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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2023
  • Ever wonder what it takes to put together the RVs we all love? Join RV pro Mike Drudge as he gets inside access to the Jayco RV Factory in Middlebury, IN!
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Комментарии • 261

  • @pspD1
    @pspD1 Год назад +35

    As a third generation custom home builder with over 30 years of experience and for the last 5 years manufacturing wall panels and Modular building structures... I am truly surprised at how poorly these things are built. The lumber they use looks like we would scrap. If these guys are the best, I truly do not want to see the worst.
    I do appreciate the detail in the video tho. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
    Cheers

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback. It's a balance of quality, price point and efficiency. My experience, long before I worked in the RV industry, was that Jayco has been ahead of the curve in quality and culture. After visiting the plant, even more so. Thanks for watching.

    • @medic2834
      @medic2834 6 месяцев назад

      Have you seen all the failures of the Jayco product on youtube? and lack of resolution at the dealer level?@@VogtRVWorld

    • @benjaminbontrager3409
      @benjaminbontrager3409 3 месяца назад +2

      These guys are far far from the best

    • @jonwillett7351
      @jonwillett7351 12 часов назад

      If Jayco is the best the industry has to offer then it's a representation of how truly poor the quality is on all of these things.

  • @bobstaurovsky3506
    @bobstaurovsky3506 Год назад +11

    If I was a lot younger, I would start my own trailer manufacturing company, I would build a trailer that you would be proud to own and use !!!

  • @rvadventures
    @rvadventures Год назад +58

    As a full time traveler I believe that everyone of these manufacturers build cheap, cut corners,use less than quality products and let's not forget the poor quality paint used on the frames. For what these cost they should stack up to the price.

    • @sbrunner69
      @sbrunner69 Год назад +9

      Agreed. Check the blatant split at 14:30 and they used it anyway. Rubbish.

    • @richardkoch8752
      @richardkoch8752 Год назад +15

      @@sbrunner69 Some of the wood shown is only good for dog houses and camp fires.

    • @pierre-rose7783
      @pierre-rose7783 Год назад +6

      Absolutely agree ! I don't know about Jayco, but I heard that thin guage metals are used for the chassis and a lot of them are prone to rust ! The prices are absolutely outrageous !

    • @brianrichie5929
      @brianrichie5929 Год назад +9

      Totally agree 26,000 bucks for a Jayco card board box that only took 1 day to ho from a dream to a nightmare now its 4 years old and worth maybe 2000 I have 40 years experience building houses and steel buildings it's falling apart faster than I can fix it I feel like a fool for wasting my hard earned savings on there is no way to describe with words how could anybody with a conscious at the end of the day feel good about what they do they get away with it I guess because there are plenty of people like me that are honest with pride and honor it what they do and want to belive that thst the guy looking you in the eye while shaking your hand is the same way ment to say I agree and all this just pored out

    • @benm2116
      @benm2116 Год назад

      @@sbrunner69 lol that’s hilarious!

  • @wubaru
    @wubaru 10 месяцев назад +8

    Videos like help remind me that i will be tent camping for the rest of my life lol.

    • @flyboyu777
      @flyboyu777 Месяц назад

      Nothing better than sleeping in a tent when you are old and cobbled up.

  • @0TransAtlantic0
    @0TransAtlantic0 Год назад +39

    I found it interesting when you made the point of not using staples in the construction of the cabinet frames to make them sturdier. Yet in every scene in the video showing bare frames, they are all stapled. It was also interesting to see the extremely poor quality wood used in the frames, and especially in the roof trusses you seem to be very excited about. Those 2x3s they are using to build those trusses have no strength when oriented on the flat side, like the trusses shown in this video. And the excessive amount of checking & cracking will only serve to weaken an already poorly designed structure. One other item of note in this video, none of the wood used throughout the units seems to have any attempt at sealing it to prevent rot. Water infiltration is inevitable in any RV. But it does not seem like Jayco really makes much, if any effort to waterproof anything.
    I'm not saying that any of the other manufacturers do any better, in fact I've visited at least one factory that I'm embarrassed to ever admit I was there after seeing just how bad the material & workmanship is. But I'm certainly not seeing anything in this video that would lead me to believe that Jayco is doing a better job than any of the other, reputable manufacturers.
    On a side note, a former employer of mine purchased a new & very, very expensive Jayco 5th wheel. In the two years since he purchased the trailer, it has spent more time at the dealership getting repair work than it has in his possession. His biggest problem, slide-outs that constantly malfunction. Not just occasionally, virtually every second or third time using one.
    Considering he paid more for that trailer than most people will ever pay for a house, I've never seen such deplorable build quality on the inside. There are many instances of misaligned furniture & trim. Cabinet doors that don't close properly, drawers that are so stiff you can barely move them. The shower pan is raised up from the floor one side, and Jayco's solution was to just increase the bead of caulk from one side to the other (the bead is approximately 1/16" on one side to almost 1/2" on the other).
    Unfortunately, poorly built RVs are the norm, and not the exception. It's just the nature of the industry.

