had well over a week at 90f to 95f in London followed by two days above 100f. Only 1% of homes in the U.K. have air conditioning. This isn’t just us not coping with a normal summer. Yes we will have to change how we cope with summer but the U.K. has had multiple wildfires break out with 10 in London alone today, destroying multiple homes. Don’t look down on us just because this is new to us. It’s severe.
What surprised me the most is to learn many people don’t have AC. AC is very common over here, so why not there?
For a party that is all about protecting their rights, they sure do love telling people they can't have rights to things
Crazy right lol, no government over reach but let me tell over half the population what they can do with their bodies and let the rest conduct themselves as they please ;)
@@lilpenguin092 You must be misinformed about the recent Supreme Court decision. Don’t worry you’re not alone lol
@@calogero100 how so? all members of the current court who overturned roe v wade lied under oath about overturning previously settled cases. Tons of video proof that i'd be happy to provide links for.
Republicans go, states rights, but right now there are five pieces of legislation working to try and ban abortion nationally in the US being worked on by republicans
"right for me but not for thy,because im right and im right"
I’d like to see a single politician in my area be as bad ass as that guy in Spain fighting wildfires.
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Its finally here
So on the homelessness issue, it’s important to look up the court case Martin v. Boise. Boise is not a blanket decision, but essentially the 9th circuit ruled that as long as an unhoused person is encamped on public property, and that they are not committing a crime, or not posing an immediate safety risk (e.g. camping in the middle of the street, railroad tracks, etc.), legally local governments can’t have them moved unless they have a shelter bed that they can take them to. People on private property are still trespassing and can be forced to be moved. People breaking the law can still be arrested. Essentially the courts ruled this so that local governments don’t effectively outlaw homelessness and push them out into remote areas or other jurisdictions. Rather it is to push governments to work on an actual solution. This is a huge challenge due to funding, but also people fervently pushing back against the creation of homeless shelters in their neighborhood (especially wealthier neighborhoods). You see this with affordable housing too. People like the idea of it, but just as long as it’s in the hood, not their community. This is why CA has such a problem. There are other cities/counties that have a cleaner image, but many do so at a hidden human cost.
Tell that to the Phoenix (AZ) police department. They do sweeps EVERY. MORNING. They throw away people's belongings if people can't get them together and leave the downtown area in a matter of minutes. It's truly disgusting the way PHX police treats them. I'm glad they are being investigated for this very reason, but unfortunately it hasn't stopped them.
For context though, the Phoenix police, I believe, had the highest death by police rate in the nation. So it is not like their biggest is just 2hat they are doing with the homeless population.
@@annaeeee7516 there are not many homeless who are able to fight the police or the city government in court even if what they are doing is illegal. when you have no shelter, and barely any beloingings, you're spending all your time and energy just trying to get your basic needs met and have little time or money to spend on legal battles with the local government.
I live in an area with a lot of homeless drug addicts in tents. Having watched the quality of life degrade over the years, that this population has grown, I don't blame anyone for not wanting a homeless shelter in their neighborhood.
That might sound harsh, but they aren't just a problem because they break into apartment buildings and steal, they're a problem because they're dangerous--especially to other homeless. When homeless people are murdered, it's almost always by other homeless.
@@alex-qd6of
You could always try compassion, rather than only making it worse.
The climate crisis is getting very real and very scary, in the UK today where we reached 40 degrees in many places there were at least 4 major fires across london to the point where 110 fire engines were involved and it was declared a major incident
Last year in Vancouver it was 53 degrees. A ton of people died.
I think by the time the world leaders actually take global warming seriously it will already be too late. I just hope they have Bezos or Musk building them a space fleet for when this rock were on starts to burn out of control. Maybe that mission to Mars in 2026-2030 is really just an escape plan.
@@josephtracey4411 I think the easiest thing to prove climate change is for us to look out our windows and see (in the UK) that we have fucking wildfires. Which, too my knowledge, has never happened due to heat before. What a bad faith take you have.
That sounds awful! Last year, here in Oregon/Washington State, we had a heat dome for over a month. We were enduring 37-40 degrees daily. Unfortunately, this feels more and more like the new norm for a while. Stay safe and cool over there
Think it's just getting more personal in areas ppl thought they were safe because they've already been droughts and other issues caused by it that caused a lot more deaths/issues.
there was a story like last year or maybe 2 years ago about specifically cops throwing away peoples property in LA, that were unhoused. I remember it specifically bc an unhoused vet had his wheelchair thrown away by officers and there was a whole damage control stink about if from the officers. With stories like that so etched into my mind it seems laughable to even joke that police do anything at all to help or protect the unhoused or their property. The fact that murder rates have jumped so much for the unhoused further enforces how abandoned they are by our current system, as murder victims are more often belong to groups that have less cultural protection as they are easier targets.
They're homeless not unhoused
@@apostatis whats the difference
@@apostatis they mean the same thing, but "unhoused" doesn't have decades (centuries?) of stigma and prejudice around it making it easier to realize these people are people with different needs and situations and not some monolith.
Further, many unhoused people do have a place to return to every night, which you might call a home. From an article supporting more thoughtful language:
"'We do have a home-my tent is my home,' said Tiara D. Swearington, whom I met up with the other week at the Athol Plaza tennis courts, where she lives with her sister and about 10 others. 'We’ve got a kitchen, we’ve got a bathroom,' she said, gesturing to the group’s charcoal grills and portable toilets." - oaklandside.org/2020/11/10/homeless-unhoused-unsheltered-word-choice-matters-when-reporting-on-oaklanders-who-dont-have-permanent-housing/
When it comes to climate change, a kids book I read when I was 4 has put it better than I've heard since.
"Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It's not."
I read that Little Bill book too lol
@@lilpenguin092 that quote is from "The Lorax" by Dr. Seuss
I read that to my son many times. He just graduated from college with a degree in environmental science and got hired as an experienced wildland firefighter for the National Forest Service ❤️
Anytime I hear about the climate all I can remember is the bit Bill Nye did where he flat out said the earth was on *bleep* fire. A co worker of mine thinks we are too far gone to reverse any of the climate change and, to be honest, I am beginning to feel that too. Any chance we could get an interview with one of the scientists looking at the ever changing climate and ask them are we too far gone?
Even if we're too far to reverse climate change, damage mitigation is still possible, and implementing policy to lessen the impact on those effected is still important.
Things will remain this bad for a while, but it can always get worse
Feels that way to me too. Hopefully it's just gloom and doom outlook that humans are so predisposed to, but it really does feel like things took a critical turn around 2018 or so and since then weather-related extremes are all over. Whether it be heatwaves, cold snaps, droughts, flash floods and torrential rains or earthquakes/hurricanes. No part of the year is calm/better, there's always some sort of disaster going on somewhere.
We're still leaving the ice age bud, this is something the earth has been doing since the beginning
@@AndrewB23 Crack a book John.
Let’s all remember that joe rogan endorsed desantis as a guy who protects freedom and would make a good president. Rogan is not a smart man
The only political issue that Rogan had been consistent on is weed, and even that's something that DeSantis is unsurprisingly against. Yet he still thinks he'd make a good President.
@@82Jaster Yup. Too many shots to the head
I think it’s worth noting that Snyder is often discussed as one of the kindest and easiest people to work with in Hollywood. The man has displayed great humility across his entire career including never engaging in bad mouthing the very executives at WB that had problems with him. Also many of those executives engaged in racist and sexist behavior while covering for the that same behavior exhibited by Joss Whedon.
What does it matter that a large percentage of hashtags are fake if the product that those tags created was far more successful than the Whedon cut of the film which couldn’t break even.
amen
There was no "Whedon" cut, it was the cut of the film Whedon was required to make as the executives wanted it - no different that what they had already decided, and would have required Snyder to make. Anyone who thinks the first film was Whedon's fault, or much different that the an original release would have been with Snyder, is just delusional.
