Integral of csc(x), without that trick!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @whiz8569
    @whiz8569 7 лет назад +278

    Yeah yeah, that's all well and good, but can he hold 2 pens in one hand?

    • @alxjones
      @alxjones 7 лет назад +31

      hes just redpen

  • @An-ht8so
    @An-ht8so 7 лет назад +136

    Damn those integral symbols are sexy

    • @Asmrnerd10
      @Asmrnerd10 7 лет назад +7

      why do you think the integral symbol look like a letter S for?

    • @kb7011
      @kb7011 7 лет назад +5

      ASMR CSGO The word "sum"

    • @Asmrnerd10
      @Asmrnerd10 7 лет назад +3

      it was a rhetorical question and kind of was a joke.

    • @wijdanebrouki3181
      @wijdanebrouki3181 6 лет назад

      LMAO 😂

  • @avananana
    @avananana 6 лет назад +59

    1:54 That face when you solve an integral after a few hours of hard work.
    This is, in fact, a great video, never really thought you could break it down this "easily". I've only solved this integral with some weird four-way-inception substitution a long time ago. Might give it another shot in a while actually.

    • @fatimamohammed731
      @fatimamohammed731 5 лет назад +1

      Haha! Same! Have to try again tomorrow. Took me an hour and couldn't remember partial fractions decomp 😖

    • @Walczyk
      @Walczyk 4 года назад

      no

  • @francis6888
    @francis6888 6 лет назад +14

    Because you get 1/(u^2-1) after the substitution, isn't that also the same as -1/(1-u^2) meaning the integral of csc x can also be written as -tanh^-1(cos x) + c?
    Just thought I'd point out an interesting relationship between the trig and the hyperbolic trig functions.

  • @bigmike6248
    @bigmike6248 7 лет назад +16

    o shit he ascended

  • @diego_fonseca
    @diego_fonseca 6 лет назад +8

    No hablo Inglés pero he entendido a la perfección, muchas gracias!

  • @soosexyithurts
    @soosexyithurts 7 лет назад +99

    That fella looks baked AF

    • @tory7467
      @tory7467 5 лет назад +5

      He's the last person on earth that i expect is a math teacher

  • @papajack2205
    @papajack2205 7 лет назад +18

    Where's Steve? I believe his name was Steve.

    • @papajack2205
      @papajack2205 7 лет назад +6

      But, great video anyway. Thank you

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +25

      Marian P. Gajda behind the camera lol

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +22

      Elda Afc I was literally behind the camera tho! Loll

  • @MrDaveblev
    @MrDaveblev 6 лет назад +5

    Use the power rule for logs on that last expression and you get ln ( sqrt( abs((cos x -1)/(cos x +1)))) which is the same as ln ( sqrt((1 - cos x)/(cos x +1))) which is = ln(tan(x/2)).
    A little easier on the eyes.

  • @craig7878
    @craig7878 Год назад

    Great video, been looking for something like this. I have a bigger expression sinxln(tanx))dx and I ended up with the integral of 1/sinx

  • @bonbonpony
    @bonbonpony 7 лет назад +5

    What happened to you? Weren't you Asian in previous videos? :q

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +4

      Bon Bon!!!!!!! It's you again!!!! Apple sauce!!!!!

    • @bonbonpony
      @bonbonpony 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah, it's me ;) Seems that you recognize me every time I visit your channel, but I can't remember why. Did I do something goofy here in the past? :)

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +2

      Don't' worry about it! Cheers!

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +1

      Btw, what are you?

    • @bonbonpony
      @bonbonpony 7 лет назад +2

      Oh, I'm just a pony from Equestria, visiting Human World and learning some of your stuff ;)
      Here's how I look in my entirety: goo . gl / LBS1WR
      BTW you can also see my Human friend, Sci Twi, somewhere around here in the comments ;)

  • @davidsojo7269
    @davidsojo7269 4 года назад +3

    Hi, thanks a lot for this video. I have one question though, when I solve the sum of the fractions, on the upper side I got -1

  • @djmacross
    @djmacross 7 лет назад +14

    Why don't they use a pin mic? Free hands is better

    • @yoavcarmel1245
      @yoavcarmel1245 7 лет назад +13

      because then he wont have the need to hold two pens in one hand and the whole concept of this channel will be lost you evil

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +6

      I am certainly more natural with the mic in my hand. Check out this old video then u will see the diff ruclips.net/video/aVDOvr6NNM4/видео.html

  • @phlaelogaming7071
    @phlaelogaming7071 3 года назад +1

    You look different in this video. You had a different hair cut here?

