History of The Hobbit - The Most Underrated Speedrun

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • The Hobbit could be the most underrated speedrun there is. With insane tricks, cool movement, a dedicated community and a rich history. You'll be surprised to see how this small but dedicated community kept breaking and optimizing The Hobbit even 18 years after its release. This is the history of The Hobbit speedruns.
    This documentary has been a massive project that I poured my heart and soul into. I'm super grateful to everyone who supported me and everyone who has been a part of the community - be it player or spectator.
    Support me on Patreon: / mkarma
    Players' Channels: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Music List: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    The Hobbit Speedruns Discord: / discord
    Leaderboard: www.speedrun.com/hobbit
    My Twitch: / mkarmaa
    My Twitter: / mkarma_
    Shockster_'s Twitch: / shockster_
    Shockster_'s RUclips: / @sh0ckster_
    Chapters:
    00:00 - An Unexpected Speedrun
    14:31 - Community in Motion
    23:33 - One to Rule Them All
    36:15 - The King's Plan
    53:34 - A Warm Welcome
    1:15:31 - The Game Done Quick
    1:28:06 - Unknown Entity
    1:37:41 - A New Chapter
    2:07:32 - Platform Invasion
    2:21:30 - The Final Milestone
    Music Credits:
    - Kubbi (Creative Commons)
    - Patricia Taxxon (Creative Commons)
    - Stevia Sphere / Glaciære / SteviaDX (Creative Commons)
    - Nihilore (Creative Commons)
    - Karl Casey (Creative Commons)
    - Wintergatan (Using the Wintergatan license)
    - Josh Vickers (Used with permission)
    - faRk (Creative Commons)
    - EMAYTEE (Creative Commons)
    - Rockit Maxx (Creative Commons)
    - Fred Mug (Creative Commons)
    - Anttis Instrumentals (Creative Commons)
    - Peritune (Creative Commons)
    #speedrun #history #documentary #world_record #progression #the_hobbit #lotr
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Комментарии • 3,3 тыс.

  • @Chrixiam1998
    @Chrixiam1998 2 года назад +6050

    So after re-watching this, I just really want to say - Thank you for representing me the way you did. It's easy to mock my stubbornness in sticking with old routes, but you went out of your way to explain my mindset as well as the benefits that it can grant over time.
    Aside from just that, I love this video. It's an amazing showcase of so many people working together in different ways to push the game as far as we can, and I know this isn't the end of our story.

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +1189

      That means a lot from you man. This would have never happened without you

    • @DaNxFaM
      @DaNxFaM 2 года назад +58

      👏 👏 👏

    • @JohnYoo39
      @JohnYoo39 2 года назад +121

      Collrctive perfection requires many different people trying many different things. Thank you for your contribution.

    • @thomaseubank1503
      @thomaseubank1503 2 года назад +26

      How on earth do you do a speedrun? That is crazy!

    • @hezerd7184
      @hezerd7184 2 года назад +82

      Dude you guys rock. Such good sportsmanship.

  • @odinlindeberg4624
    @odinlindeberg4624 2 года назад +685

    "Unfortunately Aceprune died..."
    Me: oh no
    "... in Over Hill and Under Hill by falling down during the stone giants section"
    Me: Oh. Oh yeah, of course.

    • @moosecannibal8224
      @moosecannibal8224 2 года назад +53

      i had the same reaction.

    • @kirklandsignaturebarbarian3814
      @kirklandsignaturebarbarian3814 2 года назад +24

      I had the same reaction lol

    • @NicksgamertagXP
      @NicksgamertagXP 2 года назад +25

      I thought the same thing lol. I got really sad for a second.

    • @erinium19
      @erinium19 2 года назад +15

      My exact reaction lmao

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +19

      I’ve never had that kind of reaction before it had been put that way haha. I think it was because of the visual cut with the emotional delivery of “unfortunately”. There is also a bit more of a pause that would be indicative of true tragedy.
      I think the portrayal of the kind of emotional crush from that happening was too good for the gravity of the situation. lol.
      I will say though... I wonder how many incredible runs, glitches, pov’s and contributions we missed because people just quietly died and their community had no way to know, or rather that no one was able to inform the community because individuals had no connection in a physical space outside of the community. The though of it got me a little ngl.

  • @acestapp1884
    @acestapp1884 2 года назад +1979

    I was the lead programmer on the PC version of this game. Honestly I wish I could remember why we didn't have PC gamepad support, and the collision code was exactly the same between consoles and PC. Not sure why there are all those clipping issues, probably frame rate differences, but you're welcome.
    It's great seeing the love still being shown for this game. Great documentary and unbelievable runs.

    • @Chrixiam1998
      @Chrixiam1998 2 года назад +191

      Hey! Chrix here, myself and a few others have been spending time looking into this game and its beta/history, do you think you'd be willing to answer some questions or potentially do a QnA with some of us?

    • @cpt_micky
      @cpt_micky 2 года назад +43

      @@Chrixiam1998 yo that would be so sick!

    • @jasonv.5938
      @jasonv.5938 2 года назад +29

      Don't even worry about the clipping issues. I bought this on PC so long ago and shelved it for a really long time. When I finally played it I kicked myself for not doing so earlier. It's a damn fun game, and you guys did well.

    • @snbrmn9015
      @snbrmn9015 2 года назад +17

      Source: trust me bro

    • @drowningin
      @drowningin 2 года назад +37

      @@snbrmn9015 if he's,not does that ruin your day? Just because you have done nothing with your life, and feel the need to lie on the internet(obvious because you suspect it of others) does not mean that is what the average person does.
      Oh, and source: the credits at the end of the game, and probably online somewhere. A source you are too lazy to look up

  • @jedimolerat4774
    @jedimolerat4774 Год назад +396

    The plot twist actually made my jaw drop. Amazing work!

