There is great harm in covering up who you are - in an attempt to appease others - because someone convinced you that honoring your community's prejudices is the only proper way to behave.
I've been through that. I was taught to hate myself, and others. There was one time I was in church, and the sermon was on love. I mentioned it to the guy who gave me a ride home after the service, and I said I really did not understand what the preacher was getting at. Rather than helping me, the other guy put me down and said I was not a christian. I had been baptised 2X and was doing church work on my own dime. Instead of helping me dig out why I felt that way, he said I would never understand and was destined for hell. I don't care what religion you are, or what you believe, that is no way to treat someone else. After he left, I called his wife and told her I would no longer need rides home from church. Now, I was still a believer at the time. It was another 7 years before I abandoned that belief. The next time I saw that guy, before he died, he was very upset with himself. He was very aware that he fit the opposite of the description of 1 John 2:10 "There is none occasion of stumbling in him." Grr, I spend more time with the Bible now than I ever did when I was a believer. This in spite of the fact that I read the Bible cover to cover multiple times before I left the faith. I use a "Strong's Concordance" and a King James family bible to research these before I post an answer. The reason for the family bible is because it's easier for me to read with the type size used. Even so, I still have to put my face about 12 inches away to read it without glasses. Look up the reference I gave. His wife tore him a new one for treating me that way. Just to be clear, it was not ill treatment that drove me away. I figured, if there was anything to it, there should be scientific proof to back up the claims in the bible. I left because I found nothing on any major claim. Young earth creation (no) the flood (no) the exodus (no)
Nah, in the long run if you know them better than they know you, you have an advantage. There is no advantage to telegraphing your intentions or beliefs. There is nothing gained by defeating a fool.
Well, being honest, or asking tough questions like Socrates did, often leads to skeptics losing their jobs, families, etc. Religious cults thrive on group-think, as well as seeing independent thinkers as a subversive threat, because a moral atheist demonstrably disproves the false claim made by preachers that atheists cannot be good / moral people.
Hey, thanks for describing yourself as 'born again atheist'! I just realized it helps me think of myself more positively if I apply it to myself as well. Plus it triggers Americans which is, you know, always a good thing.
You dropped the chains and they helped you get through it and thank whatever is good that we have places like this where we can openly talk to keep us from being psychopaths.
Makes perfect sense to me, you didn't believe a damn thing when you were born, your parents made you a Christian in their own image. Eventually you were born again without the anchor of dogmatic belief.
I’m always surprised by hearing anyone saying “ it’s hard to admit I’m atheist “ Wow. That tells its own story. But I have nothing but respect for any American that publicly tells the truth about their atheism. Let’s hope it encourages more and more to speak the truth about being atheist.
America and Atheism have a troubled past lol Not easy to admit here in the Bible Belt South which is why people say “its hard to admit” May not be the internal struggle you’re speculating about…although for some Im sure you’re spot on….
@@LoneStarPlate thanks for your comment. I’m British so hearing anyone say it’s difficult to admit they are atheist always comes as a real shock to me. I feel for these people. And admire their courage and them not letting the fear of admitting they are atheist stop them from what is effectively a kind of “ coming out of the religious closet “ Cheers mate. Take care 👍👍
Its a Lie, though. Its not Hard to tell Anyone You are an Atheist in America. I've seen People Do it with Ease in Person. And I Live in The Bible Belt. AronRa is not brave. He;s a Coward and a Bully who is Promoting Your Mythology.
@@chriswhitt6618 - The idea that Atheists are not Religious is not Really True. Nor is it true that saying Atheists are Religious means I said Atheism is a Religion. Also, its part of the Modern Holy Religion Of Atheism that Atheists are perscuted. But they also say Christians have the Christian Persecutions Complex. Its Hypocritical. Note; The Term "The Holy Religion Of Atheism" is not Me saying Atheism is a Holy Religion. Or Atheism is a Religion. its based on the term ":he Religion Of Humanity", Created by Auguste Compte, Who also promoted Empiricism, Which is where Secular Humanism came from. Secular Humanism is a Religion, even if its Followers say its not.
I don't bring up religion where I work... But when someone else does, then I have the same right to enter the discussion and let the games begin! Most persons where I work now know better not to do so. Thanks to Aron Ra and others in the community!
And flame out in front of everyone. You lose. Best response is to just smile and nod your head up and down. You know where they stand and they don't know where you stand. Now you have the advantage.
@@MrHardhead2 You don’t lose if you choose to engage in a discussion. You’re actually the winner if you’re the one trying to enlighten others about the fallacies in Religion.
I believe a better method is to show interest and ask questions, instead of telling them why they're wrong straight away. That only creates an instant fight or flight response, and will never lead to any positive results. Ask them what their reasons are to believe what they believe - then inquire and ask more until they have to think about it.
My mom always said she did not see eye to eye with her mother. I now realise my mom's mother was a deist. My dad's mother was a young earth creationist. I became an atheist 3 years ago.
Welcome to the community! But where ever you may live, watch your back. Many will not accept you for that. I know, from experience that there are those who will do what ever they think their scripture calls for them to do to us infidels.
@@valroniclehre193 Man, I didn't know we were serving jury duty. I thought we weren't totally obligated to follow where evidence leads if we don't feel like it. Especially since some evidence CAN be misleading.
@@theboombody Think about what you're saying here. You are favoring a belief despite evidence because... why? You don't have to follow evidence, but where does that leave you?
I'm far more cynical about "The American Dream" than Aron is. George Carlin had it right: They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. He said this pre-Trump.
