I have driven both the Ora and the MG4 and the MG4 is a much better all-round car although neither are great they are both just OK for the new discounted prices which reflects more accurately what these cars should have been priced at in the first place. There is no Ora in Australia for $15k USD ($23,600 AUD) new and far fewer people care about V2x than you think. The $26,990 price you see in WA is for 2022 and 2023 manufactured unsold but in most cases sub 100km, dealer demonstrators - not a "new" car in the strictest sense. You are seeing this because GWM vastly over-estimated demand for this car in Australia and had to stop importing new ones over a year ago - pricing reflects the need to get rid of 2 year old and in some cases cars that are about to be 3 years old in a couple of weeks. All Oras in Australia are August 2023 or earlier manufactured dates ( yes even the configure your car new from the website cars you will get an August 2023 or earlier manufactred car), many sat in holding yards for over a year before getting compliance plates because of the excess supply. GWM has confirmed there are no plans to bring in 2024 or 2025 manufactured models - these are effectively in end-of-model excess inventory clearout mode.
Sam, great story many thanks, I have installed PV on my house (10kW and storage 27kWh, I export 40 kWH on a good day after charging my batteries) and have no power bill for the majority of the year. I am happy but the amount of export energy I'm sending back to the grid is out of control. So I was actually thinking of a Nissan Leaf as a second car but the Ora looks like a much better choice for only a little more money. I am a retired Energy Consultant and the V2G has been around for a while but as you say only recently approved for use in OZ but the chargers have always been the achillies heal I hope that Amibox and Similar is going to export to OZ, there is another retailer selling a similar unit out of VIC but also similar money. Why on earth would you send your energy back to the Energy Retail Vultures to make a 600% profit off the energy you produced. Fill up the car's battery so you can drive locally without worries and then sell the excess back to the Grid.
$33,990 is the cheapest extended range i can find in Victoria Australia today. Where did this dude get it for 27k. That's Aussie dollars for all you internationals which is 21.6k U.S
In California you can't get an on-line system that is bigger than the home power usage, I think it's like 80% of usage, to get a solar system like you have would require we go off-line off-grid, I was able to cheat the system by using tons of power running my servers in my apartment then when I bought a house I had years of high power usage history and bills so I could then cover my entire small roof with solar and in fact they had to not use one panel because a pipe was in the way, so I'm 1 panel short of having 100% legal coverage on my roof (have to leave room for walking around them in case of fire) I have 36 panels 9KW with a single 7.5 KW inverter (it's fine because all the panels don't get full sun at the same time most of the time, it might have hit 100% a few times the first summer but not since, due to lack of rain and living in range of forest fire smoke and two oil refineries.
Rivian has stated that their vehicles are set up to V2G, however the standards have not been set yet and this capability has not been enabled yet. There are rumors it will be resolved soon with inverters hitting the market early 2025, but we will see about that.
Brought an ora extended range for 36000 a year ago. Could get it 10 grand cheaper now, but I have had 12 months with no fuel costs so it is about break even. As for Dutton's nuclear power plant, it only starts if we are stupid enough to vote for another delay in the power transition. My view, the Liberals have allready done enough damage.
Right?? They just want to drag coal out as long as they can. If nuclear ever was an option for us, it's in the past now and too late. We have solutions available to us now that are able to be stood up much faster and scaled up over time. I really hope not too many people are foolish enough to fall for the nuclear scam. 2037 (likely pushing to 2040) before even one single plant is TURNED ON, let alone up and running at maximum/optimal capacity is INSANE! We need cleaner energy now, not in 15+ years' time.
That's what's holding me back a bit from buying a new EV. Price drops n better cars always around the corner 😂 but then again you get to enjoy earlier 🎉
Awesome price for a great little EV ! Many Middle Class Northern Americans can only dream of affordable Electric Vehicles. Hope this will happen someday? Dream on, guys Dream on . 😉💖🌬🌊🌞⚡️🔋🚙💯👍 😉💖🌏✌️🙏
Good to hear there is some thinking going on here in Australia at last. It makes sense to use an EV in the power supply mix. Your view on Dutton is correct Sam. That mob will never see it. Dutton will try to do to the energy sector the same as his outfit (TurnbullAbbott) did to the Internet here in Australia. That is to BIAU. Question please::: where do you buy this $24K Ora car here????
Yeah, I found the same, and that's the 48 kWH model, not the 60 kWH that he's talking about in the video. So I'm not sure where 26k is being done at? Either way, it's good to see more affordability.
