The 40K Core Rules Updates - NERFS to Surge Moves + Secret Missions?

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @desecrationfly
    @desecrationfly 4 дня назад +274

    This is just a joke at this point, the core book should just be a pdf that they can update Warhammer community. The Warhammer app with the rules is clunky AF but relatively handy. Just give us the complete pdf to print out!

    • @dmeep
      @dmeep 4 дня назад +2

      I do belive the offer the basic rules as a pdf on their website or atleast used to pre-app but it was hard to find and didnt have any art or lore. happy hunting on their atrocity of a website

    • @davetorres1893
      @davetorres1893 4 дня назад +5

      Honestly, better this, than the past with no changes and having to deal with it. They're at least trying, and I'm sure whomever they let out of the closet to actually edit rules for better intentions, isn't in charge of the archaic factors that cause the codex drip

    • @messaroundhandleit
      @messaroundhandleit 4 дня назад +5

      I've been saying this forever now, but they love selling overpriced books that are out of date, day of release, and they don't like updating the app.

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 4 дня назад +1

      Good news! You can do this and have been able to for the entirety of 10th Edition.
      It's on the Warhammer community web site in the downloads section.
      YT doesn't allow link posting but it's easy enough to find. The site was recently updated too.

    • @HelmandTemplar
      @HelmandTemplar 4 дня назад +1

      Couldn’t agree more the core rule book is an absolute waste of hard earned cash. I would much rather they just release a Lore book for the new season full of art and lore. Then release the rules digitally that can be amended and updated as and when.

  • @Hraefen
    @Hraefen 4 дня назад +81

    I'll say it again, if they werent obsessed with the 3 year cycle theyd have time to release a complete game, they've had 38 years and 10 editions to get it right.

    • @troublemaker9899
      @troublemaker9899 4 дня назад +2

      That would only matter if we were still using the same base ruleset as they were in 2nd Edition. As it stands, every few editions the entire ruleset gets overhauled, and we essentially begin playing a new game altogether.

    • @Hraefen
      @Hraefen 4 дня назад +8

      @troublemaker9899
      I've been playing since rogue trader, so I understand the huge shift in the game, my point is they've got the experience to release a finished product but choose to release an unfinished product every 3 years, it means the people who's codex came out last are usually the ones who loose out most.

    • @hippiecheapskate
      @hippiecheapskate 4 дня назад +1

      @@Hraefen that's only if they care about having a single release with complete rules. The churn and the continual incremental additions keep people glued to their channels and involved in the game. It psychologically keeps people's attention. A one and done approach allows people to drop it and forget about it.

    • @Hraefen
      @Hraefen 4 дня назад +5

      @hippiecheapskate
      I do understand the logic behind it (as much as I dislike o
      It) but my point is GWs core rules should be right from the start, incrementally release army books and campaign packs to create a buzz, but get the points and core rules right from the start rather than releasing expensive rule books that are as much use as a doorstop. I actually quite like 10th edition tbh just fed up of constant rule ammendments and points changes, a company this size, and with a product this expensive, it should be right pretty much first time.

    • @thugbrian1
      @thugbrian1 4 дня назад +2

      Gotta sell them rule books to impress the shareholders

  • @CatroiOz
    @CatroiOz 4 дня назад +77

    GW Saw play on tabletop's insane blood angels Vs World Eaters game and with the nail biting ending worthy of a movie and said "nah nah nah we can't have cool stuff like that ! Remove secret missions from turn 5 !!"

    • @dyciefisk2535
      @dyciefisk2535 4 дня назад +14

      No, it's no primary scoring turn 5 if you took a secret mission.
      You know, that thing that is capped to 20 points when you take a secret mission anyway.