George carlin 100 percent is not on the same side as trump. If he was still alive he would be blocking people like you from using his content for hatred and bigotry.
Wow that was so profound. I've been struggling after leaving religion. I took the deep dive into every religious modality and have felt depressed and stressed out. This podcast shed some light on truth. Thank you.
That's what happened to me.I was a Christian and actually ordained And I studied and studied and studied and studied the Bible And basically I studied myself right out of the faith.
Ok, so I want to apologize for complaining about your intro and commercials earlier! You gotta keep the show going! Please forgive me! This was one of the best shows I e seen about atheism I’ve seen so far!
@@LoneStarPlate I have never watched your show before but I like Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty. I think I have become a fan of your show for having the guts to have atheists and sceptics like them on. I really respect your courage to voice your atheism on your show considering the culture of your location. I live in Ohio, which has become full of zealots and fanatics while I'm openly gay and atheist. It's not easy, but there are more of us out there then you may think.
@@steveanton763 I understand you. The indoctrination runs very deep. But look at the younger generations with their way of looking things up. No more listening to a dude at the front of a church or a bible school, but open their Smartphone where they have access to the WHOLE world. And look at Northern Europe. But then you need a clear separation between church and state to start with.
It is tragic that teachers are not allowed to teach critical thinking skills. Teachers get fired for even remotely being Socratic towards the status quo in many parts of the US.
"If you talk to an imaginary friend for long enough, he will start talking back" ✔️ instant sub. Great conversation, Patrick 1:03:30 brilliant point 1:08:00
Taking Philosophy in University in the 90s taught me that an atheist is one who has no belief in God. The text book indicates this is from the Philosopher Paul Kurtz on page 20. It also indicates "more militaint" atheists claim no God exists as Aron Ra says Philosophers do. The textbook is Philosophy Paradox and Discovery 4th Edition. - Thomas A. Shipka, Arthur J. Minton I have mostly only encountered the negative definition from apologists in recent years though I have encountered many who call themselves agnostic but use the definition of atheist. My understanding is that agnostic is a statement of knowledge, not belief. I try to have those I discuss amd debate these things with define their terms before I engage because people do define their terms in very different ways. Ask yourself this, if you believe in God but can't define it, is it anymore than a slogan to you?
Interesting factoid: in the contiguous United States Texas doesn’t have the longest drive across the state. I’m talking Louisiana to New Mexico. It takes longer to drive from southern Michigan at the border with Indiana or Ohio to Wisconsin. It can take 14 hours, and that’s on a good day.
@LoneStarPlate loved the content brother. I would love to come on and chat with you and Aron. A lot of these conversations almost feel like “home” to me. It’s hard to explain, but I surely can’t have any of these convos with the lovely people in my current surrounding in life. Sending y’all much love & Light ! Keep on spreading wisdom! 🙏
Even though religion always persecutes and declaims falsehoods so vehemently, it seems to be the real falsehood itself. Atheists may be animated by that same spirit of righteousness against what's plainly false
Good chat. Rough start. Intro left me wondering when things were going to pick up, but that could just be a style or experience thing. Excessive use of the word 'like' and similar filler words. This was my second of your vids I've sat through though so perhaps you've long since corrected that. Ended great though. The dogs were a good high note to finish up on to leave the viewer with the warm fuzzies and feel-goods.
Right off the bat! It's *ARON* haha. Ty for having such a great guest. Aron is one of the horsemen of atheism imo and I admire him tremendously. Met him years ago at "American Atheists" in Cincinnati. He had on a kilt and is 100% unabashedly himself. Stand-up guy.
Im from Alabama and I am die hard athiest. I agree with how Aron Ra defines how and why he feels the way he does. Once you give yourself the opportunity to see just how nonsensical and irrational religion is. You then realize just how scary it is. Especially when you see that we have people running this country who would rather govern the country by irrational means, and trying to change what kids are being taught because you think this world was created by a higher being. And even if there was a higher being that is beyond space and time. It is 1000% neither one of the gods of any of these religions. I would bet my life completely on that fact. I was more of an angry, irritated, evil, lying person when I was a believer. Once I let that go. I became enlightened with truth. And I don't give a damn what anyone thinks about me or what they say. I know that religion WILL fade into the history of human existence. I believe that religion is just something we go through as a species. And eventually as we evolve through time. We will become a unified species because we will finally understand a realize that we are alone on this speck of dust. Its what the religious fear the most. And that is the fact there really is no god. And that dosnet mean our lives have no meaning. Maybe not to an afterlife. But the here and now! No one is saying you should just go out and use drugs and drink, have sex till your infested. No one is saying you have to kill, murder or whatever label we as humans put on something that we already know os wrong because we are a social species. And we want to thrive. It is really sad to see children that believe these things. Do you want the children of the world, growing up to believe in an imagination trick? Cause that is exactly what it is.
"I know that religion WILL fade into the history of human existence" That's what I did believe too by the end of the sixties religion would all but gone Imagine that Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us, only sky Imagine all the people Livin' for today Ah Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion, too Imagine all the people Livin' life in peace You You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world You You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one John Lennon However regardless of which religions It has all gone into the opposite direction Not only that,But it has been taking over by the Extremist Fundamentalists Those who would welcome Armaggedon They have worked their way into all levels of Government
Im sorry Aron but your dad is fucked up for killing dogs at will.That really upsets me that you had to deal with a person like that.Horrifying quite frankly. It is no wonder that you have so much compassion for people and animals.
