"endgame" is a meme term that keeps you buying expensive boards in the hopes that one might cure your keyboard purchasing addiction. the real endgame is realizing you love the keyboards you have and you don't really need any more because the ones you have look, sound, and feel good, and they do what a keyboard does: type. be happy with what you have and save up for a new hobby, get a dirtbike or something. this is coming from someone who loves keyboards. trust me
It's just clickbait. The overwhelming majority of RUclipsrs, from the small ones to the incredibly established, have given up and are just following all the thumbnail and title gimmicks to get you to watch.
absolute fact. i have started to enjoy using my 2 keyboards (one for my main computer, one for work), even if stabilizers aren't perfect or whatever. they have soul in them and i like my keyboards for what they are, not what they could be. this also cured my switch purchasing addiction. i stick to what i have and all is well
Just want to say, every time I see your name and thumbnail in my subscriptions feed, I genuinely get a rush of joy that I get to watch a video from you. Thank you
I was never really a keyboard enthusiast, I just saw the opportunity to make my perfect board and I did, thanks to you and a lot of time and money t trying different things. Your videos helped me above all the other creators’, the last I “needed” being your video on the Akko Mod 003. Got one for myself in grey, waited for nigh on 3 years through covid for my GMK panels to arrive and at the perfect moment the zeal clickiez came out. Paired perfectly with the Rama works m6-C (the one that has a grey and prime colour retro gaming palette). Sure I kinda want a hall effect board for gaming but, mainly thanks to you and your videos, I can confidently say I have my endgame - I only come back to watch your uploads occasionally cause you’re a nice dude :)
This video actually made me appreciate my mister suit a bit more. I yearned for a vento but realized I was just bummed I didn't get the evolv and was fomoing on this one. The biggest thing I can appreciate about the vento aside from the matrix-esque design is that you can build it without the foams and have a nice bouncy typing experience and still get a good sound signature whereas the mister suit you kinda have to use all the foams because it sounded so weird without them but you end up with something stiffer.
Another great review, thanks Scott! The Vento does sound similar to the evolve, which is fine since that's also good. I also agree that I like the Suit more than either, but still another great release by Owllabs!
Great video as always scott! These kinds of boards are way out of reach for me, but I'm glad theres a way to listen to it :) cant wait for the next one!
Wow! Even with all the foam it still sound quite lively with the GMK caps! The Vento 80 actually sounds a little deeper but I think it's still got a little clack, just not as much.
I'm new to custom keyboard and I purchased a kzzi k75 pro (arcade model with kzzi moment pre lub linear switches). as soon I got it I tape mod it and changed the keycaps for something more translucent and ticker. I am happy with the sound, feel and quality of this setup. I sit on my desk everyday, write code and the sound it makes and feel makes me proud. This is my endgame keyboard.
@@KeyboredI've always been mechanical keyboard person. I've have razer blackwidow ultimate 2013. after that I got a black widow elite. they both retired now and in there boxes and still in functional condition. razer builds long lasting components. that being said, for sure my new k75 pro does sound and feel much better, I am not sure it will last as long as those razer. I guess time will tell haha.
Loving the content Scott (especially the Bond analogy)! Bummer about the hotswap sockets, I saw a board on Alexotos stream recently that was millmaxed from the factory, that seemed like something next level, I’d love to see that become the norm and replace the Kailh-style sockets! No risk of popping them out!