  • @leovolont
    @leovolont 4 года назад

    What are you even teaching this crap for, because your answer isn't in standard form. Teach the TRICK.

  • @joshsmit779
    @joshsmit779 7 лет назад +7

    You seem younger lately, and Aryan

  • @CDChester
    @CDChester 6 лет назад +2

    Stoned but smart #WOKE

  • @bulldawg4498
    @bulldawg4498 5 лет назад +1

    Good job, but now I have to look up the "cover up method" for partial fractions ... But dat OK ...

  • @anispro7436
    @anispro7436 7 лет назад

    you new this is #Biochemical rule this halp so mush in Integral of cos an sin an ton if you new Ruler of bioche you can do all integral #f(x)=F(cos(x).sin(x))

  • @dildobaggins2759
    @dildobaggins2759 4 года назад +1

    Dont know if its worth learning this way theres more to remember than the orginal method and its just a bit messy...

  • @howexistential
    @howexistential 7 лет назад +21

    Nice job, Chase! :-)

  • @neryzapana4036
    @neryzapana4036 7 лет назад +2

    good saludos desde
    UNTELS -LIMA -PERU

  • @TA16888
    @TA16888 Год назад

    Can't figure out how the presenter managed to do the partial fraction?

  • @yurio00
    @yurio00 5 лет назад +1

    No entendí ni shit lo que dijo pero ví tu pizarra y me mojé xd

  • @abrahamtadesse1752
    @abrahamtadesse1752 5 лет назад +1

    I've worked it and it came -ln|cotx+cscx|+c and I can show how it comes

  • @lukasbalaz9988
    @lukasbalaz9988 7 лет назад +2

    Hi, I have got a question: I dont quite understand how to deal with absolute values in calculus. I know they are there and they must be there but in your videos you often just magically get rid of them or you treat them like regular parentheses. For example now: ln (|u+1|) can be bigger than ln (|u-1|) so I think you should simplify the expression as ln(|u-1|/|u+1|) not ln(|(u-1)/(u+1)|). Or am I wrong ? I know integrals practically only from your videos, I dont have real background, so please correct me if I am wrong :) .. thanks

    • @polychats5990
      @polychats5990 7 лет назад

      Lukáš Baláž Since there is an absolute value on the top and the bottom of that expression, you know the result will be positive because +/+=+ so that's why he moved the absolute value bars outside. To be clear, you totally can leave the absolute bars around the top and bottom of the fraction, it's just that people tend to re write that in a different way because it simply looks better.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 5 лет назад +1

      Peter Chatain The better explanation is that the absolute value function is multiplicative, so if you have |a|*|b| or |a|/|b|, then you are canonically allowed to write |ab| and |a/b|.

  • @SlideRulePirate
    @SlideRulePirate 7 лет назад +3

    Slicker than snot.

  • @seegeeaye
    @seegeeaye 2 года назад

    1/sinx = 1/(2sin(x/2) cos(x/2) = 1/2((sec(1/x))^2/(tan^x/2).
    So we have the integral of d((tanx/2)/(tanx/2) = ln( (tan(x/2)) + C. We forget the "U business" and it makes simpler

  • @matchamitminze
    @matchamitminze 7 месяцев назад

    Since this method involves memorization in some way (either by knowing that the antiderivative involves a log, so you’ll want to get a form of du/u, or just by rote trial and error), you can always rewrite csc(x) = 1/sin(x) = sin(x)/sin^2(x) = sin(x)/(1 - cos^2(x)) and setting u = cos(x), du = -sin(x)dx. From there, you can use partial fractions and simple algebraic manipulation with trig identities to arrive at the same answer. :)

