In conversation with Francois Gautier on Conflict in Auroville: The Tyranny of Babudom
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Francois Gautier relates the happenings in Auroville and how plans to celebrate the 150th Anniversary of Sri Aurobindo's birthday are going haywire due to Babudom. A must-watch to hear an Indophile who is getting rubbed the wrong way.
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François sir,we are all supporters you.Auroville is for all irrespective caste,creed and nationality,who aspires for higher living,in the light of Mother and Sri Aurobindo's teaching.we salute you for your love for India and it's greatness.we beg you to continue your good work in protectng the environnent and Good will of Auroville.
Sir, Puducherry or Pondicherry too was once known as Veda Puri.
Any source? I thought it evolved the name from Poduca...
When??
Why doesn’t someone start a petition to the Modi government??
This movement & Auroville are worth saving - maybe the concept should spread to other parts of India & the world.
Auroville's original gurus were aiming for an spiritual city of about 50,000 souls strong from all continents on Indian soil to have an effect on World scale even before 1968. Present local leaders like Francois seem more concerned with a few trees thus proving they have lost that plot; Modiji hasn't. We have a Cold War II raging in Europe but Gautier still keeps singing the same song: the loss of his power hurts. Here is a person working solo in Delhi/ Paris for decades praising Auroville group decisions........
In his own words he was inspired influenced by The Life Divine .
Instead what he has been doing unlike the recently deceased late Cristof ?
And Mr. Gautier the same very person praising in his own words Peter Heehs nasty biograpy of Sri Aurobindo.
The spirit of Auroville should be followed and preserved accommodating people from all nations as dreamt by the mother and sri Aurobindo s vision
The Shivaji Maharaj museum in pune is a must visit. I wish schools take their students every year to visit their students and educate them in history
NAMASTE, Thank you very much... from Auroville we deeply appreciate all help, in these difficult times, thank you
Connect with TN BJP leader, Annamali, as he could stop all these non by an IAS officer
these officers!
He is not God
Annamalai is running away like a pimp..
pgurus=vadamal Pappan gurus
Francois Gautier's description of the administrative chaos in Puducherry is very alarming. Essentially the bureaucrat is out to ransack and cause havoc to the vrry core and the soul of Puducherry purely out of her whims and fancies. But, what was not clear is since how long has the tyrant bureaucrat been stirring up this storm in Puducherry. However, it seemed to sound that this has been going on for some time now, as Francois Gautier's dejection of not getting audience of the PM and HM seems to convey that, that it's been a long wait and has reached a precipitating point, while the bureaucrat is continuing unabated going in 'chucking her attitude' upon the age old followers of Sri Aurobindo. Clearly, the delay from the PMO and the HM to arrest and stop this tyranny is a matter of deep concern. Pray that this open mesaage of Francois Gautier through PGurus is able to create the desired impact and that the clouds of bureaucracy are well cleared within 150th year Sri Aurobindo's birth anniversary and it's celebrations.
Banning alcohol here would solve the problem...
Cancelling visas, filing FIRs against veteran Aurovillians is typical of babudom, who think they have the"right" to oppress/rule. Learn to work by consensus.
Thanks for inviting Mr. Gautier. I support Mr. Gautier efforts and appreciate his love for Indian culture and history.
Connect with Dr Kiran Bedi. Maybe she can help
This is the biggest joke my friend… they are one team
We are great fans of Monsieur Gautier. May God Bless Him, Now And Always..👍
I did not see any action on Corrupt DMK, political murderers of west bengal, Tamil Nadu, Kerala and other states. India is out of covid or less impacted due its natural spicy foods, weather and many other factors. Also very very pathetic economic management
your anguish over the lax action on corrupt leaders of dmk congress communist naxals tmc ,, etc by the centre though there are lot of material with investigatiing officials at various times. The problem is the leaders hire the wisdom of evil legal geniuses besides bribing institutions playing the watch dog. It is difficult to prove their irregularities, trace the money trails, etc as required by the judiciary.. What Justice Sarkaria enquiring dmk frauds decades ago said of the scams of political party as "scientific corruption" difficult to get convicted with the levels of facts with the cbi ed etc That's why many of the corrupt party men like Dayanidhi Raja ... even Chidambaram Rahul....etc are still out on indefinite bails or even let off with petty fines etc Their powerful judicial links are also being talked in private.
but your comment about economic mgt seems bighly biased.. since IMF WB etc are praising India as fastest developing economy and lot of relief to small trade and common low income families are getting the Modi govt strong support in all elections.