    • @kubakk40
      @kubakk40 3 месяца назад +5

      This one forced me to take a break, like literally 10 minutes earlier I was thinking how is author related to community, since he had to do a shitton of research for that vid. And then It turns out he was here all along :0

  • @MysterousBear
    @MysterousBear 2 года назад +1182

    Man, every small community online deserves to be documented with this kind of enthusiasm. Just demonstrates we are surrounded with incredible stories!

    • @bilal5270
      @bilal5270 2 года назад +5

      @@TrimMagician sonder

    • @murtaghk8408
      @murtaghk8408 2 года назад +3

      @@TrimMagician yeah tat emotion is called sonder

    • @shadowman5670
      @shadowman5670 Год назад +1

      @@murtaghk8408 sonder?

    • @PaulRudd1941
      @PaulRudd1941 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@shadowman5670 it's a relatively new word.
      If I recall correctly, it's the realization that everyone around you is leading a life that is just as complicated, nuanced, and unique as the one you lead.

  • @guiguik21
    @guiguik21 2 года назад +402

    2:00:10 ... i'll never forget that, it still hurts

  • @catalyzt9
    @catalyzt9 2 года назад +616

    I read the spoiler that there was a huge twist in this video, but didn’t know what the twist itself was. I spent the whole video thinking world record contestants perhaps planned to murder each other, and even that, didn’t prepare me for what the actual twist was. Beautiful video, beautiful game, and amazing presentation. Congratulations on a master piece.

  • @j-skullz
    @j-skullz 2 года назад +235

    Imagine going back in time and showing this video to JRR Tolkien and having to explain it all to him

    • @kota9087
      @kota9087 9 месяцев назад +3

      😂😂😂

    • @shrimpguy6900
      @shrimpguy6900 4 месяца назад +4

      Mf head would explode

    • @g_y.rtz420
      @g_y.rtz420 4 месяца назад

      LOOK WHAT YOU DID

  • @TBSkyen
    @TBSkyen 2 года назад +1380

    the PLOT TWIST at 1:30:50 oh my god

    • @sorek2372
      @sorek2372 2 года назад +51

      I know right ?! Holy Shit !

    • @Sylvaras
      @Sylvaras 2 года назад +3

      Fancy seeing you here T B

    • @alertArchitect
      @alertArchitect 2 года назад +56

      I know, right?!? 100% expected the reveal to be Prunes, but the twist we got was still super cool!

    • @sam_wilds
      @sam_wilds 2 года назад +27

      @@alertArchitect Yeah same. I genuinely was sitting back in my chair saying "It's Prunes. It's obviously Prunes." ... "Oh." ... "OH"

    • @Ralkern
      @Ralkern 2 года назад +3

      I see League lore isn't the only thing that draws your interest
      Give me that damn full arcane breakdown ím more addicted to arcane than Zaun is to shimmer

  • @WolfbytesIT
    @WolfbytesIT 2 года назад +1379

    That twist got me.
    Possibly the most well produced speedrun documentary I've ever watched, I actually found myself invested in the stakes the runners had. Amazing work.

    • @lokiprime9108
      @lokiprime9108 2 года назад +43

      In was confused about this comment until the twist hit me.

    • @SupaBlue64
      @SupaBlue64 2 года назад +47

      It got me too. I was just more impressed that this documentary had a twist better than most movies. Very well done for sure.

    • @kill5170
      @kill5170 2 года назад +14

      omg for real this was amazing

    • @DAFIZZIF
      @DAFIZZIF 2 года назад +14

      Still watching but Matt Turk?

    • @adriancousins8667
      @adriancousins8667 2 года назад +1

      Got me to dame

  • @TheTownNarcoleptic
    @TheTownNarcoleptic 2 года назад +93

    Can we just appreciate this guy telling us the name of and artist behind every bit of background music he used in this video? Truly a hero of our day

  • @Daniel-kp1lz
    @Daniel-kp1lz Год назад +938

    Or spoiling anything, but the plotwist in this was legit one of the best ive seen in any media ever. Awesome video

    • @alex_demote
      @alex_demote 10 месяцев назад +32

      Read your comment and the twist still hit like a ton of bricks. Awesome stuff

    • @Righthandfrombehind
      @Righthandfrombehind 9 месяцев назад +7

      well done

    • @T3CH-SUPP0RT
      @T3CH-SUPP0RT 9 месяцев назад +12

      I watched this video because I love listening to Speedrun histories but also because this comment had me so so so curious
      I finally got to it and I don't think I've said "wait what?? WHAT??" out loud in a hot hot minute but this was definitely deserving of that I was totally blindsided and definitely adds to the amazing quality of the video, the speedrunners who love it, and the charm of the game itself

    • @JosephWalker-ip7pd
      @JosephWalker-ip7pd 8 месяцев назад +5

      You need to watch more movies or read more books then lol.

    • @T3CH-SUPP0RT
      @T3CH-SUPP0RT 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@JosephWalker-ip7pd Do you have any you recommend? I've started asking for people to recommend books to me that they think people should read for my birthdays but I'd love to hear options throughout the year too!

  • @treytreytrey
    @treytreytrey 2 года назад +135

    Schneider getting pissed off and slaughtering the record was some of the most gangster shit I’ve seen in speedrunning.

  • @RaccChannel
    @RaccChannel 2 года назад +496

    I'm going to be honest, this is everything I've ever wanted in a speedrunning Doc - it's absolutely so apparent that you've spent countless hours looking through exact changes to the routes and new discoveries. To tie up all of this while making it engaging and carry the gravitas of just how hard you and your contemporaries in the scene worked is an absolute feat.
    Thank you for this!

    • @PenelopeNaomi
      @PenelopeNaomi 2 года назад +1

      They knew the exact changes, because *THEY WERE THE ROUTE!*

    • @duskshade520
      @duskshade520 2 года назад +3

      Them being the route, does not mean that they wouldn't have to research to make sure they weren't misremembering dates and the people who originally discovered, or re-discovered forgotten tricks.
      Example, it would be a dick move to say "ye in october of that year, that person discovered this" when the truth is that someone else discovered it years earlier, but no setup or a shit unreliable setup made nobody wanted to grind said trick. @@PenelopeNaomi

  • @Chrixiam1998
    @Chrixiam1998 Год назад +46

    ONE MILLION.