I'll be honest and say that Owlabs have kinda missed the mark, mainly because I think as a company they are kind of not sure where exactly they want to go for their higher end stuff compared to the qwertykey boards, particularly the neo series which pretty much captures most of the essence of old owlab boards in a ridiculously low price point due to high MOQ, simple-and-good design, and honestly these days, even wins out older owlab boards in the no-foam department, not to mention some pretty innovative engineering behind some of the board design choices like the magnetic quick connect, "stack" mounts options, etc. That left really little room to go for the higher end models besides going for more "aesthetic" choices, which, I really feel this is hit-and-miss, and acoustically a lot of these aesthetic choices end up being worse, and due to the intricacy involved in the machining, the cost also goes up significantly. It somewhat reminds me of the issue faced when monokei tried to bring out the more mainstream jane ME v2, which imo really misses the mark with the multitude of issues in terms of the engineering design, the acoustics, and also some QC problems that came together with it, all due to the aesthetic choice of "screwless" and a more modern look to the more "plain jane" look that, ironically, should design the jane. End game is personal, and so there's nothing wrong with folks who find this board end game, and there will definitely be folks who gets drawn strongly to the aesthetic of this board, which is definitely one of it's kind. It's just that I'm not a fan of the deviation of the owlabs brand from a more mainstream appeal kind of brand that's hard to get due to pricing/availability, to a brand that now a lot more niche (even more niche than matrixlabs from what I can tell), that also seem to have a lot of gimmicks rather than features.
I'm glad you mention about the kailh hotswap sockets, i have to be super careful to make sure they dont collapse but even the slightest mistake is costing me. i guess the only good thing is.. "it still works i guess" lol, the OCD in me feels weird knowing it's collapsed and my switch essentially has a bent pin but w/e.. it makes contact.. does what it needs to do.. its fine i guess
What I've heard is that endgame is just when you run out of money. But I think it obviously has to meet a sound, feel, aesthetic and level of functionality that you're happy with. And like you said, it needs to invoke that feeling of specialness. Not really sure if finding your endgame would stop you from purchasing new and upcoming keyboards though.
Very interesting to hear your take on the sound, I definitely trust what your view is given you've heard them (and vastly more boards) in person than I have, but from those sounds tests, the Mr Suit sounded more solid than the Vento which to me seemed almost more hollow of flimsy which is weird given the quality of construction and heft to the board
Man, the Vento80 is a masterpiece with one major design oversight. The spring and evolv both have 8 leaf springs but they only gave the bigger vento 6!? The entire left side of the board bottoms out with the slightest weight on it. I’ve seen alotnfo guys choose to sell theirs because it bottoms out so easily. Why are none of the reviewers sharing this obvious defect?
As always, loved your video. I personally think the suit just sounds a lottttt better. Idk if it's the switches, but for some reason it sounds empty even with all the foams--not so much hollow, but more dull. edit: it sounds like a modded gk61 with foams lmao
@@Keybored That's glad to hear, I hope that'll be enough to fine tune the sound to be a bit more full like the mr suit. Will you post an update or another sound test via shorts or anything?
It totally is a pain to deal with super flexy pcb/plate combos. I pretty much have to use a plate fork. Geon makes one and it's been pretty essential for foamless builds.
A one-off designed by yourself is the only true endgame; Literally cannot be more exclusive, holds sentimental value because you made it yourself, and can tune the looks and structure to your liking and your liking only. Which is why I have 2 of them and probably am going to make more
I find it so interesting that people would pick the Suit over this. I love my Suit! And I agree! But when the Suit came out all people did was complain about it not sounding great. Interesting to see how differently folks feel years later.
for whatever it’s worth, Alexotos has mentioned the issue with the latest Kailh sockets in some of his recent streams. I’m honestly so done with hotswap sockets that I’d prefer to buy a solder PCB and mill max, but I recognize that’s a hard sell for most.
@@187STER3305 are great, just wish they were a little less spendy! I’ll throw out that if you’re in the US, Mode Designs has sold them for cheaper than most other vendors in my experience ($0.24 / socket)
I have a QK100 with all the foams and it isn't my favorite foamy sound. I then got a QK75n without PE or case foam and it's one of my favorite sounding boards. Time to remove the foam from my QK100. Owlabs/Qwertykeys appears to have optimized it's keyboards without foam.