    • @mattkaminski6618
      @mattkaminski6618 Год назад +3

      Our unit, a 2021 26RK, the kitchen cabinets have been assembled with a combination of methods. The biggest issue is the low quality MDF they used in the construction. In our sticks and bricks house, we had a flood in the master bath a few years ago where the builders grade, vinyl wrapped vanity cabinet was soaked in water, the drawers completely flooded. This remained for hours in water. We got it dried out and it showed NO signs of damage. No swelling, no peeling of the vinyl, NO damage. Once again, that was in our sticks and bricks. In our White Hawk 26RK kitchen, a small leak from the sink p-trap and a small leak from a cracked water pump sediment filter caused significant swelling damage and the vinyl to peel off large sections of the kitchen cabinets. This was with MINIMAL water exposure. Now I get to rebuild the kitchen cabinets.
      Honestly, this is just the latest in the long list of issues we have had with this rig. Not sure any of the others are built any better but I damn well know that Jayco hasn't provided us with much fun over the first year and a half of ownership.

  • @Maltmeister1
    @Maltmeister1 3 месяца назад +4

    I watched a previous video on the build of jaycos and they pride themselves in how fast they build a unit in less then 6 hours,the entire RV industry needs a complete investigation especially through the covid era.

  • @davidmccrory2115
    @davidmccrory2115 Год назад +5

    I bought a new 2018 Jayco Hummingbird and loved it. However, it leaked water from day one. Fortunately, I my dealer was within 5 miles of my home because I took it back multiple times to get the leak corrected. They would apply some ProFlex here and there, run a yard sprinkler on it for 30 minutes and call it done. I actually found one defect that was causing a water issue. They cut the lower refrigerator vent flush with the floor instead of an inch lower like I found other campers to be and was told was proper. That creates a lip to stop water but mine, being flush to the floor allowed water to enter under the refrigerator. I corrected that issue but that wasn’t the main leak. Eventually, I had mildew on the seat cushion bottoms. I continued to return my unit to my dealer until, 3 months prior to my 2 year warranty expiring, Jayco notified my dealer that they would no longer pay any warranty work on my unit. I was stuck! I couldn’t sell it due to the mildew issue and evident water stains in the cabin, so I traded it to another camper dealer at a loss just to get rid of my problem. Now, for 2 1/2 years, I have an amazingly well built camper that has never leaked! Never again, Jayco! Never again!

  • @kimnelson3130
    @kimnelson3130 Год назад +6

    It's really great they are made so strong and so can give a 10yr full guarantee. No rusty screws , no loose tanks, not rotten floor boards, no doors falling off

    • @MARGANK
      @MARGANK Год назад

      @@thelonewolf666 yea i worked as a rv tech and the craftsmanship isnt great.

  • @doubledreamteam6298
    @doubledreamteam6298 3 месяца назад

    Interesting video. We just bought a 2024 Jayco Jay Flight 235MBHW in February. Our first RV was a Keystone Hideout and we learned so much about preventive maintenance and addressing the small things to keep our RV ready for camping and road worthy. The first thing I did with our Jayco upon purchase was complete a thorough inspection of the interior and exterior of the RV. I found two screw heads stripped off, several screws stripped, the top exterior slide out seal pulled off the exterior wall (by the way it is stapled on), the top interior slide out seal pulled away from the wall, the top interior wall panel was cut out leaving a huge gap between the wall panel and top of the slide out, a piece of trim missing on the slide, the furnace not screwed/bolted to the floor, furnace fan blade cracked, the slidebox not evenly centered for the exterior seals to make a proper seal along the sides of the slide out, and the rear stabilizing jack screws mounted directly into the sewage hose storage bumper which protruded up into the storage bumper and would not allow the hose to be stored, (I figured this out when I tried to store the hose, it jammed and when I pulled to try to remove it, it ripped the end connector off the hose). And...our RV Go Power Solar Charge controller was wired incorrectly. Since the end of March, our RV has been sitting at the dealership awaiting for parts from Jayco (today is May 10). By the way we were informed a few weeks ago that the parts were shipped to Minnesota and had to be rerouted to our location. This RV was not an impulsive buy, but one that we believed was the right fit for our family. We were shopping for an RV for 5-6 months and found this one and really liked what we saw. We looked at reviews, the Jayco website and compared this RV to other competitors. We decided on this one for many reasons. We made a 370 mile round trip to pick this one up and return to our home. We are disappointed that our RV left the Jayco plant in this condition. I'm glad we have a 2+3 from Jayco understanding that issues do arise, but we believe these discrepancies should have been identified and repaired prior to shipment to dealer. After all repairs are completed, our hope is we will enjoy our Jayco and it will serve many great family memories throughout the years as our children grow.

  • @braddennis9669
    @braddennis9669 Год назад +21

    I own a 264BH that I bought January 11th this year. The wall in the bathroom is bad out of square to the point that the door doesn't fit the frame right. It's so obvious that even the owner at the dealership commented on it and said fix it now. They made an appointment for February 27th to bring it in. Why do I now own a travel trailer that I can't use or even put my gear into for 6 weeks or longer? I feel like it should have been a top priority or even returned to the factory for repairs. My first impression with Jayco is not good at all!

    • @jason27swg
      @jason27swg Год назад +1

      It's the amish quality he spoke about

    • @richardkoch8752
      @richardkoch8752 Год назад +3

      @@jason27swg In my area they do roofing, barn building and demolish. You never see them in home remodeling or new home construction. Not intended to put the Amish down....they're great people.

