The Feds and Province already provide about $900M annual subsidy to TTC. The city kicks in about $50M. Recently, Doug Ford invested $11.2B to help fund The Ontario Line, Scarborough Subway, Yonge Extension & Eglinton Extension. Meanwhile Chow eagerly spends $5.2B to rename Dundas St, $12.7M to rename Dundas Square, and $10M to add 25km of bike lanes in the west end.
@@ahurafarahani7751 The Feds and Province already provide about $900M annual subsidy to TTC. The city kicks in about $50M. Recently, Doug Ford invested $11.2B to help fund The Ontario Line, Scarborough Subway, Yonge Extension & Eglinton Extension. Meanwhile Chow eagerly spends $5.2B to rename Dundas St, $12.7M to rename Dundas Square, and $10M to add 25km of bike lanes in the west end.
Believe it or not, but the government used to give them free TTC Tokens monthly. I knew about this cause they used to go to my old part-time corner store job to sell those tokens for cheap to buy cigarettes...
Under house ppl is the smallest fraction of fair evasion. We have regular people not paying, and is you ask them to pay, they ignore us, insult us or even assault us
Do you really believe if someone doesn't pay a fare that they will pay a fine. It's always about the money when it comes to the ordinary citizen, but the government will give millions and billions to Corporations that's okay. Go figure.
so you think you can live just fine without paying the fine? you're wrong! Unless you're not gonna buy house, car or take the driving license. They can get you!
It's all in the sun shine list. Too execs over $250k and ceo over $450k. No public official. Should make so much for essentially an non competitive monopoly service
@@anotheran they may be public officials, but reality is that its below industry standards for Execs & CEOS of such a large and complex organization, with so many moving parts.
I see many young people avoiding the ticket when entering through the back door, but they carry boxes of pizza, or milkshakes, or use headphones or expensive cell phones, perhaps they do not understand that we all collaborate so that this society continues to function in the best possible way. I think the best solution might be to restrict the back door to only exit, using a one-way revolving door.
Some young people buying luxuries for themselves isn't what's hurting the country financially. It's the government basing themselves around how to make the most money without any care for the poor.
what campaign are they launching about the TTC services evasion as well as lying to customers....? or maybe stop giving your board members free TTC .....?
I paid my fare by apple pay, still got the fine ticket because fare inspector believed I didn't pay. Well, 2 days later the transaction came up on my bank account, what now ttc?
Talk about time adjustments for pass holders due to delays that shorten commute time for pass holders too. Address customer avoiding transit operators too so people that pay don't loose money.
Ttc is losing absolutely so much money annually, I know bcs I am part of it, and is absurd that if we as front line worker ask someone to pay and that person would rather insult the employee or even at times that person would assault the employee, that is sad
10% of the carbon tax revenues collected in Ontario is used to fund grants for municipalities and public transit systems like the TTC and Toronto to retrofit buildings and buy new buses and trains.
It is interesting that nobody mentioned the absolute money pit that is the Eglinton Cross Town. Millions of dollars sunk into that project and still no launch date. But sure lets focus on fare evasion. 🙄
Pay fair right. They only target working class neighbour hoods. You will not see ttc officer west bound from River to Younge. I see same people not paying and when approach by enforcement there just told to make to pay next time and then next day the same thing over again.
@@simonsez7213 while police presence was increased in 2023, they made 314 arrests and 220 mental health related referrals. Our anti-police Mayor Chows solution to making the TTC even safer is to reduce police presence, and hire 50 security guards and 20 community safety ambassadors. 🤣
Oh , i shudder to think about how & who they will target. I’ve seen old white lady’s not pay, i’ve seen young white white women with Louis Vuitton purse not pay. I know bus driver’s and ticket booth collector’s who rather than enforce fare payment, just let friends & foe alike, enter for free on a regular basis. TTC employees contribute to the fare evasion problem to the tune of thousands of dollars. They have their buddies(along bus routes) & regularly show favouritism. One would say “ before you pluck the speck in my eye, remove the speck in your own first “. You have an employee problem TTC , look into it. 🇨🇦✌🏼🇨🇦✌🏼🇨🇦🙄🤨
Judging people based on socioeconomic status is wrong. Everyone should be treated fair and equitably, and as such their living situation shouldn’t be a factor when it comes to crime.