They are a bit different. The Vento feels softer in a tensioned spring kind of way, while the suit is a bit more dampened. Vento feels more lively while suit a bit subdued
Yeah the Kailh hotswap sockets are terrible compared to the V2 (v3?) Outemu sockets. I don’t know why nobody is using them… perhaps they're internal to Gazzew? Keebio boards have them, and it's magnificent. Better grip, keeps tension with more changes, and easier to insert
Where is the Voice. But after I tried Jelly V2 my endgame still Spring and Suger 80 Lite. And also if you like Owlab but cannot hit the raffle, you can try Precent Studio - Luna X1, PT990 and Volt 2 those are powered by Owlab
I personally enjoy it but I definitely understand why some people wouldn’t. it reminds me of the civic type r, where the aesthetic seems almost overdone
I was mistaken in my earlier comment after I paused from doing my daily 20,000 steps and saw that when he panned on the "expensive" keyboard @ the beginning it was in fact not a Q2 Series from Keychron, but I spat my water regardless lmao cuz from a distance it sure looks super similar for an expensive keyboard
the only reason why (in my opinion) i dont like the keyboard is the spacebar sounds really high pitched compare to the rest of the board with all foams. other than that this keyboard sounds amazing
I gotta say I agree the mr suit is better. Not a foam person, but even so the suit sounded better. Vento looks good, but the sound is a bit disappointing for the price tag
The design is awesome, the sound though.. I'm somehow not super convinced :/ I'm honestly still in awe of my Cycle7's no foam sound, and here I just don't get that sense of excitement for sound
yeah this board really needs foams to sound decent at best. It's just no competition in its foamless version against keyboards like the f1-8x that's on gb rn, the cycle7 and even their own neo 80 lol
These matter to me. They're trying to hard. I still rock my Tofu65 with my "pillow mount" idea I came up with. It's my everyday. Who would've thought. Just my thing. Timeless, simple design.
@@frankhoang9819 It's fucking amazing for the Tofu65. Completely changes it for the best AND keeps the board sounding even throughout the whole board (which is the main issue with tray-mounted boards). For this "pillow-mount" idea, all I did was change the stock M2x5 screws to M2x6 (you can also do M2x7 if you wish), tighten all the screws down as much as possible after stuffing the tray with PolyFill and added the silicone standoffs that are made for the Tofu65 (you can also use Poron Foam pieces on the screws on the base and top of the PCB. Easiest way to use foam is to use a hole-punch for paper, slide the punched foam circle over the screw). It's an amazing hack for the board and gives it an even sound throughout, great acoustics, deep thock/creaminess AND gives it some flex and bounce. The screws won't back out neither since they are tightened all they way.
Isn't it hilarious that these keyboard companies know their products are not worth what they ask for by a long shot, so they have to use artificial scarcity and exclusivity to distract
I do not find 'end game' keyboard. I just enjoy collecting the keyboards I like their design and maybe sell some of collection when I have more. I like to participate the raffle and do not buy overpriced resale. The concept end game is never real. There always something new, something better, something you wanna try it out.
Scott are you doing ok? You seemed a little blue in this episode. I hope all is well with you and I hope it’s just my imagination. Thanks as always for the videos -PAPA
@@Keybored Understandable, i have had a rough year myself. Lots of hospital visits and time off of work. Just letting you know that your videos always make my day, Scott. Keep crushing it.
I seriously don't like the look of this keyboard and the direction in which OwLab is going. I'm not denying that it's a good keyboard, because it probably is. But no matter how good it is, it's crossed out by my appearance. I'm a big fan of OwLab and TKL. I have two Mr Suits, but this keyboard is the biggest disappointment for me
I'm glad that their higher end products are wacky and out there! Not every high end keyboard should appeal to the masses and variety in the market is always a plus for the consumer. I'm still deciding if this is a raffle I want to sign up for since the design is so unique. the mr.suit is already peak keyboard imo!
Nice board, but pass from me, I’ve already got a Mr Suit and this is not unique enough for me to justify. Also I just bought a Kohaku and I’m broke now.
Lol there's no such thing as endgame, every new toy is always going to be an endgame until someone is mature enough to fully understand what contentment and detachment to material things
For me it is too much. I like simplicity in keyboards, no extra buttons, no screens etc.. I prefer endgame that has nice unique shape with proportions, top materials, perfect finishing and awesome sound.