    • @chevyvanngoghandfriends
      @chevyvanngoghandfriends Год назад

      ha..buy a used one..

    • @thardyryll
      @thardyryll Год назад

      And you got a good one.

    • @chevyvanngoghandfriends
      @chevyvanngoghandfriends Год назад

      @@thardyryll..yes..1999 safari trek 2430..aluminum construction..home quality cabinets and it’s on a very reliable chassis..these things always need something..but yes..i have one of the better ones according to past performance and quality

  • @jerrytalley802
    @jerrytalley802 Год назад +3

    I’ve looked at so many trailers, every manufacturer, came right back to Jayco. I think we’re setting our sights on the Jayflight 263 RBS, thanks

    • @slvrdragn
      @slvrdragn 11 месяцев назад

      I bought a 2023 263RBS, very happy

    • @Nbragg07
      @Nbragg07 6 месяцев назад

      Fun Fact, the 263RBS is what was being built during this video!

  • @chipeymann
    @chipeymann Год назад +4

    Thanks for the video Great walk through

  • @davesherman74
    @davesherman74 Год назад +7

    Interesting, they are built a little sturdier than I gave them credit for. Good point that they have to tolerate high winds and lots of vibration and bumps along the road. We just replaced our old popup with a 2023 travel trailer and was surprised that it has the on-demand water heater that was new for this year. Not sure I like it very much. My gripe is that it doesn't make it easy to conserve water when showering. You have to wait for it to light up, heat the water, and get the hot water to the other end of the unit where the shower is. If you then turn off the water to wash up, it shuts off. Then you turn the water on again, you get still-warm water, but then you get a burst of cold water and you're waiting again for it to warm up again.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Good points, Dave. Not sure which brand of water heater you got, but the Furrion 60k that Jayco installs has a 1L mixing reservoir that helps maintain a constant temp. Some units, depending the install, also have a recirculating function whereby the water is instantly hot at the faucet location when turning on.

    • @richardkoch8752
      @richardkoch8752 Год назад +2

      Wish they would use the system used in Geo Pro's that shows when the water is hot at the shower and diverts the warming water back to the fresh water tank.

  • @johnroberts2444
    @johnroberts2444 5 месяцев назад

    These Jayco camp trailers are beautiful looking, thanks for showing us how these trailers are built my friend !!! 👍😊

  • @rvduo8128
    @rvduo8128 Год назад +2

    I’m glad i ggot a pre-pandemic build grand design 2020. Prayers are with anyone with a newer cobbled together rv with supply chain parts from whereever and mismatched.

    • @CurtisBowers
      @CurtisBowers Год назад

      I have a COVID built 2022 Jayco Greyhawk 30Z and I keep fighting all their lack of quality issues. Water heater tank installed on top of rubber gas line. Over time it collapsed causing low gas flow. Jayco said it was my fault for the lack of maintenance. The bedroom slide is not chaulked properly and leaks water into the camper. Outside trim pieces are coming loose. The water hose connection to the back of the toilet was loose and leaking water.

    • @WilleJamesHuff
      @WilleJamesHuff 8 дней назад

      I’ve had two Rv repair guys tell me they wouldn’t buy anything after 2019. And to keep my 02 fleetwood as long as I could.

  • @christar7849
    @christar7849 Год назад +6

    Great video. Really enjoyed it. We love our 22 Jay Flight! We went with Jayco for all of the reasons you mentioned in this video and so far we are not disappointed.

    • @brianshaver2196
      @brianshaver2196 Год назад

      @Mike Drudge As I am a Jayco dealer for 40 almost years, I can say you've done a excellent job with this video.
      My family dealership has been with Jayco since 1969.
      There are so, so many features and benefits to all of Jayco products vs the competition and you've covered almost all of them.
      Great job!!

  • @BeckyNeilsen
    @BeckyNeilsen Год назад +3

    I appreciate this look at how they are made. I am on my fourth Jayco and am very happy with the brand.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback, Becky

    • @skitzo1018
      @skitzo1018 Год назад

      Why would u be on ur forth then if its so good?

    • @BeckyNeilsen
      @BeckyNeilsen Год назад

      @@skitzo1018 Simply because I sized up after realizing that I needed a different floor plan.

    • @BishimDeja
      @BishimDeja Год назад

      @@skitzo1018 I was about to ask the same thing. Going through 4 is crazy. I’m wondering, do they not last or what lol

    • @skitzo1018
      @skitzo1018 Год назад

      @@BishimDeja yh I think 1 should last at least 20 years with proper maintenance. We should totally get a rv and travel together

  • @REL3712
    @REL3712 Год назад +6

    Absolutely love the behind the scenes look at the build process, workmanship, & material makeup that goes into these RVs. I'm on my 3rd Jayco (currently own a NP 310rlts) and have been extremely satisfied with each one. I've never considered another make/manufacturer. I've seen several like videos from Josh Winters at Bish's RV. You two are the absolute best at presenting factory & RV tours. FANTASTIC job!

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +2

      Thank you for your kind words, Bob and thanks for watching!