  • @yourXface1000
    @yourXface1000 Год назад +43

    I'm not a speedrunner, but i absolutely love watching history of speedrunning videos. i love the drama of new skips / tricks getting discovered and used. and GIRL. when you revealed the identity of iRule... i lost my mind. i was GAGGED. that was so masterful, thank you for the drama, and thank you for your contribution to the speedrunning community and for making this awesome video! much love!

    • @yourXface1000
      @yourXface1000 Год назад +2

      also it is by no means too long, i absolutely love long video essays haha, the longer the better tbh! especially when they are well written and edited like this one. well done!

  • @SuPeRNinJaRed
    @SuPeRNinJaRed 2 года назад +420

    With all this jumping and slope boosts they should rename it to the Hoppit....

    • @mraires3896
      @mraires3896 2 года назад +16

      laughed out loud on this one... imagining how speed running a similliarly styled LoTR game, the Hoppit returns

    • @lemonybiscuits4824
      @lemonybiscuits4824 2 года назад +3

      Yoink. 🐰🐰

  • @LinaFleer
    @LinaFleer 2 года назад +3649

    This was so good! I didn't see that twist coming and actually gasped!

    • @uncleslam9022
      @uncleslam9022 2 года назад +159

      Agree. Incredible presentation and development. You really can't make this stuff up.

    • @mraires3896
      @mraires3896 2 года назад +88

      I have gotta agree, probably the best I have seen, especially with how things were painted... genuinely teared up a bit

    • @lordramdyx6139
      @lordramdyx6139 2 года назад +87

      Same, that actually made me shake my head and say "Wait, 'What?!'" out loud! That was a *Flawless* reveal.

    • @AustinViolence
      @AustinViolence 2 года назад +17

      What was the twist?

    • @joncolpaert8810
      @joncolpaert8810 2 года назад +91

      @@AustinViolence *SPOILER*
      the creator of the video being one of the WR contestants himself, he talked about himself in third person for the first half of the video in order not to reveal it.
      Fantastic video, MKarma!

  • @sneekylilbast
    @sneekylilbast Год назад +175

    For a year now this video has never left my mind, if I could wipe my memory and watch it again for the first time I would in a heartbeat.
    This is genuinely one of my favourite videos on YT

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  Год назад +29

      Thanks for the kind words

    • @mikoro88
      @mikoro88 Год назад +8

      Hah! I just did _exactly_ that!🤣
      That's funny! I am watching it for the second time, and had forgotten most of it. So much so, that when it now came time for the plot twist, I had _completely_ forgotten it! To the point that even after reading a comment just above yours, saying the plot twist was the best he'd seen, I _still_ didn't remember! And I was completely caught off guard and by surprise!
      It's not all sprinkles and rainbows though. I smoked _a lot_ of cannabis, and did _a lot_ of drugs to get this bad memory.
      And it doesn't really help with much else than re-consuming media. So.. =/
      But yeah, it's a good piece of media!

  • @cytyzent
    @cytyzent 2 года назад +161

    I wasn't expecting such a heartfelt, sincere outro like that. Honestly got me really emotional. I'm so glad to have watched this, it was so enjoyable watching all of this put together. You did a fantastic job here, and all the work you put in to make the game you love stand out.

  • @krock0178
    @krock0178 2 года назад +831

    As someone who grew up with this game, I'm happy there is such a dedicated fanbase to this game.
    Thanks MKarma and penguinz0

    • @zero1zerolast393
      @zero1zerolast393 2 года назад +13

      Out of all the Bilbo variation I've seen, this and the 70s Hobbit are in my option, the best

    • @mentalpopcorn2304
      @mentalpopcorn2304 2 года назад +3

      I use to play the first level on repeat as a kid, never would've found this awesome community and history without those 2.

    • @cubicinfinity2
      @cubicinfinity2 2 года назад

      The critics could say what they want, but I thought this had great gameplay!

    • @wolfenislife7248
      @wolfenislife7248 2 года назад +5

      @@cubicinfinity2 people seem to forget nowadays, that if you have FUN playing a game, who the HELL CARES if other people don’t like it/aren’t happy with it? Enjoying yourself should come first no matter what!

    • @leelduttis4086
      @leelduttis4086 2 года назад

      @@wolfenislife7248 exactly

  • @p1ruku
    @p1ruku 2 года назад +468

    HOLY FUCK that twist was insane. i was literally just listening to this in the background but got really committed and literally said "WHAT!?" outloud with that reveal

    • @SteezyMPeezy
      @SteezyMPeezy 2 года назад +4

      You could hear his voice the entire video smh

    • @x3dfritz0
      @x3dfritz0 2 года назад +15

      @@SteezyMPeezy you got some bad vibes dude

    • @emilianoaventura5295
      @emilianoaventura5295 2 года назад +5

      Very funny you mention it because I read this comment before the twist and when the twist came I said "WHAT?" out loud, I just remembered this comment and said to myself "wow the twist really was insane"

    • @ethandavies4623
      @ethandavies4623 2 года назад +2

      SAME, I literally looked at comments to see if anyone else was zoinked by that twist lmaoo

  • @lordmexican1897
    @lordmexican1897 Год назад +48

    I’ve tried to find other speed run documentaries as good as this one. Nothing comes close. A masterpiece of RUclips history for me.

    • @armored_guy
      @armored_guy 3 месяца назад +2

      I think you might like summoning salt. He makes very similar videos.