  • @ostdog9385
    @ostdog9385 7 лет назад +1

    You could move the one half to the inside of the log and that makes it tan(x/2)

  • @Miguel-xk5sl
    @Miguel-xk5sl 3 года назад

    chase been smoking that stanky dank ganja green

  • @cianmcgrath3051
    @cianmcgrath3051 2 года назад

    I used a different method. take u=cscx and use identities to rearrange equation in terms of u to -1/sqrt(u^2-1) and from there its easy to get -arcosh(cscx)

  • @ketofitforlife2917
    @ketofitforlife2917 4 года назад

    Lost me at your technique for PFD, I don't understand why you did that.

  • @d0rqu3
    @d0rqu3 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome, thanks

  • @jorgeapg
    @jorgeapg 2 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot brooo!

  • @intensiveadvancedmath5281
    @intensiveadvancedmath5281 4 года назад

    where is Blackpen Redpen?

  • @seifeldidi41
    @seifeldidi41 4 года назад

    After multiplying by sinx up and down can i change dx with dcosx and say that the answer is -tanh^-1(cosx) or is this a wrong approach?

  • @TheRedfire21
    @TheRedfire21 7 лет назад +1

    At 1:20 can you write the integral as (-1) (1/(1-u^2)) du put the constant (-1) outside the integral and substitute the integral for tanh^-1(u) ???

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +2

      Sebastian Cor that is correct!

    • @TheRedfire21
      @TheRedfire21 7 лет назад

      blackpenredpen thanks, I remebered that identity ftom one of your videos. Love your channel

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад

      Sebastian Cor yea! This works the same as integral of sec(x)

  • @poggy9635
    @poggy9635 6 лет назад

    THANKS

  • @energy-tunes
    @energy-tunes 2 года назад

    bro got a new skin

  • @kensonmalupande2424
    @kensonmalupande2424 2 года назад

    rather keep it up sir

  • @murtez22
    @murtez22 6 лет назад +1

    you could integrate du/1+u^2 directly since is equal arcsin(u) any way great job

    • @byisma99x65
      @byisma99x65 Год назад

      Where is the square in the dominstor

    • @iliillillilli2991
      @iliillillilli2991 Год назад

      no, the integral of du/1+u^2 is arctan(u), but nevertheless he had du/(u^2 - 1), which would use the inverse hyperbolic tangent instead since the sign is reversed.

  • @Drestanto
    @Drestanto 7 лет назад

    2:00
    Instead of pastial fraction decomposition, I like better to change 1/(u^2-1) into (1+u-u)/(1-u^2). It's also work, harder but trickier

  • @yeremiafrans9425
    @yeremiafrans9425 5 лет назад +1

    Chase SChidfar
    C SC
    csc

  • @GSHAPIROY
    @GSHAPIROY 5 лет назад +2

    0:17 'Reciprocate' means 'take the reciprocal'; so you didn't reciprocate csc, you just wrote it down as the reciprocal of sin.

  • @tannercypret3171
    @tannercypret3171 7 лет назад +1

    They make mics that can fit on your shirt...

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +1

      Tanner Cypret we record with a MacBook so that's why I used this USB mic.

    • @bonbonpony
      @bonbonpony 7 лет назад

      But do they look as cool as these? :q

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 7 лет назад +2

    Weierstrass substitution is also nice

  • @not_vinkami
    @not_vinkami 6 лет назад

    1:48 you should just write =-arctanh(u) and continue with that

  • @user-gk1yq6vg3c
    @user-gk1yq6vg3c 4 года назад

    oh that's really easy!

  • @MrRyanroberson1
    @MrRyanroberson1 7 лет назад

    using substitution, cant you say that for u=1/x, integral(u)=u^2/2 therefore integral(1/x)=1/(2x^2)?
    isn't this a problem with substitution? because not all powers of x integrate the same, and depend on how you treat them.