BJP does not have any ability to manage internal security issues it is at sea with such matters
CAA is not implemented yet. There are too many bureaucratic obstacles for any refugees to dare to come to India.
Good to know . Thank you
He denigrated a organization as undesirable. He characterizes it as mostly Indians. Extraordinary statement to be made in India. Beginning to think babus are not the problem. It’s the expats who are living like it’s a pre independent india.
It's much peaceful in pre independent India...
Thank you 💕💕💕
You are so welcome
Confidence level to aspire for:
“We all know the PM and HM watch PGurus”
🙏🙏😅
Modi and his love for IAS is the bane of India
While we keep shouting Modi Modi should also remember what a staunch Modi supporter against all odds like like Gautierji is saying..sad..tragic!
what kind of monster would cut trees raze houses Shame on her 👺👺😡😡🩴
I think it's all very one sided and harmful for Auroville, what u said
What happened to Karthik Gopinath?
lol he is in prison , when he comes out we will bash him out
Released
Cutting trees is a criminal act.
Was any great ancient city in the world worth its name built without cutting trees? Auroville is a unique city of the Future envisaged by the Divine Mother. While Nature destroys millions of trees periodically all over the earth, sacrificing a few tens of thousands of trees for this unique city shouldn't concern anybody with a practical outlook.
So shocked to know of Jayanti’s highhandedness & vindictiveness. Very disappointed. Hope Mr. Gautier gets a response from the PMO, soon.
If you don't know anything of what is going on in Auroville, and have only heard the completely false claims from vindictive crooks like this François, yes, then you can only think what you write.
But it has no relation to the reality of Auroville.
The Secretary has been extraordinary gracious and patient, being fully open to collaborate with literally everybody here.
The way François and his gang of profiteers have treated her is so low, that if you care to watch the videos you will see for yourself: no respect whatsoever, exactly like the colonials of the olden days, only disdain and arrogance. They feel they are king in their kingdom, and have nothing but contempt for anybody that tries to inform them that that is not the reality.
Auroville has been perverted since so long, a clean-up is very long overdue. And it will not be stopped, no matter how many people believe the lies that François and his gang keep pumping out.
Really sad to see the pain
Dear Francois, Can you even tell the public, as a pioneer what have you contributed to Auroville? As i know most of the days you are out of Auroville.. meeting politicians and misusing Auroville's name.
Come on have courage and humility to accept the mistakes that you as a pioneer have done and surrender to the true divine Mother who has bestowed such a beautiful mission for our life to be instruments of Her dream Project...
Salute Him to Support French man Support us Tamil people..
Whats yhe update on this issue?
Thanks!
So sad ! Now shocking what is happening in temples is it happening in Auroville also ?
These minor /major wrong thing being highlighted by ur channel is great but painful also. The IPL, Auroville, etc etc.The govt should listen to their own detractors
Thanks
Dear Francois Gautier, Always behave as if The Mother is watching you, because She is indeed always present. You cannot deceive The Divine Consciousness since It is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. All what you say is not only false, distorted but also out of its full context. You take a part of the truth and present it as the whole truth. And even that part is false.
No one is above the law.
I have been witness to the lawlessness in Auroville and many thanks to Dr.Jayanthi Ravi that some sense and purpose is coming back to Auroville, slowlybut surely. How clever you are! You have no clue about the damage you are doing, or may be you know. May be you want to feel some power resisting and going against Her work ? True power can only be felt by surrender to Her and not by opposing Her. I request you to ponder over this attitude you have taken. Also know this, no human will can prevail over the Divine's will. If She is Love ❤️, She is the Shakti of the Supreme too. Future will prove how wrong you are/were about anything and everything concerning Auroville. As for me Madam Secretary is a Vibhuti and has been sent by Bharat Mata to take Auroville to its fulfillment. We would support her all the way since her intentions are sincere and pure.
