Check it out, you can go to options , then select “reduced latency when monitoring” THEN set the audio output of the track you’re recording into to ext 1/2 or whatever your headphones or speakers are. This will bypass the audio stream and any latency on your master track or your project. When you’ve finished recording, simply change the track output back to “main” or “master”. Latency no more 🎉
The biggest problem for me is I make these big Productions and then proceed to add layers and layers of vocals in the same project, even though I have a really fast performing computer is just always that latency that's really rough so I'd always recommend people having a vocals project file where it's just one audio file of the instrumental so you can record with ease every time! Great video as always my man!
that wet reverb track monitoring + direct montiorying from interface is an insane hack! ive never thought about that, thats very usefull! gonna use that
Thank you! It’s definitely my top preferred workflow. I rarely need autotune in my headphones, and I only have my Apollo connected 50% of the time so that advanced setup is my secret sauce 😍👍
@@ReidStefanMusic yes i always use the monitoring from the focusrite 18i20 for no latency, and then i explain to the singer if we use the processing there will be a small latency, but using the reverb only literally gives the best of both worlds. No latency but with reverb
@@djcontouryes the stock reverb will be subject to whatever Daw latency you have. But in mixing terms we call that pre-delay and it’s a good thing on vocal reverbs. You can see me reduce the pre-delay on my stock reverb before recording to minimize delay reverb
another option i think works well is monitoring through something like superrack performer if you don't have an interface with dsp. you can load in any plugin as long as its vst3 and get something good enough to track with while input monitoring is set to off in ableton and still have all your effects on when you press play. i've used it for a few months now and it's one of the best investments i've made software wise.
The greatest thing about the studiolive series iii mixers is the outside dsp. 1176 compression, revers and delay sends for monitoring. Record dry but monitoring a nice wet signal helps
My version of your freeze all tracks is to export the instrumental as a wav file and have that in a separate session where I record all the vocals. When I’m done, Ableton makes it easy to pull those tracks back into the main session leaving vocal guides or failed experiment tracks behind. I do this for instrument recording as well when swapping out a midi instrument for the real thing.
yes! That's a great workflow suggestion! Ableton makes it extremely easy to merge 2 separate sessions together for your final mixdown! Now that M4 Max computers are ridiculously powerful I don't see myself bouncing or freezing ever again.
In Ableton 12 they added the option to disable the "Keep latency" button that is on underneath every track by default. For vocals this will prevent any nudging you had to previously do in any version of ableton before 12.
This is a great option for people who use the Basic Fix I mentioned first, however this option does nothing if you’re using the advanced or expensive solutions 🔥👍
Simply Follow these basic solution steps to fix midi latency. My advanced solution, and expensive interface won’t help MIDI latency, but the basic approach will
I agree Luna is still missing many modern features like a sampler instrument, swings for MIDI, shortcuts for editing or creating MIDI, audio playlist recording, audio pre-recording… but it’s still the best design & graphics of any free DAW
Hi Stefan, do you think it’s still worth buying the older generation of the Apollo? I’m looking to order an X8p, and I noticed there’s nearly a $1000 difference between the Gen 2 and Gen 1 models. What’s your take on it?
It's all good, but you still need to check if your recorded audio (no matter what are you recording - vocals or from synths) have a decay on 60-90ms and you have to drag your audio track on grid to the right position
Great and concise summary. In Ableton 12 the option Keep Latency should be unchecked when recording vocals or external acoustic or line in instruments. You'll find this option hidden in the Mixer.
This is a great option if you’re using the first workflow in my timestamps. However it won’t do anything in my advanced or expensive workflow suggestions
@ using other DAWs I’ve needed to manually nudge things left after every recoding. Ableton has always been correctly aligned for me. If I needed to test, I would probably record my metronome bleed from my headphones and zoom in to measure the difference.
