We Toured The Restricted Parts of Heathrow Airport
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Many many thanks to all the team at Heathrow. And to their now-quite-tired security team. Sorry about getting the ██████ in shot. -- Tom
I do believe that days “XXXXX”
You do realize you're just inviting terrorist to kidnap the two people that are known to have seen the close-to-the-public parts of one of Europe's - and the Uk's - major airports, right?
AlucardNoir well at least it'll make a good video
It's okay tom when you type hunter2 all I see is ███████.
Its reminding you of the opening scene to the new charlie and the chocolate factory film.
"it was bloody boiling! it was like 25 degrees or something"
Most British phrase I've ever heard.
25°C that is^^ (just in case)
25 Celsius is still not hot at all. It’s 36 rn for me
@@mrboomward it's because of the humidity
For Americans, 25 degrees Celsius is 77 degrees Fahrenheit. Also known as room temperature in a building with shitty A/C.
Depending on how humid it is that can be quite hot.
9:24 My favourite bit is that whatever it is Tom said that Heathrow deemed too risky for broadcast was said on a public park bench.
There's a difference between, 'said in public once with almost no one even nearby' and 'broadcast to several hundred thousand curious souls on the internet.'
The baggage handling system at the airport here in Shetland is two blokes and a flatbed transit van.
2? They must have been training the new guy!
When I've been there the guy with the ping pong bats directs the aircraft, then gets the passengers off, then gets the bags off, and then refuels the tank!
Very similar at Hervey Bay Airport (Australia), we always have the same guy checking us in, handling our luggage, refueling the plane, and guiding it off 😂.
At Atlantic City International for Spirit Airlines there’s a small team of people, like 3, they use a conveyor thing that goes up into the baggage compartment and the guy at the end sorts it in the plane. They do still drop some bags tho :/
But there’s crews of this for like everything, I guess cuz regulations or something. 2-3 people doing some jobs like refueling or re-stocking the galley. Fun to watch while waiting the final hour for boarding.
I saw them! Sumburgh, right? pleasant little airport to fly from! and drive across the end of the runway!
Sounds pretty shet...
Wow, I love the [REDACTED]! It looks so much like [DATA EXPUNGED].
Reminds me of [REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS]
@@TylerFurrison you’re so wrong dude. How does it remind you of [DATA REMOVED FOR LEGAL REASONS]? It’s more like what you’d find at LAX, with its state of the art [404 ERROR].
No no, it’s more like [DATA CORRUPTED]
Doesn’t it also remind you of [MESSAGE TERMINATED]
reminds me of scp foundation tbh
9:23 Behind the music, Tom is listing all the security passcodes and usernames, as well as the phone numbers of all the staff.
that fast?
Wow, it got really foggy when you saw the Concorde. :-P
it wasn't fog it was smoke - it was on fire at the time
Gord Slater citation?
As he said, I guess you're only allowed to see the ass of it
@@Ekriirke It's funny, British Airways is so protective of their Concord, but yet Boeing's Museum of Flight in Seattle has had a few times where you could walk inside of one, which some people have filmed in the past.
This comment contains content from the secret services of British Airways, who has blocked it on classification grounds. Sorry about that :/
Matt and Tom: the UK's best team for stealth infiltration missions into secure areas including the JPL, Heathrow Airport and the Svalbard Global Seed Vault
JakeTheHammer Oh, that's one hell of an AU.
+1
I wanna read this.
and the sun one must not forget the sun (even though its artificial)
I know those two are on my apocalypse team as they know all the best secure facilities to hide in. Especially their seed vault knowledge.
London Gateway container port
I love how Tom switches into his "radio voice" when answering his phone and then straight back to his normal voice afterwards XD
it's around 11:20
11:30
Matt: I like planes
**plane flies through, destroying the park and everything**
"Hey, have you heard of the I Like Planes kid?"
Hassan Selim It’s a plain not a bomb
@@FrancescoBellringer you obviously haven't seen ASDFmovie
Ey look, it's the planes-gender guy
nyoooooom
I read this as “We torched the restricted part of Heathrow airport” and was very concerned
HAHA
I read your comment as "I read this as 'We touched the restricted parts of [...]'" and was slightly concerned.
clearly there was just a terrible monster lurking there; and they'd just had Tom and Matt incinerate it instead of risking their own folks
As an aviation geek this felt like when a friend is telling you about how something great happened to them and you simultaneously love them for telling you and hate them for getting to do it.
"Everything is automated, but there's still a human on the loop"
This is how the future should work.