    • @luckilyduckily
      @luckilyduckily 4 дня назад +5

      no, they saw the many real tournament games swinging on a dime because of secret missions

  • @kagglerock8115
    @kagglerock8115 4 дня назад +116

    Guess tyranid endless swarm is the ending swarm now with this additional nerf to surge

    • @mattyorshin
      @mattyorshin 4 дня назад +7

      Hurts carnifexes a bit also

    • @AaronRoss-rr8qt
      @AaronRoss-rr8qt 4 дня назад +1

      At least they got a points drop ​@@mattyorshin

    • @keyanklupacs6333
      @keyanklupacs6333 4 дня назад +6

      Gw loves to pretend they don't absolutely HATE horde players.

    • @MarlboroFed
      @MarlboroFed 4 дня назад +6

      @@keyanklupacs6333which is crazy considering they pay so much more money because all of those extra models needed.

  • @siegespartan9669
    @siegespartan9669 2 дня назад +3

    Wanna know the best part about these rules updates?
    The fact I can ignore them when I play against my friends in a casual setting :)

  • @mentok1
    @mentok1 4 дня назад +28

    Surge move hurts a little as a World Eaters player, but I'm home they will update the Blood Angels Death Company Dreadnought Surge Move to allow it to enter Engagement Range with an enemy.

    • @boredmagala5701
      @boredmagala5701 4 дня назад

      Wait it can’t enter engagement with its surge?!

    • @mentok1
      @mentok1 4 дня назад

      @boredmagala5701 Not as written. Each other Surge ability calls it out specifically that the unit can move to within Engagement range but that sentence is missing from the DC Dread.

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 8 часов назад

      ​@@mentok1it's not supposed to go into engagement range is why, the same is true for black templars.

  • @primarisgainssbbg3038
    @primarisgainssbbg3038 4 дня назад +16

    Surge move being powerful? I always thought it was risky as someone who had a good balance of shooting and assault would just take advantage as the gap for charges would close due to how one was positioned on the board.

    • @aaronnunavabizniz199
      @aaronnunavabizniz199 4 дня назад +2

      You can surge into combat. That lets you attack first and avoid getting shot more.

    • @primarisgainssbbg3038
      @primarisgainssbbg3038 4 дня назад

      @aaronnunavabizniz199 true, but that also means that you can manipulate the surge rushing models into a weak unit to hold them down. Either way, what is done is done.

  • @bianchin20
    @bianchin20 4 дня назад +30

    I know it's popular to wail and gnash your teeth in the comments section about how frequently the rules get updated, but as someone who plays regularly these updates are great at helping keep one Faction from becoming too dominant.
    They're not so great at helping struggling factions...but that's another story.

    • @korniestpatch
      @korniestpatch 4 дня назад +3

      I maybe play the game once a month. Everytime I drive the 40km to get to the store the rules have changed.

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 дня назад +1

      I wouldn't mind changes to be 1-2 months like they are if they were about balance and not just about selling more plastic to meta chasers!

  • @keyanklupacs6333
    @keyanklupacs6333 4 дня назад +17

    4:10 Wow so they nerfed accursed cultists + dark commune combo 30 points and nerfed the datasheet ability. After changing the ability from the index! Brilliant why did they bother printing the cultist detachment if they were just going to gut the two keystone units in it! And they took away cultist firearms!

    • @AaronFrederick843
      @AaronFrederick843 4 дня назад +3

      it's because they don't playtest, or atleast the amount they do isn't adequate to see all the things they don't want to pop up before they release.

    • @deanthomas2561
      @deanthomas2561 4 дня назад +2

      Yeah, seems a little harsh for a detachment that the average player struggles with

    • @Internetbutthurt
      @Internetbutthurt 4 дня назад

      Its pretty funny given most CSM lists that did any good were reliant on these units. We might see CSM drop into the 30% range now.

    • @swheen
      @swheen 3 дня назад

      Pkease keep in mind, it was to sell models.

    • @thomassierp5583
      @thomassierp5583 2 дня назад

      Because it was the only detachment that was cracking above 80% win rate (small player group). If it wasn't for the egregious model count, more would have done it. Mordian glory did a good video looking at the meta rate of wins, and just how fucking ridiculous it was. It may smart a bit, but it was objectively absolutely necessary. 🙂

  • @AaronFrederick843
    @AaronFrederick843 4 дня назад +14

    so wait.
    Damage can't be reduced to zero, unless it gets reduced to special zero?