Have you thought that maybe housing costs so much that people cant afford to get to work? And have you also thought that the public funds TTC thru taxes and as such its a public service and charging the public to use a service they already paid for is a hypocrisy
This obviously doesn’t apply to the crack smokers and unhoused riders, just the people they think they can extract money from. . . even though if you have to take the TTC to begin with you’re probably stuck performing low wage work for downtown Toronto anyways and car ownership & insurance is out of reach. Gotta keep the cycle going.
Fare evasion cross all socio-economic classes, age groups, ethnicities, etc. Not about poverty. It's about people thinking it's not worth paying for lol
Pierre Poilievre came on CP24 for an interview today where he promised no more additional funding to the City of Toronto or the TTC. Then he said we shouldn’t be throwing more money at something that is failing. lol most of his supporters are going to take that message as a license to evade paying their TTC fares because the system is failing. People forget he is the same clown that egged on the Freedom Convoy Nutters to shutdown downtown Ottawa for weeks.😂😂
First off, that is not at all what Pierre said. He said Toronto takes it taxes and nust hires more beaurocrats. Toronto has worse beaurocracy than Vancouver when it comes to building housing. Secondly, i guarantee you at least 90% of fare evaders are either NDP or Liberal voters, aka those who love to virtue signal how much they care about something, while they sacrifice nothing for what they supposedly care for. Lastly, your rhetoric on the Freedom convoy proves the above point. Let me remind you the LONG struggles of western civilization to construct a government entity that works for we the people, not the other way around. When it came to vaccine mandates, that was a government telling us that we the peolem had 2 choices. Either take the vaccine or starve to death. And who was it exactly that was reporting on the authorities when there were those that dared to have social gatherings without "social distancing" or wearing masks? Oh riiiiijght, the same "virtue signalling" bunch that showed up to said freedom protests with nazi flags and what not in an attempt to pass off as said protestors to paint a false image of said protestors. The usual fascists on the left that speak of diversity and what not. But said diversity on the left only extends to the colour of one's skin and/or their genital interactions. But you better damn well be a white liberal on the inside or else. The same goes with way too many policies put in place by this government. For example, the Carbon taxes? Who voted for this 61 cent a litre carbon tax? And who voted for this to be increeased yet again. Oh, we have people like you who live in a city and take the TTC and have a grocery store within 5 minutes, thinking that your vote for Justin Trudeau should perfectly equate to the lives of those that run a business, run a farm who, for example, if they pay 10,000 in heating costs, they are paying similar in carbon taxes. And for what? A country that's responsible for 1.5% of the global man made C02? While China with just 17.5% of the global population is responsible for well over 30% of all man made C02? So either you are Chinese and relishing in Canada's self-destruction, or you are a liberal voter, aka stupid. Canada is at the bottom of G7 when it comes to GDP. Our GDP is on par with a country that could fit into Canada over 33 times. That country being Italy. We have 1 tenth of America's population, and yet our houses are more than twice as expensive on average. Explain the level of incompetence it takes to make the above a reality. I can, people with your fantasy land ideals being in charge of this country. Our country is over 2.32 trillion dollars in mortgage debt with our banks having less that 1% (one bank has 0.52%) in liquid assets. For the liberals that can't do math, its like me loaning you 1000 dollars while i have $5.20. We're basically in pre 2008 conditions and yet here we are sending billions to Ukraine, another 5.2 billion to the Phillipines and we're fighting climate change by making life even more difficult for the Canadians that fuel this economy. Its the equivalent of being on the Titanic and the Liberals and NDP are throwing snowballs at each other while the conservatives are trying to warn us that the ship is sinking. Of course its easier for a low skill, low intellect lefty politician to "fight climate change" because no matter how many billions they drain from we the taxpayers, you can't measure the results of their efforts. Its an amazing con. But if they actually attempted to do their job, like adressing the issues listed above, we would be able to measure their skill and competance. See in before 1968, Canada was 0 dollars in debt. Fast forward to Justin Trudeau's father and beyond, that debt sky rocketed. Harper is the only PM that was bringing that debt down. But once Trudeau took charge, that debt has spiked in a trajectory never before seen in Canadian history. But you know, global warming and #ImWithUkraine and #ISupportTheCurrentThing lefties.
