Why does Alice kill herself? She didn’t know she would be rescued. She thought she would be a slave to her father’s killer. And she’s basically broken by PTSD.
Magua was going to kill Alice. If I had to choose between getting cut up or jumping off a cliff... I would probably choose the latter. Alice just witnessed Uncas getting very violently slaughtered.
Kinda drove me nuts she couldn't understand why she would choose this way. Like you said she just watched him murdered, her father just died, she's in her mind in a barbaric country not of her upbringing. She has found herself a slave to a group who killed her father, & in her mind will torture or enslave her to a life she doesn't have zero understanding of. About 10 reasons to why going out your own way seems more preferable, especially in her traumatized current state of mind.
@@Thewingkongexchange How did you come to that conclusion? He was walking towards her with a knife. He just violently cut up Uncas. He promised the gray hair he was going to completely wipe out his seed.....
@luvlgs1 I disagree. I think he killed Uncas and had a lust for blood in that moment and decided to finish off Alice too. That's why he started moving toward her and the way the camera showed the knife in his hand while signaling for her to come to him with his other hand. And what do you think he meant when he said he was going to completely wipe out the gray hair's seed? Keep his seed as a slave? No, wipe out means eliminate, kill.
I loved the movie and your commentary. Tha 1992 movie certainly deviates from thr book, and is held back by entire scenes that were edited out and others, which where never filmed. The.directors cur is a about 8 minutes longer, but stillmissing a good 20 minutes. My AP US History teacher suggested thr movie and i so liked it that i read the entire series. Knowing the history helped me appreciate the movie. 1992 was a good year for movies and other great movies did better at fhe Academy Awards.
If you are looking at this period in movies, “Black Robe” is a much better movie. It is drawn from “The Jesuit Relations”, a primary source for the documents from Jesuit priests in the Great Lakes region (mostly Canada) in the early to mid 17th Century.
It's probably already been said somewhere in this comment section but I think the reason why Alice jumps off the cliff wasnt just about her feelings towards Uncas which she clearly had but she had no idea that help was on the way and decided death was better than being sacrificed or whatever Magua had in store for her. Just my take but I think its accurate.
This has always been one of my favorite movies period. Not just the story, the acting and the soundtrack. The costume design and sets really take you back to that time period.. In my opinion.
I think the reason Cora was made the love interest is because Jhodi May's (Alice) mother was on-set and would NOT allow any romantic scenes involving Jhodi. So even as a secondary character, they couldn't develop the love story to any extent with Alice and Uncus. As far as Alice jumping to her death? Yes, it might not have been something Alice-of the-book might have done BUT it was the only choice left for Alice-of the-movie. I think Alice realized that she was not strong enuf to survive what was in store for her and took her fate into her own hands. By the way, normally i hate the "Well, in the book..." crowd. However, i absolutely LOVED this video
Since I haven't seen anyone address it, the general gives Heyward a dirty look because Heyward corrected him. "I THOUGHT British policy was 'Make the world England.'"
Also worth noting that Russel Means as Chingachook was one of the original founders of the AIM movement in the 60s and 70s. One of my uncles was kind of active in AIM back than, he mentions meeting Means at some point in the early 70s. Not sure if he did, my uncle was a notorious bullshitter, but by my Dad's account he was doing stuff with AIM.
Wesley Studi, who played Magua, was also a member of AIM and was at Wounded Knee. I'm not sure a out the other Native Americans and Canadian actors, but I would not be surprised if more were activists.
The photography of the this movie. Could you imagine it if it were filmed originally in 4k? The soundtrack is off the charts good. The native American assigned to them Moqua, Wes Studi.
As an American, you may not see it. Most American films portray the British as clueless and/or pompous and/or incompetent ( right up to WW2, and after ), whereas the heroic colonists are wise, experienced and superior to the British. This implicitly ignores the fact that the colonists WERE British, and the FIW was basically started by one man called George Washington. BTW, your comment that the British "NEVER" learned to deal with native tactics is incorrect. The British army formed specialised units to use similar tactics.