"endgame" is a meme term that keeps you buying expensive boards in the hopes that one might cure your keyboard purchasing addiction. the real endgame is realizing you love the keyboards you have and you don't really need any more because the ones you have look, sound, and feel good, and they do what a keyboard does: type. be happy with what you have and save up for a new hobby, get a dirtbike or something. this is coming from someone who loves keyboards. trust me
realest comment i've seen in the past 10 years
this guy has climbed out of the rabbit hole, congratulations :D
It's just clickbait. The overwhelming majority of RUclipsrs, from the small ones to the incredibly established, have given up and are just following all the thumbnail and title gimmicks to get you to watch.
absolute fact. i have started to enjoy using my 2 keyboards (one for my main computer, one for work), even if stabilizers aren't perfect or whatever. they have soul in them and i like my keyboards for what they are, not what they could be.
this also cured my switch purchasing addiction. i stick to what i have and all is well
Endgame for me is having enough of stabalizers/keycap issues
Just want to say, every time I see your name and thumbnail in my subscriptions feed, I genuinely get a rush of joy that I get to watch a video from you. Thank you
Thank you so much! Gives me motivation to keep making more content!
i've been waiting for this review!!! so excited for VENTO80!!!
Hope it doesn't disappoint!
I was never really a keyboard enthusiast, I just saw the opportunity to make my perfect board and I did, thanks to you and a lot of time and money t trying different things.
Your videos helped me above all the other creators’, the last I “needed” being your video on the Akko Mod 003. Got one for myself in grey, waited for nigh on 3 years through covid for my GMK panels to arrive and at the perfect moment the zeal clickiez came out. Paired perfectly with the Rama works m6-C (the one that has a grey and prime colour retro gaming palette).
Sure I kinda want a hall effect board for gaming but, mainly thanks to you and your videos, I can confidently say I have my endgame - I only come back to watch your uploads occasionally cause you’re a nice dude :)
I love this channel always give me how I can expand criteria of judgement.
defff artistic design, such playful lookin board!
They did put in a lot of thought and effort into the details. But it seems like it's a bit polarizing based on the initial comments!
This video actually made me appreciate my mister suit a bit more. I yearned for a vento but realized I was just bummed I didn't get the evolv and was fomoing on this one. The biggest thing I can appreciate about the vento aside from the matrix-esque design is that you can build it without the foams and have a nice bouncy typing experience and still get a good sound signature whereas the mister suit you kinda have to use all the foams because it sounded so weird without them but you end up with something stiffer.
Wowie, I am digging this boards design
I think the board Def looks nicer in person! In hand it's such a heavy board lol
This is the keyboard I've been waiting for, and I hope I can buy it!🤩🤩
I hope you get selected!
Another great review, thanks Scott! The Vento does sound similar to the evolve, which is fine since that's also good. I also agree that I like the Suit more than either, but still another great release by Owllabs!
Great video as always scott! These kinds of boards are way out of reach for me, but I'm glad theres a way to listen to it :) cant wait for the next one!
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
Wow! Even with all the foam it still sound quite lively with the GMK caps! The Vento 80 actually sounds a little deeper but I think it's still got a little clack, just not as much.
Yup! It's a weighty keyboard so it's good that they got that out of it... Normally super heavy boards sound pretty dead
I'm new to custom keyboard and I purchased a kzzi k75 pro (arcade model with kzzi moment pre lub linear switches). as soon I got it I tape mod it and changed the keycaps for something more translucent and ticker. I am happy with the sound, feel and quality of this setup. I sit on my desk everyday, write code and the sound it makes and feel makes me proud. This is my endgame keyboard.
Haha glad you didn't fall into the rabbit hole!
@@KeyboredI've always been mechanical keyboard person. I've have razer blackwidow ultimate 2013. after that I got a black widow elite. they both retired now and in there boxes and still in functional condition. razer builds long lasting components. that being said, for sure my new k75 pro does sound and feel much better, I am not sure it will last as long as those razer. I guess time will tell haha.