  • @scottelwood8746
    @scottelwood8746 Год назад +1

    Thanks Mike for the tour. 👍👍

  • @scottelwood8746
    @scottelwood8746 Год назад +3

    Big 👍 video. Thanks

  • @paulcasarez404
    @paulcasarez404 7 месяцев назад

    We RV technicians who's been in the RV industry for 30 years + have to rebuild most of the Manufacturers screw ups we rebuild slid outs roofs floors and ceilings even bent frames around the holding tanks

  • @kaylemoczygemba1488
    @kaylemoczygemba1488 Год назад +2

    Our salesman, Wade in Selma Texas, has told us over and over about Jayco's build quality.. Your video takes it to the next level! Grateful for both you and Wade!

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Thanks for watching, Kayle

    • @thardyryll
      @thardyryll Год назад

      I have heard very few salesmen say, “To be honest, what I am selling here is crap.” That’s why they call them salesmen…

    • @kaylemoczygemba1488
      @kaylemoczygemba1488 Год назад

      @@thardyryll I totally understand (looking at you car dealerships) however our salesman Wade and @JoshtheRVNerd are different and I really appreciate and value that. For example, check out ruclips.net/p/PLUT5NkY-l88zsqkVJSoDXDyOoRSSAVnXf

  • @tomrunning357
    @tomrunning357 Месяц назад

    Just stopped by a Jayco dealer after seeing this video as it gives a sense of a quality build. Stepped inside some 2024 models only to find paneling bowing and popping off some walls, window trim pulling away and just poor interior finish and fit. Exterior quality looks good. Whether the Amish or zippy the chimp are building these they are only as good as the company standards.

  • @Damian_Creates
    @Damian_Creates Год назад

    I worked at quality control for a couple years for keystone, it’s kinda cool to watch people talk about how these things are made

  • @markschneberger5521
    @markschneberger5521 Год назад +1

    I have a 2020 Jayco 34RSBS. Really enjoy it.

  • @donmcdaniel2863
    @donmcdaniel2863 Год назад +2

    Enjoyed the video, and read many of the comments. I enjoyed the fact that you showed the material and construction. As a person that has worked around construction, I also have questions about somethings.
    However customers dictate how things are built and price range. I do believe there is a need for different price ranges for different quantities.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Agreed, Don. Appreciate your balanced thoughts. Thanks for watching

  • @richardkoch8752
    @richardkoch8752 Год назад +3

    Aluminum frames are not as strong as stick built trailers.....if quality lumber is used. Some of the wood I saw being used looks like it was reclaimed from a Home Depot dumpster. The aluminum frames are only as good as the welds......most of the welds I've seen look like tack welds instead of nice flows.

  • @erod6214
    @erod6214 Год назад +7

    Recently saw a new Pinnacle and it was junk, So many issues and broken pieces in all areas of the rv. My perception of the brand changed instantly

  • @Heysarge99
    @Heysarge99 Год назад +7

    What an awesome video! Thank you!
    One question because I am just curious, how come your integrated A-Frame isn't cut at a 45 to be able to be directly welded to the side of the frame? Thanks, cheers

    • @seanleonard2912
      @seanleonard2912 Год назад +2

      The cleat is weaker than frame to frame welding.

    • @davidm2645
      @davidm2645 Год назад +1

      I noticed that as well. They welded a little piece of metal to the main frame and the A-frame piece - to be honest that has virtually no structural integrity.

  • @blkpopeye
    @blkpopeye 5 месяцев назад

    I see just like building a car or truck there is a lot of science in making these vehicles.

  • @rrrrkoop2776
    @rrrrkoop2776 Год назад +1

    Mike: great video really.

  • @jeffconley819
    @jeffconley819 Год назад +7

    What I noticed on those roof trusses was a number of them were split in several locations. How did that pass QC

  • @robertsmith8162
    @robertsmith8162 Год назад

    Super nice video thank you for spending the time to make it you are giving us all a lot of information. Thanks again

  • @r.o.9356
    @r.o.9356 Год назад +2

    I’m not rich! but so far so good! I looked at others and some are worse! So for now I’m happy with my jayco, had it for 4mo and for now very very peaty issues!👍 so I don’t know if spending more would be worth it? 🤔

  • @justonebeliever
    @justonebeliever 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! I really appreciate all the detail you put into this.

  • @moefoh96
    @moefoh96 Год назад +6

    The Amish don't mess around with their work. Super serious about what they make. I would get a Jayco just from knowing that right now,never knew it before.

    • @knucklesandwich8786
      @knucklesandwich8786 Год назад +3

      Don’t fool yourself.

    • @moefoh96
      @moefoh96 Год назад

      @@knucklesandwich8786 . Explain.

    • @knucklesandwich8786
      @knucklesandwich8786 Год назад

      @@moefoh96 do some research, you will see. Jayco Amish “assemble” stuff. They don’t build anything. There is a difference. They leak like sieves also

    • @moefoh96
      @moefoh96 Год назад

      @@knucklesandwich8786. Ok,thanks. I'm looking into getting my first couple's trailer. All I have to go on are reviews and these videos. It's a lot of information and anyone will say anything. Would you know of a good used trailer in the 20 ft. range that's not more than three years old.

    • @knucklesandwich8786
      @knucklesandwich8786 Год назад +1

      @@moefoh96 not really, would recommend checking them out after a good rain though. The roof is the weak point on all rvs. Good luck. ORV trailers are built solid. Little pricey but good. Mostly on west coast.