Also, you mean those same executives that repeatedly blocked Whedon from featuring progressive mixed and black relationships in his shows? Your right, jsut as sexist as Whedon for continuously fighting for that kind of thing pmsl
Whedon was a dick, to absolutely everyone equally. Not excusable in itself, but not anything like what people have suggested.
The Florida story just reminds me,
It's always freedom of what to do with your body until the politician says no
Pro-life politicians should quit dancing around the issue and just call themselves pro-birth. Once you're out of the womb, it seems like all they want is to make life hard for you
@@foot2theballs reminds me of that George Carlin quote
Very true!
@@ThomasYTArchive Ah, that is a Carlin bit! I just heard it from one of my friends, not realizing where they got it haha
I can see it as a joke but I can see where the homeless are coming from. I was homeless when I was 20 and used to sleep at my job bc it was 24 hrs and I had an awesome manager. Not everyone gets as lucky as I did and my heart goes out to those struggling.
Yeah, and the "point" he was making with that joke just wasn't valid at all. People who are homeless are constantly getting ticketed and jailed for petty crime but crime against them rarely prosecuted. And no, you can't go around messing with other people's stuff, unless you're the police and they do it to homeless people all the time.
@@Nikki-lodeon Fr after I got my truck and I was living out of that for a short time the police loved messing with me constantly. I know it wasn't just coincidental either, bc other than that year I've only been pulled over once. During that year, 4 times in 4 months. I agree with you and people who don't think homeless people get messed with more, just don't understand it because they've never had to live through it. It really is a reality check.
Also the comments before the shooting comment kind of imply how JR feels about the unhoused, so I can understand why people take it as bad taste humour or incitement especially bc like some have said, those who don't view unhoused ppl as people don't need any encouragement
@@Nikki-lodeon that’s literally the point he’s making. He’s saying that no one in LA cares about the homeless crisis. He’s spoken about this so many times before and has always said that LA are failing the homeless
@@Nikki-lodeon depends where you live. In portland, they aren't being ticketed or jailed for petty crime. Including drugs, which were decriminalized a while back. Tickets would be pointless, since they wouldn't pay them, but I wish that they we're being jailed. It might cut down on the break-ins, which have grown exponentially, along with their population. Also, I've known people who got into recovery, because they got sick of jail.
Furthermore, the police aren't able to enter your tent, without a search warrant--even if you saw them grab your phone, and enter their tent.
The enabling isn't helpful to them, or the rest of us. The victims of homeless violence, and other crimes, are most often homeless themselves.
I did get the same impression as you did Phil. It felt like Rogan was pointing out the poor priorities in our system.
It's a bad take because homeless people still get their shit taken or stolen, often even by the police. Murder is more illegal and harder to get away with than breaking a court president that says the government needs a shelter available if they want to move them. To pretended police are more likely to prevent or investigate someone for moving a homeless person things then a murder is just wrong.
@@LOgomon20 I mean it's not a bad take per se, since the point he makes is valid. It's more just insensitive and in poor taste. In this day and age Rogan should have known he had to qualify that statement/joke by explaining what he was really trying to say.
@@LOgomon20 It's not even a take dude. Rogan isn't actually suggesting that someone do that. Look at the smirk afterwards. Rogan was clearly making ironic commentary about how backward it is that violent crime would garner less response than theft or moving someone's property.
@@LOgomon20 Or maybe it could start a conversation to help reduce those crime rates.
@@Caennuck yeah but why does he always burry his point of view under 6 feet of toxic assholery rather than discussing this in an appropriate manner. He always comes across as if he likes it much more to rile people up with his wording rather than actually making a good point.
you know its a awesome show when Phil is on the floor telling the sheets and floor rug about the crazy things this week 🤣❤️
Floor show 100/10
Read what you want, I'm not your dad
Hell yeah!! This make this comment a voting poll for Phil to ALWAYS BE ON THE FLOOR > : )
I wish politicians were taken as literally as Joe.
100%. Its obvious to anyone with a brain that he's not actually advocating for shooting homeless people.
But people will make a big deal about it, come across as completely detached from reality, and then wonder why people won't listen to them anymore.
You can. When they talk about taking away rights.
joe mama
For real
There are right leaning politicians advocating for the exact shit he is “joking” about thats why its a problem he feels so comfortable making those jokes.
He also promotes those so many of those prominent right wing names frequently, quite literally pushing that agenda forward.
When does it no longer be interpreted as just jokes?
When he straight up says “I am not joking, shoot all homeless people.” ? Or does he have to start bringing literal nazis back on and agreeing with them on the majority of issues?
Because I personally think the dogwhistles and subsequent lack of responsibility shows plenty of evidence for either true malice or ignorance beyond the pale of being saved. You dont have to interpret this as a literal response to this one “joke”. Its more about the context of his real life endorsements and past behaviors. Its a persistent pattern.
Thank you for covering climate concerns/issues. Please continue to do so.
Please Phil! I would also add to put those stories near the beginning of the video ahead of a lot celebrity drama stories. This is far more important.
doesnt really solve them anyway.
@@alexanderphilip1809 so if you cant solve it, you cant talk about it? what
I live in a gorgeous little town off the coast of Kenya. We are seeing climate change for real. It is supposed to be the hot season, full of tourists etc, instead it is cold and constantly raining. That never used to be the case. Upcountry in Nairobi the weather is in single digits. As an equatorial country that also never happens unless you go to top of Mt. Kenya. Climate change is real and a problem. It needs more coverage.
@@StuntedSnail they may be far more important but they're not what attracts most viewers unfortunately 😕
If you think Joe actually believes what he said, and Tom was sincere when he agreed and said 'I like how you think' then you don't know either of those people, nor their content, and maybe you shouldn't be just watching this one clip to form an opinion..
Man, that Joe Rogan has said A LOT that I don't agree with, but you'd need to be pretty ignorant to think he was being serious...
Nobody thinks that... It's still a shitty thing to joke about because it will lead to even more hate against homeless people, who have a hard enough life as it is
@@YGAkira Where did I say out of nowhere?
@@insu_na ok you tell us what we're allowed to joke about. you seem to know
@@minibobber you're allowed to STFU and minecraft yourself :)
Joe was clearly talking about how he feels that California is too soft on crime and specifically gun violence. To say he was advocating violence against homeless people is intentionally misrepresenting him.
He was talking about his concerns with homelessness right when the pandemic started and how it was going to get worse. He's specifically called out LA for mismanaging it dozens of times. He's said these people need help, and has accused the people in charge of fixing the problem with just lining their pockets and not wanting to fix the problem. He even had a guy on that wants to run for governor and his main stance is fixing the homeless problem and joe gave him a platform and let him talk for 3 hours. People that think that was anything other than a joke either don't know anything about the guy they're criticizing or are intentionally misrepresenting him for their own gain
Yeah I don't know how people missed this. He made a joke about the system. He's not saying to go kill homeless people.
I don't watch Joe Rogan at all. I dislike podcasts for whatever reason. So I'm not sure how people can miss that what he said was not "I want violence" and instead it was "California is too soft on criminals."
I don't even really like Rogan but yeah he was obviously only joking and he's being misrepresented. Hopefully the situation leads to better understanding of the homeless situation. Silver linings, as they say.
@@naturally_rob I never felt either way about him and would here or see him in clips, I also found podcasts boring. I drive for work now though, so long conversations are kinda entertaining because the radio gets old. I still disagree with the guy a lot but I feel like I have enough of a baseline on him and understand how incredibly popular he is. Like I said, it's either ignorance or for gain, and unfortunately it's normally people latching onto his name for clout. I'm a California resident and I'd really like to see the crime in my neighborhoods go away and for our state to actually do something for our homeless. I live in vallejo, a poverty stricken town outside of Oakland, and we have 3 or 4 pretty big tent encampments, they're not tent cities yet, but they're working that way and not the other way
@@ThumpertTheFascistCottontail I appreciate your optimism. I hope something comes out of this instead of a bunch of mudslinging and the oh so tired "I'm better than you and that's all that matters" grandstanding while people are literally dying and becoming homeless every day
hating Joe is seeming to be cool atm..SMH.