I like how he used the palm rest to have the boards line up perfectly during cuts.
:)
Loving the content Scott (especially the Bond analogy)! Bummer about the hotswap sockets, I saw a board on Alexotos stream recently that was millmaxed from the factory, that seemed like something next level, I’d love to see that become the norm and replace the Kailh-style sockets! No risk of popping them out!
I feel millmax is a superior connection! Hope more manufactures adopt this
@@Keyboredsame, that's the dream!!
it's beautiful
I'll be honest and say that Owlabs have kinda missed the mark, mainly because I think as a company they are kind of not sure where exactly they want to go for their higher end stuff compared to the qwertykey boards, particularly the neo series which pretty much captures most of the essence of old owlab boards in a ridiculously low price point due to high MOQ, simple-and-good design, and honestly these days, even wins out older owlab boards in the no-foam department, not to mention some pretty innovative engineering behind some of the board design choices like the magnetic quick connect, "stack" mounts options, etc. That left really little room to go for the higher end models besides going for more "aesthetic" choices, which, I really feel this is hit-and-miss, and acoustically a lot of these aesthetic choices end up being worse, and due to the intricacy involved in the machining, the cost also goes up significantly.
It somewhat reminds me of the issue faced when monokei tried to bring out the more mainstream jane ME v2, which imo really misses the mark with the multitude of issues in terms of the engineering design, the acoustics, and also some QC problems that came together with it, all due to the aesthetic choice of "screwless" and a more modern look to the more "plain jane" look that, ironically, should design the jane.
End game is personal, and so there's nothing wrong with folks who find this board end game, and there will definitely be folks who gets drawn strongly to the aesthetic of this board, which is definitely one of it's kind. It's just that I'm not a fan of the deviation of the owlabs brand from a more mainstream appeal kind of brand that's hard to get due to pricing/availability, to a brand that now a lot more niche (even more niche than matrixlabs from what I can tell), that also seem to have a lot of gimmicks rather than features.
I really like the Vento look and sound. If I had big money, that would be something I'd go for.
Owlab and Wuque are definitely killing the game imo !
Their latest stuff is so polished... Freya and this
I'm glad you mention about the kailh hotswap sockets, i have to be super careful to make sure they dont collapse but even the slightest mistake is costing me. i guess the only good thing is.. "it still works i guess" lol, the OCD in me feels weird knowing it's collapsed and my switch essentially has a bent pin but w/e.. it makes contact.. does what it needs to do.. its fine i guess
On one of my collapsed sockets that wasn't making contact anymore I just put a little tin foil on my pin, pushed down and the socket worked again lol.
Another banger board from Owlab!
I would still pick Mr.Suit over the Vento 80 as well because of the sound profile and F13 key.
Mr.Suit is a classic!
What I've heard is that endgame is just when you run out of money. But I think it obviously has to meet a sound, feel, aesthetic and level of functionality that you're happy with. And like you said, it needs to invoke that feeling of specialness. Not really sure if finding your endgame would stop you from purchasing new and upcoming keyboards though.
Very interesting to hear your take on the sound, I definitely trust what your view is given you've heard them (and vastly more boards) in person than I have, but from those sounds tests, the Mr Suit sounded more solid than the Vento which to me seemed almost more hollow of flimsy which is weird given the quality of construction and heft to the board
I like the James Bond and Mr Suit thread line 😉
Glad you liked it!
what are the keycap set you have at 2:26?
Ooooooh I really love it…… I hope to win this time the reffle❤
Great video! I'm currently deciding if I want to sign up for the Vento raffle or F1-8x V2 group buy.
Tough choice!
Man, the Vento80 is a masterpiece with one major design oversight. The spring and evolv both have 8 leaf springs but they only gave the bigger vento 6!? The entire left side of the board bottoms out with the slightest weight on it. I’ve seen alotnfo guys choose to sell theirs because it bottoms out so easily. Why are none of the reviewers sharing this obvious defect?
