Quick Technique Fix & Interpretation Tips for the Coda of Chopin's Ballade 1

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • The Coda of Ballade op.23 by Frédéric Chopin gives a hard time to many students. Here you'll find some precious tips about technique optimisation, as well as an interpretation advice.
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Комментарии • 67

  • @fredericchopin2593
    @fredericchopin2593 2 года назад +94

    Thank you, I have been struggling to get the coda perfect and this helped me!

    • @qqma4791
      @qqma4791 2 года назад +30

      When chopin struggles with his own pieces
      Jk hows your coda going?

    • @fredericchopin2593
      @fredericchopin2593 2 года назад +3

      @@qqma4791 I'm done with the piece finally!!!

    • @qqma4791
      @qqma4791 2 года назад +1

      @@fredericchopin2593 thats great!

    • @JaxDaBest
      @JaxDaBest Год назад

      @@fredericchopin2593 You should post it on YT!

    • @fredericchopin2593
      @fredericchopin2593 Год назад

      @@JaxDaBest I would but I haven’t played it in like 6 months…

  • @aydinsobhiafshar3609
    @aydinsobhiafshar3609 2 года назад +20

    My God it's so simple when you teach it you should make a tutorial for other parts of the ballad when something is practical like this i find it very helpful

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  2 года назад +4

      Of course there is a full course on the piece available, the link is in the description.

  • @peforce
    @peforce 2 года назад +20

    This has quickly become one of my favourite RUclips channels. I love the camera work, the sound quality and your excellent explanations. Even as beginner and having nowhere near the skills required for most of the repertoire you bring to the channel, your videos have clarified a lot of things for me and you approach subjects that most RUclips channels don't even mention.
    Thanks and keep up the good work

  • @awmkg916
    @awmkg916 2 года назад +8

    Luckly I found this video, because in 5:23 I was playing that B3 flat one octave under and I wasn't realizing why I was having a big trouble with it😂😂 Thank u I guess

  • @Armissimo
    @Armissimo 3 месяца назад +1

    The way the coda is timed perfectly with the subscribe bell at 2:07 gets me! 😂 Thank you for the tips!

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the sub! Yes took me a bit to get that bell right🤣

  • @huanghank6301
    @huanghank6301 2 года назад +7

    This is simply amazing, you played and explained it so well !! Wish you do more of these hard pieces tutorial.

  • @rayryan2778
    @rayryan2778 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for the very informative video.

  • @happyaccident2398
    @happyaccident2398 8 месяцев назад +1

    Now I practice this. Thank U so much. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @u26535
    @u26535 2 года назад +3

    thanks so much, this actually helped a lot ♥️

  • @Un1234l
    @Un1234l 2 года назад +2

    Excellent instruction, my friend.

  • @Soundscape123
    @Soundscape123 3 месяца назад

    Thank you, wonderful teacher. 😊

  • @milo182
    @milo182 2 года назад +2

    i learned so much thank you!!!

  • @konikacariapa3289
    @konikacariapa3289 2 года назад +1

    Very glad to have discovered your channel. Thank you

  • @marysanker1114
    @marysanker1114 2 года назад +1

    I want you for my teacher! VERY helpful

  • @islaadele1212
    @islaadele1212 2 года назад +1

    This is very helpful, thank you. The more I practice this, the more pain I'm getting in my right wrist, though, particularly when I try to speed it up. I don't think it's anything to do with having smaller hands, just tension I guess. It's hard to be loose once you reach the coda.

  • @più_lento_28_13
    @più_lento_28_13 Год назад +1

    EXCELLENT VIDEO Denis !! Thank you so much for this, i will save it in my favourites playlist and shall come back to jt when the time comes.
    Also, by the way that comparison you made about those bars at the end like an old car struggling to start made me laugh haha !

  • @binpacker
    @binpacker 2 года назад +1

    I love your explanation. You explain exactly what I need to know to play well. As soon as I discovered your channel, I bought your course on this piece right away. The rest is as good as it gets. Thank you!

  • @simonroger565
    @simonroger565 Год назад

    Cannot wait to apply all of this.

  • @barberchopin96
    @barberchopin96 Год назад

    👏👏👏 incredible tips and phrasing ideas, thank you for sharing your expertise!!

  • @colepotwardowski4313
    @colepotwardowski4313 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a full video of your performance? Your tips are wonderful and your playing is amazing! It would be a privilege to hear the whole ballade. Best. 🙏

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  10 месяцев назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/wWjD62EhkgI/видео.htmlsi=vTIAVFU7UUNXwziJ
      Thanks for commenting!

  • @ddjjuull
    @ddjjuull 2 года назад

    Thanks, wonderful lesson !

  • @metaphor541
    @metaphor541 Год назад

    Thank you. It really helped me!!

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  Год назад

      I am very happy to hear that! Thanks for commenting!

    • @metaphor541
      @metaphor541 Год назад

      Now I am your fan. you saved my wrists and fingers 🤣 thank you - from South Korea

  • @chelasusanduch2458
    @chelasusanduch2458 Год назад

    Excelente! Muchas gracias ❤

  • @sizzlinglizzi1345
    @sizzlinglizzi1345 Год назад +1

    I am interested in the imagery different teachers use : you describe the last line as like a rusty old car ......another teacher talked about a huge boulder rolling down a mountain and gathering speed and momentum , which I quite like as playing this piece feels like climbing a mountain ! Thank you very much for this very helpful excellent tutorial , it is really inspiring .