I've been homeless due to horribly unfortunate life circumstances out of my control (like many homeless people) and have experienced that side of humans who seem to believe kicking people while they're down is righteous. It's really dehumanizing and disgusting.
People in this very comment section (Phil included) thinks its funny and cool to joke about shooting you. Remember that
@@souldriver22 include me in the group that think it's funny 🙋🏻♀️
@@souldriver22 Everything can be funny. Get off your moral high horse, if you dont think its funny then dont watch him
@@AJ23mady Yeah we should throw homeless people and poor people in concentration camps.
@@souldriver22 Narrative, not theme, is what makes a message. Sarcastically joking about shooting us (I'm unhoused too) to _illustrate that it's a ridiculous idea_ is entirely different from actually joking that it should happen. I'm no Rogan stan but I think it's PAINFULLY obvious that he was making an inarticulate comparison about how people don't complain or react nearly as aggressively to violent crime rates as they do homelessness.
Joe Rogan was probably joking but he does have an increasingly elitist attitude and tone when talking about people in lower economic classes. He’s completely bought in to the whole bootstraps mentality and doesn’t think about the systemic failures that lead so many people to become homeless or impoverished.
Yeah, the systemic failures are important to address. But just because someone has problems they didn’t cause doesn’t mean it isn’t their problem to solve. Just yelling at people for systemic failures doesn’t change anything. Do better because the alternative isn’t pretty. The systemic failure of nature has given me immune issues combined with expensive health care means Life is really tough. But if I don’t focus on what I can do to live my best life, I’ll fall into depression. In saying that many homeless people are just unable to look after themselves, so I like those who work in the government put our hands in the air thinking “what to do”!
You definitely don't listen to him. He talks constantly about how impossible it is to get out of poor neighborhoods and how terrible the economic situation is. He constantly praises Austin for actually doing something about their unhoused population and how California constantly takes money but refuses to do anything that actually helps. He's definitely not a bootstraps guy, you're just inferring that because of how much he doesn't like California's unhoused policies. Which by the way, aren't great and aren't worth praising.
I don't agree with a lot of what he talks about, but saying he's a bootstraps guy is just insane.
Thank you for your statement on climate change. Sick of "news organizations" trying to "not have a point of view" in the face of stuff like this. Kudos to you for speaking out and taking a stance.
Given how messed up this whole Snyder situation is, on top of a whole bunch of other situations, I doubt anything Warner Bros says will be accepted as true.
So you believe that he didn't want to make more money on a movie that bombed
@@AndrewB23 My statement doesn't reflect my opinion of Zack Snyder specifically, it just reflects my thoughts on the DC fandom and their relation to WB. However, in answer to your question, of course, but like literally any director would want to have a chance to make more money on a film that was a financial disaster. Whether he did what the report suggests to get there, I do not know.
Because Warner has lied in regards to Snyderverse from the beginning and are still trying save face, because they've been proven wrong.
Real talk. I don't understand why Rolling Stone would do this story now.
Seems to me like WB got them to do a hatchet job on Snyder years after the fact. As a matter of fact, I don't believe those number who are bots because those companies that report bots have been caught creating bots in order to justify being hired (look up new knowledge). Have to drop the obligatory "Not a Snyder fan" because other than Justice League or some other DC movie I can't name a movie he directed.
@@Aaron-kj8dv Perhaps they thought it would be inappropriate to do it then cause they was so much going on over Joss Whedon at the time, so if they did it then, it may be interpreted as them covering for Joss (not saying they weren't already doing that ofc).
I normally dislike Joe Rogan, but that comment about the homeless seems like an obvious joke.
That was definitely my read on it. It didn't sound like he was advocating for it, it sounded like he was pointing out that it's a problem.
Clearly, and I'm sure it had to do with his guest too. Tom is famous for fucked up humor and they were just screwing around. The joke had nothing to do with homeless and was about his stance on California's crime and gun violence problem which he has been vocal about for a few years now.
“Um, actually it’s called unhome now”
But if nobody laughs it wasn't funny.
@@xwing2417 I think it was supposed to be more ironic than funny.
I didn’t take Rogans comment as anti homeless, I literally took that as pointing out how insanely violent those areas have gotten.
I live in Seattle area and it’s just insane, the cops will write you up for parking in the wrong spot during the day but after 11pm it’s basically the purge out there.
@Chad that's a shitty take
Anyone angry at joes comment about homeless people are just stupid, like him or not the dudes a comedian, with one of the biggest podcasts in the world, you don’t have to like him personally or agree with his politics, get angry when theirs a reason, not because you take a exaggerated joke to literal.
Yeah people getting upset over the comment are taking it as a single comment instead of as part of an entire conversation. Clip chimps that only hear what they want to hear.
@@shylogik He supports a literal fascist so its hard not to believe hes serious. Get your head out of your ass comedians dont have carteblanch to be able to say what they want.
I think their discussion of how 'if you take a homeless persons possessions they will arrest you, not him!", and the implication that, that's somehow surprising because they aren't real people and don't deserve possessions, is far more damaging than accidentally suggesting you could shoot homeless people and get away with it. Same goes for suggesting that they are too lenient on crime, in the worlds largest prison population in history, during a full blown authoritarian police state. They are too lenient on rich kids who sexually assault women, for sure, but they will still destroy your life over chemicals in a heartbeat. We need CJ reform, not harsher sentences, we need more detectives working serious crimes, and less cops writing tickets and searching underwear.
And P.S two rich dudes sitting around smoking cigars that are probably worth more than you make in a week, while discussing how the homeless can have property even while verging on trespassing, isn't a great look. I usually don't agree with outrages, and I don't think this was intentional, but I do think it was pretty inadvertently gross. Easily remedied though, and I actually do have faith in Rogan to do that, for all his faults I don't see him as an elitist, or someone blind to the struggles of poor people. And man, from personal experience, do homeless people ever need help... Especially the women, and younger folks, but all of them, no one should have to live through that hell. It changes you.
One of my grandmothers doctors still believes covid "paranoia" is driven by propaganda and "there is no need to worry." He has been against masks from the start, refused to put out hand sanatizer at his office, or adopt new safety messures beyond what was in place pre covid. He also still firmly supports Trump... I say again, THIS MAN IS A DOCTOR!
sounds like a smart guy
Very smart guy
Very smart man indeed
It still blows my mind that medicine and vaccines became politicized. Perhaps it was always a political tool but the level of discourse between dem. and rep. over vaccines during the start of the pandemic wasn’t because of pure skepticism, it can’t be.
The other side thinks that's going against God... they think prayer is the ONLY thing that helps... they truly need the help but refuse it
Just remember, Biden and KH both were anti jabers when Trump started rolling them out.
@@16driver16 No, only religious zealots.
@@16driver16 No its not, it's about taking credit. Kamala and Biden both said they wouldn't take the vaccine if it was finished and Trump was president I'm 2020
It isn't political. Being antivax is not a conservative thing and never was. It's an alternative medicine thing.
As a citizen in Florida all I can say is Governor DeSantis is an infection on our state and everything he does just seems to drive us more in the ground. I hope the children are able to get vaccinations before anything severe or deadly happens with them and the virus and that our governor understands soon that is what needs to be done (though I highly doubt he would ever agree)
As a fellow Floridian... Nope. We love him lol
He's never going to do what's best for the people of Florida. Vote him out. I wouldn't trust him to run a Target.
What the cuck are you on about, where is the data on very sick or dying children... there isn't any.
