Videos keep getting better and better! I hope you get some proper sponsors for this channel soon, because you can do a lot with more budget and we want to see it!
They look like a decent brand to be fair. Granted they are not cheap, but still I was not expecting it to beat the last generation Parkside impact wrench and go head to head with the much improved current generation. Not a bad choice if you can't get the Parkside stuff at all. Is the sabre saw also brushed?
Hey man. Personal opinion, i think for average owner, Gisam “1200”nm one is the cheapest and good enough. I have used mine to dissasemble tight pulleys, cylinder heads, wheels torqued to 210 ish nm, no issues. Its a bit more powerful than the 520nm one you tested. If you are willing, you could do a comparison. Its not enough on the internet for ppl to kmow about it. It was around 50-55€ with 2 batteries. It saved me a bunch of time and effort. Thanks for your honest tests! Many of them helped me to make a choice.
Thank you so much for your kind comment! It does make me happy knowing I did manage to help out and you think highly of my work on this channel! Thank you! I will get the 1200Nm at some point for sure as I also want to see what it is like. But I did spend a lot on a couple of other impact wrenches so I need to get those videos done first and if they do well there will be more to spend on new tools!
Can't argue with that, I was not a fan of the older Grizzly versions of this as some of them could barely undo 200Nm. However this new one by OWIM is a gigantic leap in the right direction.
@BrokeLifeEU The Makita is rated at like 330 but ttc tested it over 400 if I remember correctly i know it was among the best for the size. It's unreal the value Parkside gives but the Makita is brushless tho and has some fancy modes most don't really need.
@@hugo69miguel Hobby vs professional. Both have their use cases and in some cases one can be a superior choice despite the other being better. Hobby grade tools are getting close in performance but they lack refinement and creature comforts you get with the expensive tools. Basically you need to determine how often you are using the tool to justify the purchase.
I'd still go with Parkside, as local availability is simply better. And the whole range of their 20V tools looks a bit better. On the 20V batteries - is it me, or anything above 4Ah has disappeared? Now the newer BT enabled 4Ah version is all that's available on DE website (where I'm checking their newer stuff)
Not just you at all, they ran a discount on the 8Ah a while ago I guess to get rid of them and after that they were never back in stock. Either nobody wanted them and they decided to get rid of them or there will be a different one coming soon. As for the point about local availability , indeed that will always be a huge hurdle for online based stores to overcome so their product has to either be much better than the other one or you need to have no local availability of either.
@@BrokeLifeEU Is there any difference in power output from using old vs new 4Ah vs 8Ah batteries? I remember 8Ah being a lot more expensive, so was wondering if they were even worth it.
2Ah = 30A 4Ah = 60A 4 Ah Smart = 50A 8 Ah Smart = 100A Multiply this with 18, and u get the maximum Wattage a Tool could Output, if it is built like that and can Handle it So 1080 Watt with standard 4 Ah And 1800 Watt with the 8 Ah Smart Battery But i've heard they failed quite often, just like my 4 Ah Smart Batterys did, so i guess they wanted to get rid of them and maybe someday we get a new Version, but tbh i would be fine with just 8Ah WITHOUT that Smart stuff, which makes it fail
@@JanisVeide For power hungry tools there is a considerable difference in performance. The difference between the old 4Ah and new 4Ah is very difficult to notice in the real world. So much so that I use the smart 4Ah ones, because they are smaller.
@@3DamX1 Yes, seems the Achilles heel on all of that stuff is the smart functionality, which I personally never understood. I want to get work done, not muck about with apps and stuff. Get rid of the smart stuff and give us a normal, reliable 21700 cell 4Ah and 8Ah battery.
Unfortunately I never had the chance to get the Ferrex version and I feel they are waay too overpriced on eBay. I did convert some Ferrex impact drivers in to impact wrenches and I feel they can be nearly as good as Parkside, but not as good and for sure not better. However that is not a real impact wrench.
@ I’ve also noticed the prices of Ferrex tools on eBay are crazy expensive, I was going to do the the Ferrex impact pro driver conversion you did but trying to get one is impossible but I’ll keep searching Keep the video’s coming we really enjoy watching them 👍🏻
@@crazypayz9362 Thank you so much! The Ferrex PRO impact drivers do pop up from time to time at the 30 EUR mark albeit lightly used. But still I think that is a very nice deal as with the anvil the converted tool ends up at no more than 40-45EUR which is even less than the Parkside conversion and is nearly at the same power level.
It appears that the production of those batteries has undergone a shift; while they were previously made by Grizzly, they are now manufactured by Owim. I have two 4 Ah B2 batteries-one bearing the Grizzly name and the other labeled Owim-highlighting this transition in branding and possibly even quality.
Yes, I think we can say that. I have never had a Ryobi, however from the videos on them I have seen I think Parkside are of a bit lower quality. I was actually thinking, just tiday in fact, to get some Ryobi stuff and test it against some Parkside stuff.