    • @tobyneff9793
      @tobyneff9793 Месяц назад

      @@armored_guyI legit thought I was watching summing salt until the reveal halfway through

  • @ndescruzur4378
    @ndescruzur4378 2 года назад +302

    At the beginning: He died 3 times on this cliff but didn't do bad overall so it was a world record
    Later: He wiggled the camera for a frame which killed the run
    It is always cool to see how with every new optimization the speedrun becomes more sophisticate and close to perfect. Incredible story and video, probably one of the bests I've seen on youtube

    • @janah6473
      @janah6473 Год назад +8

      You have no idea how much i appreciate this comment. I used to speedrun portal in its infancy, and i soon stopped being able to compete because i wasnt mechanically gifted enough.

  • @MD_Pi
    @MD_Pi 2 года назад +256

    Masterpiece

    • @destroyerdee9587
      @destroyerdee9587 2 года назад +3

      Yeah dude

    • @eldonhill4840
      @eldonhill4840 2 года назад +8

      Nice job on all your glitch hunting work dude!

    • @juggerdawg4505
      @juggerdawg4505 2 года назад +6

      md pi you're a masterpiece. you beautiful game breaking person.

  • @CrescentLegend
    @CrescentLegend 2 года назад +497

    Never have I literally gasped to a documentary. What an unreal reveal over half way through the video. Phenomenal work on this! Worth every second of watching and now The Hobbit has become one of my favorite speedruns I've learned of.

    • @darkranger116
      @darkranger116 2 года назад +8

      same! I was like WTF

    • @SteezyMPeezy
      @SteezyMPeezy 2 года назад

      38.00 you can hear his voice and is sounds exactly the same … are you like 5

    • @CrescentLegend
      @CrescentLegend 2 года назад +2

      @@SteezyMPeezy Aw man, you got me. 5 year old here, reveal was still fantastic. Amazing WR video recap.

  • @DrPancakesPhD
    @DrPancakesPhD Год назад +31

    Yo I just watched this from critical. Even nine months later I just wanted to tell you you just such a great job on this masterpiece. It’s awesome to see you found something you and your community was so passionate about. It’s nice seeing that treated with such respect.

  • @thegoodyearlimp6643
    @thegoodyearlimp6643 2 года назад +10

    I summon the power of the RUclips algorithm-this video tells a better story than 90% of the movies that have been produced in the last decade. Well worth the listen-10/10.

  • @YayaBunWa
    @YayaBunWa 2 года назад +306

    This ain’t a flop, bro. What flop? This video was insanely engaging, and I’m not even a speed runner (or much of a gamer, even).
    Was worth all the effort, dude. What a fricking ride, haha. Was really clear to discern the different timelines - a massive accomplishment granted the sheer number of dates, personalities, and accomplishments.
    Congrats on successfully making every participant in your doco feel like an anime protagonist, lmao. What an sick narrative, yo~ A+!

  • @noisemagician
    @noisemagician 2 года назад +708

    You are a great storyteller, no, an amazing storyteller. I don't care about speed runs or the game but you had me interested the entire 3 hours.

    • @JustinLT212
      @JustinLT212 2 года назад +9

      It was like watching DBZ mfs left the platform for years and came back super powered (irage/mkarma) or there was the absolute monster that seemed unstoppable in Schneider this whole vid was just insane…

    • @dartinez9532
      @dartinez9532 2 года назад +2

      fr I've never played anything other than GTA but I've always enjoyed good content.

    • @phoenixphxx8130
      @phoenixphxx8130 2 года назад

      Seconded

  • @artsenor254
    @artsenor254 2 года назад +41

    Just so you know, I think the video's length is the reason why I clicked on this one. When people spend this much time in this kind of content, I know it will be quality, and much more immersive than a fifteen minutes summary. Beautiful video overall, I didn't know this game at all (which honestly looks great), and I had an amazing time watching !

  • @depppata
    @depppata 11 месяцев назад +13

    This is a true masterpiece. The main story of the unknown hero, the reveal and finally the "retirement" and support of his competitor. I love the storytelling and even though I've never played the game it feels like i did.

  • @Dwhatever
    @Dwhatever 2 года назад +437

    what insanely well made video man, proud of you for finishing such a long piece of art

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +57

      couldn't have done it without your feedback and encouragement

    • @SwogFrog
      @SwogFrog 2 года назад +16

      @@MKarma The sheer amount of editing and love for the history of the community’s in this vid is really heartwarming, glad you were able to share the story

  • @SilenceEruptsGL
    @SilenceEruptsGL 2 года назад +604

    Absolutely incredible! Thank you so much for creating a comprehensive history of everything. I truly enjoyed every second of it :D

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +11

      Thank you for being a part of such an incredible story. You pushed so hard. You all are so talented. Your dedication is crazy. Keep on it. Boundary breaking is so special.

    • @anopiniononyt9585
      @anopiniononyt9585 2 года назад +2

      You're amazing!!!

  • @mrpojsomnoj3313
    @mrpojsomnoj3313 8 месяцев назад +7

    It's incredible how much love your community have for this game. PC competition between Old GameCube Gods was my favorite part.

  • @dawgchain
    @dawgchain Год назад +8

    I fell asleep watching some easteregg videos, then I woke up to this playing and was so caught up in the story I could not even try to sleep until I saw it through.
    Hollywood should take notes on how to make a wholesome and engaging story.

  • @morningnapalm9963
    @morningnapalm9963 2 года назад +116

    1:30:39 Possibly greatest cinematic reveal I've seen. Also kind of amazing how these records get beaten whenever a player is the most non-chalant/relaxed VS when they're seriously trying to beat it. Awesome vid.

  • @NopeNopeNope9124
    @NopeNopeNope9124 2 года назад +244

    Back around 2013 or 2014 when you had the WR, I remember you taking your own free time to actually teach/tutor me on how to speedrun the game, I didn't make much from it, and I was just a dumb kid just getting into high school at the time. It's cool looking back on that still though, so thanks for the experience and time you took to help some random kid who was just curious and having fun with speedrunning

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +75

      Haha I was happy to try to get more people into the community. Were you hsmboy or has my memory faded too much?