As a Texan, I can relate to having a governor that is like a cancer to the state.
DeSantis likely believes he's saving people, and making the hard choices. That's often how people feel when they hold these misinformed facts about vaccinations.
Messy hair Phil is my new favorite
You mean Phil-vorite?
He's so cute 😍
@@sololay3861 😂 yes
Honestly kinda H O T and a skinny legend
Floridian here: I got covid last week, double vaxxed, and it was a lot of coughing, congestion, some aches, but i got through it pretty quick and am on the mends now. We are definitely seeing it rip through though.
ruclips.net/video/YatAytP-3_g/видео.html
Its finally here
Floridian here. Hate my governor. I don't even understand the point of his political grandstanding at this long into the pandemic. I wish him a swift and clean exit from office where he should never sit in any position of power ever again.
Sadly there are plenty in our lovely state, as well as DeSantis' own party, that are *really* pushing for his presidential campaign :/
You had me at hate the governor
He running for president fa
I agree that Joe Rogan didn’t mean that literally, but I do think it’s important to make sure you clarify when you’re a public figure unfortunately, since you know there’s always people who will take things literally.
good thing that joe doesn't care
A comedian had to explain an obvious joke or people stop taking the smallest thing and blow it out of proportion.
Everyone is trying to use him as a platform to get clout.
Yeah, it was a joke. I would assume that in reality he would be discussed by the murder of homeless people, as would most people. But people gotta be outraged at something, and Joe Rogan seems to really fuel the outrage machine.
Why would you care to clarify yourself to such a demographic, though?
Let them take things literally and then they can foock off & listen to someone else who caters to them and you now have an audience with a higher average IQ..
@@Tazandd you don't know if they saw a 30 second clop online that being said that joke was bad
Here’s why I don’t like the term “unhoused”. Homelessness isn’t comfortable, and I think it doesn’t need to have a comfortable name.
As someone who is, it isn't. I miss having an apartment
I like how they just completely ignore what Rogan says. He literally says they don’t do anything about the killings and violent crime which is exactly what the people criticizing him are saying. They’re disagreeing with someone who agrees with them. That’s what happens when you only hear the 1 liner and not the follow up.
Yea ngl after listening to a few of his podcasts while his sarcasm or joking ideas sound like he's being serious if you listen to the whole thing and get the context you get he's not being serious his bring to light a fault/injustice that high ranking law makers made as fair. Even in this I get he's joking and the joke was fair suggesting a way to solve an outrageous problem with an even more ridiculous solution thus the point of his joke. But ngl humour will get very boring and even tedious if at the end of every joke a person had to read out a statement like this comment to address and explain the joke, humour and context for the people who didn't see/listen to the full context or didn't pick up on the social ques to sense the comment was indeed to be comedic.
I like that they take Joe serious when he's making a joke but they don't mention how he praised Austin for actually housing homeless people rather than shuffling their camps around the city.
This is why nothing in the city I was raised in and live in will not change. These leaders don't talk about the problems. They think criticism is bad.
@@danielmelgar8918 They're more worried about their 'online presence' and 'gotcha' bullshit than actually doing their job. What does it matter to them? They get paid and enjoy their benefits either way, so why work hard ya know?
As a teacher in Florida, I'm fully expecting to get Covid for the 3rd time this coming school year. Not for lack of trying to avoid it, I'm fully vaxxed and boosted, mask up and sanitize often, but there is only so much I can do on my own part to avoid it. It's funny, we have a teacher and substitute shortage in Florida right now and yet the governor seems comfortable enough to have teachers go on leave do to contracting the virus, leaving the schools further understaffed. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are leaving (along with lack of support, poor pay, mental-emotional distress, etc.)
I wanted to be a history teacher for the longest time. Not anymore. Why would I? So I can be called a grommer, abused by the DoE and parents and told that it's my obligation to arm myself so some dipshit that bought an assault rifle from a Walmart same day won't shoot up the school? Pass. I'll just stick with working security
Being “fully vaxxed and boosted, masked up and sanitizing often” have absolutely nothing to do with your ability to catch OR spread the virus.
I am so lucky I haven't gotten it, boosted vaxed, still masked everywhere even though I only "need" it at work. If we're being honest I may never stop masking... its so much easier to mouth "Fuck you" to some one if they can't see your face and I get to drop the customer service smile so part of my face feels relaxed. but I'm stuck taking extra shifts because two of the cooks (breakfast and prep) both popped positive that same day... which also means twice a week testing is back
You are paranoid my friend. Seek help @@thegayhare
@@kyle-mb1ij taking safety procedures to protect yourself from danger could sometimes be called paranoid, but not when there is actually something out to get you.
I have to say that joe rogan’s take is hella tone deaf. I don’t think he was honestly advocating for the murder of the homeless. However he shouldn’t be laughing at that to the response of “I like your idea”.
You evidently don’t get how comedians talk to each other. It’s not 60 minutes ffs 😂
@@TrequartistaFM
You could have put in effort to spell "ffs" out because I don't know what that means.
Plus, it's Joe Rogan saying things that are getting him in trouble.
What else is new?
Love how they missed the point that the gov would practically ignore it if you shot the homeless. Because of how much people are already getting away with.
From Florida and I have to say that DeSantis is the worst thing for Florida. I agree with very few things with his. Most of his stuff has had us scratching our heads and honestly I fear for Florida and possibly the US if he ends up running for president
Same. We just keep getting these awful fucking governors. It makes me so tired.
I forget which comedian made the joke, but someone within the stand-up community made a joke saying how they want the "Wall" to be extended to exclude Florida, and [we] would just airdrop supplies in while keeping Florida Man out.
Y'all better vote for the other contender just to oust him lol
Vote out #DeathSantis
But according to Ben Shapiro:
"won't those people just move?"
So come on, are we really not going to blame the people who just chose not to sell their house and move when the wildfire showed up?
this is sarcasm btw. Not the ben shapiro bit though. He has really said that about people dealing with the effects of climate change.
He's a man that likes to be verbally abused by college kids lol, people elevate him up way too much considering the work he actually does x)
Yes they are going to move . They’re gonna sell their houses to Aquaman
Im gonna go watch that video again 🤣
Tbh the joe Rogan bit was obviously a joke- a bad joke but he wasn’t serious. Ppl are crazy enough to take him serious tho
Yeah, it was clearly to make a point about how bad LAPD is, not a call to action on homeless hunting
While I agree that Rogan didn't actually mean he thinks people should go around slaughtering unhoused people, I do think it was incredibly irresponsible to say.
Throw-away joke or not, there have been so many mass shootings recently and, as mentioned, a leap in violence against unhoused people.
Celebrities and public figures are not responsible for the actions of their fans, but they are responsible for their own words and actions. You never know how someone will react to what they see or hear, and it's important to keep that in mind when discussing such topics.
Again, it was obviously just a joke to emphasize how ridiculous law enforcement is and I don't believe he was being malicious. I just think he needs to be more aware of the potential harm such comments have.
I work at a public housing authority in Sac, a couple hours from LA, and once a month one of my clients is reported dead, usually under suspicious circumstances. I don’t think Joe Rogan was being serious, but it still upset me because what he said either had no effect, or made the problem worse, my 2cents
it was a dumb fucking joke, who even cares? You think his listeners heard that joke and thought "oh man hes right lets kill all homeless people!"? The only reason you even heard about it is because it's being "reported" on.
DC: "13% of the accounts were fake."
Marvel: "First time?"
What are you on about?! 💀
What’s this in reference to?
Snyders cut
Tbh a lot of this us certin media outlets crying that they wernt able to control the narrative and fans won.
Same with the Joker movie they prayed it would fail and it didnt.
Its sad now they just cant take the L and move on but are desperate to gas light any movement that pushed for this movie as 'toxic' while the majority of the time the toxcity cames from the media to fuel clicks and Ad scense.