For Pat's concern with those who cut off friends & family for going MAGA; try spending an afternoon with a regular Fox follower. EVERYTHING will be politicized somehow, everything will be Brandon's fault, and you will be needing earplugs to preserve your hearing. Edit: I'm only speaking from my experience, but I will say my good faith got burned through quick.
Its like this in canada too. People blame everything on our prime minsiter who has none of the dictator powers presidents do. They are just a bunch of whiny snowflakes who dont understand that everything they accuse the left of is something they got caught doing.
I really wanted to achieve dialogue with God. I remember how, in the late stages of my religiousness, some of my thoughts started to seem as if it was God talking to me. I was very aware of the illusion and I was like "crap, it's just my thought sounding like the voice of God" and I prayed on in hopes of actually hearing from him. At that time it didn't occure to me that those who hear God actually hear themselves but think it's God. I knew Christianity was no conart so I had no reason to think that someone would try to dream God up.
There are a lot of religious practices like contemplative mysticism, ritual trance, ecstatic dance, spirit boards, pendulums, hypnogogic induction, and the use of hallucinogens or psychedelics as entheogens that amplify that voice in some way. That doesn't touch on how prevalent other forms of divination were in ancient times that were a lot less direct, either. The Abrahamic traditions think their answered prayers are somehow different from the mystical incantations and divination methods of other religions, but they all use the same fundamental mechanisms.
You didn't bother to learn the name of your guest or what organisation he's a part of, and that was outside of the live part! You had all the time in the world to at least learn to pronounce his name (pronounced like the initialism for "registered nurse", R.N.)!
Well, just to put this out there, Aron and I may not agree on every point, nor it it required. We can have that discussion, and still be friends. That being said, I studied computer logic, and he studied palaeontology, so our point of view is going to be very different. On the other hand, he seems to love little kittens just as much as I do, while my room mate would rather have his dog around than 20+ cats. That being said, I need to feed myself. Not to mention, there are 2 chickens, 2 opossums and a raccoon that come up to eat as well.
Thank you for teaching or telling us how to read the Quran and ideas about talking to other people that live through it or believe in it so I understand more about it That's a good idea thank you
Hear that! Well since Aron is in Dallas and so is our studio, since we moved from Austin, We’ll try to get him in studio for our next interview. I would also like to meet him in person.
I agree with you I try my best to learn as much as I can of the truth that I can but there's a lot of propaganda on both sides but that's here nor there I'm not trying to get political thanks for the talk I appreciate it I feel like I'm learning something you guys are awesome
You don't have to tell anyone anything. Its personal. I never understand the need to tell people about their beliefs. Never comes up when I'm out and about.
Religions are like the discussions and theories about the future plot of a series/film. Everyone tries to guess how the story will turn out to be, but the problem is that those theorists try to write their stories as canon, when only the proper process of discovery through solid scientific inquiries can clear what the plot is
I don’t personally know any that do. Of course, we all have unsubstantiated beliefs; I do my best to minimize them, but I may not be as systematic at it as Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty seem to be.
You are correct both senses are in the same area I don't remember exactly where not trying to get religious with you but yeah you're right and those are good passages I do agree with you Peace and have a great night wherever you two are
i have seen fairies before. when I was a child and i would go to my mothers aunts house I would wake up in the middle of the night and see what looked like a little boy who would pull my blanket. When i woke up in the morning he would not be there and my family would ask me why i can never sleep at my aunts house. I used to be scared of all the porcelain dolls in another aunts house. I was worried her matryoshka dolls would attack me.
The biggest lier of all is the “holly spirit “ this is what keeps believers believing even when presented with the evidence. Because their rationality rests on the saying of the holly spirit which is their own saying and they don’t see why is it that the holly spirit always agree with their way of thinking.
You get a sense of joy from being appreciated, yet you condemn God for wanting to be appreciated and praised by us, when that’s really all we even have to offer him.
And one other thing, God says not to test him, except in the area of finances, he directly challenges you to test him, to give tithing a try and see what happens. And they do and their financial health improves markedly. Many instances of that, including my own financial health story. It’s results like that that you are up against, the experience people have of their life improving when they turn to Jesus. And personal experience is going to trump anything you can come up with because it offers relief that atheism doesn’t.
@@mike-u5y7t I'm not talking about the "nice" part and only in part about the "knowledgeable" part. I'm more referring to "the gold standard." I'm a theist and I've watched lots of atheist personalities on youtube. In my opinion, Aaron Ra is near the bottom of the list when it comes to atheists apologists. I think his only strength is his memory and therefore his ability to list facts. This makes him sound really good when he is debating biological evolution with a Young Earth Creationist, because that battle is really just a battle of evidentiary support and all you need to do is lay out the facts and let them speak for themselves. But I put Aaron in the "bafoon" category. The lead rock that sinks to the bottom, because if you take him away from listing facts and accept intellectual honesty, the ability to reason through abstract thoughts, and defend his worldview he absolutely collapses. All he knows what to do well is lay out the evidences for evolution and then in a witty way make a caricature of God, of theists and their beliefs. I'm afraid that if you think Aaron is a gold standard then you haven't really watched many other atheist videos. Matt Dilluhunty is heads and tales above Aaron Ra. Cosmic Skeptic/Alex O'Connor is heads and tails above Matt Dilluhunty. Tony from "How Creationism Taught Me Science," who focuses on Young Earth Creationists like Aaron does, does a better job then Aaron.
You are free to do brainwashing type chanting all you want. But don’t encourage others. It’s bad. Keep that in religious cult buildings and steer clear.