@@ReidStefanMusic I'll probably verify this in a week or so. Not sure if it should depend on whether you're monitoring through your interface or not. It would make more sense for what's within Ableton's realm so to speak
Hi Reid!! Great Video!! 😊I’ve been subscribed to your channel for years now and really appreciate all your videos and all that I learned from them. So first of all I wanted to say thank you so very much for that. And looking forward to more great videos. I have one question and it’s the first time I’ve ever written to ask anything so thank you so much for taking the time in reading this. I have a Mac mini M2 and I also have the new Apollo Twin X Gen2. But I would like to get even less latency when recording vocals, even if it’s a small difference in milliseconds. So…. my question to you is, after watching this video, do you believe if I were to purchase the Mac mini M4 (Base Model or other), if I would even see a difference in even lower latency, even a little, than with my 16GB Mac mini M2 mainly and mostly when recording vocals over my temp-bounced “stereo” playback track in Logic, because I always record in a separate empty project, and not in the track production one with all the plug-ins and all the MIDI instruments, and if 16 GB versus 24 GB would have any effect or bearing also on having lower latency? Once again, thank you so much for taking the time to read this and I do hope very much to hear back from you soon. It would be a huge help to me to know your opinion on this. Thank you again! 🙏😊 Sincerely, - CALEB SHAW -
Awesome! Thank you so very much. And we are talking about the Base Model M4, not the Pro? In that regard, last concern/ confirmation… ?is it going to be better or make a difference to have the 24 GB RAM over the 16 GB RAM for better results latency-wise? Or will that not really matter in that regard?
@@CalebStayton Both M4 and M4 Max are faster than M2. I'd recommend Get M4 Max if possible. The power is ridiculous as we demonstrated in KARRA's recent studio session/Review here! ruclips.net/video/tatLRLjYehY/видео.htmlsi=Srzb3GKezRbcnMQm
EXCELLENT!!! 🙏😊 I’m going to definitely look into the M4 Max now. I have no more questions. You’ve been so kind to take the time and answer me. It is very much appreciated!! Thanks again Reid for everything!! Take Care and God Bless!! 🙏😊 Sincerely, - CALEB SHAW -
Hi, I use the last method and often find I cannot get enough signal into Ableton. No matter how much I crank everything in console the wave form into the DAW is tiny. Any thoughts?
@@tadpringle3148here’s my full length console tutorial for recording vocals and setting perfect levels 🔥 ruclips.net/video/WSehBr-W-WE/видео.htmlsi=T8zjXJ06kTOvs_Sk
This definitely helps if you're using the basic workflow in my timestamps. However it does nothing if you're using the Advanced or Expensive workflows I explained
When you use the advanced or expensive approach for latency it doesn’t matter how good your DAW or computer are. I never do the basic approach even tho it’s very popular
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Check it out, you can go to options , then select “reduced latency when monitoring” THEN set the audio output of the track you’re recording into to ext 1/2 or whatever your headphones or speakers are. This will bypass the audio stream and any latency on your master track or your project. When you’ve finished recording, simply change the track output back to “main” or “master”. Latency no more 🎉
This is a great tip for people who use the Basic workflow. I usually use the Advanced or expensive workflow 👍
Second 'advanced' workflow, great idea! Can't wait to try it. Thanks Reid, still the coolest puppet in the game.
Coffee usually helps my latency. ☕
The biggest problem for me is I make these big Productions and then proceed to add layers and layers of vocals in the same project, even though I have a really fast performing computer is just always that latency that's really rough so I'd always recommend people having a vocals project file where it's just one audio file of the instrumental so you can record with ease every time! Great video as always my man!
Sounds like the 2nd or 3rd workflow in this tutorial would be the best choice for your setup 👍
that wet reverb track monitoring + direct montiorying from interface is an insane hack! ive never thought about that, thats very usefull! gonna use that
Thank you! It’s definitely my top preferred workflow. I rarely need autotune in my headphones, and I only have my Apollo connected 50% of the time so that advanced setup is my secret sauce 😍👍
@@ReidStefanMusic yes i always use the monitoring from the focusrite 18i20 for no latency, and then i explain to the singer if we use the processing there will be a small latency, but using the reverb only literally gives the best of both worlds. No latency but with reverb
If you have latency, wouldn’t the reverb still have it since it’s not directly monitored? I watched it 100 times trying figure it out haha
@@djcontouryes the stock reverb will be subject to whatever Daw latency you have. But in mixing terms we call that pre-delay and it’s a good thing on vocal reverbs. You can see me reduce the pre-delay on my stock reverb before recording to minimize delay reverb
@ ahhh I must have missed that part somehow. That’s makes much more sense! Thanks for the clarification
Latency will always be my biggest opp 🙅🏻♀️🚫🚫🚫
FACTS!