I live in Florida and have never really given a damn about politics up until Trump became president, and then even more so when Covid started to hit and politicians in my area consistently let me and others down. After that, I worked to become more informed before voting, even in the little things like votes for my "small" city, and my god do I want DeSantis out, and I've wanted him out since essentially his first comments about Covid and the pandemic.
Even right now from googling DeSantis's name to find the correct capitalization, I'm disappointed in seeing his name up against Trump's. I think I need to really save up money to move to a different country at this rate...
I’m curious how the majority Floridian really think about DeSantis because here in Texas, it is either trump or DeSantis for president.
@@ryanvboy the majority of us hate him, but of course that is not the narrative his team will push.
@@ryanvboy With the way the district lines were jerry rigged it will always be a vote for republicans. At the moment DeSantis is hoping to run for the senate.
@@JRiley813 Yeah that's false. Sorry majority of Floridians love him. Last time I checked people are leaving California and coming to Florida.
If Florida was such a bad place then explain the move? If you dislike Florida that much then simply leave the state, there's 49 other states to choose from. Go live in the place that best fits you instead of bullshitting.
Already news articles coming up about how Covid lockdowns have taken major tolls on children and its "worst than expected" Florida was on lockdown for 2 months and we reopened. We didn't have any problem, lots of "cases" not lots of deaths.
California & New York fare worse and they did complete shutdowns for almost a year.
Please move. If you seriously believe DeSantis is bad then please leave Florida. He legitimately saved our economy, the death rate was better than New York & California yet we have the 2nd oldest population by state. Clearly, you are focused too much on CNN bs than actually thinking for yourself. Plane tickets cost $200 you can simply leave the state and move to one that represents your values. California, New York, Etc. Why live in a state that you dislike when its very easy to move.
A "pro-life" Republican not helping babies stay safe after their born?
I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
I feel bad for the youths of today
They don't know it yet but their world will burn because of what the political mayhem that has rained down upon the world and lack of care for the planet. No kid even wants to join the military or any kind of service anymore. It's done.
We reached that point where there is likely no turnaround.
Be seeing you
Wow! Children aren't waiting with bated breath to act as cannon fodder for interests that will never benefit them. I can't imagine why.
The Rolling Stone article read like a hit piece to me. I didn't buy into the conspiracy stuff regarding WB execs battling daddy AT&T until I read the first half of that article. It was too biased so I couldn't keep going. Bots or not, Snyder's version of Justice League was, hands down, a better movie than the Theatrical cut and I'm glad it was released.
Also the they have been using the term ‘bot’ years ago as sense of insult towards the fandom. And then they use that to run an article and use the word ‘bot’ and think no one would fall for them being sneaky.
It's obviously a hit piece. Why would they do this story years later?
From their track record I don't think rolling stone should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to behaving ethically.
It's clearly going to be biased, but that doesn't make it unfounded. It was people's point of view other than Zach Snyder. The bots to me is interesting, but not a huge deal (13% is more than typical numbers, but there's still an 87% legitimate interest seen). The real story is that Snyder may have used his power and influence to give backlash onto the producers and Joss Whedon. As of now, we don't know if this is all true, but it's a well researched piece that may have brought to light someone seriously abusing their power.
@@WaffleEBay12 no it wasn’t because the article included that same story WB has tried to spin that Zach manipulated Ray into speaking out DESPITE THE FACT numerous other stars spoke out against Whedon as well and supported Fisher even when they had nothing to gain from it but all worked on Whedons productions. That immediately made the bias and claims evident because they’ve been spinning that story for years. Also… why now? Most of this was said to have happened during the onset of things so why was none of this mentioned until just now?
Edit: also, WB’s followers on Twitter are 33% fake so like… bots are the norm for any type of bigger accounts that doesn’t make the movement or interest fake.
@@WaffleEBay12 I'm definitely not trying to start internet drama. I'm too old for that. But since the nuances involved in an IRL conversation are hard to capture in the comment section, I hope you understand that I'm not trying to disrespect you or your opinion in my reply.
Firstly to address the "obviously biased" comment: I'm not subscribed to Rolling Stone so I don't know it for a fact, but I think their writers consider themselves journalists. From many other articles I've read from multiple publications, I'm of the opinion that journalists can write their articles without bias if they so choose. I started reading the article and was extremely disappointed that the writer didn't label it as an opinion piece or leave their bias out of it so the reader could draw their own conclusion. It instead started reading like a persuasive essay on why Zack Snyder is bad and Warner Bros is so cool and this one director bullied a multi-billion dollar corporation... That's what it felt like, idk, I did not and will not read the rest of the article.
Which leads to my second point: founded or not, I don't think it matters. As you say 87% of the accounts were real so even if ZS used bots and those allegations are founded, the question becomes do the ends justify the means? Whedon deserves no mercy. Johns and Berg helped make the Theatrical cut and made no contributions to Snyder's version. Them not being removed from the credits is disrespectful and disgraceful in my opinion. So it wouldn't bother me if anyone used "bots" to fix an error.
And lastly, although I already touched on it, is the power dynamic opinion you shared. Zack has minions. Warner has money. So what happens when these 2 forces are put in opposition to each other? I think the answer lies in the article itself. Zack asked for something from Warner and didn't get it. His fans, the people and maybe the boys, the people were then weaponized against them. Warner Media has money and publishes articles like this because they know when people unite their voices, they are heard. Zack couldn't get it done by himself. His followers amplified his voice. Now Warner wants to put out a hit piece like this to get their minions to argue with Zack's minions. Meanwhile, every media outlet runs with the story and the people forget that Ezra Miller has been doing all of this crazy stuff, Amber Heard (we all saw what happened so I won't even say more), etc. And maybe with enough distractions or press, all of the money they spent on Aquaman 2 and the Flash movie won't be wasted. Basically Zack weaponizing bots is not as egregious as multi-billion dollar corporations weaponizing the media to villify people who defy them.
I don't know you or what you've seen or read or heard or know. Maybe you know something I don't and I would appreciate it if you shared that knowledge. I hope I didn't misunderstand or mischaracterize your opinion. Also again, I hope my reply doesn't offend you, as I meant no disrespect. I just happen to disagree with what I thought you said. Have a pleasant day
Am I missing something? He wasn't saying to shoot homeless people. He's saying that there's so much violent/gun crime going unpunished, that you'd sooner get away with shooting a homeless person than anything else.
Is it slightly insensitive? Sure, but it's not a literal call to arms, it's a joke about the absurdity of a different situation.
People love to get outraged at anything he says
That’s not what he said tho, he said it would be easier to just go and shoot them
Right but people have little baby brains and can’t distinguish a point from what people say anymore. You have to choose your words carefully because the woke chooses to not understand human language properly.
As a big fan of comics (especially DC) I don’t think it matters too much how we got the Snyder cut or if Snyder had boys loaded up. At the end of the day it was a fantastic movie, and made me proud to be a DC fan.
My take on Florida story: we know this iteration of conservative politics is so intellectually dishonest and hypocritical but it doesn’t make it any less maddening. Why is Desantis preventing parents from making decisions about their own families? The very thing he screamed about for a whole year with mask policies
Because it doesn’t help his culture war
I swear every time that man’s name is spoken on this show he’s doing something to make the lives of his people worse. As if Florida needs that shit with the uphill battle they already face just living there.
The actual argument for the HB 1557 (Don't say gay bill) was that parents should be the ones to make decisions for their kids, not school/govts.
So...that was a lie lol
The cruelty is the point.
@@gzsprout You're free to make any decision that the christian taliban agrees with.
As a person living in Florida, we need to do something about this. No one in this state wants the people to be safe, not even the people. Please be sure to get involved in local elections! It’s the midterms this year and we need people that will actually serve and protect their people. Let’s get these terrible people out of office!