I'm with Aron with all this.... I've gone to the gatherings and not feel the difference after going.... They are just a bunch of con man, one way or another.... Watched the flat earth stuff too, with the same principle...
I have respect for those who want to and keep an animal as a pet. I, myself do not chose to have a pet. I can't see having to take care of said pet on a daily basis. A child at least grows up.
The Jedi believed that the dark side of the force is inherently discordant, and that its presence disrupts the harmony of the light side of the force. So what they meant by bringing balance to the force was essentially a crusade and an inquisition. Despite the pantheistic concept of the Force and the references to meditation, Star Wars is ultimately more akin to Christian Dualism than Daoism
That was a later interpretation. Lucas made it very clear that in his mind the jedi are right about everything. You might disagree with that idea (so do I) and explain the movies from a different paradigm in consequence, but authorial intent is clear.
@@howlrichard1028 so just like all the hero mythology that he was referencing, the intended plot doesnt make any sense to the claims from the authority
Some of us religious people are caught in a catch 22 That's what I would say about our grandparents your mother his mother and some of us some of the other of us being that said I hope you guys are having a great day night or day wherever this is taking place Peace
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There is great harm in covering up who you are - in an attempt to appease others - because someone convinced you that honoring your community's prejudices is the only proper way to behave.
I've been through that. I was taught to hate myself, and others. There was one time I was in church, and the sermon was on love. I mentioned it to the guy who gave me a ride home after the service, and I said I really did not understand what the preacher was getting at. Rather than helping me, the other guy put me down and said I was not a christian. I had been baptised 2X and was doing church work on my own dime. Instead of helping me dig out why I felt that way, he said I would never understand and was destined for hell. I don't care what religion you are, or what you believe, that is no way to treat someone else. After he left, I called his wife and told her I would no longer need rides home from church. Now, I was still a believer at the time. It was another 7 years before I abandoned that belief. The next time I saw that guy, before he died, he was very upset with himself. He was very aware that he fit the opposite of the description of 1 John 2:10 "There is none occasion of stumbling in him."
Grr, I spend more time with the Bible now than I ever did when I was a believer. This in spite of the fact that I read the Bible cover to cover multiple times before I left the faith. I use a "Strong's Concordance" and a King James family bible to research these before I post an answer. The reason for the family bible is because it's easier for me to read with the type size used. Even so, I still have to put my face about 12 inches away to read it without glasses.
Look up the reference I gave. His wife tore him a new one for treating me that way. Just to be clear, it was not ill treatment that drove me away. I figured, if there was anything to it, there should be scientific proof to back up the claims in the bible. I left because I found nothing on any major claim. Young earth creation (no) the flood (no) the exodus (no)
Praise "Bob"!
@@StarSong936 I'm sorry you were made to feel that way. That's awful!💯💙🤟
Nah, in the long run if you know them better than they know you, you have an advantage. There is no advantage to telegraphing your intentions or beliefs. There is nothing gained by defeating a fool.
Well, being honest, or asking tough questions like Socrates did, often leads to skeptics losing their jobs, families, etc.
Religious cults thrive on group-think, as well as seeing independent thinkers as a subversive threat, because a moral atheist demonstrably disproves the false claim made by preachers that atheists cannot be good / moral people.
I’m a born again atheist thanks to genuine, honest human beings like Aron, Christopher, Sam, Dawkins who broke my indoctrination chains. Thank you!
Hey, thanks for describing yourself as 'born again atheist'! I just realized it helps me think of myself more positively if I apply it to myself as well. Plus it triggers Americans which is, you know, always a good thing.
That's a beautiful way to put it. I am going to use that term I think.
@jakubosiejewski9859
I, as well, am a born-again atheist.
I even have a second bellybutton, though the water has to be really cold! 😅😅😅
You dropped the chains and they helped you get through it and thank whatever is good that we have places like this where we can openly talk to keep us from being psychopaths.
Makes perfect sense to me, you didn't believe a damn thing when you were born, your parents made you a Christian in their own image. Eventually you were born again without the anchor of dogmatic belief.
I’m always surprised by hearing anyone saying “ it’s hard to admit I’m atheist “
Wow. That tells its own story. But I have nothing but respect for any American that publicly tells the truth about their atheism. Let’s hope it encourages more and more to speak the truth about being atheist.
America and Atheism have a troubled past lol Not easy to admit here in the Bible Belt South which is why people say “its hard to admit”
May not be the internal struggle you’re speculating about…although for some Im sure you’re spot on….
@@LoneStarPlate thanks for your comment. I’m British so hearing anyone say it’s difficult to admit they are atheist always comes as a real shock to me. I feel for these people. And admire their courage and them not letting the fear of admitting they are atheist stop them from what is effectively a kind of “ coming out of the religious closet “
Cheers mate. Take care 👍👍
@@chriswhitt6618
Same, from The Netherlands.
Its a Lie, though. Its not Hard to tell Anyone You are an Atheist in America. I've seen People Do it with Ease in Person. And I Live in The Bible Belt. AronRa is not brave. He;s a Coward and a Bully who is Promoting Your Mythology.
@@chriswhitt6618 - The idea that Atheists are not Religious is not Really True. Nor is it true that saying Atheists are Religious means I said Atheism is a Religion. Also, its part of the Modern Holy Religion Of Atheism that Atheists are perscuted. But they also say Christians have the Christian Persecutions Complex. Its Hypocritical.