Australia does not have a car industry anymore -all the car manufacturers have closed down so there is no local industry to protect .The same situation applies to NZ which also has an FTA with China
dit your xpeng also have vehicle to grid? nah i dint think so either. tesla and byd alr have it build in and a lot of solar comp alr have it build in like solar edge and sma
I think ev makers are flat missing the market. Design a no frills capable off roader with a big battery and a built in solar controller. Let the ev serve as a complete power station for an off grid home We know it wont be able to power air conditioning or a clothing dryer butt a water well pump , lighting , a small refrigerator, ect... Instead of be portrayed as a means of control, it could be a way to personal freedom . Maybe market it with a tiny home? My personal thoughts but a Chinese manufacturer facing incredible competition might find a way to deliver a home and vehicle for about 100,000 usd add land and a well... septic and honey I'm home
Toyota Aygo X, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Prius, Renault Clio, Dacia Sandero, Dacia Logan, Dacia Duster are all in the same price range and all much better cars
The future of energy is this .... Because of Australian Government 😂😂😂 Unless China, EU or US set the same standards absolutely nothing will happen in regards to equipment standards, economy of scale, lower prices, ...
So i need to buy an ora which is really around 32K. Then install solar panels for around 15K. Now ive spent 47 K and with government and company aproval. I might be able to power my house through the night which would traditionally cost me like $10 a night in winter and $5 in summer. But i get an Ora with the package which is actually a nice car. Im gonna have to have a good think about this one. I think Sam is pushing himself and this whole electric thing a bit too far as it is his job so needs to find sources to make more videos to make more money. For 47K. I can run my twin cab for the next 10 years without all the work and drama.
I actually like watching his comments and videos. In addition, it is a good documentary about the future of the grid. However, this is almost misleading information about the price for us to watch and investigate that is not the actual price to go to a dealer and buy it. Please don’t be one more of the fishing RUclipsrs.
Someone came up to him and called him Electric Australian Viking hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂 hilarious! Every day it becomes funnier! We have a good laugh in Scandinavia at the asperviking ...reading articles on RUclips. It starts to look like the China observer channel...(Australia Observer)
I think you charge it from your solar panels during daylight and then use it to power your home at night. So you need solar panels first which are around 10 to 15k . Then you need the Ora which is in reality around 32k. So now you have spent 47k and can power your house at night.
@@thewolf9851 The average auto sold in America is like US$40,000. And I don't think fossilmobiles are modern or better. They're all armored personnel carriers here.
This is an Australian based creator. Who cares about the USA ffs. Goddamn backwater. Not much to create if he only reported on cars available in US. You ban everything that's cheaper and better. Get back in your box.
Why is this guy always pushing cheap Chinese cars, and rubbishing US and European cars? I would not touch a Chinese car, especially an electric one, ever. Is this channel promoted by China?
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The drive away price I see on their website is $33,490 for the 420km range one. And that's using an ABN? Must have gone to a really cheap dealer?
I have driven both the Ora and the MG4 and the MG4 is a much better all-round car although neither are great they are both just OK for the new discounted prices which reflects more accurately what these cars should have been priced at in the first place.
There is no Ora in Australia for $15k USD ($23,600 AUD) new and far fewer people care about V2x than you think.
The $26,990 price you see in WA is for 2022 and 2023 manufactured unsold but in most cases sub 100km, dealer demonstrators - not a "new" car in the strictest sense. You are seeing this because GWM vastly over-estimated demand for this car in Australia and had to stop importing new ones over a year ago - pricing reflects the need to get rid of 2 year old and in some cases cars that are about to be 3 years old in a couple of weeks.
All Oras in Australia are August 2023 or earlier manufactured dates ( yes even the configure your car new from the website cars you will get an August 2023 or earlier manufactred car), many sat in holding yards for over a year before getting compliance plates because of the excess supply.
GWM has confirmed there are no plans to bring in 2024 or 2025 manufactured models - these are effectively in end-of-model excess inventory clearout mode.
Still cheap
I love the Ora. So cute and nice interior
It’s a fun car with a character
Well done Sam and SAIC
The price quoted was for a used car, albeit with a low mileage.
The GWM Ora can be a cheap car to buy (usually $34k aud) but it is nicely made and appointed with modern retro stylish looks.
Sam, great story many thanks, I have installed PV on my house (10kW and storage 27kWh, I export 40 kWH on a good day after charging my batteries) and have no power bill for the majority of the year. I am happy but the amount of export energy I'm sending back to the grid is out of control. So I was actually thinking of a Nissan Leaf as a second car but the Ora looks like a much better choice for only a little more money. I am a retired Energy Consultant and the V2G has been around for a while but as you say only recently approved for use in OZ but the chargers have always been the achillies heal I hope that Amibox and Similar is going to export to OZ, there is another retailer selling a similar unit out of VIC but also similar money. Why on earth would you send your energy back to the Energy Retail Vultures to make a 600% profit off the energy you produced. Fill up the car's battery so you can drive locally without worries and then sell the excess back to the Grid.