When you tested old vs new, you used a different battery. From my experience with the Parkside cordless angle grinder, the older 4ah battery pack outputs more power than the new 4ah "smart" packs.
There is a difference between the old 4Ah and smart 4Ah, however it is not really noticeable on this impact wrench. That said there was more difference between the B2 units themselves than you could expect from the different battery types. Even if you test the C2 and B2 with the same battery the performance gap between them is vast and the C2 always comes out on top.
That Tool is kinda on my Wishlist... but... I believe i've never seen this Thing Solo, with a Discount And as i already have the 12V Performance Impact (which i guess should deliver nearly similar performance) AND already have the 20V Performance... i can be patient with that Purchase :)
Seriously the 12V impact wrench with the 5Ah battery is probably the same power as either of these, albeit a lot lighter and smaller. However if you are using it with the 4Ah don't expect too much power out of the little impact wrench.
What makes you think the sockets supplied with parkside are not impact sockets. You shouldn't pack a lot of grease into a impact gun it will interfere with the operation of the hammer and anvil
They are thick, however they are chrome vanadium steel which is not the best type for impact use. That would be chrome molybdenum. Not only are Cr-Mo sockets better suited for the impacting of such tools, they also deliver more impacting force to the fastener. I am certain Parkside went with the Cr-V sockets. because they are the cheaper option, not because they are the better option. By all means the provided sockets with the Parkside impact wrench are sufficient for it, however I have found that even low torque impact wrenches improve their performance by just using Cr-Mo sockets.
@@bobp6742 They specify it on the socket, the Parkside ones that come with the impact wrench are marked Cr-V, whereas the ones in the separate Parkside case are market Cr-Mo.
@@BrokeLifeEU just wondering, I have 3 sets one Halfords advance which is shiny black with cr-v on them, a set of USA pro Matt Black with cro-mo on them and another unmarked set no doubt Chinese that are thick but shiny black so just wondering that they could be cr-v going by the colour.
@@bobp6742 I am not sure if the colour has anything to do with it to be honest I have just always went with the markings on them. Although thinking about it I have seen shiny Cr-Mo ones and matte Cr-V ones so the colour might not be the best indicator.
With that amount of power you don't need to worry about having impact sockets, CR-V will get the job just fine without cracking. There is no benefit of using impact sockets other than those sockets are much safer, they won't brake during impacting due to different material with a little bit lower level of hardness that allows socket to have a little bit more flexabilty. There is no more power with impact sockets that's a myth, power delivery is the same unless you use shity cr-v sockets made out of plastic, Torque test channel already proved that. Those socket that are included with parkside aren't proper for that use, but they will handle that just fine with that amount of power.
The included Parkside sockets will handle the power from that impact wrench for very occasional use, however I have seen some that have fractured. Although the use was not occasional, in fact they were abused. I must say from my own personal experience that when used with the included sockets the Parkside impact wrench vibrates a lot more and I feel the impacting is transferred both ways, meaning to both the bolt and to my hand. Whereas with the Cr-Mo sockets I feel fewer vibrations coming down the impact wrench handle and in to my hand. Could be just me, but I also find a difference when attacking bolts on wheels that have been through a harsh winter. In that case the Cr-Mo sockets can undo the bolts easier. Again I am going just by feeling on this one. On the other hand the included Cr-V sockets with the Parkside have a wall much thicker than regular Cr-V sockets and are longer so they have much more mass which is very good in the impact world. So in my mind they are not the worst, however certainly not the best option.
@@WCKD. Completely understandable, I feel like an idiot now. I was thinking of doing that and I forgot... However as I said I will update on this for sure!
Меня это тоже удивило. New Parkside намного лучше старой версии, а Hychika по-прежнему работала так же хорошо. Цена одинаковая, но приятно, что есть варианты.
Videos keep getting better and better! I hope you get some proper sponsors for this channel soon, because you can do a lot with more budget and we want to see it!
Thank you so much! I do always try my best!
I have an Hychika sabre saw,and am very pleased with it.
They look like a decent brand to be fair. Granted they are not cheap, but still I was not expecting it to beat the last generation Parkside impact wrench and go head to head with the much improved current generation. Not a bad choice if you can't get the Parkside stuff at all. Is the sabre saw also brushed?
Hey man. Personal opinion, i think for average owner, Gisam “1200”nm one is the cheapest and good enough. I have used mine to dissasemble tight pulleys, cylinder heads, wheels torqued to 210 ish nm, no issues. Its a bit more powerful than the 520nm one you tested.
If you are willing, you could do a comparison. Its not enough on the internet for ppl to kmow about it. It was around 50-55€ with 2 batteries.
It saved me a bunch of time and effort.
Thanks for your honest tests! Many of them helped me to make a choice.