  • @toddpressman5634
    @toddpressman5634 Год назад +1

    Great video of the plant and build.

  • @axelzilm778
    @axelzilm778 Год назад +2

    Hi there jayco why and not only you guys but everyone using wood for framing are you not treating the wood ? I've dealt with this Oversight for 40 yrs , every one of my RVs 6 of them have had wood rot from water , so when I repair them I treat the lumber with a preservative and regularly check and maintain the seams , I've never bought a new unit but as a tradesman builder that was the first issue that I addressed , my first year apprentices prep and seal all my wood , just an observation!

  • @drevildog1
    @drevildog1 Год назад +1

    Of course not showing up while the staff is working on them. So you don't see them rush the production. Lino not wrapped around the edges, And most unit do use galvanized steel sheets around the wheel well. Bragging that the furniture is not stapled together, but screwed together. But the shower base is stapled together.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Eric, many of the workers in the plant are Amish who prefer to not be photographed, so I was happy to oblige that request. Thanks for watching

  • @sanfranciscobay
    @sanfranciscobay Год назад +5

    The biggest problem with RV's is that they try to give you so much for so little, that they end up building cheaply built RV's. Better to build smaller quality products than larger inferior products.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      With all manufacturers, It's a balance between quality, cost, and weight considerations.

  • @darrenmcguire2961
    @darrenmcguire2961 Год назад +1

    If I was ever to buy a travel trailer, after watching this video, it would be a jayco.

  • @EdwardRagin
    @EdwardRagin Год назад +1

    Glad to see Jayco has improved as i had one in the early 2000's that was not so good in quality

  • @michaelralls2498
    @michaelralls2498 7 месяцев назад

    Winnebago builds and installs from a mezzanine also. I worked there in 03'.

  • @christianxbolt
    @christianxbolt Год назад +2

    One thing I'd like to see the connection for all the waterline jayco would use brass instead of plastic

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Copy that. Brass is a superior connector.

  • @lukesplanet
    @lukesplanet 3 месяца назад

    This is really cool. My wife is not on board with RV or really camping. I am about to just buy one buts its scary as I hear A LOT of maintenance issues, leaks, things failing, etc

  • @tmtex
    @tmtex Год назад +2

    Alot of bad comments on Jayco's. My 2021 , purchased in 2020(non covid purchase) has been flawless so far. 7500+/- miles. Want to go 5th wheel but kinda scared of the covid quality of all of them.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Thank you Tom. Interesting about negative vs. positive comments for *any* brand. When my wife and I were shopping RV's a few years ago, I was surprise to find many negative comments on some brands that are universally accepted as the best brands for reliability and brand quality. I realized that if folks have an issue, they are quick to point it out and tell the world. On the other hand, few people well tend to say "hey my unit has been awesome. No issues!". It's human nature, I suppose. In any case, thanks for your comments!

  • @scottkaercher1733
    @scottkaercher1733 4 месяца назад

    They've been welding those frames like that for years. I use to weld those frames and every frame other companies build on are welded like that. The only frames that weld their tongues on the bottom of the frame are mobile homes cause they have detachable tongues.

  • @stevelarson1236
    @stevelarson1236 Год назад +3

    Nice facility. I like the stated quality checks..... The key is how many units are pushed through in a day? Thanks for the inside look.

  • @glenncoon6639
    @glenncoon6639 Год назад +1

    Thank you I really enjoyed the factory tour through Jayco. I thought the aluminum constructed campers were the best ones. I have a 2008 carriage cameo fifth wheel and it is constructed with the seamless windows and roof trusses. I bought it because as everyone knows a little water will rot wood relatively quick. Why does jayco go with wood over aluminum studs and trusses? The weight has be be greatly improved with the aluminum.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Thanks Glenn. I'm quite certain it's a price-point decision on Jayco's part. Appreciate you watching!

  • @WATCHLLS
    @WATCHLLS Год назад +4

    Unfortunately the design of these units are setup to fail from the start. If you drive into a dealer lot where the unit was delivered during the winter there is surface rust all over the place. The roof trusses are wood and most of these units leak from the openings cut out for vents and air conditioners. Owners have no idea how quickly these seals start to crack and leak. These units should be built without one stick of wood in them. Totally aluminum from top to bottom. That way when the unit leaks the skeleton of the trailer allows to rebuilt the walls and ceiling easily. Unless your checking all the seals on this units every couple of weeks they will leak. Talking from experience as I have rebuilt about a half dozen water damage trailers. Not to mention paying $30000 to $150000 for a trailer and then financing it over 20 years is border line nuts.

  • @alsehl3609
    @alsehl3609 Год назад +4

    I am surprised the factory assembly line is still running considering that every RV dealer lot across the country is completely jammed with these trailers and the sales drop and owners being upside down in their loans.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      RVs are still moving, albeit at a slower pace YTD. However numbers are closer to what the were pre-Covid.

    • @alsehl3609
      @alsehl3609 Год назад

      @@VogtRVWorld Buyers should wait until the prices drop because of oversupply. In my cross country trips over the last few years including passing by the manufacturer's in Indiana and dealer lots.nthe inventory seems tremendous. Also people tend to buy them after retirement and age out.

