They adding premium top tier tank for SWE which already has amazing premium at that tier, meanwhile JPN and FR are lacking anything useful at 10.0-10.3... Milking the whales to farm FOTM Sweden is obvious $trategy.
Wish they’d focus on wwii and Cold War a little bit more. They’ve been way too focused on top tier lately. I get that most vehicles from those eras have already been added but still. Ranks 3 to 6 are like the core of war thunder.
I hope that Italy gets either the Centauro 2 or the Leopard 2A7HU for top tier and the 44M Tas for low tier And for Germany hopefully they finally introduce the Puma VJTF with reworked mechanics for AHEAD, MUSS and Spike
Honestly, getting another premium Centauro, and a 120mm, makes think this is going to be the update that actually gives us our true tech tree crown jewel.
They should ad the strv 122d, an unofficall variant of the 122b, that has a panic button. Said panic button forces the engine to a higher horsepower ratio, and makes the tank go up to 120kph, for a few seconds, until the tracks fail or smthn else.
For STRV 121B, besides a better round(maybe DM33), I think they might also give it a better armor package (500mm turret face, 430mm upper front hull against APFSDS), spall lining on the side, and 2nd generation Thermal for the gunner. The new trend is adding 11.0 - 11.3, like M1A1HC clickbait in US and Challenger 2 OES in Britain. Only those upgrades can bring things to the new standard. Also, Sweden already has a very good premium CV90-105 at BR 10.0. I doubt Gaijin will release a minor change premium Leopard 2 again to cannibalize the sells in the same tech tree.
All I want to know is if the Strv 121B Christian II will have Gen2 thermals or the same crappy ones as the german 123. I don't even care about the round (as much).
DM13 is good enough at 9.7 At 10.0 there is only T72B that can reliably tank it and DM23 does not improve the situation. In fact it feels almost as if DM13 deals more dmg than the DM23.
I do hope the Strv121 premium is the same as the one in the tech tree. If it were at a higher battlerating it wouldn’t be very useful considering there isn’t much of a 10.7 and 11.0 lineup for Sweden.
lame af right? honestly don't get wtf they waiting for.. Italy is for sure workable but the centauro 2 is much much needed.. if they also add that hungarian leo2a7 italy will defenetly make sense
@@K.Marx48 it wud be fantastic if it was a tree version or an event vehicle. Not a premium..Of course is a fantastic vehicle, the already present top br centauro is a god but another premium? bah...70€... i am a spender, play with premium and support the game so dont get me wrong eh, i just feel like italy needs more tech tree shit! especiallythe centauroII 6 Leo2a7hungary
@@toknode331 Italy definetly needs more tech tree shit. I also spend on the game but never bought packs at full price tbh, 70 euros for a pixel vehicle is bs, it would be ok if this was a simulator like dcs, otherwise it's just an inflated price.
I got so hyped, I saw Centauro RGO and got giddy then realized it's a pre-order pack.... When can I have my Centauro II Gaijin? When can we get the prototype Draco as an event vehicle?
Draco has to be standard tech tree, as Italy (and Israel) are the Nations with the worst top tier air defence vehicles. Draco with DART ammunition is the only vehicle that has the potential to change that (unless Gaijin adds a second subtree e.g. Turkey
@@eagelseye8089 I expect the Centuaro II and Draco to both be tech tree. Considering the Centuaro II has the HV gun that can throw out Dm53 and the Draco would have access to the DART ammunition.
yes, get it. its a tiger I (amazing if used correctly) with a tiny bit of extra armour (tracks) so angling wud be even better.. only downside is no smoke but i find dat a very small downside.
Yes. It may be just a tiger with some tracks in the front, but its not on the german tech tree so u wont have to deal with german teammates every match
It is really good, Tiger I is great tank when properly used, and you will be fighting geman teams most of the time - they have no idea what the weak spots on Tiger are :D
Italy is buying Leopard 2A7 and "adding their own gadgets" on top of them. So they are most likely going to put gen 1 thermals and remove 600HP from the engine
@@K.Marx48 so just because sweden gets a high tier premium france can't get one?? what kind of flawed reasoning is that lol. i hope france also gets a high tier premium, not that france has a line up at 10.3 :( but it would still be nice.