I hope and pray you realise your folly.
I am an Aurovilian and i know all that goes on in Auroville. I have been continuously on ground since 13 years. I do not want to wash dirty laundry in public. Since I love The Mother and I am ever grateful for all that she has done for us all. I wish you well though. This project cannot fail due to some entitled elite. Period. 🙏👍🙂
Maybe Jayanthi Ravi thinks this is her "jurisdiction". That's not how things work at Auroville. People who don't understand the purpose don't belong there.
To be fair, the side, which support the government secretary, needs also to be heard.
Auroville has a history of acrimonious fights between groups. In 1982, I happened to be in the midst of one. One group wanted the government to come in, the other group wanted a compromise with the Sri Aurobindo Society. The first group got its way.
Is the main complaint about felling trees or is it about expanding the “city”? The question remains, why even after over 50 years of its existence, only 4000 people live in the “city of the future” which was planned for 50,000.
As a Pondicherry resident, I loved the city when the population was lesser, and the city is small and Auroville is a much lesser than the main city. We don't need this city to become Bengaluru or Chennai. We are better off, hence the reason for 5000 and not 50000. 50000 people coming in there would destroy the local population and culture.
Nothing can be farther from the Truth than your claim that plans to celebrate the 150th Anniversary of Sri Aurobindo's birthday in Auroville are going haywire due to Babudom. The Governing Board and the Secretary of Auroville have been making efforts to organize programs befitting the occasion but no initiative or cooperation was forthcoming from the official groups and individuals aligned with the dominant group of residents in Auroville consisting mainly of Western origin Auroville residents numbering several hundred. They won't because they have been on the warpath against the Governing Board since it decided to start the city development, which had been blocked for decades, late last year. In a recent meeting with the residents, the Secretary was questioned if the impetus given to the city development was due to Sri Aurobindo's 150th birth anniversary. That was the most telling public expression of the mindset of the dominant group which Francois Gautier is supporting. It means this: If we can't continue Auroville as a village inside a forest we don't want any celebration of Sri Aurobindo's anniversary. This should clear any notion you may have of this group's respect or love for Sri Aurobindo.
This is a huge simplification and a very divisive talking. There has been some resistance to development but not by the 800 or so (not only western) Aurovilians resisting the onslaughts since December 2021, when JCBs cleared large parts of the youth centre ignoring pleas for a sustainable and well imagined development. The failure so far has been a collective one, not one sided, not by greenbelters or "westerners" only. More than fifty percent of AVns are Indian and more than half of those Tamil. Out of the rest, you can't conclude they're westerners either as we have some 60 nationalities, including various Asian countries. I ask right now, what are the plans to develop? Even in light of the NGT stay order on tree felling we can develop, we can do the detailed development plans, why not? Why a freeze now? Some thirty architects of AV came together to sketch plans for the Crown, but the foundation office seems more concerned with taking over all committees including those in control of all the assets of Auroville which were built not only by residents but also with the support of international wellwishers from all over. I sure wish we find some constructive ways forward before it's too late and AV will seize being an international community. And yes, in spite of all the slander on AV now, the project is still being mentioned by India as an amazing project in a UN meeting, so which way is it? And yes, in spite of all the slander on AVns I count myself a serious sanyasin. I may not be Indian or dressed in white but have had enough of nondual experience to know there's something to these teachings. With great respect for the Indian wisdom, many of us here are feeling were evolving along with consciousness and a great reverence for nature and trust in individual freedom as an imperative for growth remain. Of course open to the guidance of the GB, are they open to listen too?
It was designed to be a global village fgs, why develop it and bring in unnecessary attention to it?