    • @aaronaltman139
      @aaronaltman139 7 лет назад +2

      You must not forget about the differential dx. So if you use a u-sub where u=1/x, then du =(-1/x^2)dx = (-u^2)dx, so dx = -du/(u^2). Plugging back into (1/x)dx we get u(-du/(u^2)) = (-1/u)du. In the end, nothing changed, so the substitution method is not applicable for the integral of 1/x

    • @aaronaltman139
      @aaronaltman139 7 лет назад

      Also if you differentiate what you're saying the answer is you don't get 1/x back

  • @Apple-sq4wr
    @Apple-sq4wr 2 года назад

    Я не говорю по-английски, но я все прекрасно понял, спасибо большое!

  • @kensonmalupande2424
    @kensonmalupande2424 2 года назад

    This is just a great explanation , keep it sir

  • @neloka4313
    @neloka4313 7 лет назад

    You forgot the constant in the two lines before the last one.

  • @jaredbeaufait5954
    @jaredbeaufait5954 6 лет назад

    Use weirstrass or multiply by (csc+cot)/same thing

    • @okgfwij
      @okgfwij 4 года назад

      Not at all the same thing. How do you know that you should multiply both sides by csc+cot? It works as a proof but not as science...

  • @chasemarangu
    @chasemarangu 7 лет назад +4

    At 0:00 I'm the other chase

  • @stydras3380
    @stydras3380 7 лет назад

    Would it be possible to pull the negative 1 out of the integral (after the u-sub) and get the negative inverse tangent of u out of it?

    • @stydras3380
      @stydras3380 7 лет назад

      nevermind... just noticed its 1/(1-u^2) instead of 1/(1+u^2)

    • @leahgreene5880
      @leahgreene5880 7 лет назад +1

      You could do something similar to that and go straight to negative inverse hyperbolic cotangent from 1/(1-u^2). It's not as easily understood as the ln function you get from partial fractions though.

    • @stydras3380
      @stydras3380 7 лет назад

      That`s really nice!! Do you know a website with a proof? I would really like to see it! Also thanks for your answer ^^

  • @Chiborino
    @Chiborino 7 лет назад

    Okay, I've been through a lot of math courses and I've never seen that "cover-up" method for PFD.

    • @tresslerdominick
      @tresslerdominick 7 лет назад

      Chiborino I learned it in Calc BC

    • @kamarinelson
      @kamarinelson 7 лет назад

      Me neither but it's just zeroing out 1 of the factors in the denominator at a time. In this example, (u-1) goes away when you plug in 1 leaving 1/(1+1) as the coefficient for that linear factor. Hope this helped of you didn't get it.

    • @ketofitforlife2917
      @ketofitforlife2917 4 года назад

      @@kamarinelson I don't like the method, it's more unintuitive than the original.

  • @markadams2979
    @markadams2979 2 года назад

    MAGNIFICENT

  • @lukandrate9866
    @lukandrate9866 3 года назад

    Weierstrass substitution makes it very easy

  • @rahemganim9888
    @rahemganim9888 6 лет назад

    THANKS

  • @rahemganim9888
    @rahemganim9888 6 лет назад

    شكررااا روعة ❤

  • @chrisschmidt7947
    @chrisschmidt7947 7 лет назад

    Clever.

  • @mr.coconut2310
    @mr.coconut2310 7 лет назад

    Nice vid, but please try not to write the solved answer on the board BEFORE you actually solve it, it seems to take away from the intuition of figuring the problem out.

  • @saucysalamis9894
    @saucysalamis9894 5 лет назад

    I'm late but could you take out the -1 and then do partial fractions with 1-u^2, and then take the -1 into the fi al logarithm?

  • @khiariyoussef6674
    @khiariyoussef6674 7 лет назад

    you can also use : sin(x)=2tan(x/2)/(1+tan(x/2)^2) after switching cos(x)=sin(pi/2-x)

  • @arthurfleck5826
    @arthurfleck5826 7 лет назад

    How does it result the 1/2?

  • @deeznuts-dq1fd
    @deeznuts-dq1fd 2 года назад

    But isn't doing partial fractions method as u did just a big too longer than than normal derivation

  • @alicaprincess2506
    @alicaprincess2506 7 лет назад

    Thanks.