Note; The Term "The Holy Religion Of Atheism" is not Me saying Atheism is a Holy Religion. Or Atheism is a Religion. its based on the term ":he Religion Of Humanity", Created by Auguste Compte, Who also promoted Empiricism, Which is where Secular Humanism came from. Secular Humanism is a Religion, even if its Followers say its not.
Aron Ra is definitely the Jedi warrior of Atheists.
I really appreciate genetically modified skeptic as well. Brilliant scholars both IMO.
hes an uneducated conman.
Amen!
@@JOHNDAVIS-b6rRamen!
@@tarajoyce3598 Muslim skeptic wiped the floor with him watch that debate.
I don't bring up religion where I work... But when someone else does, then I have the same right to enter the discussion and let the games begin!
Most persons where I work now know better not to do so. Thanks to Aron Ra and others in the community!
And flame out in front of everyone. You lose. Best response is to just smile and nod your head up and down. You know where they stand and they don't know where you stand. Now you have the advantage.
@@MrHardhead2
You don’t lose if you choose to engage in a discussion. You’re actually the winner if you’re the one trying to enlighten others about the fallacies in Religion.
Thanks for watching!
Atheism has no value,. teaches nothing and any values or morals you have are borrowed from religion. Self-worship has no value.
I believe a better method is to show interest and ask questions, instead of telling them why they're wrong straight away.
That only creates an instant fight or flight response, and will never lead to any positive results.
Ask them what their reasons are to believe what they believe - then inquire and ask more until they have to think about it.
My mom always said she did not see eye to eye with her mother. I now realise my mom's mother was a deist. My dad's mother was a young earth creationist. I became an atheist 3 years ago.
Welcome to the community!
But where ever you may live, watch your back. Many will not accept you for that. I know, from experience that there are those who will do what ever they think their scripture calls for them to do to us infidels.
"We have a Santa Claus for grown ups"
Best way to describe what a god is, was, and will be.
Looks like the same character in paintings 😆
What about people who don't believe in an afterlife but believe nature has some kind of intent behind it?
@@theboombody You mean a unified intent? I'd say that lacks evidence.
@@valroniclehre193 Man, I didn't know we were serving jury duty. I thought we weren't totally obligated to follow where evidence leads if we don't feel like it. Especially since some evidence CAN be misleading.
@@theboombody Think about what you're saying here. You are favoring a belief despite evidence because... why?
You don't have to follow evidence, but where does that leave you?
Always blows my mind that admitting to be an atheist' is hard. Here in the UK, no one would raise an eyebrow.
That's so great though that gives me hope for here
Thanks for watching - and for your comment!
They should instead raise their swords. Atheism is a cult.
idk, soon it may not be so easy. Inshallah, you will know to submit.
A good conversation. While I'm not a dog person myself, the puppy bonding at the end was the icing on the cake. :D
I am definitely a dog person, but a cat won't tell the police where you hide your drugs. 😁
😂
Aron has at least one cat, too.
@@eddieclark9802 - Is that your dog or the K-9?
@@eddieclark9802 neither will your dog, cause 1- it's not trained for that and 2- it's your dog, not the cop's dog.
To avoid confusion, I say I'm a non-believer.
I laughed when the dog barked. Sounded like he was agreeing with Aron's point😉
Great comment - thanks for watching!
I'm far more cynical about "The American Dream" than Aron is. George Carlin had it right: They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. He said this pre-Trump.
George carlin 100 percent is not on the same side as trump. If he was still alive he would be blocking people like you from using his content for hatred and bigotry.
@@gymhayes4613
Bollocks
That’s fine, I don’t believe in Atheism..
@@LordOfThePancakes thats an inherently idiotic thing to say.
Wow that was so profound. I've been struggling after leaving religion. I took the deep dive into every religious modality and have felt depressed and stressed out. This podcast shed some light on truth. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed and found it helpful - thanks for watching!
Wow. I relate to being deeply embarrassed about my past profound religious experiences that I now know were all in my mind.
Thank you for watching!
That's what happened to me.I was a Christian and actually ordained And I studied and studied and studied and studied the Bible And basically I studied myself right out of the faith.
Thanks for your comment!
Ok, so I want to apologize for complaining about your intro and commercials earlier! You gotta keep the show going! Please forgive me! This was one of the best shows I e seen about atheism I’ve seen so far!
Next atheist guest could be any of the presenters of _The Atheist Experience_ which is based in Austin. My preference would be Matt Dillahunty.
We are working on getting Matt for our upcoming season in the new year. Stay subscribed and look out for that interview!
@@LoneStarPlate Exactly when will depend on how quickly he recovers from his recent heart surgery.
@@LoneStarPlate I have never watched your show before but I like Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty. I think I have become a fan of your show for having the guts to have atheists and sceptics like them on. I really respect your courage to voice your atheism on your show considering the culture of your location. I live in Ohio, which has become full of zealots and fanatics while I'm openly gay and atheist. It's not easy, but there are more of us out there then you may think.
@@LoneStarPlate Another great speaker and atheist activist is Seth Andrews. Would be another nice addition to the podcast.
Nice conversation. 👍🏽
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As the host of the show...Thank you! 🙏🏼
"Austistic mammal" 😂😂😂
this was a great podcast. Thanks for posting ❤
Aron is the man!
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What a great show….Aron Ra is the man, and the host did a fantastic job…so honest.
Show this in any school in the US and religion will dissolve very quickly.
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No it wouldn't. You can't use logic and reason against faith and ignorance.
@@steveanton763 I understand you.