Transit fares are a poor tax. Fine those who can’t pay? Spend more collect less. Why are we paying to go to work or school or shopping? Transit should be free
We spend a lot of time and money counting that fare. Enforcing the fare. Transit used to be paid by the companies who wanted the workers to come to work. Perhaps your employer should at your fare. Participating in life shouldn’t cost more. We have to work and shop and go to schools. There is an entire middle management that contributes nothing to operational success. There is a way to eliminate this without it costing us directly. Writing tickets to people who can’t pay just costs more in enforcement. We are so used to paying to exist we don’t even question it
@@jedibane if people don’t pay their fare how you think we will keep the ttc functioning, paying the ttc employees wages, keeping the subway, buses and streetcars clean, etc? Besides $3.30 on a presto card is cheap fare. I’m surprised you didn’t write for shopping that it should be free because of the cost is high.
No one in Toronto is living in ''deep poverty." There is food and shelter available for everyone. Humans, but specifically Canadians, have not yet figured out how to deal with the mentally ill. Perhaps we just don't want to incur the expenses required to do it effectively.
They should spend money on better service. Waiting for a streetcar for half an hour downtown on a Friday night is not fun.
When nobody pays the fare, how can they improve the service?
@@simonsez7213by making sure they are getting the proper funding from the province and the feds?????
The Feds and Province already provide about $900M annual subsidy to TTC. The city kicks in about $50M.
Recently, Doug Ford invested $11.2B to help fund The Ontario Line, Scarborough Subway, Yonge Extension & Eglinton Extension.
Meanwhile Chow eagerly spends $5.2B to rename Dundas St, $12.7M to rename Dundas Square, and $10M to add 25km of bike lanes in the west end.
@@ahurafarahani7751 The Feds and Province already provide about $900M annual subsidy to TTC. The city kicks in about $50M.
Recently, Doug Ford invested $11.2B to help fund The Ontario Line, Scarborough Subway, Yonge Extension & Eglinton Extension.
Meanwhile Chow eagerly spends $5.2B to rename Dundas St, $12.7M to rename Dundas Square, and $10M to add 25km of bike lanes in the west end.
buy a car kid lol, nobody cares that you dont want to make something of your life
Does that include all the homeless who sneak into the transit system?
Believe it or not, but the government used to give them free TTC Tokens monthly. I knew about this cause they used to go to my old part-time corner store job to sell those tokens for cheap to buy cigarettes...
How about the University students and food-bank goers on College Street?
Under house ppl is the smallest fraction of fair evasion. We have regular people not paying, and is you ask them to pay, they ignore us, insult us or even assault us
And the international students who ride free 😊
Do you really believe if someone doesn't pay a fare that they will pay a fine.
It's always about the money when it comes to the ordinary citizen, but the government will give millions and billions to Corporations that's okay. Go figure.
The more you have, the more you get. That's a fact of life.
What about all the billions to Ukraine to murder innocent civilians
so you think you can live just fine without paying the fine? you're wrong! Unless you're not gonna buy house, car or take the driving license. They can get you!
In New York, practically more than half of the people do not pay for transportation
Then they should make public transit free and just raise everybody's taxes.
lol NYC is using the National Guard as overpaid fare inspectors on their transit system.😂😂
@@Sam19509i thought they brought in the National Guard due to all the stabbings and shootings on their subway??