  • @timcarlisle9598
    @timcarlisle9598 Год назад +1

    The 5eights floor is a seller.good job

  • @Livefreewhileucan
    @Livefreewhileucan Год назад +2

    I appreciate your videos. However after seeing this construction, I will stick with my aluminum frame premier trailer. These look like pigs with lip stick

  • @zachmaxwell9978
    @zachmaxwell9978 Год назад +4

    Thanks for the video, best yet of a jayco tour. Lot of jitter though, was image stabilization turned off?

  • @offgridprep
    @offgridprep Год назад +2

    To bad they do not vacuum the saw dust out of ventilation system

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      I'll echo that as well. I've owed a bunch of RV's and the new ones seem to spit sawdust or tiny pieces of insulation for months. As always, thanks for watching

  • @npfish
    @npfish Год назад +2

    Great video. Not sure about the water heater. We are looking at the 29.5bhok and it is showing as 35k BTUs.

    • @itr0863
      @itr0863 Год назад

      I am looking at the 29.5 and grand design reflection 278bh. I gave a slight edge to the Jayco because I like the couch position to tv compared to the grand design.

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Thanks for watching

  • @filosworld.1705
    @filosworld.1705 4 месяца назад

    Amazing Jayco totes their quality lol, but Jayco can't put a wax ring with a horn or a rubber ring with a horn under the toilet.
    Instead, they just put a rubber ring under the toilet with no horn knowing all too well the vibration from the road will allow the toilet to move just enough to allow water to seep under the linoleum flooring rotting out the strand board.
    Of course, if they were to use plywood and paint it before installing it making it even more resistant to water, instead of the OSB strand board I might not have to replace the floor I'm in the middle of doing.

  • @mikeandre9027
    @mikeandre9027 Год назад +1

    Great video A whole lot of people talk down about Jayco and the camping industry but they don't know about the inner workings and the hard work that goes in to there R v's they're not just put together cracker Jack boxes like some other brands Between me and my family we own 6 Jayco R v's Everything from the smallest to their largest👍🏻👍🏻

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Agree 100%, Mike. Once you realize *all* the steps that go into creating an RV, you more fully appreciate the end product. Appreciate you watching our vids.

    • @mikeandre9027
      @mikeandre9027 Год назад

      @@VogtRVWorld 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @RoadieWingZZ
      @RoadieWingZZ 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah most people, including some who “claim” to be “building experts”, are really clueless about what’s inside the walls of every structure. Residential, commercial, industrial….everything is ugly under the skin. I’ve seen it all and am still impressed by what I see in this video.

    • @mikeandre9027
      @mikeandre9027 8 месяцев назад

      @@VogtRVWorld 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @jamesroberts9192
    @jamesroberts9192 Год назад +1

    Thanks a Million for sharing this with us I've had two Jayco's RV's and it's nice to see how there put together Wow alot of work go's into them and there very clean
    And the plant is very clean. So tell them thanks for making a safe RV and a eork of art. And thanks to you for making this video. I'll give all a high 9. 😎👍😇😇😎

  • @DanBlackRacing
    @DanBlackRacing 7 месяцев назад

    This is awesome. Thank you. Just picked up a 1991 Jayco and I am impressed on how well it is built!!!

  • @howarddehart8226
    @howarddehart8226 Месяц назад

    I purchased a Jayco Eagle in 2019. After every trip it went back to the dealer for repairs. Replaced the radio, water heater won’t stay lit on propane. Never fixed properly and the warranty is up now. Lights over the dinning table just fell off and broken glass everywhere. The lift switch failed on me when trying to leave a camp spot. Did that by hand. After my latest trip I returned home to find ceiling molding on the floor. The first time I used it the propane smell was strong while barbecuing. I sprayed soapy water on all the connections. Ninety percent of the fittings leaked. Phone chargers in the bedroom don’t work. When I brought this to the dealers attention and was told they meet speck. The floor is starting to squeak more. There is nothing “quality” about Jayco.

  • @tomahawksteak6672
    @tomahawksteak6672 Год назад +3

    Every year rv quality gets less and less. Had a 2014 forest river work n play. Had more issues than my previous 4 used rvs.

  • @user-lo3gt4hf1c
    @user-lo3gt4hf1c 9 месяцев назад

    Can you do a factory tour of the class b vans Jayco is building? No manufacturer appears to want to show how they build with exception of Coachmen, which has a wonderful video showing everything they do to build their class b. Thank you.

  • @muffinflowersrvad485
    @muffinflowersrvad485 4 месяца назад

    Is there a tag or badge like a vehicle that states the tank capacities of a travel trailer or is it just to be believed what they say it is? I am considering buying a 280 RKS in a couple of years and I'm told that out west I can get a 52 gallon fresh tank, but maybe only 38 gallons here in the east. specifically Joliet, IL near Chicago. Or i might have to special order and wonder how long I'll end up waiting.

  • @joeson7700
    @joeson7700 Год назад

    Great Industrial / manufacturer STRATEGY hopefully it can survived Tornadoe TRAJEDY for complete travellers satisfaction & HARMONY.

  • @rrrrkoop2776
    @rrrrkoop2776 Год назад +2

    Is there a video on how the Jayco Seneca's are made, and maybe you can answer this, Why is there no roof ladder on the Seneca?

