The rear suspension on the Power Goat is stiff for me to at 220lb as well. I think the Billy Goat V2 and the Motor Goat V3 have better rear suspension since their shock placement is better.
I just never understand why people obsess over 2-3 miles difference in mph. I see RUclipss spending 500-1000 in upgrades to get 5 miles or less in speed. Or if odometer if off 2-3 miles. Great video ⚡️⚡️⚡️
I agree totally, all these upgrades just for 2-5 mph more is laughable. I pedal my ebike 20-25 mph to get more range, buy a Honda Ruckus and 41 mph all day, 100 per gallon and then stop at the gas station and fill up in 30 seconds for three bucks. Insurance is about $300 a year. 😂 and it’s brand new for $2800.
Agreed. Our bike lanes are so littered with rocks and debris not to mention drainage grates, I wouldn’t really want to go 40 mph in these skinny little lanes. At that point a motorcycle in traffic feels like the safer option.
the difference between 35 and 40mph is a big deal when you’re sharing the road with cars. 45mph is a very common speed limit on roads in the US, hence the motivation for upgrading to that threshold in order to keep up with traffic on those roads.
I had to set wheel size to 22.8 to get a speedometer number which matched GPS (Motor Goat v3). The Motor Goat v3 also has a higher voltage pack, as it is a 17s5p, as versus a 16s5p. I suspect the battery percent is a "longer term average". Powering off and on resets the longer term average, thus showing a lower percentage.
Goat bikes are awesome! For accurate speed reading, just change tire size in the speedo. For the rear suspension, I changes the 550 lbs spring to a 350 lbs spring. I love what you do!
@@BboyMobster I like that Javalin also but I am just not sure about the guy on the videos that is an owner. I think I just need to watch a couple of his videos and get to know him. He seems a lil distant. Maybe it’s me.
@@papap.8006 I related to him. I feel he might have alittle anxiety but could be wrong but I recognize similarities. He knows he has to advertise them but doesn’t mean he’s a social animal lol.
Love watching your videos. Always looks fun riding around. That bike looks like a great bike (especially since it's still working compared to the Graffiti X). I'm hoping you get your Graffiti by December so you can help me decide what to buy. If the Graffiti x doesn't break, I will buy one, but if you are able to brick it again, I think the Power goat is a fun option, especially with a bigger battery.
If that bike has juliet connectors and the motor has the 3 phase wires and the hall sensor, you could throw on a Sabvoton 7280 and a parallel battery connector and your good to go! 😮
I think when you first get your bike probably need to charge it for at least 8 to 10 hours it just depends how much juice is in the battery and how long it's been sitting and I do know it's not good for a battery to sit idle
can i legally commute with this in florida in bike land or side walk lol? if do speed limit of around 30 mph ? when not around people other than traffic? and maintain lower speed on sidewalks around businesses etc
@@MrCentralDriverI have a couple of very old gas scooters but when you sit down you lose a little more control than if you're standing up because that's what I noticed
Now I dont know what to buy. I wanted a DRT but I hesitated while they were in stock and I dont want to wait 2 months cuz it will be cold when they restock in October. I was going to buy this bike but I thought you would like it more. Now I'm rethinking what to buy. I only paid $800 for what I have now, and it has good rear suspension, a really comfortable seat, and crazy torque for a cheap 48v (Amyet G60). I dont want to pay more for a downgrade just to get more speed, more range, and better brakes
These GOAT ev Bike are nice and what are the odds of two RUclipsrs from Fresno metro area promoting e-bikes. We lived near Ashlan and Clovis a couple years ago!
What would be the reasons to get this over the Aniioki Pro 8 Dual Motor? This one barely reaches higher top speed and has much lower range MPC. Additional battery is over $600 on top of the existing ~$2,499 price. Aniioki I believe gets over 50 MPC full throttle going top speed. Sure Aniioki is Chinese, but Motor Goat is pretty much a Chinese ebike with an American face upfront. So I guess people are paying for *hopefully* better aftersales support?
Of the 3 models I've seen from them, this is my least favorite style. I think personally I'd have a lot more fun with the Billy Goat. It looks the most like a motorcycle. Very cool looking!