Yes!! Vote out #DeathSantis!!!!
Yea this way we can be just like California. Ron for president
I don’t think Joe Rogan was actually calling for physical harm to come to unhoused or displaced individuals, but it’s irresponsible to say something that could be construed as a call for violence towards the homeless on a platform as large as his. I have a feeling that people aren’t upset because they thought Rogan was being literal, but because this population is already at-risk & cannot take any uptick in violent crime because of Joe Rogan’s antics.
Exactly
People who are that for out of reality don't need Rogan to give them the ok before doing something horrendous.
If Joe Rogan's "antics" actually cause an uptick in violent crime against homeless people I'll eat my hat. There are several ways everyone could be helping homeless people, and canceling Rogan is not one of them.
@@RENEG4DE4NGEL I would certainly hope it doesn’t lead to an uptick in violence against homeless people.
@@Kool212 that’s true, but Rogan certainly could give them an idea. I think that’s what is making people upset about this story
My problem with Rogan in this case isn't even with that "joke." Honestly, it's pretty clear he isn't telling people to go kill homeless people, but you can see his underlying contempt for them in the rest of that segment and, by spreading that hatred, he's contributing to the violence unhoused people face
And yet has had people on the podcast giving their ideas to handle the problem, which has given them a huge platform to express those ideas…
I just came back from a trip to Florida with my friends a few days ago and 5 out of the 7 of us tested positive, 4 of them tested positive for the new variant as well. Thanks DeSantis.
Wishing you all the quickest recovery possible ❤️❤️
Going on a trip to a place with less strict covid restrictions than where you’re from then blaming the governor for getting covid is weird. Did y’all wear masks, socially distance, stay out of crowded places, blah blah blah? DeSantis is a fuckin idiot, but cmon. You knew and decided to take the risk anyways.
So, why'd you go?
@@alex-qd6of we're all vaccinated, no biggie. everyone in the group takes covid seriously so everyone who tested positive is quarantining
We are in Miami fl, and my entire family is recovering from COVID, I’m assuming from that new variant, and it was the sickest we have ever been, it was brutal even fully vaccinated and boosted, I can’t imagine if we weren’t vaccinated. Over two years we managed to avoid this thing, we all stayed home, worked from home, had everything delivered, no contact with family, wore masks everywhere, because I’m disabled and in bad health and am vulnerable, and even we got it, so I’m assuming everyone will be getting this one eventually, especially those no longer taking precautions. All I can say is I’m grateful to have survived this thing, it got really dark at one point and I almost called the ambulance, but I managed to get through it and survive this thing, but I urge u all to take this seriously, it’s awful even if u survive, and even though we are all now testing negative, none of us are feeling back to normal, we all were left with residual symptoms. All I can say is please take care everyone, be careful and protect yourselves, especially if u are here in FL were no one takes it seriously, stay home if u can, and if u can’t, please be careful, wear a mask and get the vaccine if u haven’t yet, or get boosted if u have…..Good luck to everyone 💕
Glad you are on your way back to regular.
As someone from one of those "communist" countries with socialized healthcare this is why we all say "Fuck American healthcare", no-one should have to debate with themselves whether to call an ambulance and get themselves admitted to hospital!
@@pintpullinggeek As an American I agree with u 100%, fuck American healthcare 😝🖕🏼 I don’t even care what we want to call these systems, democracy, communism, socialism, who cares? The point is everyone should have access to health care, period, no matter where u are in the world. There should be things that are just a right, like the right to get medical care and not die, the right to get an education so u can get a job or learn a skill and feed yourself, a right to mental health care so u can pursue happiness, a roof to keep out the cold and rain and a bed to sleep in at night, and food for yourself and your children, in such wealthy western countries, no one should go hungry, and we should be helping our fellow man as well, those countries that don’t have abundance, these should just be inherently human things that we should all have the right to, whatever everyone wants to do after that to pursue wealth or power, and whatever u want to call it, I could care less, but everyone should have at least a chance, with the abundance of wealth just the top 1% of people in the world hoard, we could make these changes, and those people would STILL be wealthier than the rest of us, I don’t understand the greed, and the need to not just always have more, but to make certain others always have less, there always needs to be a lower class to exploit, and the saddest part of all is knowing that even if we implemented all the changes I mentioned, there would still be a lower class to exploit but they still choose, and even fight, to keep the poorest people as down as they can 🥺 It’s disheartening, and disgusting, the very worst of human nature, and there is so much selfishness in world, it breaks my heart 💔
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Yeah, I dodged them all except this last one as well, and I got it from FL actually, when we went to Universal.... And the pisser is, I didn't even want to go!
I feel so helpless about the climate issue, I vote for people who promise to fight for the environment, I do what I know to do to decrease plastic waste and keep my environment clean. But it doesn't feel like it matters when the rich are the ones doing the most damage and they won't stop.
It won’t get better. We tend to focus on ourselves here in the US. But the amount of plastic and styrofoam waste from underdeveloped nations in Africa or the Middle East is clogging up the oceans way more than you’d think. Its not just because of the super rich, people in poor countries have bigger priorities and they do not care about their impact on the earth. A lot of African and Asian countries are just now starting to escape poverty because of using fossil fuels. You really want to go tell those people to use green energy instead and get rid of all these new jobs in their economy? My point is it doesn’t matter who you vote for, the ball is rolling all over the world.
In Iraq, everyone eats lunch on styrofoam clamshell plates and they just throw them into the fields after. The size of the miles and miles of waste would blow your mind.
Your literally making life harder for yourself and those around you in a futile attempt to offset the massive damage multinational companies make... environmentalism is dumb
The rich aren't doing the most damage they're literally only 1% of the population, Asia is to blame for the vast majority of climate issues. Acting as if anything people in the west could do will fix this is absolutely asinine. Until India and China get on board with reducing pollution nothing will change. You sound very disconnected from our global reality.
@@electriccarpet4 that's very sad I didn't think about that.
as a Floridian, it astonishes me how much people here love desantis. He has repeatedly failed to achieve almost everything he has set out to do and yet people here worship him purely because he was super lenient on covid. The craziest thing is that it’s all the older folks that really go crazy about him, when it’s their lives that are in the most danger.
Having just moved here (FL) I don't get it either. All I've seen him do is pick fights with private corporations and make multiple attacks against anyone who doesn't tow his Christian Conservative views.
He's an idiot. His constituents are dying off. His days are numbered.
As a Floridian, this situation with kid vaccinations for Covid is another example of how hypocritical DeSantis has become this year especially.
Seeing how the new vaccinations are not thoroughly tested (there hasn't been long term effects study) and that the newest strains of covid are vaccine resistant and not as dangerous, do you honestly think its worth injecting in your kid? Before you call me antivax, I have been vaccinated.
Why would you vaccine a kid?
@@JackCarsonite idk - to protect them just like all the other vaccinations that are recommended for kids from birth to adulthood…
And my original comment wasn’t about vaccination practices for kids.- it was about hypocrisy on DeSantis’ agenda
DeSantis consistently proves himself to be an autocratic monster and I have no concept of why he’s so popular.
Florida is floundering and people think he’s amazing.
No idea, I had a guy who isn't politically informed say he liked him because he's not really a republican or Democrat as if he's somehow transcended the defects of those parties. But clearly his bigotry and heinousness is apparent if you pay attention. So either they like that he's callous or don't actually pay attention to anything he says
What state you from
You say that desantis is a autocratic monster yet everyone praises Newsom who has destroyed his own state. Who is very hypocritical mind you while dining with his interest groups while everyone suffers from his rule of decree. Or even my governor of my state who literally lied and had the nursing home incident.
He was one of the few politicians that didn't bow to the COVID hysteria, and kept the state open for business.
Also, when it comes for a lot of other conservative priorities, he's one of the only governors whose actually willing to take action rather than just give lip service.