Please Modi Ji listen to Francois Gautier
Modi is nominated for noble prize....he is waiting to collect the prize, so busy himself
Francois Gautier , what you narrated is full of lies without evidence, you are unfit to live in Auroville.
These guys from the government come from the streets … at the core they have no moral values…. They will make Auroville a propaganda place in less than 10 years.. all good souls will flee
Hindus owe a lot to Gautier. We respect you more than we respect any Indian Hindu leader. It's sad that a great spiritual master like Aurobindo could not train a few sanyasis to continue his works. A spiritual institution being left to bureaucrats to manage is purely unimaginative
Mrs. Ravi has to get kicked off the AUROVILLE.... Modi and his goons want a holiday homes in AUROVILLE.
Politicians are friend of other politician and Businessmen rest hardly matter to them. If the PM office and HM have not taken note is a shameful.
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The Auroville must abide by the rules of the Government of India "Cost of my reputation" Asking for the pound of flesh.
Modi is silent now🤐
The agenda is being executed by them
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Francois Gautier was drawn to the Mother and Auroville in his youth but failed to live up to her vision both of Auroville and India. The Mother wanted India to regain her political unity broken by partition due to the Hindu-Muslim divide but Francois belongs to the fringe groups in Indian politics who want no rapprochement with the Muslims within or outside India and dream of a Hindu Nation which Sri Aurobindo had rejected as impossible. Auroville was founded with a city plan approved by the Mother but Francois supports the dominant group that is against city development consisting mainly of eco-fundamentalist Westerners with some Macaulay-educated Indians and a few economic refugees from local villages. Hostile to city development they grew forests in areas meant for the city and constructed buildings on stretches of land meant for roads. Using vote bank politics and economic power they installed their puppets in the apex committees and took control of city services. None of the several Governing Boards were able to start building the city in the past even though the master plan was approved around the year 2000 and gazetted by the Govt. of India in 2010. When the present Governing Board with the Governor of Tamil Nadu as its Chairman and Dr. Jayanti Ravi as the Secretary started to clear trees and structures to complete a ring road critical for city development the anti-city group, who have recently started claiming that they are not anti-city but still turn up en masse to block any clearance work and in solidarity with their minority faction in the Working Committee that refuses to vacate their office in the town hall. Both the Chairman and the Secretary are well versed with the teachings of Sri Aurobindo, the Mother, and the ideals of Auroville and therefore are able to see through the falsehood of the group fighting city development with the aid of external media and Western-inspired eco-fundamentalists within India and rest of the World. PGurus should advise Francois Gautier to put into practice sincerely the ideals of the great Gurus and Auroville Charter that requires him to be the 'willing servitor of the divine consciousness' than become an ally of his divisive agenda that is detrimental to the future of India and Auroville.
BJP is on a path of appropriating every successful venture. The high handedness of Lt Governor Bedi was a show of arrogant authoritarianism in Pondicherry.
Gujerati investment in Pondicherry goes back to the 60s. They had already eclipsed the Ashram with their investments.
With the current Gujerat origin beaucracracy it is full circle. This story is a familiar one in several metros and abroad. A cultural revolution of sorts where a once benevolent community has raised its ideological head, that does not have universal favour.
Many like Francois have been used as agents of their ideology. Don't expect any help from the duo.
yes. BJP is taking over auroville and will appropriate aurobindo himself...
How would they takeover that place? Make it come under any dept like hrce or any other way?
@@mikoformiko it's a religious place how would they even do it...
François Gauthier lives in a world of falsehood. Everything said here is only to defend his own profiteering and that of his friends and family in Auroville.
Auroville is being abused, since the very start, for personal profit and power games.
It was very isolated, with a very spiritual aim, which made it seem like a nice a beautiful project (the project as intended by the Mother is a sublime gift to the world by India and the Divine). But the reality has been that it was a very low and ordinary colony, where white drop-outs and nobodies could suddenly become "seigneurs" of a small community, where people would be depending on their approval for living in "their" kingdom.
All of that is now finally coming to an end, thanks to the Government of India, who have understood that this gang of colonials has gone completely rogue.