Both sides resorted to what we would consider. Violations of GENEVA CONVENTION. In another words it was a nasty war of attrition and brutality. The French later showed a brother in arms approach when LAFAYETTE reinforced our army at NEW ORLEANS
Thank you! I am descended from members of the Virginia militia that went on the Braddock expedition. None of this is discussed in most history media, although young George may have accidentally kicked off a world war! There is so much revisionism that has covered the things we didn't want to remember.
For real?!?!? Your crush/infatuation or truest love ( lol whatever) has just been murdered trying to save your life and the native American warrior savage of your nightmares wants you to come home and play housewife with him. Nahhhh I’ll take the plunge and afterlife with Uncas.
After the first attack there’s a scene where Uncas is just looking(staring) at Alice and at 12 when I first saw this movie I figured the attraction out from that moment.
The book sucked and was archaic in language. However the main characters Hawthorne created as literary true to life protagonists are the ones that made this film so spectacular.
Just had a chance to see your review for the first time. First, you should definitely review more historical based films.Your commentary and insights about the period were spot on and certainly will provide insights for anyone who has not really bothered to read / gather information about the colonial period. Second, I believe that a short explanation about the defeats the British suffered at the Battle of the Monongahela in 1755, Sir Johnson's expedition, and specific examples to set the historical background. I am just a history buff with a love for the colonial period, particularly along the frontiers, but have read extensively on the subject. I have read the Long Stocking books for the background but do not believe all of the events depicted in them either. Enjoyed your comments and look forward to more historical perspectives from you on popular movies. Maybe as a follow on something about Jim Smith and the Blackboys in PA in 1759 as fictionalized in "Allegheny Uprising" 1939.
I really enjoyed this video. Movie / TV Show reactions is an entire genre of RUclips content. Your approach here is a unique spin. A movie viewer with some sort of academic training or specialty to add context through a reaction. Even if you were a little disappointed, you also did a great job of framing your expectations around the fact that different mediums (books and cinema) are very different and don't always (usually don't) translate perfectly. Ultimately I loved this movie despite some character and plot problems. Michael Mann's direction and visual style, plus Daniel Day Lewis (GOAT actor) , plus the music score ultimately won me over.
lol, I used to work at a talent management agency and had to deal with Alice for a week. I loved the movie character…the real actress (Jodhi May) much less so.
@@historical_usa Ok so they switched sisters. No reason to talk through the entirety of the final scene lol. Really wanted you to take it all in and just go with it. Talk after. On a more serious note, i did enjoy this and learned quite a few things. ty
If you’re such a stickler for accuracy, and you’re a big deal historian, then you could at least show more respect by getting the names right. Hard to pronounce Chingatchgook or Magua? Then listen to the dialogue instead of complaining. The names are said out loud several times throughout.
Too much talking. Left out large parts of the movie. Started review about 10 minutes into the movie then jump to the almost 20 minutes of the movie. What’s the point?
What I enjoyed is that the Native Americans heard the calls while the soldiers were lined up and knew when to duck. I have heard of Native Americans in the South West learning this against the Spanish.
!! This!! I love learning about the little tactics and strategies they picked up on and used in such situations. It’s such an amazing part of history that fascinates me more than anything else.
After 1757 the war turned in favor of the British. British forces defeated the French in India, and in 1759 British armies invaded and conquered Canada. Montcalm was killed at Quebec in 1759. The British won the war and defeated the French, Spanish and Indians. British invaded 90% of the countries in the world and fought local armies everywhere including China, Russia, Africa, and the Middle East. They were good at fighting and winning wars far from home because they adapted. This is an American trope that they were regimented. The American militias were unreliable. George Washington was a colonel in the militia and was a disaster. He retired to his farm in 1758. Men under his command massacred French diplomats in 1754 and started the war, He led the British in 1755 into a trap and General Braddock was killed. This is an American view of history..
I am french canadian and we have the memory here that american idians were considered subjects of the french king, same as native french, as long as: 1) They learned french 2) They accepted Jesus Christ and converted to Catholicism.
The general plot of the 1992 film is more or less an adaption of the 1937 film not so much the novel itself. Last of the Mohicans is similar to a few other book adaptions in that it has been adapted so often the influence of the original text is very secondary to the influence of other films.