The indoctrination runs very deep. But look at the younger generations with their way of looking things up. No more listening to a dude at the front of a church or a bible school, but open their Smartphone where they have access to the WHOLE world.
And look at Northern Europe. But then you need a clear separation between church and state to start with.
It is tragic that teachers are not allowed to teach critical thinking skills. Teachers get fired for even remotely being Socratic towards the status quo in many parts of the US.
"If you talk to an imaginary friend for long enough, he will start talking back" ✔️
instant sub. Great conversation, Patrick
1:03:30 brilliant point
1:08:00
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Why is it so hard for people to pronounce his name right? Ugh upsetting
Yeah...my bad. Im the host. That was completely my fault...
You’re right and unacceptable on my part...will do better!!
@@Charmstrong lol I'm just making too big of a deal about it haha not trying to be rude. I've just heard his name mispronounced countless times
@@DA-of5yj lol! Nah; I appreciate the heads up. I should at the very least get my guests name right 😂
@@DA-of5yjbecause his name is weird and looks like the name aaron.
Very profound statements here. These and more should be in printable format for beginners in our journey to emancipation.
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at work i would always tell people i was buddhist. they never knew much about it and i didn't have to deal with their opprobrium.
So, lying is how you help extinguish pervasive superstition and an overt reliance on faith as an epistemology? Bravo!!!!!!!
@@mrsnakesmrnot8499 it's best not to tick off coworkers. the last thing anyone needs at work is strife.
I love volcans. They operate their lives based on logic and reason.Spock is a real hero of mine!
Great chat!⚘💯💙
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"We can throw rocks... and there's FIFTY of us."
Really love that.
I’m an atheist and greetings from North Carolina.
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Taking Philosophy in University in the 90s taught me that an atheist is one who has no belief in God. The text book indicates this is from the Philosopher Paul Kurtz on page 20. It also indicates "more militaint" atheists claim no God exists as Aron Ra says Philosophers do.
The textbook is Philosophy Paradox and Discovery 4th Edition. - Thomas A. Shipka, Arthur J. Minton
I have mostly only encountered the negative definition from apologists in recent years though I have encountered many who call themselves agnostic but use the definition of atheist. My understanding is that agnostic is a statement of knowledge, not belief.
I try to have those I discuss amd debate these things with define their terms before I engage because people do define their terms in very different ways. Ask yourself this, if you believe in God but can't define it, is it anymore than a slogan to you?
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Interesting factoid: in the contiguous United States Texas doesn’t have the longest drive across the state. I’m talking Louisiana to New Mexico. It takes longer to drive from southern Michigan at the border with Indiana or Ohio to Wisconsin. It can take 14 hours, and that’s on a good day.
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@LoneStarPlate loved the content brother. I would love to come on and chat with you and Aron. A lot of these conversations almost feel like “home” to me. It’s hard to explain, but I surely can’t have any of these convos with the lovely people in my current surrounding in life.
Sending y’all much love & Light !
Keep on spreading wisdom! 🙏
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@@LoneStarPlate Thank you as well brother💪🏽
Even though religion always persecutes and declaims falsehoods so vehemently, it seems to be the real falsehood itself. Atheists may be animated by that same spirit of righteousness against what's plainly false
Good chat. Rough start. Intro left me wondering when things were going to pick up, but that could just be a style or experience thing. Excessive use of the word 'like' and similar filler words. This was my second of your vids I've sat through though so perhaps you've long since corrected that. Ended great though. The dogs were a good high note to finish up on to leave the viewer with the warm fuzzies and feel-goods.
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The problem with modern atheism is that it was captured by the left and now the term carries all types of ridiculous connotations and assumptions
Right off the bat! It's *ARON* haha.
Ty for having such a great guest. Aron is one of the horsemen of atheism imo and I admire him tremendously. Met him years ago at "American Atheists" in Cincinnati. He had on a kilt and is 100% unabashedly himself. Stand-up guy.
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Thank you for such a wonderful program.. From India🇮🇳
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Im from Alabama and I am die hard athiest. I agree with how Aron Ra defines how and why he feels the way he does. Once you give yourself the opportunity to see just how nonsensical and irrational religion is. You then realize just how scary it is. Especially when you see that we have people running this country who would rather govern the country by irrational means, and trying to change what kids are being taught because you think this world was created by a higher being. And even if there was a higher being that is beyond space and time. It is 1000% neither one of the gods of any of these religions. I would bet my life completely on that fact. I was more of an angry, irritated, evil, lying person when I was a believer. Once I let that go. I became enlightened with truth. And I don't give a damn what anyone thinks about me or what they say. I know that religion WILL fade into the history of human existence. I believe that religion is just something we go through as a species. And eventually as we evolve through time. We will become a unified species because we will finally understand a realize that we are alone on this speck of dust. Its what the religious fear the most. And that is the fact there really is no god. And that dosnet mean our lives have no meaning. Maybe not to an afterlife. But the here and now! No one is saying you should just go out and use drugs and drink, have sex till your infested. No one is saying you have to kill, murder or whatever label we as humans put on something that we already know os wrong because we are a social species. And we want to thrive. It is really sad to see children that believe these things. Do you want the children of the world, growing up to believe in an imagination trick? Cause that is exactly what it is.
"I know that religion WILL fade into the history of human existence"
That's what I did believe too
by the end of the sixties religion would all but gone
Imagine that
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
John Lennon
However regardless of which religions
It has all gone into the opposite direction
Not only that,But it has been taking over by the Extremist Fundamentalists
Those who would welcome Armaggedon
They have worked their way into all levels of Government
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Amen!