It's no wonder he's so popular.
From the outside, he seems to embody Florida perfectly...total Chad lol
I think any major authority who denies access to vaccines should (in some way) be held responsible for every single case of somebody catching COVID or people dying due to COVID.
Same about other subjects :/
Love that Phil magically appears in his studio when the sponsor starts
A shill's gotta shill.
Watch that become a t-shirt now lol. And watch the lowest denomination of subhuman buy it.
It's so funny how Tommy was sitting right next to Rogan when he made that joke about the homeless and even encouraged it, yet nobody dogged him for it. It's all about the clicks, nobody actually cares.
ABSOLUTELY 💯
Yeah, he clearly wasn't actually saying to commit murder. Yeah, he was clearly making a point about violent crime. But it was insensitive. I don't think anyone sane is really saying he is calling for literal violence. Its annoying that it's put into a binary like that. He is making a point AND he was still wrong for being insensitive to a vulnerable and often dehumanizing catagory of people.
Los Angeles would definitely arrest you if you tried to shoot a person
Yeah the backlash is weird, he's being sarcastic. It actually seems like he's talking about how crime is going unpunished, especially murder against the homeless.
I also wouldn't put it past an unhinged individual to think he was serious or was making complete sense
thank fuck for this comment but it's going to get so buried
Couldn't agree more
I spent a large portion of my childhood including probably 80% of high school homeless either in shelters or with friends or even on the streets.
I immediately recognized Rogan's comments as an observation about how rampant gun violence is in our country and how property is often valued over human life.
I can see how somebody can take it the wrong way as somebody who is personally faced the abuse and harassment that homeless people are so often confronted with.
But I think it takes a special sort of despicable person to hear his comments and to actually take it as a cue to go do violence to homeless people.
I also think that, in genera,l you can't constantly be worried about how those people are going to take your words or else you're never going to be able to say anything at all.
Some people have no media literacy at all and no matter how something is presented to them will go out of their way to take the wrong message from it.
Like it's important to be careful with your words, and Joe Rogan has had problems with that in the past but no matter what you do you can't 100% win.
Real human adults watched the first two seasons of The Boys and thought Homelander was the good guy.
Well said my friend! Happy to see you’re busting through your struggles and are so understanding at the same time! You inspire me 👌
I don't know. This conversation didn't start off with "how fucked up is the gun violence in Cali?" or "Man it's messed up that people value property over human lives." It started off with two rich as fuck comedians talking about how fucked up it was that unhoused people's property was protected by the law. As if someone owning a thing but not a home to put it in meant the mild inconvenience they made to people put their right to own things into the realm of the unreasonable. "Can you believe that's considered protected property?" Is not in contrast to "It's messed up that these people's lives are less valuable than their stuff", that comes well after Rogan rolls his fucking eyes at the idea that law might have some protections in it for unhoused people who might have lucked upon a dresser.
This started as a conversation about the disgust they hold for unhoused people being allowed to exist and own some small collection of personal objects in their presence, not as a criticism of the local laws not giving a shit about people. Hence why the comedian was so offended that you couldn't just take that shit from them or displace their homes.
@@ReiEmeraldTakedo wow, honestly couldn't have said it better myself. you should make something like this a general comment to make it more accessible to this audience.
@@christiangrant2931 Already did.
@@ReiEmeraldTakedo awesome, I honestly can't believe that more people didn't seem to care about the whole "homeless people should have no personal property rights" aspect of their conversation.
I'm in Florida. DiSantis continues to pander to a national audience at the expense of people in his state. Just another instance in a long line of this for us.
Anyone claiming Zach Snyder had anything to do with bots tipping the scales have probably never spoken to a DC fan… a claim of having a 3+ hour justice league movie just not being released would anger any of them, I PROMISE! 😂
For all we know, the fans themselves might have contributed to the bots
@@GamerSapss If anything, I would believe that. and only 13% is not crazy
99% of ppl won’t take Joe Rogan and Tom Segura’s joke as a dog whistle but not everyone will get the joke and you will definitely have that minority percentage that already has hate in their heart hear this and think it sounds like a good idea.
Nope.
Ya but Charles Manson decided to start a race war bc of the Beatles white album.
Neitzsche was one of the main inspirations for the nazi partys policy on eugenics. Are we blaming neitzsche for hitlers actions as well?
I get that Joe Rogan was being satirical, but let's consider for a moment the size of his audience and who his audience is. I'm not saying all of them, but if even just one or two take that as permission it's too many. I think it's highly irresponsible to say something like that in this day and age without a disclaimer.
After making fun of trump the other day, his audience may have changed a little bit 👀
Phil literally does not care he is pretty open about his hate for the homeless. He forgot where he came from
The disclaimer is "I am a comedian". People can read a book and misinterpret it to become murderous. Adolf hitler got a lot of his ideas from neitzsche. Its not neitzsches fault hitler used his ideologies as a green light to kill jews and black people. Just like its not joe rogans fault if some violent lunatic sees his comment as a green light to murder homeless people.
Such a silly argument.
Should joe rogan not be allowed to drink alcohol publicly because a small percentage of his large audience will inevitably will become alcoholics?
He’s just a human like everyone else. Stop trying to treat him as some superhuman
@@kyle-mb1ij Generally speaking, most humans do not host a podcast with an audience of millions.
People talk about about Joe Rogan because he brings views. Period. Joe is the most popular podcaster for a reason.
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I agree Rogan was clearly attempting to make a joke, but having met some of his fan boys I wouldn't be surprised if any of them would go "I know he's joking but that is a good idea" and then go do it.
Rogan fans arent crazy for the most part. If all it takes is hearing rogan joke about killing a homeless person then they probably wouldve done violent shit regardless.
"I know I'm wrong, but I'm going to make a strawman up so that I just happened to be wrong by chance."
I agree and Rogan fan boys are the same type of people to be Trumps “minions” as he says. So idk why he also has to make comments like that when his fans are intertwined
I feel like this is coming from a good place, but it's eerily similar to the arguments against violent video games
99% of people will understand they're not realistic or encouraging violence, but there's always fear that a bad actor will be encouraged or think "I know it's just a game, but that's a good idea."
I definitely agree with Phil in the Joe Rogan case. Like how TF don't y'all have any common sense? I'm not a Joe Rogan fan but even I can see he's making a point about how pathetic LA and their justice system is. He's not encouraging anyone to go shoot homeless people
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Its finally here
I live in Florida and just called my parents to make sure they are wearing masks. I cannot believe how terrible Florida has become. The Florida children vaccination shortage will mostly affect the poor which is infuriating.
Has always been you mean lol
Oh my God, he's not saying shoot homeless people, he's saying LA is lacking in reasonable law enforcement.
Joe Rogan whether the shooting the unhoused was intended to sound real or just trying to move on doesn't matter. He still obviously has a problem with the unhoused and it come through when he said that. Of course their property should be protected because it's the only property they have.
Lol no his only point is it’s ridiculous how you’re more likely to get arrested taking their property than shooting them
The thing is a normal person knows Joe Rogan is joking but he has a lot of unhinged fans who would take it seriously. I also like Phil's point about minimizing other bad things he says but then again homeless and the dangerous homeless people aren't taken seriously. That's joking about life.
He has an opinion about everything so you can pick and choose which one to get offended by
@@leivaandre his opinions are very inconsistent. It's not offence it's seeing an issue and saying why it can be dangerous.
@@inayah115 I don’t see how it’s dangerous when he’s getting people who have done literally nothing to help the homeless to talk about it like they have all the answers
@@leivaandre but a lot of people talking about it gave done work to help the homeless. It's harmful because there's already so much violence done towards the homeless already globally.
@@leivaandre the danger isn't people talking about it. It's the people who will internalise what he said and dehumanize or even harm homeless people. A lot of people brush off homeless people like they aren't people with thoughts and feelings. Most end up homeless due to things that aren't their fault such as being trafficked, abuse, seeking asylum, poverty etc.