I noticed the exact same things on the billy goat v2...display voltage on the updated display is crap not accurate at all..and I call BS on top speed claims..my son is 130lb and can't get but 41 mph..at your weight they claim 47-48 mph..I also noticed it falls on its face after 34-35 mph..the brakes suck..squeaks..squeals..rubbing calipers..tried every brake pad possibe..still bad brake noise and overheats easily..rear suspension is harsh...seat sucks to...thinking about returning it for something better...
Hard to decide so many good e bikes.I have 3 scooters kickscooters.I've been riding four years now. Definitely want 60 or 72 V.Cause i'm used to the power from dual motors, But i'm liking this one, Or the brute ,which is obviously more expensive though. I would like something that doesn't slow down any more than forty towards the bottom of the batteryt really. Plus like you said i'm seeinanother videos for this one and people say the top speed drops pretty quick which you would think what dual batteries that wouldn't get lower so quick. I know they all lose the speed.And power but Typically , a fifty two volt battery will go forty to forty three miles per hour, And towards the end will be down at thirty seven or seven or thirty eight I wouldn't expect , This one a sixty vault battery to go down to thirty seven. Especially so quick. Out of all 3 of my scooters, the one with the LG battery drains the slowest.And morose consistent makes a huge difference
Out of the box, the Motor Goat V3 and Power Goat V2 have the same exact specs. Except, the default "gas tank" style battery for the Motor Goat is 17S while the Power Goat's battery is 16S. So, a little more pep for the Motor Goat at full charge.
That motor can handle way more power, it definitely has nothing to do with the motor heating up. In fact, this bike is a prime canadate for a controller swap. All bikes perform worse as the battery drains and the voltage drops. I suspect the voltage and percentage problems are from the battery blender, (blenders suck and they arent needed, a simple parallel connector is all thats needed) or the display itself just isnt functioning correctly.
i did this test in a previous video without a battery blender and with 1 single battery. voltage and percentage is still way off. this bike goes over 40mph all day until it gets hot than its around 36mph for me at 170lbs. ruclips.net/video/6HI-bs5S3OQ/видео.html&t Keep in mind its 100 degrees here.
@@MrCentralDriver I could see the 2nd battery holder is on the bike in the 1st video, you said you had another battery but didnt have it on there. Js lol I assumed the blender was installed but Im not saying it definitely was the problem. Ive seen them cause similar issues in the past. Also, there may be an over heat protection thats set too low, but that motor is definitely not over heating. I know that motor can handle atleast double the power that bike is pushing, without cooling mods. ive done it! I live in florida! its 100 every day. It wouldnt need cooling mods until it got up over 8 or 9 kw. I have one with statoraid injected! Im not talkin shit man, I love the content and the info, just merely trying to educate. That bike is in no danger of over heating with a 50 amp controller. Mine never did. Before mods. If they have it set up like that, its not right.
Man I had my 2k e-bike get stolen from my front porch about 2 weeks ago the one night I didn’t put it inside someone snatched it up I’m so sad still 😭😭
Seeming like a good bike and getting a quality bike is a big difference there's Facebook groups where folks are getting these full of errors going dead missing wires so it's just the honest truth
But you have to understand what this guy is doing he's letting people know the good and the bad about these bikes because they're made in China and a lot of them are junk China no Make junk hahaha what a joke 🤣✌️ And if America made them nobody would be able to afford them and make you registrate them all this country wants is money that's all it is money money money money money
Here’s the thing. Even the more expensive e-bikes have issues. I’ve had several and they all have little issues. So my question is would you rather he gave you the straight up truth about what he’s reviewing or just act like they are all amazing? Plenty of other RUclipsrs are paid for their reviews which makes the review suspect. At least he’s keeping it real. 🤘🏻
@@MrCentralDriver cool Thank you! I love your vids man, I live in az so you’re the closest thing I can get to research which e bike can hold up in really hot temps
@@jamessturdivant7713oh yeah no kidding I live in Apple valley it's a high desert I'm about 3,000 ft in elevation but I've had no problems with overheating on my aerial Rider grizzly not yet anyways Take care and God bless