$33,990 is the cheapest extended range i can find in Victoria Australia today. Where did this dude get it for 27k.
That's Aussie dollars for all you internationals which is 21.6k U.S
Japan govt bringing in BYD vehicles for vehicles to grid , can do away with thoughts on nuclear power unless there is no sunlight where you live
In California you can't get an on-line system that is bigger than the home power usage, I think it's like 80% of usage, to get a solar system like you have would require we go off-line off-grid, I was able to cheat the system by using tons of power running my servers in my apartment then when I bought a house I had years of high power usage history and bills so I could then cover my entire small roof with solar and in fact they had to not use one panel because a pipe was in the way, so I'm 1 panel short of having 100% legal coverage on my roof (have to leave room for walking around them in case of fire) I have 36 panels 9KW with a single 7.5 KW inverter (it's fine because all the panels don't get full sun at the same time most of the time, it might have hit 100% a few times the first summer but not since, due to lack of rain and living in range of forest fire smoke and two oil refineries.
Wallbox , and dcbel are two others working on V2G hardware
Rivian has stated that their vehicles are set up to V2G, however the standards have not been set yet and this capability has not been enabled yet. There are rumors it will be resolved soon with inverters hitting the market early 2025, but we will see about that.
Brought an ora extended range for 36000 a year ago. Could get it 10 grand cheaper now, but I have had 12 months with no fuel costs so it is about break even. As for Dutton's nuclear power plant, it only starts if we are stupid enough to vote for another delay in the power transition. My view, the Liberals have allready done enough damage.
Nuclear will save us from the zero emissions delusion.
Right?? They just want to drag coal out as long as they can. If nuclear ever was an option for us, it's in the past now and too late. We have solutions available to us now that are able to be stood up much faster and scaled up over time.
I really hope not too many people are foolish enough to fall for the nuclear scam. 2037 (likely pushing to 2040) before even one single plant is TURNED ON, let alone up and running at maximum/optimal capacity is INSANE! We need cleaner energy now, not in 15+ years' time.
That's what's holding me back a bit from buying a new EV. Price drops n better cars always around the corner 😂 but then again you get to enjoy earlier 🎉
Awesome price for a great little EV !
Many Middle Class Northern Americans can only dream of affordable Electric Vehicles.
Hope this will happen someday?
Dream on, guys
Dream on .
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We already have them, Tesla Model 3 used or new, greatest car ever made
In us you can buy Kia soul for 21000. It is a great deal my friend
Pretax
Good to hear there is some thinking going on here in Australia at last. It makes sense to use an EV in the power supply mix. Your view on Dutton is correct Sam. That mob will never see it. Dutton will try to do to the energy sector the same as his outfit (TurnbullAbbott) did to the Internet here in Australia. That is to BIAU. Question please::: where do you buy this $24K Ora car here????
when the penny drops and I realise that solar panels with a funky cat are my lifestyle goals V2G baby!
In NSW the price is AUD 32500 for the cheapest model AFAICS. $24k ?
He is talking about used models, but only about 1 year old (2023 models)
Yeah, I found the same, and that's the 48 kWH model, not the 60 kWH that he's talking about in the video. So I'm not sure where 26k is being done at? Either way, it's good to see more affordability.
@@georgegibson707 oh that makes sense. Still quite good.
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Bring these kinda cars to North America AND Canada
I want to see the Xiami Su7 and Zeeker 007
not going to happen
@@eliso5973k bud
If you don’t anything meaningful to say don’t waste our time
These cars are too good, GM and Fird can not compete
You can have them but for now you'll pay double because of tariffs
Why?
Maybe you should do simple google search before you send video . Price for long range is $33,490.00 drive away not 26000
Can't they make a basic car with fewer options that are less prone to fail?
Just paid $30k for 40kwh solar battery. Wish government fast track the bidirectional charging approval
I don't understand why all the West have duties of 30 to 100% for the US and Canada and in Australia the Chinese ev easily enters
Australia does not have a car industry anymore -all the car manufacturers have closed down so there is no local industry to protect .The same situation applies to NZ which also has an FTA with China
It's because the corporate controlled government doesn't want cheap and good products in.
dit your xpeng also have vehicle to grid? nah i dint think so either. tesla and byd alr have it build in and a lot of solar comp alr have it build in like solar edge and sma
While V2x looks like a good deal, we have to remember if you drive it then you loose the V2x functionality.
You just wait Sam Trump say oil and ICE is the future. Must be true. Trump agrees he's a genius.
I would love to see this car in the US, but we will have the most incompetent government coming to power in January. Great work!! Love the channel
Trump’s 4 year term was much more successful than Biden’s
His second term has to now fix all the Biden F’ups like the economy and the wars going on
Biden is coming back?