Pumped to have won the raffle for this
Is there an ambient light at the back like the jelly evolv?
As always, loved your video. I personally think the suit just sounds a lottttt better. Idk if it's the switches, but for some reason it sounds empty even with all the foams--not so much hollow, but more dull. edit: it sounds like a modded gk61 with foams lmao
Lol. I actually provided some feedback to Owlab and they're sending me a few new parts to try out!
@@Keybored That's glad to hear, I hope that'll be enough to fine tune the sound to be a bit more full like the mr suit. Will you post an update or another sound test via shorts or anything?
It totally is a pain to deal with super flexy pcb/plate combos. I pretty much have to use a plate fork. Geon makes one and it's been pretty essential for foamless builds.
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A one-off designed by yourself is the only true endgame; Literally cannot be more exclusive, holds sentimental value because you made it yourself, and can tune the looks and structure to your liking and your liking only. Which is why I have 2 of them and probably am going to make more
That's awesome! I hope I can one day also, but the pressure!
I find it so interesting that people would pick the Suit over this.
I love my Suit! And I agree! But when the Suit came out all people did was complain about it not sounding great. Interesting to see how differently folks feel years later.
Prob came so far now that sound probably truly became subjective haha
endgame keyboard is the friends we made along the way
You know what? You are probably right
This board is like a Owlab x Matrix Labs mashup
wouldn't the flex cause that magnetic connector to lose connection?
THE FIRST WHO MENTIONS THE PROBLEM WITH THE HOT-SWAP SOCKETS! The collapsing leaf-springs are the worst!!!
for whatever it’s worth, Alexotos has mentioned the issue with the latest Kailh sockets in some of his recent streams. I’m honestly so done with hotswap sockets that I’d prefer to buy a solder PCB and mill max, but I recognize that’s a hard sell for most.
@@ImOnMy116 welcome to the club ;) I already have the mill max 3305 for the next project. (Also plan to get the upcoming KB with solder PCB)
@@187STER3305 are great, just wish they were a little less spendy! I’ll throw out that if you’re in the US, Mode Designs has sold them for cheaper than most other vendors in my experience ($0.24 / socket)
I have a QK100 with all the foams and it isn't my favorite foamy sound. I then got a QK75n without PE or case foam and it's one of my favorite sounding boards. Time to remove the foam from my QK100. Owlabs/Qwertykeys appears to have optimized it's keyboards without foam.
It's definitely gotten much better over the years!
Isnt that the jelly evolve but changed?
Watched this channel on 2020-2021 came to see again and got surprised w that ridiculous haircut😂😂😂😂 that haircut is too good
Hahaha while in Korea, gotta do as the Koreans do!
I’ve seen you mention this in a few videos now, how do you recover from a Kailh hot swap socket failure?
You can't... You use it with the pin all janky since it still makes contact... Have to de solder and replace it... Such a pain
Hey Keybored, what do you think of the "feel" comparison of Suit vs Vento?
They are a bit different. The Vento feels softer in a tensioned spring kind of way, while the suit is a bit more dampened. Vento feels more lively while suit a bit subdued
Yeah the Kailh hotswap sockets are terrible compared to the V2 (v3?) Outemu sockets. I don’t know why nobody is using them… perhaps they're internal to Gazzew? Keebio boards have them, and it's magnificent. Better grip, keeps tension with more changes, and easier to insert
Not sure what happened to them... I had no issues with Kaihl until last year and the lots of issues consistently... What's up with that!
Where is the Voice. But after I tried Jelly V2 my endgame still Spring and Suger 80 Lite.
And also if you like Owlab but cannot hit the raffle, you can try Precent Studio - Luna X1, PT990 and Volt 2 those are powered by Owlab
I personally enjoy it but I definitely understand why some people wouldn’t. it reminds me of the civic type r, where the aesthetic seems almost overdone
Hahaha perfect analogy!
is this the ano silver colorway?
Wow if you missed out on the Jelly Evolv, this could be the best replacement to that.