Yeah the movie looks interesting, yet of course "have to" change certain parts which is stupid. But what do you expect Lisa? People get to offended to easy instead of caring for the facts of things. It's like the movie of "the patriot" for instance, they still cut out or didn't filmed all the actual real events that happened during the revolutionary war.
Don't know if I overheard you mentioning it but Captain Bougainville (Montcalm's staff officer reading the letter from Webb to Munroe) is Louis Antoine de Bougainville, eventually much more famous as navy officer and explorer.
A story I recently heard was a disgraceful action involving GEORGE WASHINGTON a middle ranking officer who served in the FRENCH INDIAN WARS coldly ordered a FRENCH envoy executed who was supposed to be under wartime protection. I dont know why this happened but it tarnished my image of our founding father and 1st president.
I remember reading these brown biogrphies when i was in elementary school. One was dan morgan. He participated in the french england war then the revolutionary war against england.
Why does she do that? Because the love who tried to save her was just executed, they probably where in love with each other, the emotion was strong and she felt sad and broken because of that. So she felt that she didn't want to live anymore.
the Mohicans were chosen by the whites to be the dominant tribe in trade... UNTIL the Mohicans asked for a bigger cut of the money. At which point he English decided the Iroquois would be better...who then in turn wiped out( for the most part) the Mohicans (beaver wars)
Not trying knock action (I’m from the pool hall), but it’s a novel, not based on historical events?.. There are real people interspersed throughout the story, and events, like the siege… But I’m not sure why we need a historical perspective, here?..
Do you want to go to lake George with me? Im a geologist and historian on this area. Let me know if you in the area and would like to hang out? We could do a tour from William Henery to Ft. Ti. ps. I live 5 min from the oldest homes in the Mohawk Valley, so awesome. Shenectayd stockade 1690 burned by the french etc.
mo never expect the movie to be the same as the book. they are 2 entirely different things, especially when you consider this book. great movie. awful book. listen to twain.
If you get a chance, also check out Maurice Tourneur/Clarence Brown's 1920 'The Last of the Mohicans'. A classic in its own right. A lot of the replotting and recharacterization of 1992 LotM (compared to Cooper's novel) come from the 1936 version of LotM (a pretty good 'popcorn' movie, as well).
47:00 yeah I’m annoyed with you. But fair play, you said you were a stickler for the book. I watched this movie every single day from Christmas (when I got the VHS) until Lent (hardest thing I had to give up… age 12). 😀 Then I read all of the books, multiple times. Except for the Pioneer. Couldn’t get into that one for some reason. Love your detailed info, only real complaint is absolute munchers of the names.
Mistake to read the hook first. This movie was based on the 1930s film . Another RUclips channel called History Buffs, by a Brit, might be valuable because he cuts out the middleman. Does straight film vs. history analysis. Look up Russell Means who plays Chingachgook. He was an important Native American activist and historical hero in his own right. I'm debating whether or not to subscribe. I will like so I can see more. I think reading the book first was a mistake. It made watching the movie through too many filters mislead you. I was a teacher myself and though I was in the English department, the History department made me an honorary member. My specialty was ancient literature,so history was an adjunct discipline.
What I recommend you do is get a hold of Russell Means autobiography. I believe there's a whole chapter on the film. And why he chose to be involved is *because* it's different from the book which he really did not like.
If you're going chronologically, it'll be a while off, but please put The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford on your watchlist. It's a very moody western with a fabulous cast.
@@historical_usathis suggestion is right on, I highly suggest you do check it out, the cinematography is amazing and the movie will soon be a cult classic…:) Don’t know if you care for Brad Pitt or not but he said that it was his favorite movie he’s ever made and meant more to him than any other
The first time I watched this I was so looking forward to the turtle clan tattoo reveal scene from the book, and then it wasn't there! I was very disappointed.
32:00. Any reason why you leave out why the native allies of the French felt slighted by what went on and one of the reasons(right or wrong) as to what they proceeded to do?
I saw an interview (which I now cannot find) in which Michael Mann talked at length about LotM. He said that they based the script on a previously written movie script from - I think - about 1930. Undoubtedly he would have read the novel too, and I would also think that the deviations made are absolutely necessary for the length and format required. I understand your annoyance, much like Steven King with The Shining.