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      We have a Seneca that we will do a video on soon! I can't answer the "why" regarding the lack of ladder. They quit offering ladders around 2017. Personally I like to have a ladder. In the absence of one, I would suggest a portable telescoping ladder to access the roof. Thanks for watching our vids!

  • @joshuazylstra9310
    @joshuazylstra9310 6 месяцев назад

    Jayco needs to be in Seattle Washington as well !!! You folks would be soooooo busy I've had to throw away 2 Jayco travel trailers cause there isn't anyone who will work on them here in Washington state.

  • @blkpopeye
    @blkpopeye 5 месяцев назад

    This is very interesting..I've never seen an RV being made.

  • @Ricky-eo5ym
    @Ricky-eo5ym 9 месяцев назад

    Great video thank you.

  • @vincenttucker2017
    @vincenttucker2017 Год назад +1

    Thank you for showing how cheaply they are manufactured. If you noticed the studs are not even cut to fit the angles. How are the staples strong?

  • @indianpipe2948
    @indianpipe2948 Месяц назад

    1:30 pm on july 3, 2024. The furniture is chinese vinyl covering. It is literally falling apart. We bought a 2015 jay flight. Wish I could send you a picture. We are going to rip the cushions out down to the frame and see how we can put loose cushions on it. It is a dangerous chinese vinyl. 32:10

  • @RealJohnWayne
    @RealJohnWayne Год назад

    I've owned a couple of new higher-end Jayco trailers that had aluminum framed walls, with wooden roof trusses.
    I know this is a lower end unit, but i can't believe that everything is still wood, pretty much like they've always been.

    • @jerrytalley802
      @jerrytalley802 Год назад

      Wood frames and aluminum skin may seem old fashioned, but if you have a problem, you can fix it, not panels glue to synthetic materials. The old engineers that came up with the first camper trailers knew what they were doing. You can get materials like wood anywhere. I looked at the campers like the Geo with smooth panels with aluminum frames, and synthetic substrate, was almost going that route, but a local place that sells both styles say the still de laminate. I’d croak if my brand new $30,000 plus damper fell apart, thanks

  • @davidm2645
    @davidm2645 Год назад +1

    Can you tell me what the differences in construction are between these new Jayco's and my 2003 Jayco Quest 24' 5th wheel? I noticed a few things in the video that I would like to point out. One being the quality (or lack there of) of the wood framing material. I know people like to scrimp and save money, but if you are one of the better builders, why would you use scrap grade lumber? So, as a customer I am going to pay for that? I sincerely hope that you share these comments with Jayco - or they go online and read them. With any hope they will take some of this constructive criticism to heart and further improve their product.

  • @Steve-jq4st
    @Steve-jq4st 28 дней назад

    I almost purchased Jayco products a couple of times, most recently a couple of weeks ago but I’ve been put off by quality issues. There are too many cases of problems right from the get go and problems people have in having these fixed. In both cases I’ve ended up buying a more expensive but better built and equipped competitors.

  • @joeglennaz
    @joeglennaz Год назад +4

    I have plans on buying anything like this, but I found the video really interesting. I’ve seen other videos of these RVs and seen how cheaply made they are and it’s always turn me off. But after seeing this, I think if I ever were going to buy one and definitely buy a Jayco. Thanks for doing the video things like this mean a lot to people who are looking at spending a lot of money on the products such as this. You look like great trailers that are very well-made. Are these tours open to the public? Are these tours opened up to potential buyers?

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Most manufacturers are getting back to offering tours to the general public, but most need to be scheduled in advance. Appreciate your comments and thanks for watching

  • @franka8377
    @franka8377 Год назад +1

    Curious to know being Jayco owns Starcraft, is this same procedure used on Starcraft units?

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Great question, Frank. My understanding is that while Starcraft is a subsidiary of Jayco and their original intent was for Starcraft to operate independently, many aspects of construction and floorplans have blurred between the brands. Starcraft is a lower price point unit, but employs many of the same construction techniques. As always, thx for watching our vids.

  • @michaelwaldron3320
    @michaelwaldron3320 Год назад +1

    Great video Mike. I have been looking at Jayco caravans out here in Aus, not sure if the company has any connection with Jayco over there.

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley Год назад

    Come to Australia and you will see how a really sold RV / Caravan is made!

  • @loydalexander154
    @loydalexander154 Год назад +1

    Why cant they make a roof that don't leak

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      I very rarely hear of a roof leak issue with Jayco units at our dealership. As always, appreciate you watching.

  • @kenkendall3662
    @kenkendall3662 Год назад +1

    Have you heard anything more about the Jayco volare?

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад +1

      Hi Kendall. Yes, they were supposed to have one at the Tampa show however opted against bringing it as they are making a couple more changes to the model and didn't want to roll it out "officially" before it was done. I anticipate Jayco will be able to roll them out starting later this spring. Thanks for asking!