    • @NopeNopeNope9124
      @NopeNopeNope9124 2 года назад +48

      @@MKarma My username around then must've been Still_Alive, butimstillalive, or maybe dslyexiac. I think it was only a handful of sessions and its been forever so no worries about a faded memory lol. Wish you luck on your future speedruns

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +93

      @@NopeNopeNope9124 oh dang it was definitely dslyexiac, and I remember calling you dsly. You came to my chat a lot back then, but I didn't remember you running the game too. Sick to see you're still around.

    • @usedTNT
      @usedTNT 2 года назад +15

      butimstillaround

    • @flubzee
      @flubzee 2 года назад +6

      @@usedTNT w story based response

  • @cheesecakelasagna
    @cheesecakelasagna 3 месяца назад +5

    Usually journalists/historians document stuff like this from the outside, so this so cool.

  • @vore_jeff_bezos746
    @vore_jeff_bezos746 Год назад +79

    CONGRATS ON 1 MILL VIEWS, you're easily my fave speedrunner

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  Год назад +25

      Thanks vore jeff bezos

  • @nilsjonsson1133
    @nilsjonsson1133 2 года назад +205

    This was your first long-form video essay?! If the Algorithm picks up on this one, and I hope it will, you should consider doing more of these.

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +69

      Haha I hope so. I wouldn't mind doing more of these if it's worth the effort.

    • @delk1299
      @delk1299 2 года назад +21

      Well I came here thanks to the algorythm, but not because it recommended it to me but rather because for whatever reason this video is sending lots of traffic into my runs and I have no connection to the hobbit whatsoever

    • @hippityxhoppity
      @hippityxhoppity 2 года назад +8

      Think it might be picking it up cuz this was just sitting in my recommended

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +4

      I love things like Summoning Salt videos so this was no surprise to get in my feed, but what I didn’t expect was the quality. I took a chance on a 2 1/2 hr video and I am not disappointed. I also vote more please yes please document how incredible this sub section of speedrunning is as a culture within video games!

  • @Mojo24717
    @Mojo24717 2 года назад +77

    If you get around to reading this; I'm a sucker for documentaries, and stumbling upon this at 7AM when I couldn't sleep has been one of the best RUclips journeys I'm glad I stumbled upon.
    I'm sure everyone has mentioned the twist was one of the best done ever in a documentary, but for me, you're humility as a person and seeing your personal growth in how you talk about yourself and others in the community has been the biggest thing that stuck out to me. To be able to call yourself out on your past pride/mistakes in general is never a fun thing as a human. Literally after the reveal, I was mesmerized by your voice. The main thought was, "no way this is actually the guy who quit a while back... it's not the same guy?..." but you've changed and grown up wonderfully, and this documentary proved it.
    I had no care or interest in this game, and I may never touch it because I have too many other games I'm invested in; but this journey, this game, this documentary, I will always remember and definitely watch again because of how well done it is. Thank you for this awesome video, and I wish you well on your journey of speed-running and cultivating the awesome community that you have : D

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +12

      I've been reading all the comments, good or bad. Thank you so much for the kind words. I'm really happy you experienced the documentary this way.

  • @Ganymede545
    @Ganymede545 11 месяцев назад +6

    Every so often you find a video that you just cannot stop thinking about, and you just keep rewatching over and over again. This video is like that for me, absolutely astounding quality, the storyline, crystal clear mechanical explanations, the reveal, and the montages all add up to one of, if not, the best video's on RUclips that I have ever seen. Thank you for this piece of art.

  • @Ty_Hill
    @Ty_Hill 3 месяца назад +3

    I never thought I would be so invested in a relatively niche speedrunning community of a game I had never heard of. Very well made video

  • @sanklito
    @sanklito 2 года назад +190

    I never played the hobbit, I didn't even know of its existence, but I always like to see a world record history of any game. This is a masterpiece, I can't express how much I enjoyed watching it. Having no idea what the current wr of the game was great, I enjoyed the story and got excited for every achievement you told. The revelation at minute 1:30:39 was shocking, I didn't expect it at all. Thank you very much for making this video and congratulations to all the runners who participated in this magnificent story and this game, I am going to have to play it and try the speedrun.

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +23

      Thanks so much for the kind words :')

    • @persydiangelo8461
      @persydiangelo8461 2 года назад +17

      This comment is exactly my situation. And as a fan of speedrunning and Summoning Salt- Style history and progression videos, I'm blown away by this documentary. The editing is great, the writing is great, the music is great (I'm a massive fan of Wintergatan, so gasped at their music almost as much as I did the twist, which I'll have you know, covered me in goosebumps and left me giggling), and this run I great. Very well done sir.

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +2

      @@persydiangelo8461 I full heartedly agree. What a ride. Even stories about speedrunning histories, as good as they are when SS and others tell them, are a different class when you see it in the eyes of someone who actually ran them in top 5 for so long. Everyone talks about the twist, but the last 30min right around the mine carts was the shocking and amazing segment to me. It was such a trip.

  • @HollandTHG
    @HollandTHG 2 года назад +104

    This. This was beautifully crafted. 10/10 On the Twist, 10/10 on the structure, 10/10 on the representation of every major player in the history of the speedruns. Absolutely glorious. Subscribed.

  • @OmniVirusHS
    @OmniVirusHS Год назад +35

    This masterpiece has surpassed 1m Views. It deserves it.

  • @ReddoX30
    @ReddoX30 2 года назад +57

    I don't speedrun the game, however I was hooked for the entire duration of the video! You really have talent for making videos, I really liked the plot twist at 1:30:50 :)

  • @inFamous1553
    @inFamous1553 2 года назад +82

    This is a beefy video but one of the best (if not the best period) speedrun history videos I've ever seen. None of the time is wasted and it covers literally every major development of Hobbit speedruns.

    • @MKarma
      @MKarma  2 года назад +13

      Really happy to hear that, thanks!

