I'm a Storm Main, not an Enthusias. But yh, storm mains we up. I really think we needed a little Movement boost or that her primary fire was unlimited.
She’s way too slow I think her reload should be quicker since Hawkeye doesn’t ever have to reload his quiver and she’s an omega level mutant doing worse damage than a dude with a bow
@@joselitoluis7727 OH youre talking about what if s3?? the entire season was kinda ass ngl... entertaining BUT extremely soft compared to the other what if variants
As a storm main from day 1. Lord level proficiency, I’m stoked to finally have these buffs. She’s needed them. I’ve been sweeping like crazy already, working with what she had, but now that she’s getting according buffs, I’m going to go crazy.
shit what ever gets people to stop banning her there's 0 playable high damage per shot hitscans in ranked. Widow is awful and hela is banned 90% of the time
I mean I think they already buffed her dmg, so if I do the maths right she can know kill a 275 hp person with 4 shots instead of 5 and she used to deal 50 dmg so she might deal 72 dmg now while in thunder mode, with her passive (+16%) and +15% seasonal boost she would deal 89,08 dmgs per shot and with the boost she would have up to 45% dmg boost for 15 secs so 98 dmgs per shot 😭 that would be kinda crazy ngl she would 3 shoot healers and dps while piercing and generating ult and her bonus dps from the thunder boost she would be a true goddess but oh well if that ever happens
The only thing she really needed imo was a buff to her goddess boost. so she can speed up more frequently and get those lightning strikes more often too.
Loki getting indirectly buffed too, since now he'll be able to copy Storm ultimates a lot more often with her higher pick rate Storm's ult is arguably the best in the game, but he never got to copy it since no one played Storm
Her enhanced wind state should buff her attack speed too imo, so it’s not just for movement speed and slow. As it is the enhanced wind state is very underwhelming still
Just waiting for Widow to get her buffs now. I don't mind not being able to one shot, but they can at least give her the ability to reload while sprinting. Add in some anti heal for her ult so that it actually counters support ults.
NAH FAM, SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ONE SHOT. HOW CAN AN ARROW 1 SHOT BUT NOT A BULLET????? (oh but hawkeye needs to charge~ blah blah blah) THEN MAKE HER CHARGE TOO IDC LET HER 1 SHOT.
@@genshinF2Play Imma be honest. Hitscan snipers shouldn't one shot, and for good reason. Widow is incredibly easy to use for players with competent aim, hence why the other Widow from OW2 is running rampant in Ranked atm. She'll instantly become oppressive. Imagine fighting against a good Black Widow that you can never reach unless your whole team runs dive. Shit is not fun.
lucky for you they did buff widow. they made her ult windup faster( .6 seconds was 1 second). Total time to recharge sprint reduced from 12 seconds to 4 seconds). and they increased the range of her kick from 3 meters to 5 meters, hope this helps💛
IMO as a Storm main since the beta these buffs bring her up to A tier the only reason I won’t say she’s S tier is her base movement speed is still kinda slow (obviously I haven’t played her yet but I’ll make a final judgement soon)
Honestly, it's reloading is for character balance, and I think they just wanted her to have conjuring animations to make her feel like the character more, lol.
@@tkm1875 I honestly don't mind the reloading if the damage is sufficient. It was community frustration that she's an Omega level mutant with the weakest dps but now that's gonna change
I’m a storm main myself; however I’m not her to often because of her output of damage. Also her being an easy target to swat like a fly 😂. My bf always teases me when I do play her lol. Now I can use her more often esp in competitive matches.
Okay, so I’m gonna talk about Storm in a wider/broader way here, outside of how bad/good she is season 0-to-1, because we all need to acknowledge and talk about this.. Storm’s design is still, fundamentally, flawed. being a synergist-dps as she is the devs have clearly put themselves in a tricky spot. a damage kit that wants distance but a synergist kit that needs to be in brawl range to do anything is a wild contrast to begin with. the thing that could unite these two conflicting parts would be her speed to pull back or go in depending on the situation, but tied to her team-buffing auras means they can’t do that without potentially making her too strong, which leaves her slow and floaty and she will always be easy to snipe at range this way. right now, most players agree she’s underwhelming, who knows what season 1 will make of her, but to make her viable in any one core aspect (dps side or synergist side) always risks her becoming a must-pick by merely having the other. she could so easily become a stat monster, and yet if they don’t buff her stats she’ll stay too weak.. unless they change her design somewhere, I think her balance will always be difficult and prone to making her weak and unfulfilling to play or hated by everyone because she’s way too strong, sometimes within the same patch just because the meta shifts to suddenly stack her onto other overpowered things.
whatever dude shut up They are clearly doing mix-ups Lots of strategists and kill or do other things, including the newly released Sue storm. Mr Fantastic is duelist/tank mix. It's better they do this for gameplay variety and actually getting people to play other roles besides "pure" duelists.