Lol this campaign sounds like last year’s. Warning that it’s “disrespectful” lol. Just because you’re poor doesn’t mean it’s a free ride.
I wonder how much the CEOs and top executives at the TTC make?
It's all in the sun shine list. Too execs over $250k and ceo over $450k. No public official. Should make so much for essentially an non competitive monopoly service
What does that have to do with anything?
@@anotheran they may be public officials, but reality is that its below industry standards for Execs & CEOS of such a large and complex organization, with so many moving parts.
@@mikec3971 ppl are welcome to move to the private sector. Lots of ppl can do their jobs. Pay should be capped below 150k
Fares go up, service goes down. Make it make sense
But you still have to pay your fares .
how about making it safe so you dont get stabbed
Millions of ppl are not back to normal
Ttc needs to focus on how to reduce the violent attacks in the subway before talking to us about fare evasion 🤦🏾♀️
Clearly the TTC want to make sure that victims are paying their fair share, like everyone else, before they get stabbed.
I see many young people avoiding the ticket when entering through the back door, but they carry boxes of pizza, or milkshakes, or use headphones or expensive cell phones, perhaps they do not understand that we all collaborate so that this society continues to function in the best possible way.
I think the best solution might be to restrict the back door to only exit, using a one-way revolving door.
🤭 совести нету нихуя 🤭
@@cuteangelsongs.w1113zuch Если вы объясните немного больше, я смогу понять вашу точку зрения.
Some young people buying luxuries for themselves isn't what's hurting the country financially. It's the government basing themselves around how to make the most money without any care for the poor.
what campaign are they launching about the TTC services evasion as well as lying to customers....?
or maybe stop giving your board members free TTC .....?
Why don't they make the TTC free...that way you wouldn't have to hire people to catch them.
If you make it free then all the homeless and crack heads will take over. Is that what you want?
Would you work for free?
they wouldnt...they get the money from property tax@@sublimek
Lose the honour system
Millenials and Gen Z don't believe in tradition...why would anyone expect them to believe in honour. haha
Ok. Put those FARE inspectors on buses. This contract y’all better have my money. My bus alone looses 600$ a day
Hirer more security guards.I see people walk in to Subway stations from where the buses enter and exit. Just have one at each exit/entrence.
I paid my fare by apple pay, still got the fine ticket because fare inspector believed I didn't pay. Well, 2 days later the transaction came up on my bank account, what now ttc?
Talk about time adjustments for pass holders due to delays that shorten commute time for pass holders too. Address customer avoiding transit operators too so people that pay don't loose money.
Yet their antiquated system still costs me $3.35 to go one stop or thirty eight stops.
What happened to smart track!
That won't happen until people start paying fare 😮
Ttc is losing absolutely so much money annually, I know bcs I am part of it, and is absurd that if we as front line worker ask someone to pay and that person would rather insult the employee or even at times that person would assault the employee, that is sad
Toronto mighty planet
10% of the carbon tax revenues collected in Ontario is used to fund grants for municipalities and public transit systems like the TTC and Toronto to retrofit buildings and buy new buses and trains.
It is interesting that nobody mentioned the absolute money pit that is the Eglinton Cross Town. Millions of dollars sunk into that project and still no launch date.
But sure lets focus on fare evasion. 🙄
Pay fair right. They only target working class neighbour hoods. You will not see ttc officer west bound from River to Younge. I see same people not paying and when approach by enforcement there just told to make to pay next time and then next day the same thing over again.
😂 я за 5 лет ttc на целое состояние денег кинул 😂
That doesn't work on the Go Train...they issues fines / tickets. It would be nice if TTC will does the same.
😂😂 It's only a job , nobody wants to be stabbed or shot.
@@simonsez7213 while police presence was increased in 2023, they made 314 arrests and 220 mental health related referrals.