More importantly, Tom did you return that call?
Its been 2 years, I guess we will never know
Its been 4 years, I guess we will never know
Its been 6 years, I guess we will never know
I saw “am I working safely?” On the back of the vests they were wearing, just as they stood filming over a runway. Grinning, of course. They were not working safely. They were not working.
That fluffy microphone I want to hug... it looks so soft!
I'm honestly surprised by how much they had to blur - and some of the things! For example the vehicle entrance/exit of the baggage building at the start, I've seen those up close and there's nothing special or security relevant about them that's visible from the outside.
Or that they had to censor the part where Tom was talking about the baggage storage on different days (?). What about that is so critical to security that you can't talk about it?
If someone knows more, I'd love to hear the reasons for it, but right now it seems to me that they're being overly protective with this information.
If someone is trying to insert an illegal object or bomb into the baggage system the security at entry and any storage information are parts of creating a model to attack with.
On a panic day, it seems logical that bags would be lesser screened to get the throughput up. None of the airports I have worked with do this, but they are not Heathrow.
im just wondering why the motor for the conveyor was blurred
It's likely networked, and as anything on a network can be an attack point, hidden to avoid showing exactly what it is in case someone manages to find and exploit a vulnerability in it. The future of IoT :)
They didn't even mention x-rays which is one of the most interesting bits, since they get screened in different sorts of x-rays depending on what each x-ray thinks of the contents, before being handed to a human to deal with it if something's fishy.
I don't know what Heathrow uses but a lot of airports will use a very special CT scanner sort of x-ray which will create a 3D image of the bag and can figure out the density of objects, and can even recognise certain things to be flagged. Very high tech stuff and I guess it's no surprise they couldn't talk about it.
Came to know what's behind the scenes of an airport, stayed for the redactions.
Matt is spot on it does remind you of the doors bit in Monsters Inc, and the final part of Toy Story 2, that takes place in a Airport and the conveyor belt section.
hmoham the storage section felt especially similar to monsters inc.
also I want to say a scene in polar express or something similar
I work at heathrow T5 as an engineer for the baggage system and its interesting to see another persons perspective on it..its all normal for me!
Any one else here a Conveyor belt enthusiast, apart from Matt ?
I really like the machine that tips packages into trolleys in Amazon LTN1
Oh yes, ever since Gladiators in the 90s.
KX36 YES. What a show, eh.
I've been in the baggage area of an airport too. Although the one I was in is much smaller. Bangor Maine International Airport.... Tiny thing. But still cool to have a free for all through the back area. (they were getting an addition made and wasnt in use yet)
I pick up boxes from a conveyor belt every night!
14:35 -- Actually, you can. In the "small" town of Oshkosh, Wisconsin, USA, there is an annual air show. They have a viewing area open to the public, and it's at about the same elevation as the ATC tower. It's not really worth going anytime other than the air show; at least not to view the airfield, because other than during the air show, it's not an active airport. However, during the air show, they say it becomes the busiest airport in the world, as thousands of "experimental" (home-built) aircraft are flying in and out.
If you want to see a Concorde up close, go to Duxford Air Museum. What's more, you can go inside!
Samuel Fitzgerald Yup, that's where I got to see Concorde up close. Was kinda surprised Matt hasn't been there.
I’ve done that at the Museum of Flight as well.
also Brooklands museum
The concorde was suprising small inside.
Bristol Aerospace museum has one too! Theirs is the last one to fly
"It can hardly be a coincidence that no language on earth has ever produced the expression, 'As pretty as an airport.'"
-Douglas Adams, "The Long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul", before writing about a character having a very bad day at the Heathrow airport.
Douglas Adams has clearly never seen the current Heathrow airport's baggage conveyer-belt system.
So was Matt working safely?
He was safely working
I worked as Airside Operations (the guys you describe as the 'Orange Flashy Vehicle') at a different airport supervising everything to do with the operations at the airport, doing the runway inspections etc etc.
After 5 years of 44+ hour weeks plus overtime I can tell you this.
That excitement of getting to drive on the runway and get so close to the aircraft never goes away! 😊😊😊
9:23 - Tom sings elevator music beautifully! That must have taken years to master, where did you take classes?
Also directly after - Matt, in New Zealand we call those an Igloo, like the ice-shaped-hutt. I work for a freighting company and recently built a "freight hub" in Christchurch.