  • @mascarale
    @mascarale 2 года назад +33

    I've been trying for the last 15 minutes to write a comment about how absolutely fantastic this video is but I'm still speechless, peak speedrunning documentary.

  • @AstraKiseki
    @AstraKiseki Год назад +9

    I heard this knowing the twist due to another documentary elsewhere. It was still well done and beautifully executed because I didn't know when the reveal would occur. Thank you for existing, it's fun to see this sort of passion and a willingness to illuminate people's povs with this stuff.

  • @gragigi7055
    @gragigi7055 Год назад +11

    This is easily one of the best speedrun history videos ever made. Especially with the neat plot twist that the video creator is actually one of the og world record holders.
    I just wonder how much time it took to write down the entire story, compile all the footage and edit it so masterfully.
    Can't wait to get this in my recommended again in a few years 🙃

  • @Choolio94
    @Choolio94 2 года назад +76

    I don't normally comment on RUclips videos and I'm not really actively involved in speed running any games, and I've never played The Hobbit game, but this is one of the best produced videos I've ever seen on RUclips. I'm a big fan of speedrun documentary content and this was absolutely phenomenal. The twist everyone was talking about blew my mind. What a fantastic video I'm very impressed with how much work went into this and keep up the amazing work!

  • @alexanderflood1462
    @alexanderflood1462 2 года назад +82

    I just wanna commend you for being so genuinely positive about all the runners here, even as one of the runners yourself. I really found myself rooting for each new person every time you introduced one! Thanks so much for the video

  • @michaelzborowskyii4668
    @michaelzborowskyii4668 5 месяцев назад +5

    Everything about this is phenomenal. The community, the record runs, the sgdq showcasing... This video is great quality, very entertaining, and informative and the music throughout the video is so sick. I'd like to bump it on the car stereo while cruising.
    Edit: Even the comment section is fire. Nice end to my first day back to work after the new year. Happy new year hoping 2024 is a killer year for the speed running community!!

  • @Malevolent_Icon
    @Malevolent_Icon 2 года назад +19

    Man, this video was such a ride. The humble beginnings making me care about a throw away game from my childhood, to the ever changing crown, and my god that twist? Man you dropped such a bomb and yet that wasn't even the high point. Just the sheer amount of time poured into this for the smallest optimizations is impressive as is, and the dedication and hard work is unbelievable. Honestly man this was wonderful. 10/10

  • @LockeRobsta
    @LockeRobsta 2 года назад +432

    It doesn't matter how obscure a game is, when someone puts as much love and attention into a topic and video as you've done here, people will flock to it.
    Fantastic video mate!

    • @ggaming8999
      @ggaming8999 2 года назад

      This game was actually really good

  • @MrKaxid
    @MrKaxid 2 года назад +78

    Ok, so, take this however you choose. I am a RUclips addicted, however I tend not to watch too many uploads over 60min.
    This is a whole new level. I’ve never played The Hobbit, I’ve only watched the occasional Mario64, OoT and Halo Speedrun.
    I watched your amazing movie from start to finish. NonStop, no breaks, and loved it.
    You have created something with plot lines across a timeline, with alternate timelines and (no spoilers) I am so happy I stayed away from the comments and the scripted twists are executed so well. I completely agree with you’re creative decisions.
    Thank you so much for taking such incredible effort to make this incredible documentary and sharing this with a new community, and thank you to all the other members listed on the video for pushing each other forward to create the base plot to be able to write this masterpiece.

  • @E1m0ren
    @E1m0ren 4 месяца назад +2

    I knew nothing of any subject contained in this video prior to watching it.
    What an outstanding piece of work this collection of stories and achievements is. Thank you for creating it.

  • @Xenoclides
    @Xenoclides Год назад +14

    That twist was amazing. Having gone in completely unknowing of this games speedrun community, pulling out that Icebagel was iRule was one thing but for it to be a double reveal.. That was good.
    Really enjoyed the whole video even with it being nearly 3hrs, it never seemed like it dragged

  • @awareclueless
    @awareclueless 2 года назад +91

    Holy shit, there is no fucking way anyone and I mean anyone not knowing the hobbit community at all couldve predicted this twist. Your writing is sick and I loved every bit of the video. Nice stuff!

  • @sigurdtheblue
    @sigurdtheblue 2 года назад +43

    Interesting how you basically gave the important aspects of every speedrun to us instead of giving a vague description of the improvements. I can imagine how hype that first teleport trick with black arrow was. But I feel like I will watch this video again after I have seen the game and speedruns of it because of how deep this goes into the history.

  • @JustHackingAround
    @JustHackingAround Год назад +5

    This is honestly my favorite type of video. With all the bans and deletions and defunct websites and out-of-print games that the Internet experiences over time, this sort of video is a valuable encapsulation of a segment of history which could otherwise have been forgotten or never known about by most people. Thank you for the incredible 2h 40min of content. I'm sure it took over 10x that amount of time to research and produce. I remember speed-running Super Mario 3 back in the early 90's, not even knowing speed running was a thing, but thinking it was pretty cool to beat it on my own in under half an hour. The Internet obviously changed everything, and such an incredible amount of time and effort is put into discovering and exploiting glitches for the sake of beating the fastest run. It's still a niche interest which has room to grow!

  • @christopherames7864
    @christopherames7864 Год назад +2

    Hard to remember a time I was this invested in the community of a game I have zero interest in playing (or indeed, watching a video about, in any other context). What an enjoyable video!
    Thanks dude!

  • @nikmarshall2989
    @nikmarshall2989 2 года назад +97

    This game honestly looks just awesome to run. Look at Bilbo go jumping around and glitching through walls like a champ.

  • @CorpusInsanus
    @CorpusInsanus 2 года назад +71

    Absolutely captivating! To both find out my childhood game has a speedrunning community and be completely engrossed in its years of rich history was a joy. My eyes were glued to the screen through the whole thing, and the twist in the middle damn near floored me with how well you set it up. Bravo!

