J&J on Jazz | "PLAYING FAST!!"

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    FOR ALL INSTRUMENTS - Welcome to the 17th episode of J&J On Jazz! Today, James and Jeff talk about Playing Fast! Why bother? And if we DO need to develop this skill, how do we do it without it taking forever? Fear not. all questions will be answered!
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Комментарии • 27

  • @davidcox8961
    @davidcox8961 3 года назад +3

    Great lesson Guys!! I'm going to apply it to learning a solo of Jeff I've been working on with Freddie Freeloader. You're right again Jeff. I do think that my problem is that I can't wiggle my fingers that fast. I know. It's all in my head. Practice slowly to learn to play fast!!

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад

      Actually David, I think this lesson is NOT for you, or at least not as relates to the solo you are learning. SLOW is what you need there. This lesson applies to the overall concept of playing fast, not to learning a given piece of music. We can work on this plenty more inside www.JazzWire.net. See you there!

  • @johnmarkconnolly6414
    @johnmarkconnolly6414 3 года назад +1

    I like how y’all address similar but different aspects of playing fast. For me this applies even to ballads or slower tunes when you want to drop into a double time phrase. “Mr. voice-leading” Antoniuk’s emphasis on nailing the rhythmic aspect of faster tempos is a great place for me, as I’m not comfortable soloing fast. “Mr. basement full of water”’s idea of comfort at a tempo by doing something UNcomfortable is tremendous as well.
    For sax players (really woodwinds) I think we can create that discomfort in other ways than switching hands. Maybe playing the lick in a different/weird key or mode? Changing the meter while still swinging? Etc. What I take from this idea is becoming intimate with whatever it is you’re learning - a transcription or a set of changes. These are great ideas and ones I will include in my practice. Thanks!

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад

      If it's discomfort you want as a woodwind player, just put a crappy reed on. TaaDaa!! Seriously John Mark, great points here. And I LOVE your observation about double time on a ballad or slow swing tune. It's exactly the same as "playing a fast tempo." Nice connection!

  • @pickinstone
    @pickinstone 3 года назад +1

    Rhythmic precision is always crucial in jazz--even when you listen to players who "lean back farther than Fat Joe" and sound like they are being loose with the time--pro level players always know where they are in the pulse and where they are in the measure. I think that goes especially for playing fast. Technique seems like half the battle (but crucial, non-the-less), the real trick seems to be to hear it fast and precise in your head. I think it sounds better to play rhythmically intentional and sparse on fast tempos than to play really fast and have no sense of the pulse or where the "one" is for every measure/ phrase. If you lose the pulse and the downbeat, you lose that dance--at least that's what I keep telling myself. So maybe it's a matter of re-conceptualizing what playing "fast" really means. Instead of relegating it to pure technique and physicality, maybe it's about maintaining rhythmic precision as you play faster--to keep it dancing. I think James is talking about that precision as well here.

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      I am 100% with you. My point in this video as that "fingers" are important, but having our minds straight, able to hear the pulse is far more important.

  • @JanvanKnip
    @JanvanKnip 3 года назад +1

    Great video. I'm wondering whether a red head and lack of oxygen are necessary in order to play at 300 bpm or over 🤪

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      Those two things are pretty much prerequisites!! 😂 Hey, I hope you are well, and hope we'll get to work with you again soon inside www.JazzWire.net. Your friends there have been doing some great work, and we'll love to have you back.

  • @GerryLSmith
    @GerryLSmith 3 года назад +2

    Jeff I keep getting the impression you're looking over my shoulder and seeing what I'm working on at the moment :D

    • @davidcox8961
      @davidcox8961 3 года назад

      Ha ha.. Do you hear his voice in your head like I do?

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад

      I know it's a bit creepy, but I AM. Have you checked out Google Spy? It works great! 😂 Seriously, Gerry, I hope we'll have the chance to REALLY work together. I'd love to see you inside www.JazzWire.net this afternoon. Check it out the Free One Week limited access to JazzWire. See what we're doing behind the wall! You'll be in in 20 second, no credit card or anything like that. app.jazzwire.net/free-trial. These videos are great, but they are a SHADOW compared to the real work and we can do together!