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 if they move the leclerc S1 and S2 to 11.3 (right now they are the ONLY 11.7 vehicles in rank 7) then we could get a premium export one at 11.3 (similarly to the american m1a1 clickbait)
Mentioning the history of the Strv 121B at 5:12, "it was too expensive and not really needed" is probably what summarizes the premium offer as well. But I will probably end up buying the Strv 121B, since I love those MBTs and don't want to keep spending backups on my Strv 121...
@@Stubzmeisteri would argue a tier 5 modification to add camo nets on tanks would make the game much more fun to play. But it would risk creating a situation of "some camo nets are better than others"
@@Paronak or add a a little column onto the mods that can give you sandbags, camo netting, etc.. no extra armor from them or anything and make it so you can't unlock that column until after you get all the other modifications
@@bambotronn well you know what I ment, I didn't necessarily ment that we need type 90, but it would be cool if Japan would get a decent top tier premium and top tier Spaa
We need more Israeli tanks. Israel refit most of the Merkava's since the Mk.3 with trophy systems on them but we only got the Mk.4M On top of that, since the recent update, they ruined the Israeli tree when it comes to the grind. They moved all the Tier 7's to Tier 8 and you can only grind top tier with largely 2 vehicles. Those two vehicles also have the worst stock grind. You go from 9.3 to 11.0 with vehicles stuck with HEATFS until tier 3 mods. Either case, I just wish we had more vehicles. Especially ones utilizing the APS system they widely use.
Balancing, most tech tree that implements Active Protection System only have one on their tech tree. It is still a new technology in consideration IRL in most countries anyway. Gaijin must implement new way to add minor tech tree ground force and unfortunately Israeli is near the end of their tech tree (similar to japan and in fact japan has already meet the end) with Sabra 1 to 3 (upgraded Magach 7c) are the only series that hasn’t been added for top tier. And even if they will add trophy system to every merkava, what preventing Gaijin to add it as a modification instead (like all USSR vehicles). I will suggest just move on, I already did with Japan tech tree.
@@leakahoshi5049 There are still a plentiful variations to the Merkava that could be added. Such like the Mk.3 LIC, Mk.3D, Mk.3D BAZ, Mk.3 Dor-Dalet, Mk. 4M 400, Mk.4 Barak. In addition to filling up the line up with some more APS systems. Trophy has been shown to work quite efficiently over the years on the Merkavas, especially with the recent conflict ongoing. Like mentioned as well, they added it on to much of their vehicles, even the IFVs. WT could add it as a modification, and that'd be fine. But I feel like not letting Israel be it's best potential leaves it as a underwhelming tree to go out of your way to play. Either case, I don't think they're at the end of the tree. There still exists more room for fluff. I'm just disappointed how neglected the tree is. Hell, they could still add some more lower tier tanks. They did have some Crusaders and a couple Shermans. On top of that, they did have Hueys. It just requires some time to sit down and re-assess. I've finished my tree just the other day but I can tell there's stuff lacking, especially with just little research.
Gaijin POV: What should we add next? Oh right, let's copy the Leopard 2a4 Premium from German TT, put new smoke launchers and make it a new premium for Sweden TT. Anything else? Yes, let's copy a TT Centauro with 120mm and make a premium from it. Great idea, let's milk money from these idiots again! Like bruh my man. It's just cringe at this point especially for Italy which still have nothing to offer at top tier from few updates.
brother another copy and paste for Sweden as Premium fantastic gaijin you are incredibly ingenious really there are so many vehicles to put a leopard as Premium
America was in the gutter long before they added Click Bait. More likely they target the most popular paying faction. Sweden has been the FAD ever since Strv 122 addition.
I was really considering getting the Spanish Centauro but held off thinking something new and better could be added as a prem, was hoping for an MBT but this new Centauro is good to consider.