  • @aldiswhylita7150
    @aldiswhylita7150 2 года назад +6

    I loved this game when I was younger, and while I know nothing about speedrunning, it was just fascinating to hear MKarma go over all the info and explain everything so that I could easily understand it all. I have to keep checking the time of the video because I kept thinking there was no way it could possibly get any lower, then seeing I was only a third of the way through. Fantastic work to everyone involved on this video!

  • @bungobogus8132
    @bungobogus8132 Год назад +6

    A year later and this is still the best speedrunning doc I’ve seen

  • @nathancarter8239
    @nathancarter8239 2 года назад +263

    Bilbo: I want an adventure!
    Bilbo, 11 minutes, 57 seconds and 433 milliseconds later: All done! Never doing that again.
    Great video! I loved seeing the history you shared in a community I'm not very familiar with.

    • @FloatingOer
      @FloatingOer 2 года назад +11

      Just in time to get back home for second breakfast!

    • @TheBonkleFox
      @TheBonkleFox 2 года назад +7

      Who needs an invisibility ring when you have reflexes capable of breaking reality

  • @madisonpetty9321
    @madisonpetty9321 2 года назад +104

    This is one of the most engaging documentaries I've ever seen - from the crystal clear timeline to the breakdown of individual tricks to the uninterrupted montages of sweet, sweet gameplay. Fantastic showcase of a game and a community, and it really speaks to the Hobbit community in general that it could inspire such a comprehensive labor of love like this video. I loved how long this was and I'm excited to see whatever comes next!

  • @purikiss9912
    @purikiss9912 2 года назад +5

    I don't know how I guessed the twist, I have never heard of this game or this community before now... I just had a suspicion!! I love how comprehensive this history was and I love the music you used, it really added to the emotion and pace of the story. Truly an excellent presentation of a fascinating subject and community. Thank you for sharing your passion!!

  • @askoldmodera
    @askoldmodera 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's amazing how you guys were able to find all these glitches and skips, especially finding invisible triggers in early days, and cool things like developer mode later.
    Though I'm more interested in the game from it's cut beta content perspective it's still fascinating to see how all that were evolving.
    And it's very well done documentary by the way. Thanks for your hard work!

  • @endro7503
    @endro7503 2 года назад +60

    This is honestly better than most big budget sport documentaries i've seen. I'm glad I clicked on this video, almost ignored it for it's long duration.
    You have a talent for storytelling and editting. You made a 2h40 video with 0 boring segments.

  • @theonlysinisharm
    @theonlysinisharm 2 года назад +84

    That nearly 3 hour timestamp really doesn't matter much if you can keep the viewers transfixed the whole way through.
    I don't know how you did it, but this is one of the best documentaries I've ever watched. I wasn't planning on watching the whole thing but I had to. You wove the story so well and I never felt like I needed to put the rest off for later or anything. Now I wanna make a video like this, I just don't know what it'll be about lmao
    Keep up the great work dude!

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +4

      This is how I felt. I watch summoning salt so I already enjoy speedrunning documentaries, but had told myself I would give it a chance at least 20-25 min to feel out this new (to me) creator and I’m so glad I did. I hope he keeps making more. What a ride.

    • @velvetaeon2774
      @velvetaeon2774 2 года назад

      Remember to always skip the troll hole!

  • @TheOdMan
    @TheOdMan 8 месяцев назад +2

    This game looks unironically really good. I don't understand why I missed so many games around this time, I was 23 years old in 2003 and had been into gaming my entire life, but constantly I find myself having missed games that came out in the early to mid 2000's. It's interesting.

  • @PatSpeedruns
    @PatSpeedruns Год назад +7

    You have no idea how many times I keep coming back to watch this video! I love watching it so much. It's so incredibly well made with fantastic commentary! It's one of the best videos I've ever seen in on RUclips in general! You're awesome bro ❤️

  • @Mechimmortal
    @Mechimmortal 2 года назад +95

    Never thought I'd be watching a speedrun doc, especially on such a random game, but it was amazing! Communities like this make gaming great.

  • @froggyranger
    @froggyranger 2 года назад +53

    I've watched this two nights in a row to help me sleep. That's not to say this is boring by any means. It's the exact opposite. It's a fantastic deep dive into the intricacies of an old game that brought hundreds joy! You did an amazing job on this video, and I pray it brings you success in the future of your career!

    • @franciscor390
      @franciscor390 2 года назад +4

      True its almost told as a tale. Probably wasn't even intentional but ended up being a work of art.

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +3

      I do this with legend of Zelda reviews. I have played through almost every game and appreciate other view points, but I can close my eyes and listen because I HAVE played it, and it calms me into sleep almost every time. It’s way better than ASMR. Lol

  • @tokidoki3405
    @tokidoki3405 2 года назад +5

    I'm always impressed by speedrunning. But my favourite thing about this is just to picture in-game if Bilbo was actually just hardcore parkouring his way to the lonely mountain. Just a tiny Hobbit hauling ass through Middle Earth. Absolutely tearing it up.

  • @jamesfranch7183
    @jamesfranch7183 Год назад +3

    You made a feature length movie. Perhaps MKarmas most impressive accomplishment to date.

  • @Benco97
    @Benco97 2 года назад +171

    8:00 "Unfortunately, Aceprune died" I actually gasped before you continued to explain that he died IN GAME, slowing the run down. Something about the pacing and build up to you saying that totally made me think, just for a moment, that you meant IRL!

  • @JakeyDee
    @JakeyDee 2 года назад +21

    I don't watch speedruns, never heard of this game, don't know why I clicked on the video. But I watched 2 hours and 42 minutes about speedrunning a game i've never heard of and it was pretty great. Nice work :)

  • @CelticGuardian7
    @CelticGuardian7 2 года назад +6

    plot twist of the year
    Seriously, this was a fantastic watch. I was hooked thanks to the great explanations of the speedrun tech and the personalities of the speedrunners. With the interesting mechanics it has to offer, I can see why this game would be incredibly fun to speedrun. Thanks for the amazing documentary!