How have the last 4 years been?
Trump will save you and embolden the West to turn back to sensible government.
@@joelmccoy6474 Way better then it is going to be ;)
Electric cars are overpriced in Australia. It's because of greedy importers and government taxes. No taxes on electric cars.
There is shipping cost n tax, importers don't run charity 😂
Zaptec is coming with a v2g charger for les than 1000 dollar
Link?
I think ev makers are flat missing the market.
Design a no frills capable off roader with a big battery and a built in solar controller.
Let the ev serve as a complete power station for an off grid home
We know it wont be able to power air conditioning or a clothing dryer butt a water well pump , lighting , a small refrigerator, ect...
Instead of be portrayed as a means of control, it could be a way to personal freedom . Maybe market it with a tiny home?
My personal thoughts but a Chinese manufacturer facing incredible competition might find a way to deliver a home and vehicle for about 100,000 usd add land and a well... septic and honey I'm home
Toyota Aygo X, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Prius, Renault Clio, Dacia Sandero, Dacia Logan, Dacia Duster are all in the same price range and all much better cars
Well, here in America a Corolla would probably run at least US$22,000. And the Prius a lot more than that.
The future of energy is this .... Because of Australian Government 😂😂😂
Unless China, EU or US set the same standards absolutely nothing will happen in regards to equipment standards, economy of scale, lower prices, ...
Don’t forget the Powerwall 3 has a built in inverter.
The price will be higher than that and the performance will be worse
So i need to buy an ora which is really around 32K. Then install solar panels for around 15K. Now ive spent 47 K and with government and company aproval. I might be able to power my house through the night which would traditionally cost me like $10 a night in winter and $5 in summer. But i get an Ora with the package which is actually a nice car. Im gonna have to have a good think about this one. I think Sam is pushing himself and this whole electric thing a bit too far as it is his job so needs to find sources to make more videos to make more money. For 47K. I can run my twin cab for the next 10 years without all the work and drama.
could you buy and run a new version of your twin cab for anywhere near that amount of money though?
Adding fuel and maintenance for the car, does that change the numbers? Still, good to see pricing estimates, thanks.
power house 24/7
How can you support the grid if you take electricity from the grid to begin with?
I actually like watching his comments and videos. In addition, it is a good documentary about the future of the grid. However, this is almost misleading information about the price for us to watch and investigate that is not the actual price to go to a dealer and buy it. Please don’t be one more of the fishing RUclipsrs.
one caveat what is the output to your home , you wont be running everything maybe keep the lights and power on but in oz air conn may be a struggle.
Someone came up to him and called him Electric Australian Viking hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂 hilarious! Every day it becomes funnier! We have a good laugh in Scandinavia at the asperviking ...reading articles on RUclips. It starts to look like the China observer channel...(Australia Observer)
Why would you say Dutton will never complete a nuclear power station?
The left are desperate for Australia to say non nuclear. Once we break the ice with the first reactor we will enter a new clean power age.
so i charge my ev from the grid so i can put the energy back into the grid ?
I think you charge it from your solar panels during daylight and then use it to power your home at night. So you need solar panels first which are around 10 to 15k . Then you need the Ora which is in reality around 32k. So now you have spent 47k and can power your house at night.
yes, that's bidirection.
@@农夫山泉-j7j you didnt it 🤔
Amusing to think the Yanks cant get to buy all these modern, cheap vehicle's because they live 'free', such numb nuts!
They get to buy other modern and cheap vehicles which are even better
@@thewolf9851 The average auto sold in America is like US$40,000.
And I don't think fossilmobiles are modern or better. They're all armored personnel carriers here.
Oil is the future.
$USD on a car from China in Australia, get real
This is what our app is designed to do, encouraging people to get off the grid and earn income.
clip bait
Waffle clickbait
Please stop showing cars you can't buy in the USA and get the price right so far you are WRONG on all the prices
This is an Australian based creator. Who cares about the USA ffs. Goddamn backwater. Not much to create if he only reported on cars available in US. You ban everything that's cheaper and better. Get back in your box.
EV’S FOR SALE WITH HUGE DISCOUNTS - BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS THEM!!!
You can look up global plug-in sales figures for the current year on Google whenever you dare.
Why is this guy always pushing cheap Chinese cars, and rubbishing US and European cars? I would not touch a Chinese car, especially an electric one, ever. Is this channel promoted by China?
The US and European automakers abandoned their Australian factories. They won't even build right-hand-drive cars to send to Australia.
No such thing as a cheap EV. It will cost you sooner or later.
ICE cars cost a lot more with fuel costs servicing and repairs as well as high depreciation
not really.
Yes ICE is over. What you say doesn't matter. The market is shouting. VW, Nissan, Stellantis will be bankrupt in 1 year.