Karra I do not love latency 😮
that is real good solucion even for live situations! thank you!
All three of these workflows would work great for a singer on stage 🔥
It's production time!!!!!! ♥
Low Latency Production Time 🔥
i love this puppet with all of my heart
another option i think works well is monitoring through something like superrack performer if you don't have an interface with dsp. you can load in any plugin as long as its vst3 and get something good enough to track with while input monitoring is set to off in ableton and still have all your effects on when you press play. i've used it for a few months now and it's one of the best investments i've made software wise.
Thank you Stefan
AMAZING!!
The greatest thing about the studiolive series iii mixers is the outside dsp. 1176 compression, revers and delay sends for monitoring. Record dry but monitoring a nice wet signal helps
My version of your freeze all tracks is to export the instrumental as a wav file and have that in a separate session where I record all the vocals. When I’m done, Ableton makes it easy to pull those tracks back into the main session leaving vocal guides or failed experiment tracks behind. I do this for instrument recording as well when swapping out a midi instrument for the real thing.
yes! That's a great workflow suggestion! Ableton makes it extremely easy to merge 2 separate sessions together for your final mixdown! Now that M4 Max computers are ridiculously powerful I don't see myself bouncing or freezing ever again.
In Ableton 12 they added the option to disable the "Keep latency" button that is on underneath every track by default.
For vocals this will prevent any nudging you had to previously do in any version of ableton before 12.
This is a great option for people who use the Basic Fix I mentioned first, however this option does nothing if you’re using the advanced or expensive solutions 🔥👍
Brilliant
This is awesome and helpful. Would love to see your tips on removing latency for MIDI recording too. Thanks!
Simply Follow these basic solution steps to fix midi latency. My advanced solution, and expensive interface won’t help MIDI latency, but the basic approach will
@@ReidStefanMusic Thanks!!
I wish UAD would steal features from Ableton for production & workflow with Luna. So close to being a one-stop shop
I agree Luna is still missing many modern features like a sampler instrument, swings for MIDI, shortcuts for editing or creating MIDI, audio playlist recording, audio pre-recording… but it’s still the best design & graphics of any free DAW
Also, in the audio settings, changing to Asio and selecting the Asio's version of your interface will reduce the latency a lot!
Hi Stefan, do you think it’s still worth buying the older generation of the Apollo? I’m looking to order an X8p, and I noticed there’s nearly a $1000 difference between the Gen 2 and Gen 1 models. What’s your take on it?
Yes it’s definitely worth the cost for the previous generation 🔥
@@ReidStefanMusic Thank you very much !
It's all good, but you still need to check if your recorded audio (no matter what are you recording - vocals or from synths) have a decay on 60-90ms and you have to drag your audio track on grid to the right position
Coincidentally I had to fix latency on a guitar track this afternoon. I guess it doesn't matter, guitar or vocals? Great video.
Yes any audio input would be the exact same steps. Guitar, drums, vocals, horns, all the same workflow 🤘
Amazing video love you guys 🤍🤍🤍
Great and concise summary. In Ableton 12 the option Keep Latency should be unchecked when recording vocals or external acoustic or line in instruments. You'll find this option hidden in the Mixer.
This is a great option if you’re using the first workflow in my timestamps. However it won’t do anything in my advanced or expensive workflow suggestions
@ my understanding is that it nudges audio back so to be in line with previously recorded content. did you manually verify the behavior?
@ using other DAWs I’ve needed to manually nudge things left after every recoding. Ableton has always been correctly aligned for me. If I needed to test, I would probably record my metronome bleed from my headphones and zoom in to measure the difference.
@@ReidStefanMusic I'll probably verify this in a week or so. Not sure if it should depend on whether you're monitoring through your interface or not. It would make more sense for what's within Ableton's realm so to speak
Freezing has never worked for me :(
I ended creating dedicated vocal sessions... not that fast workflow, but it works.
Freezing and dedicated vocal sessions are indeed both slow, options. I always choose the advanced workflow or expensive option in my sessions!