Im sorry Aron but your dad is fucked up for killing dogs at will.That really upsets me that you had to deal with a person like that.Horrifying quite frankly.
It is no wonder that you have so much compassion for people and animals.
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Salutări din România 💙💛❤️
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After much debating, I once got a Christian fundamentalist to admit that he'd believe cows could fly if the Bible claimed they could.
Im mostly a fan of Aron Ra but this seems like a cool show so I'm leaving a comment to help with the algorithm
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For Pat's concern with those who cut off friends & family for going MAGA; try spending an afternoon with a regular Fox follower. EVERYTHING will be politicized somehow, everything will be Brandon's fault, and you will be needing earplugs to preserve your hearing. Edit: I'm only speaking from my experience, but I will say my good faith got burned through quick.
Its like this in canada too. People blame everything on our prime minsiter who has none of the dictator powers presidents do. They are just a bunch of whiny snowflakes who dont understand that everything they accuse the left of is something they got caught doing.
I really wanted to achieve dialogue with God. I remember how, in the late stages of my religiousness, some of my thoughts started to seem as if it was God talking to me. I was very aware of the illusion and I was like "crap, it's just my thought sounding like the voice of God" and I prayed on in hopes of actually hearing from him. At that time it didn't occure to me that those who hear God actually hear themselves but think it's God. I knew Christianity was no conart so I had no reason to think that someone would try to dream God up.
There are a lot of religious practices like contemplative mysticism, ritual trance, ecstatic dance, spirit boards, pendulums, hypnogogic induction, and the use of hallucinogens or psychedelics as entheogens that amplify that voice in some way. That doesn't touch on how prevalent other forms of divination were in ancient times that were a lot less direct, either. The Abrahamic traditions think their answered prayers are somehow different from the mystical incantations and divination methods of other religions, but they all use the same fundamental mechanisms.
Greetings from Indonesia! I'm a fan of him..
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I feel most of if not all of what Aron ra feels, I just can’t articulate it like him, I’m not good at speaking like him
You didn't bother to learn the name of your guest or what organisation he's a part of, and that was outside of the live part! You had all the time in the world to at least learn to pronounce his name (pronounced like the initialism for "registered nurse", R.N.)!
Well, just to put this out there, Aron and I may not agree on every point, nor it it required. We can have that discussion, and still be friends. That being said, I studied computer logic, and he studied palaeontology, so our point of view is going to be very different. On the other hand, he seems to love little kittens just as much as I do, while my room mate would rather have his dog around than 20+ cats. That being said, I need to feed myself. Not to mention, there are 2 chickens, 2 opossums and a raccoon that come up to eat as well.
I’m an athiest with a fundamentalist family .
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Is nobody talking about LSP looking like a little skinnier version of Colin Farrell? Handsome dude. 😊
Thank you for teaching or telling us how to read the Quran and ideas about talking to other people that live through it or believe in it so I understand more about it That's a good idea thank you
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13:00 wow, poor guy, Aron went all out from the get go
Someone else may have said this already but it's RN, not Arron. Still, if you say that in all innocence, he won't take offence.
Absolutely, and the next time i had him on, i apologized profusely. You’re absolutely right.
@@LoneStarPlate I did get to talk to him and Seth Andrews once during a live stream call in show. Makes me wish I could meet them in person.
Hear that! Well since Aron is in Dallas and so is our studio, since we moved from Austin, We’ll try to get him in studio for our next interview. I would also like to meet him in person.
I would love to see Aron Ra as a Jedi Master and one of the members of Luke's New Jedi Counsel. (Original Expanded Universe version)
I agree with you I try my best to learn as much as I can of the truth that I can but there's a lot of propaganda on both sides but that's here nor there I'm not trying to get political thanks for the talk I appreciate it I feel like I'm learning something you guys are awesome
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You don't have to tell anyone anything. Its personal. I never understand the need to tell people about their beliefs. Never comes up when I'm out and about.
Religions are like the discussions and theories about the future plot of a series/film. Everyone tries to guess how the story will turn out to be, but the problem is that those theorists try to write their stories as canon, when only the proper process of discovery through solid scientific inquiries can clear what the plot is
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Aron Rocks!
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I actually already knew pumkins are fruit as they have seeds
Honestly, who can listen to this and not instantly wake up to their indoctrination?
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Good podcast 👏
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A need to be worshipped is such a human quality. A childish and self centered quality
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I normally don't talk on planes, but I would fly around the world and the convo wouldn't be long enough w Aron. He might not feel the same though.
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Mispronunciation of his name is a terrible way to start the episode
Great Discussion.
Thank you! That’s all we’re aiming for. 🤟
The dyslexic agnostic insomniac stays awake at night wondering if there is a dog😂
GOP Jesus? Was Aron referring to "The Alt-Apostle" by Darkmatter2525?
Is it any wonder that 'Dog' is the opposite of 'god' and is real and unconditionally loving and present? 🐕🐶💚
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Not all atheists have spirituality.
I don’t personally know any that do.
Of course, we all have unsubstantiated beliefs; I do my best to minimize them, but I may not be as systematic at it as Aron Ra and Matt Dillahunty seem to be.
You are correct both senses are in the same area I don't remember exactly where not trying to get religious with you but yeah you're right and those are good passages I do agree with you Peace and have a great night wherever you two are
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Aron Ra is my atheist metal vampire god
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My god is not the author of confusion.