One of my top 20 movies. Alice didn't know she was going to be rescued...i never thought she jumped for love or weakness. Other cultures aren't sensitive to me so I'm not sensitive to them. There aren't a lot of similar shows tbh. Unless you wanna watch hokey westerns.
You should look into the Actor who played Chingachgook, Russal Means. I personally see him a real American Hero. A Lakota Sioux and founding member of AIM.
How were the Indians able to go into the French fort and kill/rob the wounded British prisoners without the knowledge/permission of the French commanding the fort?
If you’re going to deep dive the American Revolution, I urge you to review a golden age classic: ’Drums Along the Mohawk’(1939) with a young Henry Fonda and Claudette Colbert, two major stars of the era.
Just a comment regarding the early ambush scene. The troops involved are the 60th, as mentioned by the character Webb earlier to Duncan. The 60th’s title was The Royal Americans. The regiment were recruited from the colonial population.
Alice kills herself because she can’t imagine a life with Magua. She had no idea help was coming 💔
Why does Alice kill herself? She didn’t know she would be rescued. She thought she would be a slave to her father’s killer. And she’s basically broken by PTSD.
“Stay Alive No Matter What Occurs, I Will Find You…” 🥺
Magua was going to kill Alice. If I had to choose between getting cut up or jumping off a cliff... I would probably choose the latter. Alice just witnessed Uncas getting very violently slaughtered.
Kinda drove me nuts she couldn't understand why she would choose this way. Like you said she just watched him murdered, her father just died, she's in her mind in a barbaric country not of her upbringing. She has found herself a slave to a group who killed her father, & in her mind will torture or enslave her to a life she doesn't have zero understanding of. About 10 reasons to why going out your own way seems more preferable, especially in her traumatized current state of mind.
I genuinely read it as Magua, having seen so much death, decided to spare Alice (being a father himself).
@@Thewingkongexchange How did you come to that conclusion? He was walking towards her with a knife. He just violently cut up Uncas. He promised the gray hair he was going to completely wipe out his seed.....
no. he wasn't going to kill her. she was going to be his wife, or another one of his slaves. same thing really...
@luvlgs1 I disagree. I think he killed Uncas and had a lust for blood in that moment and decided to finish off Alice too. That's why he started moving toward her and the way the camera showed the knife in his hand while signaling for her to come to him with his other hand. And what do you think he meant when he said he was going to completely wipe out the gray hair's seed? Keep his seed as a slave? No, wipe out means eliminate, kill.
An amazing film, regardless of the book. And that last 15 minutes is among the best sequences in film.
My favourite movie ever
I loved the movie and your commentary. Tha 1992 movie certainly deviates from thr book, and is held back by entire scenes that were edited out and others, which where never filmed. The.directors cur is a about 8 minutes longer, but stillmissing a good 20 minutes.
My AP US History teacher suggested thr movie and i so liked it that i read the entire series. Knowing the history helped me appreciate the movie. 1992 was a good year for movies and other great movies did better at fhe Academy Awards.
totally agree! 1992 was a great year for historical films.
If you are looking at this period in movies, “Black Robe” is a much better movie. It is drawn from “The Jesuit Relations”, a primary source for the documents from Jesuit priests in the Great Lakes region (mostly Canada) in the early to mid 17th Century.
"Black Robe", "Last of the Mohicans", "A New World" and "Jeremiah Johnson". Four excellent movies.
As a human woman with this soundtrack with the scenery, you can't not like this. lol
How do you know it's not worth it?
The book is fiction
Great story: Wes Studi (Magua) wore his character’s costume into a public elevator once and terrified people. Lmao
That would have been awesome to see lol
Wes Studi could be terrifying in a potato sack!
Silly people 🙄
It's probably already been said somewhere in this comment section but I think the reason why Alice jumps off the cliff wasnt just about her feelings towards Uncas which she clearly had but she had no idea that help was on the way and decided death was better than being sacrificed or whatever Magua had in store for her. Just my take but I think its accurate.
One of the best movie soundtrack ever
Agreed!
John Williams’ best. Amazing. edit: Williams had nothing to do w/the score
@@The_ZeroLine last of the mohicans soundtrack is Hans Zimmer
@@marcusfridh8489nope. Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman were the composers. Google it.