  • @hazmatlarry72
    @hazmatlarry72 7 месяцев назад

    Some of These comments are harsh. Slide outs give you extra room. However. I think a travel trailer with no slide outs would be less likely to have any issues. These trailers are not ment to be long term residence. So of course they are not going be built like an actual home. I’ve seen a lot worse campers that did not even hold up a month. Jayco offers a 2 year plus 3 year warrenty Don’t buy a 40k plus travel trailer if you’re so worried about it holding up. I’m going to buy single camper to stay in when I’m working away from home it won’t be a permanent residence

  • @CurtisBowers
    @CurtisBowers Год назад +1

    My 2022 Greyhawk 30Z has so many quality issues. Jayco is no better than the cheaper ones we passed over to get a Jayco. Water heater tank installed on top of rubber gas line. Over time it collapsed causing low gas flow. Jayco said it was my fault for the lack of maintenance. The bedroom slide is not chaulked properly and leaks water into the camper. Outside trim pieces are coming loose. The water hose connection to the back of the toilet was loose and leaking water. I could go on with more items. Very disappointing.

  • @scottrymer7515
    @scottrymer7515 4 месяца назад

    Great job Mike. I’ll be looking for a JAYCO as my first RV!
    Thank you for the tour!

  • @TheMarkMillerGroup
    @TheMarkMillerGroup Год назад

    As I read through the comments from a CEO’s perspective, I would be horrified if I was an owner or an executive at Jayco. I bought a 2021 Jayco that was ONE year old from a guy that couldn’t wait to sell it and get rid of all of the problems. He lost $20,000 just to unload/sell the Trailer and it took me almost 70 hours to fix the electrical, woodwork, plumbing, and mechanical issues. I’m still not sure that this Jayco won’t catch on fire someday due to unseen poor electrical wiring. I love my trailer now that the issues are figured out….but feel really bad for people that buy them and don’t have superior mechanical & fabrication skills to fix them.

  • @charlesswearingen7684
    @charlesswearingen7684 Год назад

    I have a2020 Bungalow theshower floor cracked and they don't want to fix it no support under it !

  • @vafrog02
    @vafrog02 Год назад

    At 12:16 you show a 2x8 but it has a crack. Just thought you should know

  • @johnrhineburger7104
    @johnrhineburger7104 Год назад

    Do they still have RV tours so you can see how they're built thank you

  • @BottleJackBuddy
    @BottleJackBuddy Год назад

    Wow.

  • @tg9388
    @tg9388 Год назад

    Mike, is this only on the 2023 for the AC ducting, no 90? exactly most of these key improvements? All 2023 better or not? thanks

    • @tg9388
      @tg9388 Год назад

      @Mike Drudge the 90degree turns have been there for years? great if so

  • @russelthompson1411
    @russelthompson1411 Год назад +2

    I’m on my 3rd Jayco. There quality has been average. The latest one is far below average. This video is mostly commercial.

  • @andreterlecki5442
    @andreterlecki5442 4 месяца назад

    what a primitive Technology. Stone age 18 century

  • @anthonycollado4389
    @anthonycollado4389 Год назад

    Can you purchase a Jaco RV at the factory Where they build that.

  • @wrrn411
    @wrrn411 6 месяцев назад

    Are Jayco units affordable?

  • @rl1236
    @rl1236 4 месяца назад +1

    Cheaply as they can

  • @nancycook3733
    @nancycook3733 9 месяцев назад

    Your talking trailers not RVs ! Ooops someone fubard ! Love the way the dedication for proper builds but did see some mistakes let ya all finger it out ! But I was looking for r.v. builds not trailer builds !

  • @kevinferger9897
    @kevinferger9897 Год назад +2

    I see that your walls are still stapled together after all these years. Staples,Staples everywhere. Not the best fasteners for construction

  • @rp28
    @rp28 Год назад +1

    I understand you are a Jayco dealer and want to push the product line. However all the quality materials used doesn’t really matter if the workers just throw these units together to get them out the door. You watch any video on campers from actual owners and you will quickly find any brand out there has defects in workmanship. Some far worse than others. A friend of mine just bought a new 30 ft camper (I won’t mention the brand just to avoid being sued) and after he got it home and went in, they found the microwave was about to fall out of the space because it wasn’t secured. The refrigerator was out about 6 inches, 2 of the cabinet doors was missing screws on the inside and a piece of trim in the front bedroom was coming off and on top of that the brake on the right side wasn’t secure and he just dropped almost 40 grand on it. And of course this camper is one of the best on the market, according to the salesman. So again, just because they use quality materials doesn’t mean it’s built by quality workers

    • @VogtRVWorld
      @VogtRVWorld  Год назад

      Jayco isn't perfect, although the largely conservative workforce that builds Jayco tends to be a cut above what I've seen in other factories. -Mike

  • @robertrice6583
    @robertrice6583 7 месяцев назад

    Im buying a jayco travel trailer when i retire

  • @brianbj2198
    @brianbj2198 8 месяцев назад

    That i beam frame looks very thin
    I watch a lot of these videos. To gather information to build my own motorhome And every company says the “ other guys “ dont use this kind of quality or this kind of materials. I been a carpenter for 26 years now. I i have never seen quality and or a solid build till i seen showhaulers plant. These are rolling pop cans

  • @Bongojim121212
    @Bongojim121212 9 месяцев назад

    I have just looked at the Germans building the same product wow huge difference compared to the USA. The build with foam board insulation, aluminum structures, and production process is completely different. Mineral wool, I mean come on just a bit of water gets in there and that is it your done. The wood ...... is subject to rot etc....
    No I would not buy American made for sure.