This right here
So… when are we getting that Keybored Keyboard? :D
I thought about it a few times but always the fear of disappointment keeps me from making the jump lol
@@Keybored that’s very fair, honestly. Getting the costs down to a reasonable amount also sounds like it could be a nightmare for a new designer.
Polling rate?
I was mistaken in my earlier comment after I paused from doing my daily 20,000 steps and saw that when he panned on the "expensive" keyboard @ the beginning it was in fact not a Q2 Series from Keychron, but I spat my water regardless lmao cuz from a distance it sure looks super similar for an expensive keyboard
I really wish someone would make an "endgame" 96% keyboard with a knob encoder, a couple macro keys, aluminum chassis, and a brass plate.
How can you get it?
the only reason why (in my opinion) i dont like the keyboard is the spacebar sounds really high pitched compare to the rest of the board with all foams. other than that this keyboard sounds amazing
I literally just had a kailh hotswap collapse on me yesterday but i managed to salvage it
Such a pain! I don't see this issue with gaterons or older Kaihl... What's going on with the new stuff
idk if its just me or finding this channel through the search bar was impossible
RUclips hates me :(
A definition of end game is when you have achieved all your goals and are just playing for fun.
Problem with me is that the goal line keeps changing hahaha
Keycap selection colors looking like black diamond 75
Hahahaha you know what? I didn't even think about that. I thought the red vs blue samurai would be fun
I was hoping that red button was a nub mouse like on old ThinkPad laptops. I've been wanting a pc keyboard with a TrackPoint for a min.
Is the plate fork in the room with us
I need one...
If you're not daily driving a split 30% column staggered keyboard you're far from the end, keep on going you'll get there.
Hahahaha
How does it compare to Evolv?
Very similar. But it feels more polished than evolv.
I gotta say I agree the mr suit is better. Not a foam person, but even so the suit sounded better. Vento looks good, but the sound is a bit disappointing for the price tag
Mr.Suit is a legend! It's always been one of those boards when I take it somewhere and people try it out, they know it's special :)
@@Keybored I’ve tried it, was nice, unlucky it was right next to a F1 8X OG, so it never really got me sold
Can't believe hot swap sockets are failing...gotta say, I prefer Mr. Suite sound from the video. Still, I like how companies always try new stuff
Mr Suit sounds much better if you want the traditional pe foam sound.
The design is awesome, the sound though.. I'm somehow not super convinced :/ I'm honestly still in awe of my Cycle7's no foam sound, and here I just don't get that sense of excitement for sound
yeah this board really needs foams to sound decent at best. It's just no competition in its foamless version against keyboards like the f1-8x that's on gb rn, the cycle7 and even their own neo 80 lol
@@minji_ yeah for the price it's kinda crazy...
Cycle 7 is pretty awesome esp foe the price
These matter to me. They're trying to hard. I still rock my Tofu65 with my "pillow mount" idea I came up with. It's my everyday. Who would've thought. Just my thing. Timeless, simple design.
Pillow mount, can you show me? Is it good?
@@frankhoang9819 It's fucking amazing for the Tofu65. Completely changes it for the best AND keeps the board sounding even throughout the whole board (which is the main issue with tray-mounted boards). For this "pillow-mount" idea, all I did was change the stock M2x5 screws to M2x6 (you can also do M2x7 if you wish), tighten all the screws down as much as possible after stuffing the tray with PolyFill and added the silicone standoffs that are made for the Tofu65 (you can also use Poron Foam pieces on the screws on the base and top of the PCB. Easiest way to use foam is to use a hole-punch for paper, slide the punched foam circle over the screw). It's an amazing hack for the board and gives it an even sound throughout, great acoustics, deep thock/creaminess AND gives it some flex and bounce. The screws won't back out neither since they are tightened all they way.
How are these $500+ projects still thriving when you can get prebuilt quality keyboards both mechanical and rapid trigger for $100-150?