    • @aaronnunavabizniz199
      @aaronnunavabizniz199 4 дня назад +3

      Yes.

    • @tinker1945
      @tinker1945 4 дня назад +9

      If you have an ability that reduces by 1, it can't reduce down to 0. But some units have abilities that can just cancel out an attack by making damage 0. So this just rules what happens if both apply at the same time.

  • @D4RK_FL4M3
    @D4RK_FL4M3 4 дня назад +45

    Im glad they update rules regularly to be honest.

  • @ChimneyJuice
    @ChimneyJuice 4 дня назад +7

    And they wonder why everyone prefers Wahapedia.

  • @merica6502
    @merica6502 4 дня назад +9

    They only have to do this because tourney players cant behave

  • @benbaxter1047
    @benbaxter1047 3 дня назад

    I found this video useful due the rules clarifications. I was confused about alot of these rules and did not know about others. 😊

  • @Tzar-TZ
    @Tzar-TZ 4 дня назад +78

    ngl man, im so sick of updates. at first it sounded good but man is it a headache keeping track of them

    • @alecatnight1540
      @alecatnight1540 4 дня назад +6

      Imagine when you had to buy the books for it

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv 4 дня назад

      ​@alecatnight1540 why? We still had to go to the web site and print out rules updates. Now the only difference is we didn't need to buy the core rules.

    • @mattyorshin
      @mattyorshin 4 дня назад +6

      Why I use wahapedia

    • @Unknown-qj9sm
      @Unknown-qj9sm 4 дня назад +5

      Nah it’s fine, this is the kind of edgecase thing people have to look up and they just made the answers more clear here. I would rather have this than radio silence for 3 months at a time and an out of touch balance pass that nerfs bad armies and buffs good ones.

    • @doctor8bricks
      @doctor8bricks 4 дня назад +2

      Could've simply saved things like the movement/pivot changes for 11th edition, and given us an extra 3 or so years with an otherwise solid ruleset. I feel like they'll now have to make sweeping changes (for the sake of change) in just a couple of years time in order to justify a whole new edition.

  • @vitev009
    @vitev009 4 дня назад +2

    If you don't do a secret mission, you are allowed to do primary on turn 5 still, correct?

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +3

      It only affects those who have the secret mission. If you have a secret mission and fail to achieve it, that doesn't mean you get to score primary instead on turn 5. But if you don't have the secret mission (winning in points as of turn 3), you score primary normally on turn 5.
      Hope that helps

  • @Ghislain82
    @Ghislain82 4 дня назад +5

    I really feel that updating CORE rules is something that should be done between editions. Not several times over, right in the middle of the edition 🫤

  • @Nipa96M
    @Nipa96M 4 дня назад

    Regarding the last few rules, do we know if the whole unit is wiped with same attacks, do the fight on death with the character attached and if yes what if they die from different unit's attacks. I would say no, but the last rules made me question myself.

  • @Tzar-TZ
    @Tzar-TZ 4 дня назад +14

    i feel like these wide reaching ability updates should really show GW that they didnt consolidate rules into the core book enough

  • @balial1389
    @balial1389 4 дня назад

    Looking for some clarity from anyone regarding surge move once per phase. The surge move changes states "unless otherwise stated the following restrictions apply..." The Blood Surge rule for Berzerkers specifically states "each time the enemy unit is selected to shoot,..." Wouldn't this count as being "otherwise stated" as the rule for Blood Surge specifies "each time"?

  • @brettmal5298
    @brettmal5298 4 дня назад +16

    Auspex coke dealer is buying a new boat after this mad video rush of the last few days

  • @adammorrow5981
    @adammorrow5981 2 дня назад

    I would like to have actual online rules. GW can save printing costs by letting us just buy access. $15-$20 for no paper saves trees, time, and an easy fix for rules adjusting

  • @Azakamak2401
    @Azakamak2401 4 дня назад +4

    So, in the update article, GW said "Orks and Genestealer Cults have been struggling a little since the release of the Chapter Approved: Pariah Nexus Mission Pack, so we have also made a few adjustments there to give them more options," but I'm not seeing anything that really helps them at all. Again, the points decreases are nice, but I'm not seeing any other real changes that could actually help them unless I'm just missing something.