In my opinion, the Centauro versions (except ROMOR) are the best the Italian tree has to offer. Especially the Centauro with 120mm is the only light tank in its BR that can keep up with the firepower of the MBTs and is ideal for flanking thanks to its speed, especially on large maps. At least Germany and Japan have nothing comparable on the BR, even if I like playing Type 10 and Leopard 2A7V, nothing is as much fun as driving around the enemy with the Centauro on maps like fields of poland and surprising them from behind
why? just because they are getting a 10.3 premium? usa already has that, germany als has that so i don't know why this would be a reason to despise sweden lmao
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 yes sweden has a strong 10.3 lineup especially with the new premium coming but thats still is a weird reason to despise sweden just becuase sweden is good at 10.3. other nations are really strong at other br's, should we despise those nations as well?
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201bro not gonna bitch about leopards at 10.3 when Russia has far better tanks and the best dart in war thunder on a t80u chassis at 10.0 that can go down to stomp on fucking 9.0 tanks
Strv 121B Christian II Pre-Order : store.gaijin.net/story.php?partner=TheEuropeanCanadian&partner_val=4wwn7fcr&skin_lang=en&title=Pre-order_Strv-121B-Christian-II-Pack
Centauro RGO Pre-Order : store.gaijin.net/story.php?partner=TheEuropeanCanadian&partner_val=4wwn7fcr&skin_lang=en&title=Pre-order_Centauro-RGO-Pack
They adding premium top tier tank for SWE which already has amazing premium at that tier, meanwhile JPN and FR are lacking anything useful at 10.0-10.3... Milking the whales to farm FOTM Sweden is obvious $trategy.
Here's hoping there's a miniscule chance of one of those happening in this update. 😔
You mean france straight up doesnt have a mbt at 10.0-10.3?
@@bokgillee1248 Nope. France goes from 9.7 straight to 11.7
I just hope we get the EMBT from 2017
2a7 hull with lecler turret
Wish they’d focus on wwii and Cold War a little bit more. They’ve been way too focused on top tier lately. I get that most vehicles from those eras have already been added but still. Ranks 3 to 6 are like the core of war thunder.
Italy is getting the Leopard 2A8 in real life soon, just as the British are getting the Challenger 3
8 billions for 132 ranks+ 140 bridge layers and mine cleaners...tankflation Is an unspoken problem of our generations
😂😂😂
Oh yeah, I've read about that
We have the challenger 3 prototype in game so it's more than certain we would get the production model
@@pierluigiadreani2159looking at Ukraine, the number of mine clearers might not actually be overkill xd
I hope that Italy gets either the Centauro 2 or the Leopard 2A7HU for top tier and the 44M Tas for low tier
And for Germany hopefully they finally introduce the Puma VJTF with reworked mechanics for AHEAD, MUSS and Spike
I hope italy gets the draco as new top tier aa
Spike puma it already been 2 year and it nowhere to be found 💀
I would hope to see the Hungarian air subtree
@@everettstrait311 Really though, Italy would be the only tree to get an F16, ADV, Av8b, Mig29, and Gripen. Thats a fucking stack.
Honestly, getting another premium Centauro, and a 120mm, makes think this is going to be the update that actually gives us our true tech tree crown jewel.
So Swedes get 3 Leo2s around BR 10.0? Like 5 light tanks, and BILL ATGMs?
Is there any reason to play Germany any more?
yes, germany is a better nation to play then sweden.
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 lmao above 9.0 no
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 define "better"?
better AA, heli, and CAS?
@@boat5138441 Sweden has better CAS and better AA. Worse Helicopter, but that's arguable.
They should ad the strv 122d, an unofficall variant of the 122b, that has a panic button. Said panic button forces the engine to a higher horsepower ratio, and makes the tank go up to 120kph, for a few seconds, until the tracks fail or smthn else.
No, that would completely RUIN top tier
@@shocknawyou mean like every Russian vehicle? Stfu
I prety sure i have seen this in a certain anime movie
Nah first add tank with rocket boosters
@@leonardo-m2524 lmao fr fr
rip swedens win rates
They are trying to capitalize on everyone grinding sweden
too right
For STRV 121B, besides a better round(maybe DM33), I think they might also give it a better armor package (500mm turret face, 430mm upper front hull against APFSDS), spall lining on the side, and 2nd generation Thermal for the gunner. The new trend is adding 11.0 - 11.3, like M1A1HC clickbait in US and Challenger 2 OES in Britain. Only those upgrades can bring things to the new standard. Also, Sweden already has a very good premium CV90-105 at BR 10.0. I doubt Gaijin will release a minor change premium Leopard 2 again to cannibalize the sells in the same tech tree.