Isn't it hilarious that these keyboard companies know their products are not worth what they ask for by a long shot, so they have to use artificial scarcity and exclusivity to distract
To me the Endgame is my Mammoth 75. By that I just mean the best that I can archive and closest to perfection
That's a great board
Usually really love all of Owl labs boards but this one just looks a little too busy for my liking. Still seems pretty nice though
Def has a lot more detail... Prob the most of any owlabs board so far.
It's insane to think that keyboard weighs as much as an AR-15.
OwlStab v3 was not that good before in China sales, somehow the wire always scratch the top
And I think u should try some HMX Cheese, Tecsee is good but HMX has best sounds
wow does anybody know what the keycaps/Keyboard is @0:07?
Pbt fans twist!
Thank you!@@Keybored too bad that I've missed out. BTW What board is it?
I do not find 'end game' keyboard. I just enjoy collecting the keyboards I like their design and maybe sell some of collection when I have more. I like to participate the raffle and do not buy overpriced resale. The concept end game is never real. There always something new, something better, something you wanna try it out.
0:00 it's price
That the new Korean style?
Hahaha when in Rome!
Looks great but sounds like a QK80 to me and for that price?! I think I’ll skip this one.
‘Ancient astronaut theorists’ 💀💀
Hahaha he's a legend... Even more than the Mr.Suit
There is no endgame. The hobby is about trying new boards and switches. Its fun. It isn’t some false destination.
No final destination hahaha
The true endgame is a keyboard so expensive you couldn’t possibly justify spending money on a keyboard again 😉
Might be this!
Endgame is when your wallet is empty.
This is so real, lol
Mission accomplished
There's no "endgame" in this hobby. It's more like pokemon, gotta catch them all!
Well, not all, just what I like...
Haha true... We can never be content!
Scott are you doing ok? You seemed a little blue in this episode. I hope all is well with you and I hope it’s just my imagination.
Thanks as always for the videos
-PAPA
Thanks for asking! I think everyone struggles with something but it's good to know that there are people that care!
@@Keybored Understandable, i have had a rough year myself. Lots of hospital visits and time off of work. Just letting you know that your videos always make my day, Scott. Keep crushing it.
I seriously don't like the look of this keyboard and the direction in which OwLab is going. I'm not denying that it's a good keyboard, because it probably is. But no matter how good it is, it's crossed out by my appearance. I'm a big fan of OwLab and TKL. I have two Mr Suits, but this keyboard is the biggest disappointment for me
Haha probably because you have 2 Mr.Suits! Once you have those in possession, not many can step up to them without going rare rare
I'm glad that their higher end products are wacky and out there! Not every high end keyboard should appeal to the masses and variety in the market is always a plus for the consumer. I'm still deciding if this is a raffle I want to sign up for since the design is so unique. the mr.suit is already peak keyboard imo!
Owns 5 Owlab boards, calls them Owlabs
Hahaha because plural
Sounds good, but I have no positive comments about its appearance.
:)
Get an ergo-something, you need thumbclusters.
Nice design but sounds like every other QK/OwlLabs board.
I do prefer the sound of their older stuff
The only thing I hate is that thing with the red button on the arrrow keys, I find it really ugly.
:) maybe they can have a different color
No ISO
matrix for poor people :D
but definitly nice board
Vento looks so alive and fun but sounds a little boring. Mr. Suit is the very opposite. If we swap the sounds of these two, I would want them both :)
Kohaku is endgame
I need one
Nice board, but pass from me, I’ve already got a Mr Suit and this is not unique enough for me to justify.
Also I just bought a Kohaku and I’m broke now.
I need a kohaku also
510 and still no ISO?! disappointed!
Haha, I should check if they have an iso option as one of the choices!
It looks cool but I've heard $20 keebs that sound better.
It’s very masculine…
Lol there's no such thing as endgame, every new toy is always going to be an endgame until someone is mature enough to fully understand what contentment and detachment to material things
For me it is too much. I like simplicity in keyboards, no extra buttons, no screens etc.. I prefer endgame that has nice unique shape with proportions, top materials, perfect finishing and awesome sound.
You're more a Mr. suit kind of guy!