What Made CS Lewis Throw Narnia In The Trash

One of the world's leading Scholars on Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, tells the story of how Tolkien almost made C.S. Lewis throw out the Narnia stories.
Diana Glyer has been studying the Inklings, which is a writers group that consisted of many top authors, including J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis, who discussed and shared their work with each other.
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[@erhon5]

I’m so glad it didn’t stay in the trash

[@jaewok5G]

nothing 'changed', he just decided not to trash his friend in public and that just because he thought it sucked, doesn't mean other people can't fairly enjoy it. … this is why god invented chocolate _and_ vanilla … and for you freaks out there, strawberry as well … apparently.

[@stefanwalicord2512]

Lol you strawberry-icecream-phobe

[@jaewok5G]

@@stefanwalicord2512 shhhhh don't tell anyone, but I'm most likely to get black raspberry.

[@stefanwalicord2512]

@@jaewok5G that sounds really good actually lol

[@bretthess6376]

And deep-pan pineapple pizza.... Mmmm 😋

[@jaewok5G]

@@bretthess6376 you have 10 days to report to a local hospital for chemical sterilization

[@pinktastic6159]

Mr Tumnus is great. In love him.

[@Henry-dv8tw]

He probably realized that kids liked it and chilled out

[@HORSESNDOGS9]

Nah, i think he had a strong initial reaction because of the way he thought it could've been better, but then softened up when he had more time to consider it.

[@kristalt.7404]

What a beautiful and infromative video and gave quite detail of my fave author's character, C.S. Lewis, and his friend which is also a great author, Tolkkein.

[@soapiscooler]

I honestly think it was the difference in the writings, Tolkien, a hard HARD fantasy author would dislike anything cross breeding real life and fantasy (He wouldnt have liked Harry Potter, The Wizard of Oz ((or maybe he did correct me if im wrong) or other light fantasy stories

[@soapiscooler]

@@theknight8560 I would disagree, to me Fantasy is any different world you want to keep going and you want to see thrive, some of Miyawaki's works I can agree are also like this, I like a completely different but similar world, such as LOTR with the ideas of those dynasty and monarchies, along with the magical element of the world. This does not mean I dislike Narnia, Oz, or Harry Potter, I just enjoy LOTR more and feel more emersed in it.

[@nathangrabow8333]

seems right.

[@GingerJesusSaves]

She says in the video, that Tolkien came to admire it. And bought it for his family. He just wasn't sympathetic to the books. Watch it all again.

[@arlibrarian]

It was the lamp post. A bridge too far for him.

[@nicholasadams9749]

Great video, keep up the awesome work y’all do

[@RubeRad]

@Ethan "What is up with Narnia all the time with random characters showing up, like Father Christmas, or those sylphs dancing in the woods"
It's not random at all, and I can't believe a Lewis scholar like Dr Glyer would let this drop. Just as Dr Glyer wrote The Company We Keep for academics, and distilled it to Bandersnatch for a general audience, Michael Ward wrote Planet Narnia for academics, and The Narnia Code for a general audience. He explains clearly how the underlying, hidden theme binding the Narnia books together, is The Planets -- in their medieval conception anyway, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. Each book is one planet, and is suffused with that planet's ethos and mythology.
Read either The Narnia Code or Planet Narnia, and it will enable you to read all of Narnia again with fresh eyes!

[@m.j.piazza7853]

Odd. I’m a huge fan of Lewis, and he also wrote a sci fi/fantasy trilogy known uncreatively as the Space Trilogy. The first book is set on Mars and focuses on masculinity, the second is set on Venus and focuses on femininity, and the last is set on Earth and focuses on the interactions between the two.

[@dray1842]

So am I being gas lighted by the Bee.

[@TheBibleisArt]

Fascinating

[@themarlboromandalorian]

YOU CAN'T HAVE FATHER SHITTING CHRISTMAS IN THE SAME STORY AS A FAWN.

[@Limubi1]

I didn't know this story.

[@mackinbox]

#freethebee

[@humbughumbughumbug]

Cool

[@juneyshu6197]

I love both. Lion resonates in my spirit, tho, I am just a born good guy. Suffered for it, I did, but all good.

[@lai_strength_training]

You realize the lion is not about you right? It's an allegory for the "Lion of Judah". Do some research on C.S. Lewis's beliefs.

[@jumbo4billion]

Never trust anyone who feels the need to tell you they're a good person

[@christopher19894]

Tolkien was just jealous, obviously...

[@bradleyrenfroe2776]

Well, Tolkien was a professor of medieval literature and European mythologies as well as ancient European languages. He just took his profession very seriously. He and Lewis both hated Snow White in 1937.

[@lancewalker2595]

Yeah. That definitely ain't it chief.

[@denisebruggers7082]

I don’t think Tolkien understood enough about the biblical God to appreciate narratives with deep and recurring spiritual truths that stick with the reader into adulthood. An example- that fleeting scene in Voyage of the Dawn Treader where Lucy succumbs to the temptation of using a spell to listen to her friends talk about her has informed my reactions to countless experiences since I read it at 8 years old. I also enjoyed the adventure of LOTR but I can’t think of any surprising life-changing attitude shift sthat ever came of it. It conveyed: be brave, be loyal, don’t give up.

[@kylejacobson9587]

You do know that Tolkien was a devout Christian right? He was one of the most important people in bringing Lewis to faith

[@denisebruggers7082]

You’re right, he was a believer. But it seems like in his writing he doesn’t show the depth of understanding that Lewis does, kind of exemplified by the famous quote of his: “I believe in Christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it but because by it I see everything else.”

[@cineheroes857]

​@@denisebruggers7082tolkien actually made cs lewis become a christian. Dont talk about what you dont understand

[@bradleyrenfroe2776]

Yes they were both devout although different denominations. Tolkien was hardcore Catholic and Lewis was a member of the Church of England.

[@MegaCurtisimo]

Tolkien, a man whose most famous story is basically a re-telling of the antediluvian world being purged of the Nephilim & the practitioners of Luciferian magick. Scenes when people finally figure out Lord of the Rings is basically an elaborate version of Genesis chapters 6-9 & the Enuma Elish.

[@justchilling704]

The difference is that Tolkien made his world applicable.

[@bretthess6376]

Sure, why not. It works.

[@thedillo]

I'm sorry to inform you but I have unsubscribed from your channel due to RUclips's heavy-handed and unfair censorship. This is not due to you or your content in any way.

[@bretthess6376]

Too bad, they delete me all the time. It's unAmerican. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@paradisecityX0]

Narnia is far better than anything from Middle Earth. Aslan is king!

[@eldin8910]

i love narnia, grew up reading the books, but i still love middle earth better

[@bradleyrenfroe2776]

They are both amazing mythologies.

[@deewesthill1213]

I always liked both worlds.

[@bretthess6376]

Nope, not with you on that. Middle Earth is where my heart is. 🌌

[@NeroSparda99]

Dude please serious

[@jumbo4billion]

Tolkien was right

[@drinksoap6827]

No

[@bretthess6376]

Aww, phooey. Narnia is a bit sticky-sweet but it was fun to read when I was a pup. 😁