Look my brother that bike should have mirrors I went down and bought some mirrors that the bicycle shop had and they really stick out and they have a clamp that will clamp on anything you just have to squeeze it with channel lock pliers it's the same thing as wearing a helmet you need mirrors I'm always watching what's behind me to see what they're going to do and I've had somebody go by me at a very high rate of speed and he was very close to me and I wished I had a camera on my helmet Plus the jerk was speeding
Same exact gear shift as my aerial Rider grizzly there must be one company in China that makes all these for all the electric bikes And unfortunately some of these are nothing but junk just like the motor buys RPS 125 I bought from motorbikes I paid like 825 bucks and I've had nothing but problems with it and it's never ran so now I will take motorbikes to court and get my money back and they will pay the court fees I will no longer let these companies rip me off and sell me junk
I always do my homework when buying higher ticket items and after watching hundreds and I am not joking hundreds of vids. I picked the motor goat 3 and I took it out for a quick shakedown and moved the needle to 45 mph and I weigh 245. Not to shabby. I thank especially
I don’t understand why it’s acceptable for speedometers on e- bikes to be off by 3 or 4 mph. Isn’t accuracy important? If this were the case with cars, it would be scrutinized much more heavily. Why is it different for bikes? Simply put, the speedometer should be accurate. If it’s not, the bike is flawed. This isn’t acceptable. I would be so annoyed-how are you okay with that? You spend all this money on something that should work, but it doesn’t.
“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.” - Galatians 6:14 (KJV)
I think he knows good from bad. Got the v3 today
The rear suspension on the Power Goat is stiff for me to at 220lb as well. I think the Billy Goat V2 and the Motor Goat V3 have better rear suspension since their shock placement is better.
I just never understand why people obsess over 2-3 miles difference in mph. I see RUclipss spending 500-1000 in upgrades to get 5 miles or less in speed. Or if odometer if off 2-3 miles. Great video ⚡️⚡️⚡️
I agree totally, all these upgrades just for 2-5 mph more is laughable. I pedal my ebike 20-25 mph to get more range, buy a Honda Ruckus and 41 mph all day, 100 per gallon and then stop at the gas station and fill up in 30 seconds for three bucks. Insurance is about $300 a year. 😂 and it’s brand new for $2800.
Agreed. Our bike lanes are so littered with rocks and debris not to mention drainage grates, I wouldn’t really want to go 40 mph in these skinny little lanes. At that point a motorcycle in traffic feels like the safer option.
the difference between 35 and 40mph is a big deal when you’re sharing the road with cars. 45mph is a very common speed limit on roads in the US, hence the motivation for upgrading to that threshold in order to keep up with traffic on those roads.
@@ghoul114insurance is so cheap
@@ghoul114when did you buy your bike? Summer time is too expensive
I think you do an excellent job of reviewing the e-bikes.
I picked my V3 because of your work with your V3.
dual battery? hows the top speed
@@DomDanCam
She has not got it yet but they say 38. We shall see.
@@papap.8006 do you mean 48? 😁
Btw, the battery is 17s, not 16s, which has different voltages/percentage of battery remaining. It charges up to ~71V.
In the settings there is a start strength option also in boost gear you can change how many levels of pedal assist. Nice video!
I had to set wheel size to 22.8 to get a speedometer number which matched GPS (Motor Goat v3). The Motor Goat v3 also has a higher voltage pack, as it is a 17s5p, as versus a 16s5p.
I suspect the battery percent is a "longer term average". Powering off and on resets the longer term average, thus showing a lower percentage.
Goat bikes are awesome!
For accurate speed reading, just change tire size in the speedo.
For the rear suspension, I changes the 550 lbs spring to a 350 lbs spring.
I love what you do!
I love this man reviews. Saved me a lot of time and money lol. I’m taking my time. I either want the Javelin or ristretto 512.
@@BboyMobster I like that Javalin also but I am just not sure about the guy on the videos that is an owner. I think I just need to watch a couple of his videos and get to know him. He seems a lil distant. Maybe it’s me.
And Bruce is the best!
@@papap.8006 I related to him. I feel he might have alittle anxiety but could be wrong but I recognize similarities. He knows he has to advertise them but doesn’t mean he’s a social animal lol.