    • @aaronnunavabizniz199
      @aaronnunavabizniz199 4 дня назад +3

      You can't gain primary points in later turns if you take a secret mission. That means you have to move out and fight them. Normally you could gain 30+ points on turn 5 by playing safe.

    • @voltix54
      @voltix54 4 дня назад

      they said theyd do rules changes at the beginning of next year thats when cult ambush and others will be changed

  • @JonathanCrane82
    @JonathanCrane82 4 дня назад

    Would be nice if the app would update to reflect all of this since I'm sure lots of folks need to rebuild and reorder now. Too bad the website sale supply stock is so low.

  • @Deathgaming112
    @Deathgaming112 4 дня назад

    13:30 or the strats that last till end of game like if you kill a harvester unit

  • @Nate-uz8ih
    @Nate-uz8ih 4 дня назад +1

    Sly Marbo is exempt from this? His is slightly different. Is that correct?

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад

      No, his ability is also an out-of-phase move based on a trigger, so I don’t think he is exempt. But the only effect would be the part about being unable while battleshocked, everything else is already the case for him (only once and not if already engaged).

  • @AMGamingOnline
    @AMGamingOnline 4 дня назад +14

    Little hack for all who are pissed about the amount of rules updates. What I did to help with the mass amount of rules is print them out, cut out the new rule and glue it to plain paper, and use very little flat magnets to secure it in the book orr my friend uses a cork board and pins them up on it for a reminder 😅 I had someone else show me they glued the cutouts into the rulebook

    • @geometry_quiz
      @geometry_quiz 4 дня назад +8

      if you actually do this it is hilarious.

    • @desecrationfly
      @desecrationfly 4 дня назад +10

      I use my core book as a prop up for my wonky table

    • @mattyorshin
      @mattyorshin 4 дня назад +3

      I just use wahapedia since he organized things

    • @PapaBradford
      @PapaBradford 4 дня назад +3

      Getting into scrapbooking so we can keep up with our tabletop hobbies 😂

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 дня назад +1

      This is very funny.... look GW, look you make people do!

  • @MythicSton3
    @MythicSton3 4 дня назад

    thank you so much for doing these vid you areawesome and make it so i dont gotta read super indepth right away for all these new updates

  • @ominousowlman7504
    @ominousowlman7504 4 дня назад +1

    Right as my carnifex go down in points they can't surge across the battle field

    • @BreadTeleporter1968
      @BreadTeleporter1968 4 дня назад +1

      Pick up a Tyrannofex that things shooting power for its points is HORRIFYING (my friend has one and it’s honestly scary to see it on the field)

    • @ominousowlman7504
      @ominousowlman7504 3 дня назад

      @@BreadTeleporter1968 have one looking for a second brother

  • @korniestpatch
    @korniestpatch 4 дня назад +4

    This is why I dont buy core rules anymore. I did in 7th, I did with 8th, then I stopped. You can find the rules online anyway.

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 3 дня назад

      @@korniestpatch Correct. They're on GW's community site right now.

  • @MrUdarr
    @MrUdarr 4 дня назад

    does anyone know if the NEW Death Company Dreadnought from BA can move with his Surge move into engagement range? cause it does not mention it in the Ability like on the Khorne Berzerkers but it is still a Surge move not a normal move?

  • @goldenFox420
    @goldenFox420 4 дня назад +4

    Shame they couldn't rules right the first time, I thought this was supposed to be premium company. Then again makes you wonder why all the codexs weren't ready for the 10th edition. Does each new edition take their writing team by surprise? Did they forget how to make table top games?

  • @AverageCalamities
    @AverageCalamities 4 дня назад

    Are the Accursed Cultists affected by the Surge Move changes? Their data sheet specifically calls it a "Horde Move". Either they forgot to errata that or it's called something different for a reason...