@ no you shut up, rude af For a start Sue Storm is not a hybrid, she’s a full synergist, I’m not talking about full synergists, I’m not even talking about other dps with role overlap, I’m talking SPECIFICALLY about STORM and her flawed design.. it’s not that she has synergist overlap, it’s how it’s been implemented, and how it is clearly difficult for them to buff her without overpowering her or making her too good with other compositions, and how they might need to rework her in certain parts to find a more focused design that can still have role overlap without risking people hating on her or those that want to play her.. forward thinking.. not that I expect that from you
@@FredMaverikthat was really unnecessary and rude. Storm *is* in a sticky spot rn and she needs a buff in some form. Shame on you for the rude response.
@@WaitIamWatching What Storm really needs is a unique right click skill for her speed mode. Be it some kind of self anti projectile wind bubble or just a dash. But yeah, something like 15% self speed buff for speed mode would be great.
Hmmm still cautious. I feel like her issues were a kit issue not damage. If shes not going to have an escape or cc she needs faster base movement. If she going to be projectile not hit scan her magazine needs to be 1 to two more shots.
Hopefully, they will fix the desend button configuration so I can finally change it from "R1" to "R2". Their is a glitch that if you change the desend button to anything else, you will not desend and only work on a "R1" button. Im talking about PS5.
Yeah I think just adding a spd Boost to wind form would've really been the final perfect touch but alas😅. I'll take the damage buff tho. At least we got a buff. Scarlet witch and squirrel girl mains suffering😢.
@ne_kovan4166 exactly. I hope people stay in their lane and let us actual Storm players enjoy these changes undisturbed. It all depends on what tier their favorite RUclipsr puts her in.
I think its bcuz of her base dmg boost upgrade if I did the maths right she could go up to 98 dmg with her boost and a 15% seasonal dmg boost that in total would give her 45% dmg boost from the buffed dmg shes gonna have ( I hope that the dmg buff isnt the seasonal buff cuz imma riot)
Now storm can actually stand a chance against scarlet witch! I hate how she can just walk forward pressing a single button and “earn” a kill. And her flying is arguably faster than storm’s! I seriously *loath* fighting scarlet witch as Storm. I can NEVER fly away. With these buffs maybe now I won’t have to anymore.
I went to practice mode and the difference is her primary fire of wind blades. It takes 10 to destroy a galacta bot before buffs. Her flight was slow. And seeing this is an improvement and I love playing storm
She's still slower than regular walking speed and Hela and Hawkeye are still VERY oppressive against her still. She's very much still at the bottom of the tier list, buffs aside. The only thing i really like is that she maintains her over-health when using her ult now so she doesn't get instantly melted when finishing ult. I would trade that for dmg or some type of field control(like tossing enemies around when caught in the tornado) but i guess this is better than nothing.
she literally isn't mfs just say sh*t. She moves at 6m/s like almost everyone else. The fact that you thought they'd actually specifically make her singularly slower rather than it just being ur perception bcuz she's a flyer is pretty telling that you don't know what ur talking about
In fairness, even the devs did not buff her movement speed, she is now a killer. Really feels she's a true duelist now. I still hope in the next season she'll have faster movement when flying or add her some thunder flying dash power or somethin'
Wind more for speed and defence, right? Why her right click on wind mode is lighting? They could change it for wind dash or anti projectile wind bubble
5% is very little compared too other seasonal buffs I also think that storms attacks should pierce shields, like a counter to dr strange, cap america etc them shields not hp shields
@@jordanandrews5686 Doesn’t that teammup have torch as the anchor, not Storm? I thought it was Johnny enhancing Storm’s ultimate, not the other way around
i like that even though they nerfed certain characters, they didn’t outright gut them. it’s refreshing considering how terrible certain characters were treated in overwatch… ahem mercy…
15 seconds is still too long if the damage isn't good. "Team-up" attacks should DO DAMAGE. Make it worth the cooldown time and significance of a team-up. And she NEEDS to be much faster. Nobody running on foot should be faster than her unless it's Quicksilver, lol.