Except that it was Trevor Jones & Randy Edelman.
This has always been one of my favorite movies period. Not just the story, the acting and the soundtrack. The costume design and sets really take you back to that time period.. In my opinion.
Bet you also like master and commander.
@@mikearey5991 I've never seen it! But I have heard great things about it.
and it shows how badass the natives were. they were effing warriors.
I think the reason Cora was made the love interest is because Jhodi May's (Alice) mother was on-set and would NOT allow any romantic scenes involving Jhodi. So even as a secondary character, they couldn't develop the love story to any extent with Alice and Uncus. As far as Alice jumping to her death? Yes, it might not have been something Alice-of the-book might have done BUT it was the only choice left for Alice-of the-movie. I think Alice realized that she was not strong enuf to survive what was in store for her and took her fate into her own hands. By the way, normally i hate the "Well, in the book..." crowd. However, i absolutely LOVED this video
Wow, it’s surprising that you could not understand why Alice went over the cliff. Very strange indeed.
because it wasn't in the book. i think she lost her way in this reaction
No way this woman is a actual “historian”
Since I haven't seen anyone address it, the general gives Heyward a dirty look because Heyward corrected him. "I THOUGHT British policy was 'Make the world England.'"
I love this movie because I have a huge interest in the French and Indian War and the Seven Years War.
Also worth noting that Russel Means as Chingachook was one of the original founders of the AIM movement in the 60s and 70s. One of my uncles was kind of active in AIM back than, he mentions meeting Means at some point in the early 70s. Not sure if he did, my uncle was a notorious bullshitter, but by my Dad's account he was doing stuff with AIM.
Wesley Studi, who played Magua, was also a member of AIM and was at Wounded Knee. I'm not sure a out the other Native Americans and Canadian actors, but I would not be surprised if more were activists.
The photography of the this movie. Could you imagine it if it were filmed originally in 4k?
The soundtrack is off the charts good.
The native American assigned to them Moqua, Wes Studi.
It would be absolutely stunning if they filmed it today!
As an American, you may not see it. Most American films portray the British as clueless and/or pompous and/or incompetent ( right up to WW2, and after ), whereas the heroic colonists are wise, experienced and superior to the British. This implicitly ignores the fact that the colonists WERE British, and the FIW was basically started by one man called George Washington. BTW, your comment that the British "NEVER" learned to deal with native tactics is incorrect. The British army formed specialised units to use similar tactics.
Both sides resorted to what we would consider. Violations of GENEVA CONVENTION. In another words it was a nasty war of attrition and brutality. The French later showed a brother in arms approach when LAFAYETTE reinforced our army at NEW ORLEANS
Thank you! I am descended from members of the Virginia militia that went on the Braddock expedition. None of this is discussed in most history media, although young George may have accidentally kicked off a world war! There is so much revisionism that has covered the things we didn't want to remember.
Rogers' Rangers come to mind.
Great comment!
For real?!?!?
Your crush/infatuation or truest love ( lol whatever) has just been murdered trying to save your life and the native American warrior savage of your nightmares wants you to come home and play housewife with him. Nahhhh I’ll take the plunge and afterlife with Uncas.
You didn’t just butcher it. You committed a war crime. 😂
After the first attack there’s a scene where Uncas is just looking(staring) at Alice and at 12 when I first saw this movie I figured the attraction out from that moment.
I thought the movie was great and thought the book was great.
It really didn't bother me at all that they weren't the same.
The book sucked and was archaic in language. However the main characters Hawthorne created as literary true to life protagonists are the ones that made this film so spectacular.
Just had a chance to see your review for the first time. First, you should definitely review more historical based films.Your commentary and insights about the period were spot on and certainly will provide insights for anyone who has not really bothered to read / gather information about the colonial period. Second, I believe that a short explanation about the defeats the British suffered at the Battle of the Monongahela in 1755, Sir Johnson's expedition, and specific examples to set the historical background. I am just a history buff with a love for the colonial period, particularly along the frontiers, but have read extensively on the subject. I have read the Long Stocking books for the background but do not believe all of the events depicted in them either. Enjoyed your comments and look forward to more historical perspectives from you on popular movies. Maybe as a follow on something about Jim Smith and the Blackboys in PA in 1759 as fictionalized in "Allegheny Uprising" 1939.