Our anti-police Mayor Chows solution to making the TTC even safer is to reduce police presence, and hire 50 security guards and 20 community safety ambassadors. 🤣
Oh , i shudder to think about how & who they will target. I’ve seen old white lady’s not pay, i’ve seen young white white women with Louis Vuitton purse not pay. I know bus driver’s and ticket booth collector’s who rather than enforce fare payment, just let friends & foe alike, enter for free on a regular basis.
TTC employees contribute to the fare evasion problem to the tune of thousands of dollars. They have their buddies(along bus routes) & regularly show favouritism.
One would say “ before you pluck the speck in my eye, remove the speck in your own first “.
You have an employee problem TTC , look into it.
🇨🇦✌🏼🇨🇦✌🏼🇨🇦🙄🤨
Judging people based on socioeconomic status is wrong.
Everyone should be treated fair and equitably, and as such their living situation shouldn’t be a factor when it comes to crime.
It's not disrespectful. Its theft of service. they just allow it. but just like every other crime in the city, they just look the other way.
Like stealing from the LCBO.😂😂
TTC brought this problem to themselves with their new streetcars. Like honestly they didn’t know a joke.
Toronto mighty planet
Are you a hindu bot trying to communicate with people?
Have you thought that maybe housing costs so much that people cant afford to get to work? And have you also thought that the public funds TTC thru taxes and as such its a public service and charging the public to use a service they already paid for is a hypocrisy
This obviously doesn’t apply to the crack smokers and unhoused riders, just the people they think they can extract money from. . . even though if you have to take the TTC to begin with you’re probably stuck performing low wage work for downtown Toronto anyways and car ownership & insurance is out of reach. Gotta keep the cycle going.
no seat=no fare..you're not getting the full service
Fare evasion cross all socio-economic classes, age groups, ethnicities, etc. Not about poverty. It's about people thinking it's not worth paying for lol
International students and self entitled people dont pay 😮
Pierre Poilievre came on CP24 for an interview today where he promised no more additional funding to the City of Toronto or the TTC. Then he said we shouldn’t be throwing more money at something that is failing. lol most of his supporters are going to take that message as a license to evade paying their TTC fares because the system is failing. People forget he is the same clown that egged on the Freedom Convoy Nutters to shutdown downtown Ottawa for weeks.😂😂
First off, that is not at all what Pierre said. He said Toronto takes it taxes and nust hires more beaurocrats. Toronto has worse beaurocracy than Vancouver when it comes to building housing.
Secondly, i guarantee you at least 90% of fare evaders are either NDP or Liberal voters, aka those who love to virtue signal how much they care about something, while they sacrifice nothing for what they supposedly care for.
Lastly, your rhetoric on the Freedom convoy proves the above point. Let me remind you the LONG struggles of western civilization to construct a government entity that works for we the people, not the other way around. When it came to vaccine mandates, that was a government telling us that we the peolem had 2 choices. Either take the vaccine or starve to death. And who was it exactly that was reporting on the authorities when there were those that dared to have social gatherings without "social distancing" or wearing masks? Oh riiiiijght, the same "virtue signalling" bunch that showed up to said freedom protests with nazi flags and what not in an attempt to pass off as said protestors to paint a false image of said protestors. The usual fascists on the left that speak of diversity and what not. But said diversity on the left only extends to the colour of one's skin and/or their genital interactions. But you better damn well be a white liberal on the inside or else.
The same goes with way too many policies put in place by this government. For example, the Carbon taxes? Who voted for this 61 cent a litre carbon tax? And who voted for this to be increeased yet again.
Oh, we have people like you who live in a city and take the TTC and have a grocery store within 5 minutes, thinking that your vote for Justin Trudeau should perfectly equate to the lives of those that run a business, run a farm who, for example, if they pay 10,000 in heating costs, they are paying similar in carbon taxes. And for what? A country that's responsible for 1.5% of the global man made C02? While China with just 17.5% of the global population is responsible for well over 30% of all man made C02? So either you are Chinese and relishing in Canada's self-destruction, or you are a liberal voter, aka stupid.