  • @SteveDew
    @SteveDew 3 года назад +1

    Switch hands? Pfft. Play sax with your FEET!

  • @lyntedrockley7295
    @lyntedrockley7295 3 года назад +1

    Great advice. I wonder if this would work for driving lessons....

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      I'm pretty sure. If you'd donate your car for the testing, I'm sure we could work this out! 😂😂😂😂 " . . . and now go twice as fast."

    • @lyntedrockley7295
      @lyntedrockley7295 3 года назад

      @@JeffAntoniukEducator yeah! Well what doesn't kill you...etc.
      But seriously I was interested that James made that comment.
      Muscle memory, practice slow to get fast, and the 17 hour rest cycle which translates to daily practice, the rest in between being important to allow the muscles (nerve fibres really) to consolidate and then the next day that control will be there is what the received wisdom is. Correct repetition is the mantra.
      But I do wonder if correct repetition at a slow speed for a period, immediately followed by a short period of fast attempts is an even better approach. I think this is what James is referring to.
      And I think it will help because given learning a dexterous task, such as an intricate phrase played fast, there is not ONLY the fine, fast reciprocating actions of hand and mouth but also the overall generalised motions that encompass all that detail.
      This overall action, I suspect is not so efficiently internatised in slow correct repetition. So doing the fast versions, which may lack percision, but rehearse the overall action will help this larger pattern to establish.

  • @itsunglinmusic-4466
    @itsunglinmusic-4466 3 года назад +1

    Nice as always, Jeff! What are the brand/model number of your mic and your setup(recording surface? Mixer?) in this series of video? Thanks😊

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching, I use a Shure KSM 32 (two of them), and a Logitech camera on my laptop. Simple!

    • @itsunglinmusic-4466
      @itsunglinmusic-4466 3 года назад

      @@JeffAntoniukEducator Thanks, Jeff!

    • @itsunglinmusic-4466
      @itsunglinmusic-4466 3 года назад

      No mixer / recording surface or Equalizer used in the video series?

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      @@itsunglinmusic-4466 I run my voice mic and horn mic into a mixer, then into a Focusrite interface, into the computer.

  • @TheDavidmachin
    @TheDavidmachin 3 года назад +1

    Great to listen to this. Great confidence booster. So easy to follow. Thank you.

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      Thanks David. The whole point is that there are CLEAR paths to achieve seemingly impossible things. Just get on a good path, and follow it. You are doing GREAT inside www.JazzWire.net in that regard. You are coming long SO fast. Just keep it up!

    • @TheDavidmachin
      @TheDavidmachin 3 года назад

      @@JeffAntoniukEducator How you put that as creating clear paths captures Jazzwire well. Its not so much about information, such as more scales, but 'this is what to do to move ahead'. This is how to approach this and that. Its always about doing thing, like in this video. There is no pretence that you can be a pro overnight. But each week we all work on something together which provides a way to do things. In two and a half years I have gone from someone who had some scales but had no idea how to sound like proper jazz, to doing restaurant gigs. Still a long way to go of course. But I was stuck too many years just gathering more scales and music books but not knowing what was the best thing to do. Jeff labels himself as an educator. And you will see why. He is not a player showing you what he can do. He has skills to help you see what you need to see. I have no idea how he remembers all the nuances of the students. But good teachers do that.

  • @richardsorice4509
    @richardsorice4509 3 года назад +1

    Also, I'm left handed, but play guitar right handed. Can't imagine changing at this point. Great video, guys!

    • @JeffAntoniukEducator
      @JeffAntoniukEducator  3 года назад +1

      I'm left handed and play the sax right handed too! You and I should get EXTRA pay on the gigs, Richard!! Hey, thanks for watching, and see you inside www.JazzWire.net later today I hope!

  • @richardsorice4509
    @richardsorice4509 3 года назад

    Two words, Jeff..... Roland Kirk, LOL!