We also use things called TCP, Totally Collapsible Pallet, which are metal and plastic containers which 10 can be broken down into one "TCP", and be rebuilt after transported. People actually graffiti these and we see the same artwork from time to time, they get damaged by forklifts and the plastic tends to warp after long-sun exposure, but the freight inside is generally stable.
Don't get me started on scanned systems and conveyer belts which scan barcodes for every item and redirects them. I live in a town that delivers 3,000 items a day, and we only have a population of 45,000. I've seen photos of the "freight hub" and it seems a marvel in human engineering to process ten (if not at least a hundred of) thousands of barcodes overnight.
These videos are so much fun and so refreshing. I miss the regularity of them. More park bench!
I love hearing how very large airports manage everything! I'm used to flying out of my small, local airport. It has ONE departure gate, and we get to walk across the tarmac to steps onto the plane ! 😅
Tom: "I couldn't find a good enough story about the baggage system itself"
Me: 5:00 I did not know conveyor belts could go around corners! What? How?
The shots that you *did* get to show were so cool -- it makes me wonder what amazingness we missed from the blurred shots!!
Matt & Tom, if you’re interested in automated systems like the baggage sorter, talk to Swisslog about filming the stuff they do. The automation they do in a warehouse may be on a much less impressive scale, but might have far less security concerns.
Anyway, thanks for this fascinating look behind the scenes.
I can totally understand you Matt, I like planes as well :D They are quite fascinating, especially the older or experimental ones
What would happen if you brought a spherical or fairly spherical luggage container? Would they stop it before it got to the conveyor belts or would it just keep rolling and mess up the whole conveyor belt system?
put it on a tray?
That would be quite funny - a giant ball rolling down the slopes like a giant marble run!
Maybe they´d transport it with the bulky/fragile luggage?
What about one of the motorised suitcases, program it to run wild in the baggage system
I was thinking at some point, what would happen if a piece of luggage suddenly got very sticky (to the point of sticking it down to the conveyor belts) at various points in the system? Fortunately there probably aren't many ways that can happen, so it would take a specific and well-planned act of malice to gum up the works like that.
You guys have done a lot of really cool airplane stuff recently and as a long time flight enthusiast, I'm loving every minute of it.
This was really fascinating!!
Why was the Concorde security sensitive? Was it blurred because it wasn't on Heathrow property?
Rob Burgess I think because they didn't have BA's permission to film it.
Rob Burgess don’t want anyone to nick Concorde I guess
Can anybody point the Concorde in Googlemaps? Nevermind =) Found it
Noah Riccardi I now that the picture of concorde in a disguise of another plane in my head.
I thinks its at 51.466909, -0.433140
Just yesterday I was INSIDE a Concorde! We have a technic museum here in Germany (in Sinsheim to be exact) which has a lot of old(-ish) planes on display that you can actually enter. They are standing high over the roofs of the museum and it is quite the experience. They also have a Tupolev Tu-144, which is basically the Russian version of the Concorde (and way cooler in my opinion ^^')
The Imperial War Museum Duxford also has a Concorde (the pre-production model) that you can walk through.
I have sat in the cockpit of a Concorde at The Intrepid Museum in New York City. It was awesome!
Same with the Fleet Air Arm museum in Yeovilton, Somerset (UK). In a hangar with many other planes but you can see all around, bash your head on the underside and get inside for a look too
Cool! And if you go 20 km east, you can visit a Buran ("soviet space shuttle") in the excelent technik museum Speyer
Michael Smith I used to go there with my dad, really good museum. Not to mention the airshow is one of the best in the country.
At one point during my working life, my bus journey took me around Heathrow every day. G-BOAB was one of the sights that made me smile on my commute. They eventually moved it, but I'm glad it's still there somewhere even if you had to blur it.
Would totally subscribe to the Matt Gray explains engineering systems channel.
I like how Matt unabashedly loves this stuff.
You should come to Aerospace Bristol. Its an amazing collection of aircraft throughout the years including Concorde. The best bit is you can go inside of Concorde and have a look around!
"Am I working safely?" on the security-vest the two were wearing whilst standing next to a runway with a plane barrelling past is very fitting!
I've been in the tower when Concorde took off. I've also talked one from Area Control to Heathrow Approach when I was in the industry :)
The moment Matt mentioned the baggage system I started singing Monty Python's "I'm So Worried" in my head
Rob Burgess I'm so worried about modern technology... I'm so worried about the things that they dump in the sea...