Canada is at the bottom of G7 when it comes to GDP. Our GDP is on par with a country that could fit into Canada over 33 times. That country being Italy. We have 1 tenth of America's population, and yet our houses are more than twice as expensive on average. Explain the level of incompetence it takes to make the above a reality. I can, people with your fantasy land ideals being in charge of this country.
Our country is over 2.32 trillion dollars in mortgage debt with our banks having less that 1% (one bank has 0.52%) in liquid assets. For the liberals that can't do math, its like me loaning you 1000 dollars while i have $5.20. We're basically in pre 2008 conditions and yet here we are sending billions to Ukraine, another 5.2 billion to the Phillipines and we're fighting climate change by making life even more difficult for the Canadians that fuel this economy. Its the equivalent of being on the Titanic and the Liberals and NDP are throwing snowballs at each other while the conservatives are trying to warn us that the ship is sinking.
Of course its easier for a low skill, low intellect lefty politician to "fight climate change" because no matter how many billions they drain from we the taxpayers, you can't measure the results of their efforts. Its an amazing con. But if they actually attempted to do their job, like adressing the issues listed above, we would be able to measure their skill and competance.
See in before 1968, Canada was 0 dollars in debt. Fast forward to Justin Trudeau's father and beyond, that debt sky rocketed. Harper is the only PM that was bringing that debt down. But once Trudeau took charge, that debt has spiked in a trajectory never before seen in Canadian history. But you know, global warming and #ImWithUkraine and #ISupportTheCurrentThing lefties.
😂 кароч из гербария в цирк превратили 😂
Obviously it doubled people are struggling
I was always told that stealing is not the answer.
So if people cannot afford to pay for food, then is it okay to steal food?
Okay but what about the Jews?
Make it more affordable and everyone will be able to pay and have more buses on rush hour, specially in Scarborough
If it is so much better in your country then go there.
@@laurabellinger5683yikes
$3.30 on presto card is cheap fare.
@@sexyloverback these LOSERS want it free, so their don't pay and that's stealing.
@@JYZProductions it makes me sick to see how many people in this city how think stealing $3.00 is ok. But they all have $1500.00 cell phones.
Transit fares are a poor tax. Fine those who can’t pay? Spend more collect less. Why are we paying to go to work or school or shopping? Transit should be free
if free who going to fund the transit? your tax might go even higher if you do so so think about it
You're a fool, go home
We spend a lot of time and money counting that fare. Enforcing the fare. Transit used to be paid by the companies who wanted the workers to come to work. Perhaps your employer should at your fare. Participating in life shouldn’t cost more. We have to work and shop and go to schools. There is an entire middle management that contributes nothing to operational success. There is a way to eliminate this without it costing us directly. Writing tickets to people who can’t pay just costs more in enforcement. We are so used to paying to exist we don’t even question it
@@laurabellinger5683what does that mean?
@@jedibane if people don’t pay their fare how you think we will keep the ttc functioning, paying the ttc employees wages, keeping the subway, buses and streetcars clean, etc? Besides $3.30 on a presto card is cheap fare.
I’m surprised you didn’t write for shopping that it should be free because of the cost is high.
No one in Toronto is living in ''deep poverty." There is food and shelter available for everyone.
Humans, but specifically Canadians, have not yet figured out how to deal with the mentally ill. Perhaps we just don't want to incur the expenses required to do it effectively.
Why won’t you chop down your over inflated salaries to save the TTC money?
😂 ttc нада каму та на баланс поцепить типа спонсорства а то обанкротятся 😂
If you’re taking the ttc you probably can’t afford anything in the city, so forget these guys, get that money from Ukraine
Dude just make it free , inflation is high
Lol, why do you think inflation is so high. Because pudding heads like you don't understand that free means, tax payer funded