  • @novellmusicmedia6895
    @novellmusicmedia6895 Год назад

    Solid😊

  • @MrPhilou78
    @MrPhilou78 Год назад +1

    Very interesting and useful video, thank you so much. After 1 year of hard work, I can almost play that coda at a decent tempo, excepted those two @#$%# G melodic minor scales !!! To be honest, I don't know how to work them. It seems to be a real challenge to play them at the speed of light (as they should be played, I guess). I've looked up for tutos about practicing fast scales but I can hear everthing and its opposite (slow practice, no slow practice, pier note method, playing syncopated rhythms, hands separately, hands together...). I feel a little bit lost... and frustrated :/

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  Год назад +2

      Building technique up to the level of such works is unfortunately a real challenge for adult learners, here one should be just easy on themselves and patient…

  • @myklkay
    @myklkay 2 года назад +1

    Hello, out of reach for me but many advice I can transfer to other pieces. Thank you.

  • @magkostoev
    @magkostoev 2 года назад

    Спасибо

  • @Cubanbearnyc
    @Cubanbearnyc 2 года назад +3

    For how long do you practice slowly (if you do....) pieces in fast tempos, like Chopin etudes ? do you go back to slow practice once you increase the tempo, or you stay fast ? thanks

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  2 года назад +5

      I use a very effective strategy: first mastering a part of a piece in a comfortable tempo when you can find maximum efficiency and comfort, synchronizing movements properly. Then you extract a very short fragment, 1-2 bars, bringing it to the real tempo. The trick here is working on very short fragments first, uniting them together later on. It needs a disciplined working routine, but helps mastering a piece much faster, because most of the problems with faster tempo comes from the necessity to play fast for a longer time, playing a fresh material (that you’re not yet confident with) in a flow. Of course you get back to a slower tempo if you feel that something goes out of your total control.
      Hope that helps

    • @Cubanbearnyc
      @Cubanbearnyc 2 года назад

      @@DenZhdanovPianist It sounds like you really don't use slow tempo in your practice..... when you use the term "comfortable tempo" it doesn't imply slow.... and then you go on to faster ones..... correct?

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  2 года назад +4

      Exactly, you don’t need slow tempo for the sake of a slow tempo. You need a tempo in which you can control everything.
      You use a tempo that meets your current practicing goal, practicing in a slow tempo without a goal might be waste of time.

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  2 года назад +6

      The goal is to raise tempo in such a way that you would be able to control everything and think in a real time in a “real” tempo. So then you won’t need practicing in a slower tempo so much. Although there are some spots that are difficult to proceed in a real time (that’s individual for everyone and has to do with rather your brain processor speed than with technical ability), for such spots we have to use “maintenance” tempo more frequently.

  • @thegreenpianist7683
    @thegreenpianist7683 11 месяцев назад

    Hello Denis. This is fantastic insight!
    5:12 I usually Start a bit strong (but not too strong) on this bass octaves, but decresc. to the E natural octave and then start the big cresc. Is that too much? Sometimes I execute it well and I like it, but other times it comes across slight off. Any insight?
    Thanks!

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  11 месяцев назад

      Quite often it doesn’t matter how crazy or ‘wrong’ is your idea, but how clearly you convey it, and who listens to you. So here I can’t help you. I,myself, had plenty of situations when my teachers would give me some cool ideas, but warn me “just don’t play like this on a competition”

    • @thegreenpianist7683
      @thegreenpianist7683 11 месяцев назад

      @@DenZhdanovPianist aah I see. Thanks for the insight!

  • @AlexLeow-kx4wi
    @AlexLeow-kx4wi Месяц назад

    RX-5!!!

  • @larghedoggo9607
    @larghedoggo9607 2 года назад

    Hi Denis, can I change the fingering for example at beginning from right hand D G Bb as 245 into 135 😂?
    My handsize is barely octave(more comfortable when pull back), maximum reach 9th edge in such position when stretch as best.
    I struggle many parts and make reasonable changes, but I am really not sure about coda consider its velocity requirement.

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  2 года назад +1

      Well you can surely try, but it’s gonna be a bit tricky with A that follows. Try then to throw your 2 finger for that A over after the chord, making sure to release the hand immediately. Imagine that these fingers 135 are getting immediately numb after the hit, and throw over to A not just the 2nd finger, but like the whole hand palm. Other option is to think how to approach that chord with a traditional fingering but avoiding stretch.

    • @larghedoggo9607
      @larghedoggo9607 2 года назад

      @@DenZhdanovPianist Thanks a lot!
      I will rethink, I think it is playable in some what situation

  • @panosmopos8765
    @panosmopos8765 Год назад

    amazing tips and phrasing ideas.thats my interpertation 2 years ago but now after watching this video i wanna work again on this coda ruclips.net/video/oCrSPRTf3Ak/видео.html

  • @bens.664
    @bens.664 11 месяцев назад

    I wonder why so many play the grace notes at the end so quickly. Have you ever experimented with dragging them out for more contrast they way Emmanuel Ax does?

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  11 месяцев назад

      Sure. I found it a bit pretentious in the context of this furious coda and dropped the idea.

    • @bens.664
      @bens.664 11 месяцев назад

      @@DenZhdanovPianist interesting. I think your interpretation is marvelous
      .... I do think more pianists should play the grace notes differently. In Ax's interpretation it doesn't seem pretentious at all - it seems...right.

    • @DenZhdanovPianist
      @DenZhdanovPianist  11 месяцев назад +1

      @bens.664 thanks!
      it’s typical that what suits to one musician doesn’t work as convincingly to another, I can easily imagine Ax or someone else sounding great with this. Maybe in 20 years I also will feel it only this way, who knows.