I think you can solve the problem of voltage display being out of sync by upgrading the latest program through the Bluetooth APP.
Super awesome video
Love watching your videos. Always looks fun riding around. That bike looks like a great bike (especially since it's still working compared to the Graffiti X). I'm hoping you get your Graffiti by December so you can help me decide what to buy. If the Graffiti x doesn't break, I will buy one, but if you are able to brick it again, I think the Power goat is a fun option, especially with a bigger battery.
If that bike has juliet connectors and the motor has the 3 phase wires and the hall sensor, you could throw on a Sabvoton 7280 and a parallel battery connector and your good to go! 😮
My Revv1 (dual battery w/ balancer) does 41mph on the flats.
sick. I've never seen that on flats with stock tires. I've seen it on taller tires
Got my goat and charging the battery it’s still red and it’s been plugged in for 3 hours. But it showed blue at unboxing.
I think when you first get your bike probably need to charge it for at least 8 to 10 hours it just depends how much juice is in the battery and how long it's been sitting and I do know it's not good for a battery to sit idle
@@kirkslayden834
Hey you’re probably right I charged it for a little over 3 hours to top it off. When it turned blue I unplugged it and it’s ready!
can i legally commute with this in florida in bike land or side walk lol? if do speed limit of around 30 mph ? when not around people other than traffic? and maintain lower speed on sidewalks around businesses etc
I like the model of this
Good video love your honesty
I appreciate that
I want the power goat v2 and the Anyiokie (misspelled) and lucky I know how to diy a softer seat
Cheap cells with voltage sag or it takes time for the screen to calculated a stable reading
In the display menu did you set the tire diameter to 22.8"? That should correct your speedometers accuracy.
Thanks for the info. can you share a link to that light you are talking about.
You are making it very hard to pick a new E-bike for next year. I'm stuck between the Lyric X, The power goat v3 and a nanrobot bot scooter.
Scooters you gotta stand up unless u get a seat which looks kind of funny to Me on scooters
@@MrCentralDriverI have a couple of very old gas scooters but when you sit down you lose a little more control than if you're standing up because that's what I noticed
Those nanbot LS7+ looks to be promising. Pre orders now for under $3k but I don't like it's tubed tires and not tubeless which is petty
Is this and the other one?The same just looked different? When I look up goat version three, This one along with the other style come up.
Look mirrors are for your safety brother and always wear a helmet
There’s a firmware update to accurate display the voltage in percentage
Haven't heard of it and I just got the bike.
Now I dont know what to buy. I wanted a DRT but I hesitated while they were in stock and I dont want to wait 2 months cuz it will be cold when they restock in October. I was going to buy this bike but I thought you would like it more. Now I'm rethinking what to buy. I only paid $800 for what I have now, and it has good rear suspension, a really comfortable seat, and crazy torque for a cheap 48v (Amyet G60). I dont want to pay more for a downgrade just to get more speed, more range, and better brakes
These GOAT ev Bike are nice and what are the odds of two RUclipsrs from Fresno metro area promoting e-bikes. We lived near Ashlan and Clovis a couple years ago!
Statoraid fixes 95% of those Heating issues.
What would be the reasons to get this over the Aniioki Pro 8 Dual Motor? This one barely reaches higher top speed and has much lower range MPC. Additional battery is over $600 on top of the existing ~$2,499 price. Aniioki I believe gets over 50 MPC full throttle going top speed. Sure Aniioki is Chinese, but Motor Goat is pretty much a Chinese ebike with an American face upfront. So I guess people are paying for *hopefully* better aftersales support?
Revv1 FS vs this bike, which one?
Of the 3 models I've seen from them, this is my least favorite style. I think personally I'd have a lot more fun with the Billy Goat. It looks the most like a motorcycle. Very cool looking!
The percentage in the voltage don’t match up on my E-bike almost ever !!
i wonder if u would like the ecells 5star
I noticed the exact same things on the billy goat v2...display voltage on the updated display is crap not accurate at all..and I call BS on top speed claims..my son is 130lb and can't get but 41 mph..at your weight they claim 47-48 mph..I also noticed it falls on its face after 34-35 mph..the brakes suck..squeaks..squeals..rubbing calipers..tried every brake pad possibe..still bad brake noise and overheats easily..rear suspension is harsh...seat sucks to...thinking about returning it for something better...