I can't stand Joe Rogan and the fact that I have to defend him here... Is his comment on shooting homeless people not simply to point out how fucking broken the law is? "You can't move their stuff, but you can shoot them" seems like a pretty okay way to point out a glaring issue in laws
[EDIT] I'm glad the video went in this direction, too... Makes me feel a bit less gross
It think it's pretty lazy and thoughtless to make the joke though. Homeless ppl and gun violence are both serious issues. If you want to joke about them then don't punch down on one to talk about the other. He can say what he wants but at the end of the day it was a shitty unfunny joke by many. He could have made the comment without the joke...
This terrifies me. My nephew just turned 1 and for Desantis to prevent my sister from getting him protected angers me to no end. The older generation here just doesn’t understand the damage this governor is doing on all fronts. I think he wins re election
Uh oh lol
No joke, I'm willing to bet he gets elected as President. I hope I'm wrong, but I know better now.
@@gradyshmalady8284 - coming by to make same comment. If he gets the nomination and if the Republicans do well, then in 2025 the WHOLE UNITED STATES is about to become Florida.
@@gradyshmalady8284 He’s trying to become senator first but that’s not really consolation. I don’t know why so many people like him when he’s actually eliminating rights left and right.
@@queenannsrevenge100 2024 has the opportunity to be an interesting coin flip between becoming Florida via Ron DeSantis, or California via Gavin Newsome. Could make a great meme video with Johnny Cash's "Orange Blossom Special" as the soundtrack with quotes by both people interspliced.
I did not get the vibe that he actually wants to shoot homeless people.
He's making a point that violent crime isn't taken serious in California. And he's right.
respect but he definitely could have just said "the homeless face a lot of violence especially in LA/etc" and there wouldnt be the same public reaction of outrage
@Jessie wasn't really funny anyway. I don't know why people consider him a comedian, he kind of just says dumb stuff, which is sometimes unintentionally funny, but his jokes are kind of just him saying stuff.
But where does complaining about the people living out of their cars fit in to that joke? Seems like a strangely convoluted set up if the punchline was intended to be empathetic.
@Jessie if youre trying to make a real point about real violence, why should you be making it funny? it isn't funny, and he wouldnt get backlash if he didnt make it into a joke
@Jessie it clearly was not as useful as it was intended to be considering the public response. serious subjects should be taken seriously
With the first story, I have to admit that it does get difficult to strike a balance between empathy and frustration. I live in Philadelphia and I work in Center City(how we pronounce the word 'downtown) and what I see on a daily basis, particularly over the last few years, is genuinely heartbreaking. One thing I've always tried to avoid since I first started working in that area in 2004 was cynicism, like they deserve it, or being outright coldhearted. I refused to ignore another human being when they ask me if I have something to spare, either change or a cigarette, and I'll speak to them just as I speak to anyone else because they deserve to be acknowledged. That being said, the situation has become much more dangerous as desperation fuses with drug addiction and mental illness. The situation is really horrific in Kensington, North Philly, which has managed to go viral in recent years due to how much it resembles something out of a zombie apocalypse - particularly the 'sleeping' zombies found indoors in the game 'Dying Light 2.' Scores of people hunched over, dipping to the ground, from all races, all genders, and all ages. They often ride the subway into Center City and they ask for help, but they also tend to go ballistic and scream at pigeons, throw rocks at this or that shadow, torment and chase people, relieve themselves in the street, shoplift from any stores that don't have items locked behind glass, and so on. I used to give people a cigarette because I felt bad but now I feel like I give them a cigarette just so I don't get smacked or spit on. Our leaders spend so much time towing whatever line makes them popular, screaming about the dangers of society from the highest parapets of their upper class fortress. They speak to us from their home office. It's dangerous, they yell; something must be done, they shriek. They blame the pandemic; they blame inflation; they particularly blame the other side. It's those Republicans/Democrats; it's those Insurrectionists/Antifa. Our mayor recently took heat because he said, essentially, that he couldn't wait to step down from office so that he could relax and enjoy his life. I understand that mental health in this country is a travesty, and I do hope that Mister Mayor takes a mental stress day when he needs one, but I'm sorry sir, you have access to the best medicine that psychology has to offer. Get yourself medicated and do the job you were voted in to do. Rocky Balboa would never.
I also live in Philadelphia and recently I’ve started to trying to avoid any homeless person around due to how bad things have gotten in Kensington. You can’t tell which ones are the ones that are just in need and which ones aren’t anymore. Some are perfectly fine one second then outta nowhere start acting crazy like yelling at pigeons as you said. It’s gotta really sad but I gotta think about my safety and the ones I’m with first. Zombie apocalypse is a very accurate description of what you see there
@@kjl4983 Exactly. I was walking back to my office a week or so ago and there was a woman in the underground concourse that I'd seen for years. I think she has diabetes as her foot is horribly swollen. I noticed that she had a gaping wound on her leg, bleeding out onto the floor, and she was trying to hide/clean it with a napkin. I ran back into my office and bogarted some antibacterial wipes and gauze from our medicine cabinets and I offered them to her, telling her it might help prevent an infection. She just stared at me, smiling. I don't know if she even understood me, but she did take them and I haven't seen her since. In that moment, I genuinely cared and wanted to help. But then, not long after that, I saw two people who appeared damned strung out, standing on the corner of 17th and Market, berating each other and the people that walked by. I had a guy threaten me with a 'so anything I find on you I get to keep' at the Walnut-Locust subway turnstiles. I looked him dead in the eyes while he spoke to me and he backed off, laughing, and I laughed and shook my head like it was all a joke, but afterwards I was on the subway shaking like 'did that just happen?'
i haven't been around Kensington in about 10 years now and hearing all this makes me wonder how much this affects the volunteer work that happens there. :( There were some genuinely good souls there that were just in some unfortunate circumstances
Mental health in every country is a travesty. As a society we have only started taking mental health seriously in the last forty years. Don't pretend that other countries do mental health better though. They don't. Denmark is considered the happiest place on earth because the majority of their population is hopped up on dangerous anti-depressants.
I really don’t understand how anyone would think Rogan was actually being serious rather than making the point that it was ridiculous they were more likely to arrest you for trying to move a homeless person stuff than from trying to kill someone.
I didn't see how he dehumanized them, it's more like he's commenting on how they are already dehumanized despite having "protection".
The only reason people consistently take what Joe says, as literal, is because he has a huge name, and they know thousands of people are just waiting with baited breath, for the day Rogan can be canceled. They know that if they try to cancel Rogan, theyll get brownie points from his haters, and exposure from news outlets.
You cant be centrist these days, you say something reasonable and youre getting attacked by SJWs and Alt right idiots. Does anyone ACTUALLY have these one sided murder stats off the top of their head? Crazy times where everyone is trying to censor each other.
The idea that the police would investigate a homeless person being stolen from let alone murdered is hilarious. They barely even investigate car thefts where I'm from and we got a increase to the police budget last election cycle
What kind of APC did they buy with that boost lol?
While my opinion of Joe Rogan is so far through the floor he is still trying to dig through bed rock, what we heard was satire, and satire is wasted on the general population. The point of satire is to make fun of something because it is reprehensible and it is not to be celebrated. That said Rogan's attempt at satire is really lacking in clever sub text.
Yeah its free form conversation of course its not gonna be masterly crafted satire.
Philly D. Thank you for explaining the Joe Rogan thing to people. I can't believe you even needed to explain his point but clarification for the dense is important.
You are a really real person, thank you for your dedication and convictions.
Now I want an intro with Phil reading the COVID spiking headline and yelling “Nooooo!!” while a mask slowly covers his mouth. Really sums up how we’ll be feeling if shit gets bad again.