yeah same, i believe it will get better thermals and armor. It did say the Christian II had updated electronics.
small note - as with all regal titles, Christian II is pronounced as "Christian the Second"
Christian double I
Christian two 😂
I feel like this update is going to be giving Nations that don't have a top MBT there top MBTs
What nation doesnt have top tier mbt? Im confused, unless you mean good top tier mbt, in that case theres a low chance Italy would get one
@decayer6710 Italy being the main one that comes to mind but I think others will get like upgraded version of mbts they have
Hey you whales out there Italy isn’t worth it don’t buy into them get the m1 clickbait or chally oes have a nice day
I was expecting France to get a top-tier premium since they took the AMX out of the store last sale
France? Get something? Are you mad?
Is... that a copy paste Leo 2 pbtz123?
(Think that's the full name)
Panzerbattalion 123
All I want to know is if the Strv 121B Christian II will have Gen2 thermals or the same crappy ones as the german 123. I don't even care about the round (as much).
DM13 is good enough at 9.7
At 10.0 there is only T72B that can reliably tank it and DM23 does not improve the situation. In fact it feels almost as if DM13 deals more dmg than the DM23.
I do hope the Strv121 premium is the same as the one in the tech tree. If it were at a higher battlerating it wouldn’t be very useful considering there isn’t much of a 10.7 and 11.0 lineup for Sweden.
That's why I was hoping for the Strv 121B to be a tech tree vehicle, even though it was only a single prototype.
find the centauro horrible to play. as you mentioned about mobility it feels horrible and is not smooth to control
Wr ask them to add centauro ll they add a premium vatiant instead
lame af right? honestly don't get wtf they waiting for.. Italy is for sure workable but the centauro 2 is much much needed.. if they also add that hungarian leo2a7 italy will defenetly make sense
@@toknode331 I think this oman variant is fantastic, cenaturo 2 woulde be better as a tech tree vehicle instead of premium imo
@@K.Marx48 it wud be fantastic if it was a tree version or an event vehicle. Not a premium..Of course is a fantastic vehicle, the already present top br centauro is a god but another premium? bah...70€... i am a spender, play with premium and support the game so dont get me wrong eh, i just feel like italy needs more tech tree shit! especiallythe centauroII 6 Leo2a7hungary
@@toknode331 Italy definetly needs more tech tree shit. I also spend on the game but never bought packs at full price tbh, 70 euros for a pixel vehicle is bs, it would be ok if this was a simulator like dcs, otherwise it's just an inflated price.
I got so hyped, I saw Centauro RGO and got giddy then realized it's a pre-order pack.... When can I have my Centauro II Gaijin? When can we get the prototype Draco as an event vehicle?
Draco has to be standard tech tree, as Italy (and Israel) are the Nations with the worst top tier air defence vehicles. Draco with DART ammunition is the only vehicle that has the potential to change that (unless Gaijin adds a second subtree e.g. Turkey
@@eagelseye8089 I expect the Centuaro II and Draco to both be tech tree. Considering the Centuaro II has the HV gun that can throw out Dm53 and the Draco would have access to the DART ammunition.
Is the Tigris any good? I’m thinking about buying it when it goes on sale.
you get extra 10mm on hall and the rest are the same as german one
yes, get it. its a tiger I (amazing if used correctly) with a tiny bit of extra armour (tracks) so angling wud be even better.. only downside is no smoke but i find dat a very small downside.
Yes. It may be just a tiger with some tracks in the front, but its not on the german tech tree so u wont have to deal with german teammates every match
It is really good, Tiger I is great tank when properly used, and you will be fighting geman teams most of the time - they have no idea what the weak spots on Tiger are :D
@@WickedOMGit’s 50/50 whether you get Germany on your team, and more recently for me its like 60-65% Germany
Very disappointed Italy is getting a premium instead of a new vehicle to grind
Italy is buying Leopard 2A7 and "adding their own gadgets" on top of them. So they are most likely going to put gen 1 thermals and remove 600HP from the engine
YES!!! ITALY!!
screw italy
L mao sweden really needed another top tier premium not like japan right? Centauro is fine
Yeah, and after the amx 30 super became a ge vehicle I expected France to get a high tier premium vehicle instead of Sweden
Fr
@@K.Marx48 so just because sweden gets a high tier premium france can't get one?? what kind of flawed reasoning is that lol. i hope france also gets a high tier premium, not that france has a line up at 10.3 :( but it would still be nice.