Hard to decide so many good e bikes.I have 3 scooters kickscooters.I've been riding four years now. Definitely want 60 or 72 V.Cause i'm used to the power from dual motors, But i'm liking this one, Or the brute ,which is obviously more expensive though. I would like something that doesn't slow down any more than forty towards the bottom of the batteryt really. Plus like you said i'm seeinanother videos for this one and people say the top speed drops pretty quick which you would think what dual batteries that wouldn't get lower so quick. I know they all lose the speed.And power but Typically , a fifty two volt battery will go forty to forty three miles per hour, And towards the end will be down at thirty seven or seven or thirty eight I wouldn't expect , This one a sixty vault battery to go down to thirty seven. Especially so quick. Out of all 3 of my scooters, the one with the LG battery drains the slowest.And morose consistent makes a huge difference
@MrCentralDriver Which would you choose between the Revv1 and Power Goat v2? Appreciate the videos!
Revv1 for comfort. Goat for speed.
I'll bet my life the battery on that bike is the same as my xpedition and my grizzly
Would you say the Motor Goat V3 is faster than this model?
They are the same motor and power
Yes because it's a 64v nominal battery
Out of the box, the Motor Goat V3 and Power Goat V2 have the same exact specs. Except, the default "gas tank" style battery for the Motor Goat is 17S while the Power Goat's battery is 16S. So, a little more pep for the Motor Goat at full charge.
Motor Goat V3 is a little faster because of its 17s battery versus the 16s battery on the rest of the models ;)
Motor Goat will be just a tad faster because it comes with 17S 62.9V Samsung Batteries. The current Power Goat is still 16S 60V.
This bike reminds me of the spark bandit. How does this bike compared to that one?
Spark bandit is fast.
@@MrCentralDriver power goat isn’t as fast?
@@VEGITAS4watch tail happy review on both
U could fit the whole family on that seat!!
for real lol
Another awesome video. 👍 so if this and the X were the same price, which one would be the better choice?
Lyric x
correct again..
That motor can handle way more power, it definitely has nothing to do with the motor heating up. In fact, this bike is a prime canadate for a controller swap. All bikes perform worse as the battery drains and the voltage drops. I suspect the voltage and percentage problems are from the battery blender, (blenders suck and they arent needed, a simple parallel connector is all thats needed) or the display itself just isnt functioning correctly.
i did this test in a previous video without a battery blender and with 1 single battery. voltage and percentage is still way off. this bike goes over 40mph all day until it gets hot than its around 36mph for me at 170lbs. ruclips.net/video/6HI-bs5S3OQ/видео.html&t
Keep in mind its 100 degrees here.
@@MrCentralDriver I could see the 2nd battery holder is on the bike in the 1st video, you said you had another battery but didnt have it on there. Js lol I assumed the blender was installed but Im not saying it definitely was the problem. Ive seen them cause similar issues in the past. Also, there may be an over heat protection thats set too low, but that motor is definitely not over heating. I know that motor can handle atleast double the power that bike is pushing, without cooling mods. ive done it! I live in florida! its 100 every day. It wouldnt need cooling mods until it got up over 8 or 9 kw. I have one with statoraid injected! Im not talkin shit man, I love the content and the info, just merely trying to educate. That bike is in no danger of over heating with a 50 amp controller. Mine never did. Before mods. If they have it set up like that, its not right.
@@son2soaringeagle what controller you swap to? I might try a swap at some point
Man I had my 2k e-bike get stolen from my front porch about 2 weeks ago the one night I didn’t put it inside someone snatched it up I’m so sad still 😭😭
I don't know how u ride n that hot 🔥 heat
its rough
This guy makes me not even want an ebike. Seems like all the ones I hear are good, he makes them out to be trash.