  • @Justanoddpeach
    @Justanoddpeach Год назад +5

    My guy, all seriousness. This was incredibly well done. As much as it seems like youtube is very clearly on the back burner for you, should you do more I'll be there to watch it. I stayed up way later than normal just to finish it, because I refused to sleep without knowing how this would end. I didn't know I needed this information, but I am beyond grateful for your bestowing of this knowledge.

  • @xliak
    @xliak 2 года назад +147

    This is a MASTERPIECE! Even though I've never even heard of this game before this documentary was really interesting for some reason. Solid storytelling and great music. Thank you.

  • @user-ev4qz9iy1d
    @user-ev4qz9iy1d 2 года назад +6

    I'm here from penguinz0, I think he and everyone agrees that u did a phenomenal job putting this video together. damn.

  • @shauneff1933
    @shauneff1933 3 месяца назад +2

    2 years later. I’ve never speed ran a game. Even so, this video is amazing and I watched it the entire way through. I always kind of figured speed running was really competitive and cause a lot of “beef” between runners, this changed my perspective completely hearing how you guys came together collectively to make runs as a whole faster, makes me want to run something.

  • @Hadokane
    @Hadokane Год назад +4

    That was the best plot twist of all time! What a hero!

  • @DaniloGanzella
    @DaniloGanzella 2 года назад +7

    that plot twist mid-video was amazing hahzhaha

  • @truffles635
    @truffles635 2 года назад +87

    1:35:55 to 11:52
    All that with in the last 18 years. You guys basically broke this game down to its core and figured everything about it. I’m am truly impressed and the video is amazing. Congratulations guys!

    • @truffles635
      @truffles635 2 года назад

      @genericjohnsmithname can’t wait to see man! So crazy that you guys keep discovering.

    • @truffles635
      @truffles635 2 года назад

      @genericjohnsmithname lol oh my bad haha, I see now.

  • @franticpony1376
    @franticpony1376 2 года назад +6

    It's been said before but I still have to say, that twist made me literally yell out loud. But even without that, this was an amazingly well done and detailed video. Very interesting and enjoyable throughout. Kudos to you and the entire community!

  • @based_oregano
    @based_oregano 2 года назад +5

    im so happy that AT started this trend of giving a full history of a speedrun in a long format. this is a very good video, and ive been playing the hobbit since i was a little guy. thank you

  • @unepiccube9204
    @unepiccube9204 2 года назад +16

    Simpleflips appearing on this video felt like a celebrity guest cameo in a tv show and im all here for it
    (Also him forgetting the speedrun route for the final level and doing the normal route seems like a bit he would totally do lmao)

  • @scolibro7163
    @scolibro7163 2 года назад +24

    I played this game as a kid. Never got past the arkenstone level, then lost my copy of the game. Even in my adult years, I’ve tried to find it to no avail. I love this game, and am amazed to learn about the deep and rich history the speedrunning community has created for it. You guys are the best.

    • @monkeysk8er33
      @monkeysk8er33 2 года назад

      You honestly didn't miss much. It's really not a great game. I've played 90s games that still hold up to this day, but this is not one of those hidden gems.

    • @smilesfordays
      @smilesfordays 2 года назад +1

      @@monkeysk8er33 it’s funny how it’s such a mailable and fascinating speedrunning game that transcended being at best a mediocre and dated vanilla playthrough. I actually appreciate things like that. I’m reminded in a small way of Summoning Salt’s documentary of choco mountain in Mario cart 64. Never one of my favorites despite being a top 15% at worst of non professional/speedrunning players because of the linear nature of the high walls and narrow track. I always preferred almost any other track that let people come back and do unexpected moves that keep it fresh for me. The track really is be in first, or you ain’t winning... but the speedrunning aspect makes the lore one of my favorites from an objective standpoint.
      I’ll never pick that track on purpose on my N64 game night we have, I’ll never try running the speedrun tactics that make it unique... but I have grown to respect it in a way I never would have without those players running it over and over until it became more than the developers ever dreamed.
      I’m not saying you’re incorrect, but sometimes we don’t appreciate code and data in games as developers intended... but the gem comes out when you can look at it an another way.

  • @chainedpanda9574
    @chainedpanda9574 Год назад +4

    This is absolutely nuts. I couldn't care about this game, or speedruns any less than I already do, however this entire video had me hooked from start to finish. I actually became captivated by some of the individuals involved and even began cheering for certain people at various times. Bravo for this video!

  • @11274reece
    @11274reece 3 месяца назад +2

    I come back here every so often to rewatch, really is one of the best long form videos on here.

  • @TheRiptideXD
    @TheRiptideXD 2 года назад +62

    I can not believe that you don’t have experience with these kinds of videos. This felt so professionally made in every aspect and had me hooked the whole way through. Amazing job, and thank you for sharing this incredible story with all of us!

  • @truffles635
    @truffles635 2 года назад +51

    Major props to Schneider he was there for a long time fighting even when chrix was breaking records. And the Schneider even got to hold the lead and continue to take it back. What a legend.

  • @chompythebeast
    @chompythebeast Год назад +3

    I was wondering when you'd divulge your role in this play, as all speedrunning historians do, and when the reveal happened the way it did, I laughed out loud and immediately came down here to comment this and subscribe. Bravo, IceBagels, bravo

  • @nzzhiseiebeosbdosabwkwjnssnkss
    @nzzhiseiebeosbdosabwkwjnssnkss 2 года назад +3

    I've been playing The Hobbit since I was 3 years old "2006" and it means alot to me especially because it was my FIRST game I ever played. Last summer I got my best friend to try out the game and he loves it alot. The story depicts the Tolkien books very well, the gameplay is very video gamey instead of attempting full on realism, and the speed running is S tier. Thank you Karma for giving this hidden gem the recognition its always deserved :)