Her team skill is a lame variation of right click Since she's AOE dps, they should've change that skill to AOE lightning zone you can place near you for x seconds
Correction. As a Storm main and one trick. She was already great , she’s just even better now. People slept on her cuz they didn’t know how to play her. And most still don’t. But I like that she does ah e a skill gap to play her. Now she gonna get banned every game with Sue. But we up even more now.
The only real issue with Storm was that most people don't know how to play her. She was good before and I think people are still going to struggle with her
GIRL, storm is STILL a flop, her dps/mobility kit is still a sphere that diseappears if you fly up in the air...gosh, these devs dont know ANYTHING about Storm, why the F does she still have a reload to her power??? she's a MUTANT.
I dont think this 5% season damage makes her viable. Storm need another ability in my opinion it should be an airdodge on cooldown because your so slow in the air or a slam to the ground with a cooldown so you can get on the ground faster.
I'm a Storm Main, not an Enthusias. But yh, storm mains we up.
I really think we needed a little Movement boost or that her primary fire was unlimited.
*Reloads air*
@@BigPro1123reloading my wind 🌪️
I’m a storm main too and I just Got Lord on her last night !! And now were getting a buff 😅 lets gooo !!! Now I can carry even harder lol
I also main storm and ive been averaging 20+ kills per game, now the fun really begins
She’s way too slow I think her reload should be quicker since Hawkeye doesn’t ever have to reload his quiver and she’s an omega level mutant doing worse damage than a dude with a bow
So glad to see storm’s flop era was short lived! The wrath of the goddess continues!
Well said
It should've never been a thing. They insulted such a powerful character.
@@tkm1875its appropriate... considering some live action movies never gave storm the right energy to begin with.
@@daeity1and the new animated series also did her dirty at the end
@@joselitoluis7727 OH youre talking about what if s3?? the entire season was kinda ass ngl... entertaining BUT extremely soft compared to the other what if variants
The extra bonus health she gets from her ult now decays instead of vanishing after ulting i think
I noticed that too. That's so huge, cuz now you're not prone to getting one shot after ulting which is amazing.
As a storm main from day 1. Lord level proficiency, I’m stoked to finally have these buffs. She’s needed them. I’ve been sweeping like crazy already, working with what she had, but now that she’s getting according buffs, I’m going to go crazy.
Storm Buffs Hela and Hawkeye nerfs an amazing battle pass Cloak and Dagger buffs AND invisible woman oh we are eating so good time to drop the ow 😌
NEVER!!!
It’s funny because this is the first game that actually made me stop playing ow
Cloak and dagger definitely didn't need help
I can’t believe I’ve been defending overwatch for so long 😢 invisible woman is such a diva
Hela and Hawkeye were already trash and storm isn't touching my peni or black panther I've seen like 4 people play her since launch
Her ult got buffed to
Bonus health gain from 600 to 700.
Now your bonus health decays over 3s after ulting instead of immediately.
I got Storm to Lord before this, I'm gonna tear it up lmao
Sameee
Same
fr
Same! Made it to Plat 2 in ranked. I'm going eternal.
Eternal Lord storm here, aiming for top 1
nick: Daniulo
Isn’t it NICE when the DEVS listen to the COMMUNITY. I love this game!
So, Hella and Hawkeye are getting a 15% damage boost but Storm only gets 5%. That’s crazy they should be swapped.
shit what ever gets people to stop banning her there's 0 playable high damage per shot hitscans in ranked. Widow is awful and hela is banned 90% of the time
I mean I think they already buffed her dmg, so if I do the maths right she can know kill a 275 hp person with 4 shots instead of 5 and she used to deal 50 dmg so she might deal 72 dmg now while in thunder mode, with her passive (+16%) and +15% seasonal boost she would deal 89,08 dmgs per shot and with the boost she would have up to 45% dmg boost for 15 secs so 98 dmgs per shot 😭 that would be kinda crazy ngl she would 3 shoot healers and dps while piercing and generating ult and her bonus dps from the thunder boost she would be a true goddess but oh well if that ever happens
@@judomaster8629 yeah no that would be WAAAAAAY too much
The only thing she really needed imo was a buff to her goddess boost. so she can speed up more frequently and get those lightning strikes more often too.