Thank you so much for your kind comment! It does make me happy knowing I did manage to help out and you think highly of my work on this channel! Thank you! I will get the 1200Nm at some point for sure as I also want to see what it is like. But I did spend a lot on a couple of other impact wrenches so I need to get those videos done first and if they do well there will be more to spend on new tools!
Parkside is a great deal actually 😅. I paid for my Makita dtw300z about 150-200€ just bare tool(2 years ago).
Can't argue with that, I was not a fan of the older Grizzly versions of this as some of them could barely undo 200Nm. However this new one by OWIM is a gigantic leap in the right direction.
@BrokeLifeEU The Makita is rated at like 330 but ttc tested it over 400 if I remember correctly i know it was among the best for the size. It's unreal the value Parkside gives but the Makita is brushless tho and has some fancy modes most don't really need.
Please! Don´t use Makita in the same sentence with Parkside! It's a sacrilege!
@@hugo69miguel Hobby vs professional. Both have their use cases and in some cases one can be a superior choice despite the other being better. Hobby grade tools are getting close in performance but they lack refinement and creature comforts you get with the expensive tools. Basically you need to determine how often you are using the tool to justify the purchase.
great video, how did you find out who manufactured the parkside IWs ?
Thank you! As for the manufacturer. They specify the manufacturer on the sticker on the back of the tool, same with the charger and battery.
I'd still go with Parkside, as local availability is simply better. And the whole range of their 20V tools looks a bit better.
On the 20V batteries - is it me, or anything above 4Ah has disappeared? Now the newer BT enabled 4Ah version is all that's available on DE website (where I'm checking their newer stuff)
Not just you at all, they ran a discount on the 8Ah a while ago I guess to get rid of them and after that they were never back in stock. Either nobody wanted them and they decided to get rid of them or there will be a different one coming soon. As for the point about local availability , indeed that will always be a huge hurdle for online based stores to overcome so their product has to either be much better than the other one or you need to have no local availability of either.
@@BrokeLifeEU Is there any difference in power output from using old vs new 4Ah vs 8Ah batteries?
I remember 8Ah being a lot more expensive, so was wondering if they were even worth it.
2Ah = 30A
4Ah = 60A
4 Ah Smart = 50A
8 Ah Smart = 100A
Multiply this with 18, and u get the maximum Wattage a Tool could Output, if it is built like that and can Handle it
So 1080 Watt with standard 4 Ah
And 1800 Watt with the 8 Ah Smart Battery
But i've heard they failed quite often, just like my 4 Ah Smart Batterys did, so i guess they wanted to get rid of them and maybe someday we get a new Version, but tbh i would be fine with just 8Ah WITHOUT that Smart stuff, which makes it fail
@@JanisVeide For power hungry tools there is a considerable difference in performance. The difference between the old 4Ah and new 4Ah is very difficult to notice in the real world. So much so that I use the smart 4Ah ones, because they are smaller.
@@3DamX1 Yes, seems the Achilles heel on all of that stuff is the smart functionality, which I personally never understood. I want to get work done, not muck about with apps and stuff. Get rid of the smart stuff and give us a normal, reliable 21700 cell 4Ah and 8Ah battery.
Hi I’m not sure if you have done a parkside and Ferrex impact wrench comparison yet but which one would you say is the better one 👍🏻
Unfortunately I never had the chance to get the Ferrex version and I feel they are waay too overpriced on eBay. I did convert some Ferrex impact drivers in to impact wrenches and I feel they can be nearly as good as Parkside, but not as good and for sure not better. However that is not a real impact wrench.
@ I’ve also noticed the prices of Ferrex tools on eBay are crazy expensive, I was going to do the the Ferrex impact pro driver conversion you did but trying to get one is impossible but I’ll keep searching
Keep the video’s coming we really enjoy watching them 👍🏻
@@crazypayz9362 Thank you so much! The Ferrex PRO impact drivers do pop up from time to time at the 30 EUR mark albeit lightly used. But still I think that is a very nice deal as with the anvil the converted tool ends up at no more than 40-45EUR which is even less than the Parkside conversion and is nearly at the same power level.
Top as usual
Thank you!
It appears that the production of those batteries has undergone a shift; while they were previously made by Grizzly, they are now manufactured by Owim. I have two 4 Ah B2 batteries-one bearing the Grizzly name and the other labeled Owim-highlighting this transition in branding and possibly even quality.
I also came across some Kompernaß ones so I guess batteries are made by whoever 😂 but I hope with OWIM they get an improvement in quality.
So Parkside is Ryobi in EU, I guess?
Yes, I think we can say that. I have never had a Ryobi, however from the videos on them I have seen I think Parkside are of a bit lower quality. I was actually thinking, just tiday in fact, to get some Ryobi stuff and test it against some Parkside stuff.