I'm so glad I'm not alone
I've been in an airport control tower! My dad works closely with air traffic controllers (and I believe he was one at some point), so I got to go to the control tower at Cardiff Airport once. It was pretty cool, although I was a bit too young to appreciate it (I was 11).
This reminds me of the time in school (for facilities management) when we organised a whole lot of excursions to local businesses. We got to see, among other things, a lot of the facilities of Vienna International Airport (though not quite like the tour you had in Heathrow), a trash-burning heat-power-plant and we went around the "Free Floating" roof (aka no pillars to block the view) of Austria's largest Stadium.
I appreciated your information about Heathrow airport not sponsoring. If there is one thing I dislike it is fake spontaneous 'collaborations' between business and people on RUclips. The way you explained the situation for this video gives a sense of integrity.
120 years ago there was no such thing as an aeroplane. Then within 50 years there was Heathrow. Such a rapid growth from nothing to one of the most complicated industries in history.
The moment when Scott takes out glasses and a notebook and says "I took notes" is so attractive to me. 😘 Enjoyable video for many more reasons, but this is what I chose to comment on. 😄 Love these occasional Park Bench episodes.
P.S. Matt's excitement was infectious; made me care about conveyor belts and luggage.
Great video - even if I kept expecting to see Wallace and Grommet to show up riding the conveyor belts.
That reminds of the time that islandic volcano grounded all flights in europe. My dad got my brother and me visitor identifications for munich airport and did a private tour - we were even able to sit in a pilots seat for a short time thanks to a nice maintenance guy - awesome memory
That heliograph, with notes about planes.
I've never hear that word before...
A heliograph is a...
Planes
I'm glad to see you've accepted that your videos are largely doomed to have the sounds of Heathrow flight traffic.
After Toy Story 2, I've always been wondering just how the baggage system works in airports. Thank you Matt, Tom, and Heathrow Airport for the video. I'm surprised you where able to show so much since I know airports as being extremely picky about security.
I worked at the Denver airport for a short time in an office right next to/under the "international large arrivals" gate, most mornings there would be a United 787 parked there, and most afternoons a British Airways 747. I haven't worked anywhere else where that was outside my office door.
did you guys see the slipstream statue?
i work for the company that built that, its nice looking but its basically just plywood skinned with aluminium, also one of my work mates dropped his glove inside it when they were putting it together on site.
Some day it's going to get broken open and somebody will see that glove and go "wtf??"
oh idk its still like, 50tonnes of hardware, its not really fragile :) that glove is there forever :D
any guidance (mins:secs) as to when its visible? ta =)
@@dshack4689 I dont think it's in this video tbh
Hi Matt or Tom, it's worth contacting "Manchester Runway Visitor Park," they have the BA flagship concorde (G-BOAG). I'd imagine that they would like the publicity as it's open to the public.
Better yet, get the Barbados Concorde Experience to pay to fly you down to Barbados to see Alpha Echo (G-BOAE). You can sit in it and pretend you really flew the Concorde, then go enjoy the island (and make videos about that, too).
Im stoked that Britain's busiest airport is back, I love shows like that. Now to get it in Canada.....
I've been in a couple of control towers and also an oceanic centre. It's pretty damn cool watching controllers do their job. It's almost like they're reading the newspaper on a sunday morning.
Mitchell Airport in Milwaukee, WI has a great little observation area right by the runway, if you want to enjoy takeoffs/landings from your car.
I would LOVE to have been part of designing that conveyer belt system.
i enjoyed my time working at british airways at heathrow it is so different now from when i worked there almost 20years ago now!
the engineering dept had similar ASRS (Automated Storage and Retrieval System) it used to break down a lot but riding it was fun as all get out when it did.
now i realise how cool it was with hindsight i took it for granted we had access like that as part of our day to day jobs
crap time flies
Very interesting. Thanks for this video.
The doors part in Monster Inc.! I was thinking the same ^^
The other scene he was referring to was the scene in toy story 2 where the final fight scene happened in an airport
Factorio meets Matt and Tom... 7/10, not enough conveyors, would Factorio again... at least the belts were Blue! :-)
There's not a lot of things I get jealous about, but I'm so jealous of you two it's unbelievable.
Yay. A new Matt and Tom video.
0:05 I didn't know they had park benches on the roof at Heathrow.
That 'end of runway planes landing over you' bit - I was in about that position (at Filton) for Concorde's last ever flight, and took what is possibly the last photo of it flying overhead, ever. That was fun!
My favourite bits of this video was the blurred bits and the funky music
And this be the last park bench.