Not the only thing, lol. She NEEDED damage boost as well as the other things you mentioned.
Loki getting indirectly buffed too, since now he'll be able to copy Storm ultimates a lot more often with her higher pick rate
Storm's ult is arguably the best in the game, but he never got to copy it since no one played Storm
Her enhanced wind state should buff her attack speed too imo, so it’s not just for movement speed and slow. As it is the enhanced wind state is very underwhelming still
I was already a fan of Storm, now this is even better!
p2mg really showed how broken she actually is, but she needs to be played as a lucio/sona, not as how you would play your other duelists.
“i know a lot of you are storm enthusiasts” girl just call us gay at this point IJBOL😭
frr, on a similar note im buying the invisible girl skin at 1am when the update launches for me
Just waiting for Widow to get her buffs now. I don't mind not being able to one shot, but they can at least give her the ability to reload while sprinting. Add in some anti heal for her ult so that it actually counters support ults.
NAH FAM, SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ONE SHOT. HOW CAN AN ARROW 1 SHOT BUT NOT A BULLET????? (oh but hawkeye needs to charge~ blah blah blah) THEN MAKE HER CHARGE TOO IDC LET HER 1 SHOT.
@@genshinF2Play Imma be honest. Hitscan snipers shouldn't one shot, and for good reason. Widow is incredibly easy to use for players with competent aim, hence why the other Widow from OW2 is running rampant in Ranked atm. She'll instantly become oppressive. Imagine fighting against a good Black Widow that you can never reach unless your whole team runs dive. Shit is not fun.
@@genshinF2Play Can't she one shot with mantis' boost ?
lucky for you they did buff widow. they made her ult windup faster( .6 seconds was 1 second). Total time to recharge sprint reduced from 12 seconds to 4 seconds). and they increased the range of her kick from 3 meters to 5 meters, hope this helps💛
@@-NoNo. Good. She still needs to be able to reload while sprinting though. lol. Helps fighting off dive characters a lot less clunky.
IMO as a Storm main since the beta these buffs bring her up to A tier the only reason I won’t say she’s S tier is her base movement speed is still kinda slow (obviously I haven’t played her yet but I’ll make a final judgement soon)
2025 we're reloading wind with pride. I wanted to main her on drop but now it's guaranteed
Honestly, it's reloading is for character balance, and I think they just wanted her to have conjuring animations to make her feel like the character more, lol.
@@tkm1875 I honestly don't mind the reloading if the damage is sufficient. It was community frustration that she's an Omega level mutant with the weakest dps but now that's gonna change
5:38 ariana what are you doing here
I’m a storm main myself; however I’m not her to often because of her output of damage. Also her being an easy target to swat like a fly 😂. My bf always teases me when I do play her lol. Now I can use her more often esp in competitive matches.
Okay, so I’m gonna talk about Storm in a wider/broader way here, outside of how bad/good she is season 0-to-1, because we all need to acknowledge and talk about this.. Storm’s design is still, fundamentally, flawed.
being a synergist-dps as she is the devs have clearly put themselves in a tricky spot.
a damage kit that wants distance but a synergist kit that needs to be in brawl range to do anything is a wild contrast to begin with. the thing that could unite these two conflicting parts would be her speed to pull back or go in depending on the situation, but tied to her team-buffing auras means they can’t do that without potentially making her too strong, which leaves her slow and floaty and she will always be easy to snipe at range this way.
right now, most players agree she’s underwhelming, who knows what season 1 will make of her, but to make her viable in any one core aspect (dps side or synergist side) always risks her becoming a must-pick by merely having the other. she could so easily become a stat monster, and yet if they don’t buff her stats she’ll stay too weak.. unless they change her design somewhere, I think her balance will always be difficult and prone to making her weak and unfulfilling to play or hated by everyone because she’s way too strong, sometimes within the same patch just because the meta shifts to suddenly stack her onto other overpowered things.
whatever dude shut up
They are clearly doing mix-ups
Lots of strategists and kill or do other things, including the newly released Sue storm. Mr Fantastic is duelist/tank mix. It's better they do this for gameplay variety and actually getting people to play other roles besides "pure" duelists.