Thank you! I look forward to doing more of these!
FYI - This soundtrack is tremendous as an album. I have it on CD, have had it since the movie came out. It's terrific.
I agree!
I really enjoyed this video. Movie / TV Show reactions is an entire genre of RUclips content. Your approach here is a unique spin. A movie viewer with some sort of academic training or specialty to add context through a reaction.
Even if you were a little disappointed, you also did a great job of framing your expectations around the fact that different mediums (books and cinema) are very different and don't always (usually don't) translate perfectly.
Ultimately I loved this movie despite some character and plot problems. Michael Mann's direction and visual style, plus Daniel Day Lewis (GOAT actor) , plus the music score ultimately won me over.
thank you so much! I would love to do more of these types of videos.
@historical_usa . Keep up the good work(s) ..much love to you beautiful honey
If you please:
"Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" (2003)
"Agora" (2009)
"Jeremiah Johnson" (1972)
Agora, most likely the less historically accurate movie ever, Mel Brook's History of the World is way more correct
@@JulioLeonFandinho
apparently you didn't see john wayne as genghis khan....
I'd think that a log cabin could burn and smolder for daaayssss, depending on what's inside. Lamp oil, lard, powder, liquor...blankets ect ect
More likely it would burn to ash.
@@tudyk21 possibly.
All kinds of factors. Wind humidity rain , how dry the cabin is, kind of wood ....
Not exactly historical, but you may enjoy a more lighthearted reaction to Almost Heroes, a comedy about a parallel expedition to Lewis & Clark
Loved this! Especially your reaction to Alice's fate. I knew what was coming, but dang, you were NOT prepared. Lol
I was NOT prepared. That came out of nowhere.
lol, I used to work at a talent management agency and had to deal with Alice for a week. I loved the movie character…the real actress (Jodhi May) much less so.
@@historical_usa Ok so they switched sisters. No reason to talk through the entirety of the final scene lol. Really wanted you to take it all in and just go with it. Talk after.
On a more serious note, i did enjoy this and learned quite a few things. ty
Great reaction. Please do a historical review for Civil War film, GLORY (1989) sometime.
Like you, I read the book first and then saw the movie. Enjoyed them both for what they were :)
one of my favorite movies, about a time you don't see depicted often. Drums Along the Mohawk is pretty good.
If you’re such a stickler for accuracy, and you’re a big deal historian, then you could at least show more respect by getting the names right. Hard to pronounce Chingatchgook or Magua? Then listen to the dialogue instead of complaining. The names are said out loud several times throughout.
Thanks for bringing up coopers novels. They are great. Reading 19th century novels is kind of tedious, not Iike today's page turners.
I really enjoyed it!
Too much talking. Left out large parts of the movie. Started review about 10 minutes into the movie then jump to the almost 20 minutes of the movie. What’s the point?
Thanks👍
, even negative comments help the algo!😂
Ok I don’t know how accurate it is but I love this movie. If there was a perfect movie then this would be it
one of my favorite movies and soundtrack...
With Alice and Uncas, sometimes all it takes is a look and a hug 🤷.
What I enjoyed is that the Native Americans heard the calls while the soldiers were lined up and knew when to duck. I have heard of Native Americans in the South West learning this against the Spanish.
!! This!! I love learning about the little tactics and strategies they picked up on and used in such situations. It’s such an amazing part of history that fascinates me more than anything else.
if you want to really be pissed. Watch the recent remake of Alls Quiet on the Western Front. a travesty of epic proportion.
@@tekay44 that's to bad! the book is a real masterpiece!
One of my favorite movies. Loved DDL! Great job on the review Lisa!
I feel like this was one of the only few DDL movies I have not seen! He is a fantastic actor.
A movie reaction. Man, that's something.