Seeming like a good bike and getting a quality bike is a big difference there's Facebook groups where folks are getting these full of errors going dead missing wires so it's just the honest truth
But you have to understand what this guy is doing he's letting people know the good and the bad about these bikes because they're made in China and a lot of them are junk
China no Make junk hahaha what a joke 🤣✌️
And if America made them nobody would be able to afford them and make you registrate them all this country wants is money that's all it is money money money money money
Here’s the thing. Even the more expensive e-bikes have issues. I’ve had several and they all have little issues. So my question is would you rather he gave you the straight up truth about what he’s reviewing or just act like they are all amazing? Plenty of other RUclipsrs are paid for their reviews which makes the review suspect. At least he’s keeping it real. 🤘🏻
Bro.. he is being brutally honest. You want perfection. Lower your standards…🙄
@@chrisbrooks67 Like I said, hearing all of this makes me not even want to get an ebike. Too many problems.
Are there pegs for a passenger?
Yes
@@MrCentralDriver cool
Thank you! I love your vids man, I live in az so you’re the closest thing I can get to research which e bike can hold up in really hot temps
@@jamessturdivant7713oh yeah no kidding I live in Apple valley it's a high desert I'm about 3,000 ft in elevation but I've had no problems with overheating on my aerial Rider grizzly not yet anyways
Take care and God bless
Any 14 inch class 3 bikes or mopeds?
Road runner pro?
@MrJLiebert heard Road Runner isn't very water resistant though although its very close to what I'm looking for.
sniffing glue is legal in Cali? Okay, enjoy, lol.
This one or RAEV GTX?
This one
@@MrCentralDriver lol u hate GTX
Voltage drop is what happens when the cells are low quality...
Or alot of power
15:36 rizz
Kind of annoyed you didn’t have your phone out to verify the speed once this video.
i plan to do more videos with my phone with the dual batteries. you can see my other video i posted on it. you can see the speed difference
He's so inconsistent I'm done watching after today.
Look my brother that bike should have mirrors I went down and bought some mirrors that the bicycle shop had and they really stick out and they have a clamp that will clamp on anything you just have to squeeze it with channel lock pliers it's the same thing as wearing a helmet you need mirrors I'm always watching what's behind me to see what they're going to do and I've had somebody go by me at a very high rate of speed and he was very close to me and I wished I had a camera on my helmet Plus the jerk was speeding
"I'm always looking behind me" is the reason I don't use mirrors
Tell your coworker his rad power bike couldn’t compare with this bike
These bikes do not go as fast as advertise. I have a Billy goat 41 tops on the flat.
Exactly..false claims is just the beginning..the shipping is even worse...so many ticked off oeople..
I’m 340 pounds I’d like to see someone riding this bike before I buy that is the same weight as I am
it’ll hold up to 450 pounds. built for passengers apparently so you should be ok alone.
Same exact gear shift as my aerial Rider grizzly there must be one company in China that makes all these for all the electric bikes
And unfortunately some of these are nothing but junk just like the motor buys RPS 125 I bought from motorbikes I paid like 825 bucks and I've had nothing but problems with it and it's never ran so now I will take motorbikes to court and get my money back and they will pay the court fees
I will no longer let these companies rip me off and sell me junk
I always do my homework when buying higher ticket items and after watching hundreds and I am not joking hundreds of vids. I picked the motor goat 3 and I took it out for a quick shakedown and moved the needle to 45 mph and I weigh 245. Not to shabby. I thank especially
Ebikes have made a lazy America, even lazier. Just ride a real bike. Your health will thank you for it.
Well maybe the information you see on there is the same thing as fake news
hahaha 🤪🤡😳😘🤣👍✌️
I don’t understand why it’s acceptable for speedometers on e- bikes to be off by 3 or 4 mph. Isn’t accuracy important? If this were the case with cars, it would be scrutinized much more heavily. Why is it different for bikes? Simply put, the speedometer should be accurate. If it’s not, the bike is flawed. This isn’t acceptable. I would be so annoyed-how are you okay with that? You spend all this money on something that should work, but it doesn’t.
Perhaps firmware update eventually or just using the phone app but I agree with you.
Has the tire size set wrong. Putting correct tire size fixes it
the bike had as fast ....
Can you send me this bike for 750 dollars pls. I subscribed and I really want this ebike. If you have the one with one motor I would love that one.
🐐
That bike is boring
“But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.”
- Galatians 6:14 (KJV)
Ebikes are for old people, pregnant women and queers. Which are you?