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +3

      Yes, they are. The ruling isn't for specifically things called "Surge", but for 'Surge' abilities, which is defined as an ability that allows you to make an out-of-phase move, when a certain trigger occurs

    • @AverageCalamities
      @AverageCalamities 4 дня назад +1

      @@CaMooflaged Right on. Would be lovely to get some consistency lol

    • @makuta294
      @makuta294 4 дня назад

      @@CaMooflaged Jumping onto this but would the termigaunts skulking horrors ability be class as a surge move or since the gaunts would make a normal move and not any other kind of move, it isn't a surge move. Mainly asking the classification if i can use the ability while battleshocked or not.

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +2

      @makuta294 it's still an "out-of-phase move, when a certain trigger occurs". So would class as a 'Surge' move by how they defined it

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад

      @@makuta294If it’s out-of-phase and has a trigger, then it’s a surge move (those two conditions are mentioned explicitly). The Termagaunts ability is out-of-phase and has a trigger, so it is a surge move. That means battleshocked Termagaunts don’t do it.

  • @marcobaldi9697
    @marcobaldi9697 4 дня назад

    I have a massive problem understanding the visibility faq, if I have an exocryne hidden behind a ruin with its cannon being the only part sticking out of the ruin profile, can enemy unit still draw line of sight to it or not?

    • @Internetbutthurt
      @Internetbutthurt 4 дня назад

      This is the problem with there being two Lines of Sight: rules based and true. If the barrel of the cannon sticks out of the ruin footprint then yes according to true LoS it can be shot. They simply need to go back to having to be able to draw a line to the targets base or hull.

    • @davidjones4772
      @davidjones4772 4 дня назад

      Yes they do have the line of sight as long as the line of sight to that point on the gun doesn’t go through a ruin.

    • @GrundleGobblin
      @GrundleGobblin 4 дня назад

      ​@davidjones4772 but LOS could never be drawn through a ruin so why make the update if that's the case?

    • @davidjones4772
      @davidjones4772 4 дня назад

      @@GrundleGobblin it’s if a gun or wing say is hanging over a ruin when you are hiding behind it. before if any part of the model was in or over the ruin you became visible.

    • @GrundleGobblin
      @GrundleGobblin 3 дня назад

      @davidjones4772 that was already a rule, within the ruin was determined by the base only not by the overhanging model unless its a Vehicle. This didn't change anything then

  • @captaincorundum9788
    @captaincorundum9788 4 дня назад

    Someone should talk about the hellblaster change

    • @captaincoolbreeze9429
      @captaincoolbreeze9429 4 дня назад

      I believe the clarification was that their fire on death only activates when they were attacked and for failed hazardous tests. They cannot fire on death if they were destroyed by emergency disembarkation, desperate escape, or other non-attack destruction.

  • @Deathgaming112
    @Deathgaming112 4 дня назад

    13:07 so if you dont want your big as guns to be seen hide them in terrain lmao

  • @Pers0n97
    @Pers0n97 4 дня назад +20

    Being able to make multiple surge moves per turn was always silly.

    • @y2j1490yahoo
      @y2j1490yahoo 4 дня назад +6

      No

    • @JakimAkim
      @JakimAkim 4 дня назад +4

      No.

    • @RickCorvus
      @RickCorvus 4 дня назад +3

      Somebody got owned by nids

    • @Hallow_the_fur
      @Hallow_the_fur 4 дня назад +1

      Khorne Berserkers would like a word...
      A very physical very chain toothy word

    • @DrakonPhD
      @DrakonPhD 4 дня назад

      Agreed, yes.

  • @deanthomas2561
    @deanthomas2561 4 дня назад

    Yay for the double nerf to Accursed Cultists?

  • @warlordcookie889
    @warlordcookie889 4 дня назад +3

    Oh fuck this, im just going collect at this point, shit changes every month at this point

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 дня назад +2

      I glad I'm not the only one to find this ridiculous to keep up with!