There's a Concord you can walk around in Duxford Air Museum
There's also one in the Bristol Aerospace Museum. You can walk under, around and inside.
I’m going to duxford a bit later this year, shall I film it and upload?
I've been loads since it's close but I'm sure people would love to see! You can see it from a balcony, ground level and go round the inside
It’s only a prototype
I work in the restaurant on the airfield. Ill be waiting for you :)
As an aviation enthusiast and wouldbe future pilot, I'm super jealous of you guys!
Thank you for asking!
A plane spotters dream
"i like big engineering things" Matt must have loved the intrepid museum them that place is literary big engineering things on top a massive engineering thing.
I love how Tom had a notebook from this.... I'd be like Matt and just look around instead of writing things down to remember later. Which I always wish I'd have done in cool cases like this.
Brilliant. Love this.
3D factorio
Milton Jones: “Has anyone else tried that new sushi place at Heathrow Airport?
Huge portions, but they do all taste a bit ‘luggagey’”
Fabulous video guys. Reminds me of plane spotting on ye olde QE building. That was pre-terrorism.
The early bag storage area really reminds me of the Uni of Oxford's Book Storage Facility in Swindon (the logistics of which would also make an amazing video!)
All the planespotters are jelly as hell.
Well, at least the baggage handling facility is better lit than the one in Die Hard 2
As a lifelong aviation geek, I envy you two so much right now!
Imagine just wandering around london and seeing these two geeking out about a bagage sorter
05:57 The memories in Inside Out?
I hate when Heathrow censors your video
They tried this automated baggage system in Denver back in the mid 90s and it was an utter disaster and was abandoned. I'm glad someone finally made it work.
I did a similar tour at quite a large airport and we were in the tower. The people basically had a coffee meeting and did a bit air traffic control on the side, really unlike what any of us was expecting
Wow it's not been called itv 1 for many many years
"Am I working safely?"
awesome I'd love to film here for mine. i usually film full flights like 14 hours from Singapore to London
I worked for a while doing oddjobs, and one job was at some air-side workshops at Heathrow, so I got to drive a little electric buggy around parts of the airfield. Nowhere near moving planes, mind, but it was still awesome.
25 degrees is boiling ... that's when I break out the winter clothes.
you need winter clothes for over normal room temperature?^^
All that blurring screams of "security through obscurity" to me to be honest. There's nothing there that isn't already well known by the evil forces that want to abuse it.
Cadde better safe then sorry
Security by obscurity is still a layer of security. If you rely on obscurity as your only measure, you're doing it wrong. But they have lots of other security measures and obscurity is just one of the layers. A dedicated criminal would probably not be hindered by this and could do their own recon to figure out stuff, but if just a few decides that "eh, it's not worth it", the layer has fulfilled its purpose.
Of course it’s just security theater. Heathrow is trying to generate positive publicity and to that end having random videos with the odd Concorde and baggage handling doors blurred out helps convey the impression that they are “on top of security measures.” I don’t fault Matt and Tom, I’m confident they understand that it’s all just a game, but they want to keep getting opportunities to do “cool” things, so they aren’t going to call Heathrow out on it. In fact, if they thought about it at all I’ll wager that they decided that having random bits blurred out would make their video more popular, not less popular, that the blurring gives it the impression of really being behind the scenes with special access.
John Early Security theatre is still stops some people. Look at the TSA: Nobody’s tried to hijack anything probably because they know what a shitstorm would happen in the US if they did.
I'm sorry but no, i don't buy your counterarguments. Or do you trust Microsoft's products to be secure because there's an extra layer of obscurity?
Countless holes have been plugged in open source software for the very reason they've been publically visible.
Imagine if there's a red button there that reads "do not press, it will crash planes" but it's blurred?
It's easy for those interested to know about it to have that knowledge but hard for the people that should care the most about it to say "hey, how about we don't have such a button".
Or a simplified example... Die Hard 2. It may not be realistic in every sense... But it does touch on some interesting subjects.
In my country, we used to have all police comms on an open radio frequency without encryption. The frequency was "secret" and it was "illegal" to make equipment that could tune into it.
It didn't work!
I really enjoyed this. I haven't really thought that much about how large airports do things. I'm sure each one has differences, and now I'm curious about how some of the large airports in the U.S. do things.
Excellent shots of concorde.
I’ll watch just one more video until I’ll make my homework.
Is what I said 5 hours ago...
I said the same thing about doing my Msc project. If you're still studying 2 years later then don't worry, Matt and Tom will teach you enough to get by