@ no you shut up, rude af
For a start Sue Storm is not a hybrid, she’s a full synergist, I’m not talking about full synergists, I’m not even talking about other dps with role overlap, I’m talking SPECIFICALLY about STORM and her flawed design.. it’s not that she has synergist overlap, it’s how it’s been implemented, and how it is clearly difficult for them to buff her without overpowering her or making her too good with other compositions, and how they might need to rework her in certain parts to find a more focused design that can still have role overlap without risking people hating on her or those that want to play her.. forward thinking.. not that I expect that from you
@@FredMaverikthat was really unnecessary and rude. Storm *is* in a sticky spot rn and she needs a buff in some form. Shame on you for the rude response.
@FredMaverik You prolly didn't even think about what they had to say, yet had the audacity to be an asshole.
@@WaitIamWatching What Storm really needs is a unique right click skill for her speed mode. Be it some kind of self anti projectile wind bubble or just a dash. But yeah, something like 15% self speed buff for speed mode would be great.
Hmmm still cautious. I feel like her issues were a kit issue not damage. If shes not going to have an escape or cc she needs faster base movement. If she going to be projectile not hit scan her magazine needs to be 1 to two more shots.
4:50 MAMA A WHALE BEHIND YOU
LMAO STOP 😭
Penni Parker isn’t there, hope this helps! 💕
@@waitnodani oh you ate this
The buff has made Storm slower. This is ridiculous, they've made her worse. She needed more speed not less. Go see for yourself.
Hopefully, they will fix the desend button configuration so I can finally change it from "R1" to "R2".
Their is a glitch that if you change the desend button to anything else, you will not desend and only work on a "R1" button.
Im talking about PS5.
Same for me on xbox and its so wack it makes so much more sense to not have the flying inverted.
Its messed me up a few times trying to get away
She was always good, now she’s gonna be easier to play
Undermining a character is not fashion, lol. She needed the damage buff and cooldown reduction.
She needs more speed
Idc about more dmg
Yeah I think just adding a spd Boost to wind form would've really been the final perfect touch but alas😅. I'll take the damage buff tho.
At least we got a buff. Scarlet witch and squirrel girl mains suffering😢.
@@dominicwilliams214squirrel girl is getting a buff though. It for her ultimate though
She should have a blink skill
The movement did make it feel different it felt faster or fluid seeing that she could escape in the middle of the team fight by changing to wind.
I just needed her to move faster!!! Please😩😫
She was already great...ppl just didn't know how to play her. Now she is next level.
I’m just scared every flops can now abuse her when they were the ones who blame people playing her
@@ne_kovan4166 exactly fake asses ...
@ne_kovan4166 exactly. I hope people stay in their lane and let us actual Storm players enjoy these changes undisturbed. It all depends on what tier their favorite RUclipsr puts her in.
@ Exactly
her team up with torch would be so cool
such a good character for them to make good, promotes grouping up, helps support in the damage roll. lucio and phara players agree.
I almost don't want the buffs because I don't want competition for the pick lol
The seasonal damage boost being +5% when Hela was given +20%… how isn’t this racism?
I think its bcuz of her base dmg boost upgrade if I did the maths right she could go up to 98 dmg with her boost and a 15% seasonal dmg boost that in total would give her 45% dmg boost from the buffed dmg shes gonna have ( I hope that the dmg buff isnt the seasonal buff cuz imma riot)
Now storm can actually stand a chance against scarlet witch! I hate how she can just walk forward pressing a single button and “earn” a kill. And her flying is arguably faster than storm’s!
I seriously *loath* fighting scarlet witch as Storm. I can NEVER fly away. With these buffs maybe now I won’t have to anymore.
sheesh you nice with storm!!! Her ultimate is OP!!!
I went to practice mode and the difference is her primary fire of wind blades. It takes 10 to destroy a galacta bot before buffs. Her flight was slow. And seeing this is an improvement and I love playing storm
She's still slower than regular walking speed and Hela and Hawkeye are still VERY oppressive against her still. She's very much still at the bottom of the tier list, buffs aside.