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 3 дня назад

      @@warlordcookie889 The last core rules update was in July which was 3 months ago.

  • @evogames0323
    @evogames0323 4 дня назад

    are carnifexes a surge move?

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +1

      Yes, but it also has "Each unit can only make one Blistering Assault move per phase." so this update doesn't change this ability anyways.
      To explain in more detail why they do class under this effect the ruling isn't for specifically things called "Surge", but for 'Surge' abilities, which is defined as "an ability that allows you to make an out-of-phase move, when a certain trigger occurs"

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 дня назад +1

      @@CaMooflagedTechnically the Carnifex could now lose the ability due to battleshock, that’s about all that changed.

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад

      @@davidgantenbein9362 that's true, forgot to add that. Thanks

  • @thelegendsmith3063
    @thelegendsmith3063 4 дня назад

    Can't use it while battleshocked is definently bs

    • @stevencarmody1755
      @stevencarmody1755 4 дня назад

      Would you still run head first into combat while shitting your pants? Kinda makes sense that they stopped it

    • @thelegendsmith3063
      @thelegendsmith3063 4 дня назад

      @stevencarmody1755 literally yes. Why cause otherwise you standing there to die without a fight. There also locking literally abilities on battle shock now. Where is the line ? Unit ability is advance and charge nope your battle shocked. Unit ability sustained hits. Nope your battle shocked no sustained hits. Full on azz pull

  • @stevencarmody1755
    @stevencarmody1755 4 дня назад

    I sais tenth was going to suck more than 9th and everyone disagreed at least in 9th everything was meant to be overpowered

  • @behemoth9543
    @behemoth9543 4 дня назад +9

    I will simply ignore any rules that aren´t put into the app. I have played competitive MTG and am no stranger to obscure rules interactions and people trying to game the system but the idea that I´m gonna carry around 8 different documents and erratas and designer´s notes and printed out reddit posts and twitter statements as the CORRECT way to play competitive is ludicrous. At that point I just stop giving a shit if its wrong or not and never go to a tournament.

    • @bigboybastard7162
      @bigboybastard7162 4 дня назад

      Makes sense. I took like a 3 month break from warhammer and suddenly there's a shit ton of stuff i gotta keep track of again

    • @danielmartens6369
      @danielmartens6369 4 дня назад +5

      All of these ARE on the app though, you just have to go digging for some of them

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 4 дня назад +1

      Good to know you'll be adhering to all these updates then. Make sure to update your app so you can see them.

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 4 дня назад

      Casual players such as yourself can play whatever rules you want to, as long as you both agree.

  • @tysonmann1780
    @tysonmann1780 4 дня назад +1

    For the algorithm

  • @QisforQadim
    @QisforQadim 4 дня назад

    These rules are bad beyond any FAQ can fix.

  • @dirkechoes1377
    @dirkechoes1377 4 дня назад +3

    So NOW can we say 10E sucks ass without getting jumped by GW simps?

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k 4 дня назад

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  • @sebastiancabral2474
    @sebastiancabral2474 4 дня назад

    megative

  • @adamcarey6093
    @adamcarey6093 4 дня назад +1

    Tired of updates. Just do an edition 10.5 and quit changing things

  • @snowascension8949
    @snowascension8949 4 дня назад +9

    Oh FFS! 🤬 You don’t see Chess or Football or any popular game changing their bloody rules every 5 damned minutes. I play once a month casually wanting it to be fun and just when I think I’m beginning to comprehend the rules… BAM! They’ve changed the rules again! 🤦‍♂️

    • @y2j1490yahoo
      @y2j1490yahoo 4 дня назад +10

      Nfl changes rules every off season.

    • @Gaddzilla
      @Gaddzilla 4 дня назад +9

      Chess perhaps not the best example. Over 1000 years to get the rules right, only one faction with 6 units, and first turn still has the advantage.

    • @mattkerr5536
      @mattkerr5536 4 дня назад +6

      This has to be bait, but-
      Such a false equivalency, do many popular games have constantly changing rules that update the ways things work all the time. Including tabletop, video and irl games.
      Either way, I'd personally prefer if they kept the rules dynamic so things can be fixed. It's never a static game. Just maybe make the rules mor accessible.