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 if they move the leclerc S1 and S2 to 11.3 (right now they are the ONLY 11.7 vehicles in rank 7) then we could get a premium export one at 11.3 (similarly to the american m1a1 clickbait)
Swedish STRV 121 is more expensive than the pzbtl 123 pack, which makes me think it's going to be a higher BR. STRV 121 with M/95?
Mentioning the history of the Strv 121B at 5:12, "it was too expensive and not really needed" is probably what summarizes the premium offer as well. But I will probably end up buying the Strv 121B, since I love those MBTs and don't want to keep spending backups on my Strv 121...
ad a centauro 2 porcodio
Man, they could not at least improve the model of Leopard 2 with HD texture could they ?
wow some more slightly different but in the end similiar copy paste tanks...
Can we get french stuff. I been grinding their tech tree and i would like some higher end light vehicles.
they already added a tiger I premium for the italians and now ANOTHER PREMIUM? cmon gaijin what the hell is this, this isn't fair
You missed the part of Italy being the worst nation in game, and also the most bullied in the game
I was thinking we must be getting dev blogs this week or very soon. I won't be buying these ones.
Of course its not stupidly overpowered or something as its not from the ussr
Adding a camo net on leo again lol.
Just let me put camo nets on my tanks I don't get why they don't do that it would print money for them
@@Stubzmeisteri would argue a tier 5 modification to add camo nets on tanks would make the game much more fun to play. But it would risk creating a situation of "some camo nets are better than others"
@@Paronakthats already a problem with premiums lmao
Type 16 compared to the Pzbtl?
@@valkyrie5972 the premium M41D in the chinese tree. Camo net on the turret basket and barrel
@@Paronak or add a a little column onto the mods that can give you sandbags, camo netting, etc.. no extra armor from them or anything and make it so you can't unlock that column until after you get all the other modifications
It’s nice to have Swedish and Italian premium…If only wallets warriors don’t screw too much
How the hell do I preorder the RGO on Playstation?
When is Strv 121B Christian II available?
Sad Japanese mains voices....no decent premium pack??(type 90 could be a decent premium)
Tomorrow devlog
I really want that japan 11.0 lineup but id hate for that Br in japan to be ruined by stupid premium players
that being said i will sell my 292 coupon if it gets me the type 90 premium
@@bambotronn well you know what I ment, I didn't necessarily ment that we need type 90, but it would be cool if Japan would get a decent top tier premium and top tier Spaa
@@minerkosk9786 yea, the vrcc is my most played ground vehicle, and if the type 16 actually had a decent shell i would get it
We need more Israeli tanks.
Israel refit most of the Merkava's since the Mk.3 with trophy systems on them but we only got the Mk.4M
On top of that, since the recent update, they ruined the Israeli tree when it comes to the grind. They moved all the Tier 7's to Tier 8 and you can only grind top tier with largely 2 vehicles. Those two vehicles also have the worst stock grind. You go from 9.3 to 11.0 with vehicles stuck with HEATFS until tier 3 mods. Either case, I just wish we had more vehicles. Especially ones utilizing the APS system they widely use.
Balancing, most tech tree that implements Active Protection System only have one on their tech tree. It is still a new technology in consideration IRL in most countries anyway. Gaijin must implement new way to add minor tech tree ground force and unfortunately Israeli is near the end of their tech tree (similar to japan and in fact japan has already meet the end) with Sabra 1 to 3 (upgraded Magach 7c) are the only series that hasn’t been added for top tier. And even if they will add trophy system to every merkava, what preventing Gaijin to add it as a modification instead (like all USSR vehicles). I will suggest just move on, I already did with Japan tech tree.