The only thing i really like is that she maintains her over-health when using her ult now so she doesn't get instantly melted when finishing ult. I would trade that for dmg or some type of field control(like tossing enemies around when caught in the tornado) but i guess this is better than nothing.
she literally isn't mfs just say sh*t. She moves at 6m/s like almost everyone else. The fact that you thought they'd actually specifically make her singularly slower rather than it just being ur perception bcuz she's a flyer is pretty telling that you don't know what ur talking about
she still needs a movement boost imo,
What nerf did they apply to Hela? Damage to head and upper chest, more cooldowns, ult changes?
In my opinion, they could have gave her infinite ammo.
This
In fairness, even the devs did not buff her movement speed, she is now a killer. Really feels she's a true duelist now. I still hope in the next season she'll have faster movement when flying or add her some thunder flying dash power or somethin'
Wind more for speed and defence, right?
Why her right click on wind mode is lighting? They could change it for wind dash or anti projectile wind bubble
She’s going to be a monster now. I don’t know if they can keep the piercing projectiles with the amount of projectiles she can throw.
Dont be delulu, Adam Warlock has the BEST skin in the battlepass. SW just looks like her base skin 2.0 😂
5% is very little compared too other seasonal buffs
I also think that storms attacks should pierce shields, like a counter to dr strange, cap america etc them shields not hp shields
It’s weird she’s even getting a seasonal buff, as she has new teammup with anyone (unless they’re revealing a new one soon)
I don't think she should pierce shields. If anything, the character that needs shield piercing is Scarlett Witch. She really needs the help.
@@shafin6089 she has one with johnny but hes coming the second half of the season
@@jordanandrews5686 Doesn’t that teammup have torch as the anchor, not Storm? I thought it was Johnny enhancing Storm’s ultimate, not the other way around
Anyone know if the Cap buffs are even worth a shit?
Damn. I might have competition when picking storm now.
i like that even though they nerfed certain characters, they didn’t outright gut them. it’s refreshing considering how terrible certain characters were treated in overwatch… ahem mercy…
Does storms attacks pierce shields?
15 seconds is still too long if the damage isn't good. "Team-up" attacks should DO DAMAGE. Make it worth the cooldown time and significance of a team-up. And she NEEDS to be much faster. Nobody running on foot should be faster than her unless it's Quicksilver, lol.
Her team skill is a lame variation of right click
Since she's AOE dps, they should've change that skill to AOE lightning zone you can place near you for x seconds
Just waiting on the hulk buffs
I already had fun with pre buff Storm. Now i will be rocking with her! (Pun intended since i have the rock star skin)
Correction. As a Storm main and one trick. She was already great , she’s just even better now. People slept on her cuz they didn’t know how to play her. And most still don’t. But I like that she does ah e a skill gap to play her. Now she gonna get banned every game with Sue. But we up even more now.
Hopefully people don’t ban her so I can roll even harder now now that I can hit my shots easier
The only real issue with Storm was that most people don't know how to play her. She was good before and I think people are still going to struggle with her
Storm absolutely slapps...shes my guilty pleasure to play if the rest of the team dont instalock dps in ranked
She feels like she’ll be more so on the punisher/psylocke level. I think she’ll be a really good meta pick, but not prioritized in bans.
For me it was the damage that it. Yes, she is cool.
a lot? Btw storm is in the game?
I still think she needs a defensive. Almost every other class has something to avoid damage besides storm
lumi will be eating up this storm buff
%5 girl. Didn’t hawkeye and hela have %20
She’s always been great y’all just don’t know how to play her 😭 got to gm on pc playing her
YESS LESGOO QUEEN
Always has been
GIRL, storm is STILL a flop, her dps/mobility kit is still a sphere that diseappears if you fly up in the air...gosh, these devs dont know ANYTHING about Storm, why the F does she still have a reload to her power??? she's a MUTANT.
Season buffs are lame. Not a fan.
LMAO 😝
Wanda best skin?? Not even 😂
I dont think this 5% season damage makes her viable. Storm need another ability in my opinion it should be an airdodge on cooldown because your so slow in the air or a slam to the ground with a cooldown so you can get on the ground faster.
that's not her only buff
i hate storm
She's still terrible because she cant headshot
The absence of logic...
If I can do consistent heavy damage I'm not stressing a headshot.
@tkm1875 lol have fun with that punisher will just beam you
@@tkm1875nah id rather headshot.