    • @bigboybastard7162
      @bigboybastard7162 4 дня назад

      ​@mattkerr5536 im fine with the rules changes, i just wish it didnt make the books i buy outdated nearly immediately

    • @thorscape3879
      @thorscape3879 4 дня назад +1

      You are so wrong. It's not GW's fault you don't play very often. The last update was 4 months ago, that's a perfectly acceptable amount of time.

  • @coldramen6423
    @coldramen6423 4 дня назад +8

    As I’ve said in previous comments, this is going to continue and probably get worse. They simply do not care anymore about creating a good game. The game is an engine for revenue generation, and one they’d like to be rid of.
    Old school tabletop gamers are no longer the target audience. GW wants 40K to be a media/video gaming franchise like Star Wars or Halo. They are simply going through the motions with tabletop, have been for awhile now, while they curate a new audience.
    It sounds doomer but it’s just facts. All of their nonsense decisions make sense when you view them from this angle. As soon as 40K becomes a household name, they’re going to drop us toxic fans like a sack of rocks. Be prepared.

    • @Atom-Phyr
      @Atom-Phyr 4 дня назад +3

      Bingo.
      Saw it coming before Guilliman was released.
      I'm just not their target audience anymore.
      Was fun while it lasted.

    • @coldramen6423
      @coldramen6423 4 дня назад

      @@Atom-Phyr One page rules! 7th edition! You don’t need a bunch of redcoats that don’t understand their own IP to enjoy Warhammer. It’s for everyone, remember? Even people they‘d rather pretend don’t exist 😉

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +2

      "but it’s just facts" but it's not facts, this is purely speculative. A company wanting to branch out to other aspects is a normal thing for companies to do, especially when Games Workshop has been in the Video Game sector since the 1990's. And the first official movie I can find is from 2010 so how old-school of a tt gamer are you referring to

    • @coldramen6423
      @coldramen6423 4 дня назад +2

      @@CaMooflaged if you can’t see what I’m talking about now, you’re not ever going to, and I respect Auspex too much to get into a pissing match in his comments section. Hope you’re enjoying the new releases man.

    • @CaMooflaged
      @CaMooflaged 4 дня назад +2

      @@coldramen6423 Hang on, Lets slow down a bit, you make an inflammatory statement saying that it's "just facts" and back out the first moment there's pushback saying "if you can’t see what I’m talking about now, you’re not ever going to"? This is not even a good, constructive conversation on the topic which you introduced into this.
      Instead, shall we go over anything in particular like how 2nd edition came out after the first Video Game came out showing the have always wanted to be in the Video Game sector when it came to Warhammer

  • @theanimated6845
    @theanimated6845 4 дня назад

    I think these updates are gonna bump up the tau, and I don't want to play a powerful army

    • @Atom-Phyr
      @Atom-Phyr 4 дня назад

      Play Guard.
      We get crapped on, on the regular. 😅

    • @theanimated6845
      @theanimated6845 4 дня назад

      @@Atom-Phyr I am Hella broke and can't afford a second army, also I'm bad so I'll lose anyway

  • @maxtracker2904
    @maxtracker2904 4 дня назад +5

    Wtf is the point in making people buy the rule book? Seriously? Anyone? 😂

    • @ngangkh
      @ngangkh 4 дня назад +2

      dunno; do ye really need to since it's free to download?

    • @ChimneyJuice
      @ChimneyJuice 4 дня назад +2

      I finally learned this by 6th edition. No more codexs or rule books.

    • @jacket2848
      @jacket2848 4 дня назад

      You were never forced to buy the book.

  • @Sparro100
    @Sparro100 4 дня назад +1

    I get you need todo it to earn money but I hate the fact I pay for youtube so I don't have to get ads and now they are in the videos 🙄

    • @AngryAcolyte
      @AngryAcolyte 4 дня назад

      Not our fault you pay for RUclips like a Chump