@@leakahoshi5049 There are still a plentiful variations to the Merkava that could be added. Such like the Mk.3 LIC, Mk.3D, Mk.3D BAZ, Mk.3 Dor-Dalet, Mk. 4M 400, Mk.4 Barak. In addition to filling up the line up with some more APS systems.
Trophy has been shown to work quite efficiently over the years on the Merkavas, especially with the recent conflict ongoing. Like mentioned as well, they added it on to much of their vehicles, even the IFVs. WT could add it as a modification, and that'd be fine. But I feel like not letting Israel be it's best potential leaves it as a underwhelming tree to go out of your way to play.
Either case, I don't think they're at the end of the tree. There still exists more room for fluff. I'm just disappointed how neglected the tree is. Hell, they could still add some more lower tier tanks. They did have some Crusaders and a couple Shermans. On top of that, they did have Hueys. It just requires some time to sit down and re-assess.
I've finished my tree just the other day but I can tell there's stuff lacking, especially with just little research.
I am funny enough already grinding Italy
It looks like the 121 have more armour on the turret side
STOP ADDING LEOS STOP ADDING LEOS STOP ADDING LEOS
Gaijin POV:
What should we add next? Oh right, let's copy the Leopard 2a4 Premium from German TT, put new smoke launchers and make it a new premium for Sweden TT.
Anything else?
Yes, let's copy a TT Centauro with 120mm and make a premium from it.
Great idea, let's milk money from these idiots again!
Like bruh my man. It's just cringe at this point especially for Italy which still have nothing to offer at top tier from few updates.
Hungary is also buying the KF-51 panther in 2025. But it will use the L-55A1 120mm
rank 7 premium for sweden? Rip Swedens win rate at top tier
So Sweden gets a 123
seeing the centauro II over a premium centauro 1 120 copy paste would have been better but you know, it is what it is
VRCC is a great buy as well. Wait for the sale though. I mean let’s be honest eventually I will also own this Centauro too…….
More copy paste type shit 🥱
Is this the long version of the 120 on the leo or m i tweaking
I hope the Centauro II will be the Techtree adition for italy
brother another copy and paste for Sweden as Premium fantastic gaijin you are incredibly ingenious really there are so many vehicles to put a leopard as Premium
All 2A4's should receive the DM33
So the abrams should get the m833
the strv 121 and strv 121B should be using Slpprj m95
My theory is: whenever a nation’s win rates get too high, Gaijin adds a top tier premium to artificially lower the win rates.
America was in the gutter long before they added Click Bait.
More likely they target the most popular paying faction. Sweden has been the FAD ever since Strv 122 addition.
I was really considering getting the Spanish Centauro but held off thinking something new and better could be added as a prem, was hoping for an MBT but this new Centauro is good to consider.
In my opinion, the Centauro versions (except ROMOR) are the best the Italian tree has to offer. Especially the Centauro with 120mm is the only light tank in its BR that can keep up with the firepower of the MBTs and is ideal for flanking thanks to its speed, especially on large maps.
At least Germany and Japan have nothing comparable on the BR, even if I like playing Type 10 and Leopard 2A7V, nothing is as much fun as driving around the enemy with the Centauro on maps like fields of poland and surprising them from behind
@@eagelseye8089 cv90120 is also great in this role imho
I will get centauro
ahh yes more copy paste lmao
Yeah, more 1 pump chumps....
The Swedish win rate will be dropped
Yay test drive 😂
Let it begin !!
Cool
bolz
Oh boy
Another reason to absolutely despise Sweden
why? just because they are getting a 10.3 premium? usa already has that, germany als has that so i don't know why this would be a reason to despise sweden lmao
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 3 leopards in 10.3?
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201 yes sweden has a strong 10.3 lineup especially with the new premium coming but thats still is a weird reason to despise sweden just becuase sweden is good at 10.3. other nations are really strong at other br's, should we despise those nations as well?
@@soumyadeepchoudhury3201bro not gonna bitch about leopards at 10.3 when Russia has far better tanks and the best dart in war thunder on a t80u chassis at 10.0 that can go down to stomp on fucking 9.0 tanks
@@lukavanwoerkom7283 I dont despise sweden I just satated a possible reason the OP despises Sweden
Sweden has more leopard 2s than Germany
Nvm I lied
Meh