All these old "revered brothers and sisters" in Auroville, who call themselves the "pioneers" and thereby need to be highly respected by the people who come later, are now losing everything they cheated and schemed for in the past 50 years. Their fury knows no bounds, as their arrogance has grown to astronomical proportions over the decades.
Imagine: they were "respected" white colonials, getting away with literal murder and all kinds of crimes in their little hidden corner of the world, under the false pretence of being a successful spiritual "community".
They ran to Delhi whenever something threatened their kingdoms, and they blackmailed and threatened everyone who wanted to speak the truth into silence.
Now their carefully crafted cult is collapsing fully, and they cannot accept it: their arrogance, their claim to being above the law and totally "exceptional" is so big, that they can only believe that it is not true, and that what they claim to be reality will stop being a delusion, just by repeating it endlessly.
François Gauthier is a pathetic liar and fraud, and luckily doesn't live in Auroville anymore. His claim to be an "Aurovilian" has zero value, he does nothing for Auroville except lobbying in Delhi. Aurovilians are not meant to be involved in politics, but François Gauthier has done nothing else but meddling with politicians so that he and his friends would be kept out of court.
It is all over, this is this end of the perversion that these people have turned Mother's spiritual city into.
Thank god. Interviewing François Gauthier will be obsolete, as he will only be able to complain and moan about the fact that he has lost his status and self-grabbed "power".
Good riddance. Finally, some honesty and sincerity will be given the chance to blossom in the place intended by the Mother as "Auroville, the City at the Service of Truth".
Francois Gautier Sir knows about India, Indian culture better than all educated Indians. Salute to Francois sir
very true
Auroville was created with a specific idea in mind and now it is being destroyed.
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 At one point or one point of time, some trusts are hijacked by selfish or political or babudom people . Automatically decay sets in afterwards. This is true of Indian cricket and Indian Medical association hijacked by highly business crooks and politicians like Sharad Pawar.
@@rajanrg so sad, humans always get corrupted when they gain power.
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 Yes. Famous proverb goes . "Power corrupts people. But absolute power corrupts people absolutely". Now we are in corruption absolute version. sad.
Francois Gauiter ji we Indians support you even if the govt doesn't support you 🙏
Thank you, Sir
Recently we saw an IAS officer stopping the Athaletes from practicing after 7 PM just because he wanted his Dog to enjoy in Thyagraj Stadium. Over a period of time especially after Emergency large part of the Bureaucracy have disgraced themselves with unlimited power of course with protection of Politicians.
Truly disgusting behavior
This arrogant IAS couple tranfered to 2 seperate places immediately
I think these system of IAS and IPS should be discarded
As a Hindu I always thought BJP was a breath of fresh air but looking at how things are going i am having serious second thoughts unfortunately which is an indication of rising sentiments for 2024
No ,we can trust bjp ,but other parties are much worst n don't care about hindu sentiments at all.
Vijaya pillay do you think BJP is doing things in favour of Hindu's then you are in deep slumber wake up it is far worse then Congress in appeasment
@@RajeshPatel-fe8rn but removing article 370, triple talaq , UCC, Caa, n won case of ram temple in Ayodhya n fighting for all other holiest temples in court against muslims , banning hijab in educational institutions , banning loudspeaker in mosques ,talking for hindus , implementing various welfare schemes n projects for people , atleast they are doing far better not immediately but slowly n studily by taking in confidence of all people ,so i will go with them.
You can protest against Bjp but always remember that the opposition is anti Hindu and we will suffer even more injustice. Protest and support
@@vijayapillay8033Ram temple issue was hijacked by BJP
Afternoon removal of 370 the real situation has gone back to square one I think you should watch Ankur Sharma and Ashish Dhar who are kashmiri hindus what the BJP is doing in J K.what about the tracking of zakat money do you know what is the volume of that money and for what purpose that money is used for WAKF board is an illegal occupier of tax payers land what the BJP is doing regarding this. Missionary are converting at an alarming rate no action. Kashmir hindu are killed every other day.killing terrorist is not solution killing the ideology is.