After 1757 the war turned in favor of the British. British forces defeated the French in India, and in 1759 British armies invaded and conquered Canada. Montcalm was killed at Quebec in 1759. The British won the war and defeated the French, Spanish and Indians. British invaded 90% of the countries in the world and fought local armies everywhere including China, Russia, Africa, and the Middle East. They were good at fighting and winning wars far from home because they adapted. This is an American trope that they were regimented. The American militias were unreliable. George Washington was a colonel in the militia and was a disaster. He retired to his farm in 1758. Men under his command massacred French diplomats in 1754 and started the war, He led the British in 1755 into a trap and General Braddock was killed. This is an American view of history..
Washington redeems himself!😂
I am french canadian and we have the memory here that american idians were considered subjects of the french king, same as native french, as long as:
1) They learned french
2) They accepted Jesus Christ and converted to Catholicism.
How does this translate into the Marvel Universe? lol
I like the movie way better than the book. :)
The general plot of the 1992 film is more or less an adaption of the 1937 film not so much the novel itself. Last of the Mohicans is similar to a few other book adaptions in that it has been adapted so often the influence of the original text is very secondary to the influence of other films.
There are few things more attractive in a woman than intelligence, specifically in history, or cosmology…:) IMHO..:)
And twerking.
Exactly ! You can't put 18th century writing in today's time frame.
Not very culturally sensitive back then.
Yeah the movie looks interesting, yet of course "have to" change certain parts which is stupid. But what do you expect Lisa? People get to offended to easy instead of caring for the facts of things. It's like the movie of "the patriot" for instance, they still cut out or didn't filmed all the actual real events that happened during the revolutionary war.
Check out The Patriot
Don't know if I overheard you mentioning it but Captain Bougainville (Montcalm's staff officer reading the letter from Webb to Munroe) is Louis Antoine de Bougainville, eventually much more famous as navy officer and explorer.
A story I recently heard was a disgraceful action involving GEORGE WASHINGTON a middle ranking officer who served in the FRENCH INDIAN WARS coldly ordered a FRENCH envoy executed who was supposed to be under wartime protection. I dont know why this happened but it tarnished my image of our founding father and 1st president.
Did they name an island after him?
@@tudyk21 I think that was French explorer who named the island after himself if you mean the one near New guinea.
I remember reading these brown biogrphies when i was in elementary school. One was dan morgan. He participated in the french england war then the revolutionary war against england.
You have no idea how epic this movie is. Well lets roll the film.
Why does she do that? Because the love who tried to save her was just executed, they probably where in love with each other, the emotion was strong and she felt sad and broken because of that. So she felt that she didn't want to live anymore.
the Mohicans were chosen by the whites to be the dominant tribe in trade... UNTIL the Mohicans asked for a bigger cut of the money. At which point he English decided the Iroquois would be better...who then in turn wiped out( for the most part) the Mohicans (beaver wars)
Not trying knock action (I’m from the pool hall), but it’s a novel, not based on historical events?.. There are real people interspersed throughout the story, and events, like the siege… But I’m not sure why we need a historical perspective, here?..
Do you want to go to lake George with me? Im a geologist and historian on this area. Let me know if you in the area and would like to hang out? We could do a tour from William Henery to Ft. Ti. ps. I live 5 min from the oldest homes in the Mohawk Valley, so awesome. Shenectayd stockade 1690 burned by the french etc.
mo
never expect the movie to be the same as the book. they are 2 entirely different things, especially when you consider this book. great movie. awful book. listen to twain.
I’ve actually walked this trail in Asheville N.C. Its breathtaking. But if you don’t like heights……
If you get a chance, also check out Maurice Tourneur/Clarence Brown's 1920 'The Last of the Mohicans'. A classic in its own right.
A lot of the replotting and recharacterization of 1992 LotM (compared to Cooper's novel) come from the 1936 version of LotM (a pretty good 'popcorn' movie, as well).
Glad the natives fought against the invasion in every way possible. 🥺
47:00 yeah I’m annoyed with you. But fair play, you said you were a stickler for the book. I watched this movie every single day from Christmas (when I got the VHS) until Lent (hardest thing I had to give up… age 12). 😀 Then I read all of the books, multiple times. Except for the Pioneer. Couldn’t get into that one for some reason. Love your detailed info, only real complaint is absolute munchers of the names.
Mistake to read the hook first. This movie was based on the 1930s film . Another RUclips channel called History Buffs, by a Brit, might be valuable because he cuts out the middleman. Does straight film vs. history analysis.