Wish Aron Ra would take on the AA religious Bull especially their Joe and Charlie tapes. Thankfully they have a few Atheist but very few.
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Who can I pitch an amazing atheist movie to? Need screen writters and producers.
is a dachshund/terrier mix a derriere?
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Aron is a compassionate man with brains.^
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I know I made him that way.
7:30 to skip to the good stuff.
Wish Aaron Ra would debate Davide Vose !
1:04:00 they took over Dearborn, Mi.
i have seen fairies before. when I was a child and i would go to my mothers aunts house I would wake up in the middle of the night and see what looked like a little boy who would pull my blanket. When i woke up in the morning he would not be there and my family would ask me why i can never sleep at my aunts house. I used to be scared of all the porcelain dolls in another aunts house. I was worried her matryoshka dolls would attack me.
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In general, I'm an agnostic, but I'm an atheist when it comes to the God of the Bible, Allah, Yahweh, Zeus, Romulus, Osiris, or other man-made gods.
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So, in general, you don't know anything, not even your own name?
Wow...
i lost my belief in any gods when i realized i was better than them. i'd never punish people for being who they are.
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The biggest lier of all is the “holly spirit “ this is what keeps believers believing even when presented with the evidence. Because their rationality rests on the saying of the holly spirit which is their own saying and they don’t see why is it that the holly spirit always agree with their way of thinking.
Good point
Lol I can't believe he interviewed Aron and pronounced his name wrong
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You get a sense of joy from being appreciated, yet you condemn God for wanting to be appreciated and praised by us, when that’s really all we even have to offer him.
Yeah im with aron
4:50 Château de Goulaine in France has been in continuous operation since the 12th century. Tomatoes are also fruit.
My girlfriend is also Mexican, and she's a Catholic. Or, so she says. But she's actually an Atheist like me. She knows it's all bollocks 😁
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And one other thing, God says not to test him, except in the area of finances, he directly challenges you to test him, to give tithing a try and see what happens. And they do and their financial health improves markedly. Many instances of that, including my own financial health story. It’s results like that that you are up against, the experience people have of their life improving when they turn to Jesus. And personal experience is going to trump anything you can come up with because it offers relief that atheism doesn’t.
Ironically the cure for heroin is good heroine
Love Mr Ra. Respect to my fellow apes.
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Aron is the gold standard for atheists. He's just a nice guy and very knowledgable.
Thank you for your comments, and your support
@@LoneStarPlate Your welcome. Hope to see more videos.
I can't imagine that you mean this. This has got to be a troll. lol.
@@blusheep2 I have spoken with him. I think you are confused as to where you are because your comment makes no sense.
@@mike-u5y7t I'm not talking about the "nice" part and only in part about the "knowledgeable" part. I'm more referring to "the gold standard."
I'm a theist and I've watched lots of atheist personalities on youtube. In my opinion, Aaron Ra is near the bottom of the list when it comes to atheists apologists. I think his only strength is his memory and therefore his ability to list facts. This makes him sound really good when he is debating biological evolution with a Young Earth Creationist, because that battle is really just a battle of evidentiary support and all you need to do is lay out the facts and let them speak for themselves.
But I put Aaron in the "bafoon" category. The lead rock that sinks to the bottom, because if you take him away from listing facts and accept intellectual honesty, the ability to reason through abstract thoughts, and defend his worldview he absolutely collapses. All he knows what to do well is lay out the evidences for evolution and then in a witty way make a caricature of God, of theists and their beliefs.
I'm afraid that if you think Aaron is a gold standard then you haven't really watched many other atheist videos. Matt Dilluhunty is heads and tales above Aaron Ra. Cosmic Skeptic/Alex O'Connor is heads and tails above Matt Dilluhunty. Tony from "How Creationism Taught Me Science," who focuses on Young Earth Creationists like Aaron does, does a better job then Aaron.
Repeat after Aron, all together now: I am a free thinker. I am a free thinker! I don’t believe in free will. Together: I don’t believe in free will!
You are free to do brainwashing type chanting all you want. But don’t encourage others. It’s bad. Keep that in religious cult buildings and steer clear.
Excellent discussion.👍
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I'm with Aron with all this.... I've gone to the gatherings and not feel the difference after going.... They are just a bunch of con man, one way or another.... Watched the flat earth stuff too, with the same principle...
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I have respect for those who want to and keep an animal as a pet. I, myself do not chose to have a pet. I can't see having to take care of said pet on a daily basis. A child at least grows up.
plenty of religion on the left aswell. I disagree with Aron on that
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The "jedi" weren't exactly the good guys. the theme was to to bring balance to the force, not to destroy the dark side
The Jedi believed that the dark side of the force is inherently discordant, and that its presence disrupts the harmony of the light side of the force. So what they meant by bringing balance to the force was essentially a crusade and an inquisition. Despite the pantheistic concept of the Force and the references to meditation, Star Wars is ultimately more akin to Christian Dualism than Daoism
That was a later interpretation. Lucas made it very clear that in his mind the jedi are right about everything.
You might disagree with that idea (so do I) and explain the movies from a different paradigm in consequence, but authorial intent is clear.
@@howlrichard1028 so just like all the hero mythology that he was referencing, the intended plot doesnt make any sense to the claims from the authority
Some of us religious people are caught in a catch 22 That's what I would say about our grandparents your mother his mother and some of us some of the other of us being that said I hope you guys are having a great day night or day wherever this is taking place Peace
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How does he see Christianity as left? That may be a thing about politics I don’t know.