Sab ka vishwas they are recruiting people of Jihadi mindset in Govt
Hats off to Francois gautier ji and his passion for India. Modi is correcting many wrongs done since independence. However he cannot do everything everyone expects. The Hindus in India have unite and take initiative to make small changes in their own communities. Little drops of water makes the ocean. The largest thing is Hindu unity. I have seen many many Hindus spread negative narratives about India. Learn from the West how they spread positive narratives about their countries.
Pune= Punya Nagri.
Didn't know. Thank you
If you follow the from where these commands to break arovil are comming you might reach the Vatican.
Francois Gautier’s a true friend of India. As an Indian Foreign Service officer of 1971 who has been following the developments of Auroville, I think it is important that his views must be respected and considered by GOVT of India.
The lady IAS officer referred to in the conversation was Collector of Godhra when Godhra happened , she was Health Secy when Corona happened.
What's the connection? Is she pro Modi?
@@SharkFishSF Not necessarily so, but if someone scratches the surface may be can see some different color.
We have to hear side of DM .
The residents will have to obey rules and regulations of place. Foreigners try to impose their own agendas which is not proper. 🌹❤️
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Good take action those distroy Arovill... Hindu Devotees Meditation..
I think you are only pointing one side of the picture. Aurovvile needs development.
The ordinary aurovillians are paying the price for the idealism of a few aurovillians. The DM is doing a good job. A 3 month extension is long enough for a person to renew his visa.
It also gets really dark at night without the lights working properly. And some places have pot holes that needs fixing too.
Develop how? Wasn't it a global 'village'?
thank you Francois ji.. even i am trying to take this to annamalai.. lets see
no email of mr francois provided
Sad.
The steel frame of India is now the steel cage of India
Pranam to Gautierji. You are a vision of serenity and erudition. Hope things improve in your second home Auroville. I know it takes more than a silly bureaucrat or even the preponderance of uncouth local politicians to derail your passion.
Looks like power struggle, my sympathies to residents. They need a person with political skills to solve the issue. Being naive westerner will not work. Would suggest long term residents to take Indian citizenship.
We are not allowed to "take citizenship", even if we left everything outside of India behind since long.
@@petramo4174 if you have lived in India for 12 years you are eligible for Indian citizenship.
These colonials will NEVER take Indian Citizenship, because in order to do so, they have to give up their so valued western passports! Do you think they came to Auroville to become "second class" citizens? Think again. These are hypocrites who will talk and talk until your ears are deaf, and never do anything meaningful.
Good riddance if they all leave, they have only colonised this place that was intended to host a spiritual project where people would be at the service of the Divine and the Truth. But all they do is talk and profiteer. Here they can have servants and nice houses, on land they did not have to pay one paisa for. Their western money has more value and can buy them a lifestyle they cannot dream of over there.
@@yoppindia any link to info on that? I think it's 11 years and not living but having even not left India for as many years, though many say it's not correct info and it's not possible. Currently, i have not left India for four years, a resident since 2012. However, I'll not insist on being here if not feeling welcome. 🙏🏼
@@worldoftruth9304 I'm from Sweden, not a colonising country and I think I'm anyway too young to have colonised anyone. Wow, how you speak of people you don't know. I wish you peace.
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Hope Mr Francois Gautier n his teams open message n request for help is answered positively. Bounds of Respects for Fracois sir for his accomplishments tasks on defending Indian culture n maintaining Auroville for its international stand. 👏👏👏👍🙏
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The way these bjp central leadership defending their own workers is without any doubt they'll not do anything. They are only thinking about their power. Sir very sure you will not get any help from them.
BJP has lost its revelennce it has become like they used to say about congress . Congress is Indira Indira is congress
Modi is BJP BJP is Modi
Francois Gautier is one of those rare journalists who gives the correct picture of India. He understands the greatness of this civilization and how the entire world can benefit from this. He has done a lot for the country and has gone at lengths to defend the country. Please listen to him.