When you tested old vs new, you used a different battery. From my experience with the Parkside cordless angle grinder, the older 4ah battery pack outputs more power than the new 4ah "smart" packs.
There is a difference between the old 4Ah and smart 4Ah, however it is not really noticeable on this impact wrench. That said there was more difference between the B2 units themselves than you could expect from the different battery types. Even if you test the C2 and B2 with the same battery the performance gap between them is vast and the C2 always comes out on top.
That Tool is kinda on my Wishlist...
but...
I believe i've never seen this Thing Solo, with a Discount
And as i already have the 12V Performance Impact (which i guess should deliver nearly similar performance)
AND already have the 20V Performance... i can be patient with that Purchase :)
As you have both the 12V one and the 20V Performance one I don't think you have any need for this. There you go, this channel saves you money! 😆😆😆
Seriously the 12V impact wrench with the 5Ah battery is probably the same power as either of these, albeit a lot lighter and smaller. However if you are using it with the 4Ah don't expect too much power out of the little impact wrench.
@@BrokeLifeEU it's not about the Money, it's about HAVIN IT!!!... 😁
I know that feeling way too well 😁
Bro is it so much difference between 4ah and 5ah on the small 12v impact wrench? Because i have 3x 4ah batteries...
I bought my Parkside Impact when it was only 45€ 4 years ago
I am guessing that would be one of the first A1 ones by Kompernaß. Those are solid build quality and second best performance after the current C2.
What makes you think the sockets supplied with parkside are not impact sockets.
You shouldn't pack a lot of grease into a impact gun it will interfere with the operation of the hammer and anvil
They are thick, however they are chrome vanadium steel which is not the best type for impact use. That would be chrome molybdenum. Not only are Cr-Mo sockets better suited for the impacting of such tools, they also deliver more impacting force to the fastener. I am certain Parkside went with the Cr-V sockets. because they are the cheaper option, not because they are the better option. By all means the provided sockets with the Parkside impact wrench are sufficient for it, however I have found that even low torque impact wrenches improve their performance by just using Cr-Mo sockets.
@BrokeLifeEU
How do you know they are not cro-mo is it because of the black shiny surface instead of the Matt Black of the socket
@@bobp6742 They specify it on the socket, the Parkside ones that come with the impact wrench are marked Cr-V, whereas the ones in the separate Parkside case are market Cr-Mo.
@@BrokeLifeEU just wondering, I have 3 sets one Halfords advance which is shiny black with cr-v on them, a set of USA pro Matt Black with cro-mo on them and another unmarked set no doubt Chinese that are thick but shiny black so just wondering that they could be cr-v going by the colour.
@@bobp6742 I am not sure if the colour has anything to do with it to be honest I have just always went with the markings on them. Although thinking about it I have seen shiny Cr-Mo ones and matte Cr-V ones so the colour might not be the best indicator.
With that amount of power you don't need to worry about having impact sockets, CR-V will get the job just fine without cracking. There is no benefit of using impact sockets other than those sockets are much safer, they won't brake during impacting due to different material with a little bit lower level of hardness that allows socket to have a little bit more flexabilty. There is no more power with impact sockets that's a myth, power delivery is the same unless you use shity cr-v sockets made out of plastic, Torque test channel already proved that. Those socket that are included with parkside aren't proper for that use, but they will handle that just fine with that amount of power.
The included Parkside sockets will handle the power from that impact wrench for very occasional use, however I have seen some that have fractured. Although the use was not occasional, in fact they were abused. I must say from my own personal experience that when used with the included sockets the Parkside impact wrench vibrates a lot more and I feel the impacting is transferred both ways, meaning to both the bolt and to my hand. Whereas with the Cr-Mo sockets I feel fewer vibrations coming down the impact wrench handle and in to my hand. Could be just me, but I also find a difference when attacking bolts on wheels that have been through a harsh winter. In that case the Cr-Mo sockets can undo the bolts easier. Again I am going just by feeling on this one. On the other hand the included Cr-V sockets with the Parkside have a wall much thicker than regular Cr-V sockets and are longer so they have much more mass which is very good in the impact world. So in my mind they are not the worst, however certainly not the best option.
Teardown the battery as well.
Not a bad idea at all this! I should have done it really. I will update a community post with photos from both batteries in the coming days for sure!
Yeah great idea as some batteries are complete junk!
@@wanderer7779 yes, that's my point.
@@WCKD. Completely understandable, I feel like an idiot now. I was thinking of doing that and I forgot... However as I said I will update on this for sure!
@@BrokeLifeEU No worries buddy! Better late than never. 😁
Hychika меня очень удивил 🧐 В принципе оба достойные аппараты 💪👍
Меня это тоже удивило. New Parkside намного лучше старой версии, а Hychika по-прежнему работала так же хорошо. Цена одинаковая, но приятно, что есть варианты.