Look up Russell Means who plays Chingachgook. He was an important Native American activist and historical hero in his own right.
I'm debating whether or not to subscribe. I will like so I can see more. I think reading the book first was a mistake. It made watching the movie through too many filters mislead you.
I was a teacher myself and though I was in the English department, the History department made me an honorary member. My specialty was ancient literature,so history was an adjunct discipline.
ummm there was no such thing as a MOHICAN TRIBE... I think there was a mahecan tribe BUT IM NOT SURE (correct me on that)
What I recommend you do is get a hold of Russell Means autobiography. I believe there's a whole chapter on the film. And why he chose to be involved is *because* it's different from the book which he really did not like.
If you're going chronologically, it'll be a while off, but please put The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford on your watchlist. It's a very moody western with a fabulous cast.
Sounds interesting!
@@historical_usathis suggestion is right on, I highly suggest you do check it out, the cinematography is amazing and the movie will soon be a cult classic…:) Don’t know if you care for Brad Pitt or not but he said that it was his favorite movie he’s ever made and meant more to him than any other
Wait, you're not famous. But you're wearing red lipstick. I thought you had to be famous to do that. Hmm. I need to re-think my entire paradigm.
The first time I watched this I was so looking forward to the turtle clan tattoo reveal scene from the book, and then it wasn't there! I was very disappointed.
32:00. Any reason why you leave out why the native allies of the French felt slighted by what went on and one of the reasons(right or wrong) as to what they proceeded to do?
The question is not "why did she do that?" but what would you have done if you we're her?🤔
I saw an interview (which I now cannot find) in which Michael Mann talked at length about LotM. He said that they based the script on a previously written movie script from - I think - about 1930. Undoubtedly he would have read the novel too, and I would also think that the deviations made are absolutely necessary for the length and format required. I understand your annoyance, much like Steven King with The Shining.
One of my top 20 movies. Alice didn't know she was going to be rescued...i never thought she jumped for love or weakness. Other cultures aren't sensitive to me so I'm not sensitive to them. There aren't a lot of similar shows tbh. Unless you wanna watch hokey westerns.
I just was not expecting it at all! especially because she survives in the book.
Your nails match your lipstick. I am so in over my head.
You should look into the Actor who played Chingachgook, Russal Means. I personally see him a real American Hero. A Lakota Sioux and founding member of AIM.
11:30 Webb outranks Heyward… simple answer
How were the Indians able to go into the French fort and kill/rob the wounded British prisoners without the knowledge/permission of the French commanding the fort?
They may have had permission. 🤷♂️
She also mentioned that the conglomerate natives outnumbered their French allies and may have been uncontrollable.
I’m so glad you watched this. This is one of my favorite historical dramas.
Thanks for watching
I read it when I was ten; part of the reason I went to see this movie.
The 90s was the heyday also for Native American actors.
Absolutely!
I got both this movie and Dances with wolves of dvd. And Wes Studi (Magua) is in both
If you’re going to deep dive the American Revolution, I urge you to review a golden age classic: ’Drums Along the Mohawk’(1939) with a young Henry Fonda and Claudette Colbert, two major stars of the era.
I will give it a look! Thanks!
How dare you have a degree is history! lol
Alice was opposing Magua
You will like this movie, I think.
Also my assessment from the book.
Check out a movie called "Black Robe".
I was thinking about reviewing that one next.
@@historical_usa might be difficult to find as it’s from the era of VHS…
I also love Twain.
Manifest Destiny !
Bingo!
This was a good idea.
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very deep knowledge about history you have! My respect
Thank you!
Just a comment regarding the early ambush scene. The troops involved are the 60th, as mentioned by the character Webb earlier to Duncan. The 60th’s title was The Royal Americans. The regiment were recruited from the colonial population.
You said to mention other movies and not sure if it fits your requirements, but I'd recommend The Patriot with Mel Gibson - Heath Ledger.
I think it was Huron and Ottawa alonv with a few others from smaller tribes who attacked the British and Mohawk if im not mistaken
Was required reading in GRADESCOOL when I went.
One thing I do know is that the Mohicans are not gone the are here in Wisconsin on the Stockbridge reservation.