It doesn't change the fact that i still have latency on recorded audio
Heya Reid. Good job on making a Tutorial. Oh & May I ask You something ?
Since I’m kinda having trouble with making Music of My own, Can You & the others make Musics of My own for Me ?
I use the JUCE open-source framework as a low latency audio device.
It’s free and I can run a 16 buffer size without overloading my CPU.
great! no latency on the ableton, but the puppets mouth and hands have a lot of buffer samples
Ahhhhh ahhh ah ahhh 🎶
.. lold and woke up my dog
Hi Reid!! Great Video!! 😊I’ve been subscribed to your channel for years now and really appreciate all your videos and all that I learned from them. So first of all I wanted to say thank you so very much for that. And looking forward to more great videos. I have one question and it’s the first time I’ve ever written to ask anything so thank you so much for taking the time in reading this.
I have a Mac mini M2 and I also have the new Apollo Twin X Gen2.
But I would like to get even less latency when recording vocals, even if it’s a small difference in milliseconds. So…. my question to you is, after watching this video, do you believe if I were to purchase the Mac mini M4 (Base Model or other), if I would even see a difference in even lower latency, even a little, than with my 16GB Mac mini M2 mainly and mostly when recording vocals over my temp-bounced “stereo” playback track in Logic, because I always record in a separate empty project, and not in the track production one with all the plug-ins and all the MIDI instruments, and if 16 GB versus 24 GB would have any effect or bearing also on having lower latency? Once again, thank you so much for taking the time to read this and I do hope very much to hear back from you soon. It would be a huge help to me to know your opinion on this. Thank you again! 🙏😊
Sincerely,
- CALEB SHAW -
M4 is going to perform much better for audio than M2. I have a review coming soon of the new Mac Mini
Awesome! Thank you so very much. And we are talking about the Base Model M4, not the Pro?
In that regard, last concern/ confirmation… ?is it going to be better or make a difference to have the 24 GB RAM over the 16 GB RAM for better results latency-wise? Or will that not really matter in that regard?
@@CalebStayton Both M4 and M4 Max are faster than M2. I'd recommend Get M4 Max if possible. The power is ridiculous as we demonstrated in KARRA's recent studio session/Review here! ruclips.net/video/tatLRLjYehY/видео.htmlsi=Srzb3GKezRbcnMQm
EXCELLENT!!! 🙏😊
I’m going to definitely look into the M4 Max now. I have no more questions. You’ve been so kind to take the time and answer me. It is very much appreciated!!
Thanks again Reid for everything!! Take Care and God Bless!! 🙏😊
Sincerely,
- CALEB SHAW -
Hi, I use the last method and often find I cannot get enough signal into Ableton. No matter how much I crank everything in console the wave form into the DAW is tiny. Any thoughts?
Perform closer to your mic if you run out of gain to boost 👍
@@ReidStefanMusic I do. Forgot to mention I use the Sphere mic. Any chance of a detailed vid using the console to Ableton method?
@@tadpringle3148here’s my full length console tutorial for recording vocals and setting perfect levels 🔥 ruclips.net/video/WSehBr-W-WE/видео.htmlsi=T8zjXJ06kTOvs_Sk
use the reduced latency when recoding/monitoring option!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is an ableton function!!!!!!!!!!! in settings!!!!!!!!!
This definitely helps if you're using the basic workflow in my timestamps. However it does nothing if you're using the Advanced or Expensive workflows I explained
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Rarely have this problem with Logic, but on the same computer Ableton isn't as fast. Wild Ableton hasn't improved this yet.
When you use the advanced or expensive approach for latency it doesn’t matter how good your DAW or computer are. I never do the basic approach even tho it’s very popular
Neumann Mt 48 VS Apollo twin X gen 2
Comparison video coming soon!
@ thanks… AD/DA and Headphone amp is really important, in workflow i think uad win easy
M4 max for audio, really ? You must have very huge projects.
They also edit high resolution videos, its justified
@@rohinseyam4713 video of course
Yes watch my latest session with M4 Max where we managed to nearly overload the CPU ruclips.net/video/tatLRLjYehY/видео.htmlsi=pBdQzdrOw7y2-byo